Yes, 99...... 2

First topic message reminder :

It looks like we’re running up,against the 40 page allotment from the last thread......

And I’m still with Tulsi, unless there is a better suggestion......

Ha

When you get off hold give her my warmest regards.

Yes, 14’ did include the hold time.......

She did, almost, encourage me to call her back when I was more sober, and had something useful to say.  

It is true, if you are a real Princess, you can only be bothered by important calls.

She did say that she would let foot know that I had enquired after him.



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Be nice to her Dan. There's been some bad news on the protection of extinct animals front. Not the best time for her.

Lefty
Righty
I don’t know

How about this, let’s step behind our conceptions of left and right and say we have One hand.

There is one hand appearing as two, one as many.

I think that makes it clear what our mission is.

Clear up our confusion about our seeing and thinking.

And relax and then look again.

I don’t see left and right here Cy.

That’s tribalism.

99 wrote:Be nice to her Dan. There's been some bad news on the protection of extinct animals front. Not the best time for her.

Not to mention all the news from Kashmir.

99,

Not to fear.........

The Princess will protect the endangered species, just like she is protecting us.  


smelly,

We still have the Alpha and Omega to contend with.

Let us know when the Alpha and Omega are ok.



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What would Diane say about that last statement of yours Dan

Ok,

Well, I just got off the phone with Eric, and we only had good things to say about Diane.  

Diane is a big fan of Jacque’s.  

In fact, they are probably best buddies.  

And, yes, I think we all understand that there is a core story, the one that Rick told me........ twenty years ago ......

There are three books and three visitors.  

I’m claiming to be one of those three, along with the Princess.  

That’s all, sports fans........

But, see, the Princess doesn’t make that claim, except to me and the rest of her family.  

That is an important little fact about our situation.

Isn’t that right, Aaron?



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I will take you at your word.

Thank you.  

I mean, after all, I do claim to be her godfather.  

It is all in the family.  

So I guess that Foot is my son in law.  

When Maduro goes down, so will donny.

What do you make of them apples, Cy?  

So will Bolsanardo. We have his number, also.

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Oh? Dianne knows Vallee? Wow! That's someone I would really like to have a chat with. I wish he would give more interviews and comment on what's been going on lately in the UFO field. 

Maybe Dianne can share what she talked about with him?

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Dan, did you accidently post the following in this post? It's not mine but I'll leave it here. 

The overriding impression I took away from our roughly 90-minute conversation was that Mr. Epstein knew an astonishing number of rich, famous and powerful people, and had photos to prove it. He also claimed to know a great deal about these people, some of it potentially damaging or embarrassing, including details about their supposed sexual proclivities and recreational drug use.

donny could haven mentioned to Andy to watch for Jeffrey, but of course donny forgot to.  

That means that donny will rot in hell, with Jeffrey.  

So one of my first thoughts on hearing of Mr. Epstein’s suicide was that many prominent men and at least a few women must be breathing sighs of relief that whatever Mr. Epstein knew, he has taken it with him.

You are finished, donny.  Better get out of town as soon as you can.  

Cy does not realize that there is a difference between donny and smitty.  She has no conception of what is really going on.  But you had better be nice to her, or one of her militiamen will drill you between the eyes.  



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And now Cy has your number Dan...you gave it to her anyway...

I don't give my number away to strangers.

Here's one of the more recent lectures by Vallee. Safatti commented in the comment section on this vid:

Jack Sarfatti11 months ago (edited)

All of this is explained by back-from-the-future post-quantum auto-entanglement signaling from a future mental state to a past mental state of the remote viewer.

Ack,

So guess what, I am twice as old as you.  

I am looking for a fight.


99,

And Jack thinks he is a lot smarter than he looks.  


But, hey, that’s just my opinion, sports fans.



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99 wrote:Oh? Dianne knows Vallee? Wow! That's someone I would really like to have a chat with. I wish he would give more interviews and comment on what's been going on lately in the UFO field. 

Maybe Dianne can share what she talked about with him?

The overriding impression I took away from our roughly 90-minute conversation was that Mr. Epstein knew an astonishing number of rich, famous and powerful people, and had photos to prove it. He also claimed to know a great deal about these people, some of it potentially damaging or embarrassing, including details about their supposed sexual proclivities and recreational drug use.

donny could haven mentioned to Andy to watch for Jeffrey, but of course donny forgot to.  

That means that donny will rot in hell, with Jeffrey.  


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Read American Cosmic 99 if you haven’t she discuses Jacques a lot.

I have just finished all of Jacques books, then I accidentally picked up Cosmic and a lot was tied off

She is now part of the Invisible College.

I think she enjoyed the mystical nature of things.

We make up conspiracies to explain things.

Most are bullshit, but as Dan reminds me, they point to something real usually.

If we didn’t see the ashes and bodies who could have believed what the Germans did?

Yet some would claim it never happened, for them it didn’t, so they make another world to line in.

Trump has thrust his absurd world upon all of us.

“So the correct attitude toward U.F.O.s cannot be a simple Hofstadterian dismissiveness about the paranoia of the cranks.

...

But this dismissiveness can itself become an intellectual mistake, a way to sneer at speculation while ignoring an underlying reality that deserves attention or investigation. Sometimes that reality is a conspiracy in full, a secret effort to pursue a shared objective or conceal something important from the public. Sometimes it’s a kind of unconscious connivance, in which institutions and actors behave in seemingly concerted ways because of shared assumptions and self-interest. But in either case, an admirable desire to reject bad or wicked theories can lead to a blindness about something important that these theories are trying to explain.

...

Instead, you have to be able to reject outlandish theories and acknowledge a pattern of government lies and secrecy around a weird, persistent, unexplained feature of human experience — which we know about in part because the U.F.O. conspiracy theorists keep banging on about their subject. The wild theories are false; even so, the secrets and mysteries are real.“

There is a phenomena they are hiding.

An aspect of being human they don’t want to share.

I suspect the longer they try to hold it back, the more Epsteins will crack.

Sometimes creeps should be removed.

What we believe doesn’t have to be true, we make it true believing in it, so it might as well be.

What we are learning is you have to lead yourself through this.

That’s what I’m finding.

But somehow our hands are always holding onto other hands.

We make one hand.

Can you hear the sound of one hand clapping?

So we begin into this by letting our delusions go about what we believe.

If you can’t do that, and open your mind, you won’t.

Dan also speaks of 3 books...

The Blue Book - What the muppets know about the Phenomena.

The Red Book - What we know about the Phenomena.

The Yellow Book - What is known about us by the Phenomena.

Truth hidden as lies in the open?

You can even pick em up on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Yellow-Book-History-Aliens-Project-ebook/dp/B07BV4VPCX/ref=nodl_

Assume most of the core story is a lie, for what?

So these are mostly untrue myths, but what do they hide, what do they point to?

Perhaps Epstein’s Temple to an Unknown God is a clue.

Ack wrote:And now Cy has your number Dan...you gave it to her anyway...

I don't give my number away to strangers.

Everyone belongs to everyone.

Strangers are just estranged from themselves.

We can help them get to know themselves.

We can abide any stranger and I feel I must.

Me is We

Thanks for the link, smelly,

I’ve already downloaded it.


It’s not terribly unlikely that Jeffrey was an agent of opportunity for Mossad......

Several months passed. Then early this year Mr. Epstein called to ask if I’d be interested in writing his biography. He sounded almost plaintive. I sensed that what he really wanted was companionship. As his biographer, I’d have no choice but to spend hours listening to his saga. Already leery of any further ties to him, I was relieved I could say that I was already busy with another book.

99,

You had a post, #818.  It was a lengthy quote, badly formatted.  

Feel free to properly format it.  


Ack,

I should say that Cy was practically a neighbor of my sister’s.

Cy and I go back many years. I know Cy, better than I know you.



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Here's a part of that movie The Mothman Prophecies that I found very interesting. The movie is loosely based on John Keel's book. Here are subtitles of the part when the Richard Greer character visits the home of an expert and an experiencer of  the "phenomenon" that's in the book too.


The nocturnal butterfly.
In ancient cultures, the moth
represents a form of the psyche...
or the soul immortally trapped...
in the hellish death realms.
Mothman.
That's what the Ukranians called him.
Rough translation, of course.
There were 100 sightings in Chernobyl
the year the nuclear plant went down.
Galveston, 1969,
just before the hurricane.
They saw it.
But seeing isn't always believing.

Look, there's never been
a single shred of evidence...
to show that these things
exist materially.

Greer - So you're telling me
these things do not exist?

Oh, they exist. All kinds of things
exist around us that we never see.
Electricity, microwaves,
infrared waves.
You know, these things
have been around forever.
They show up in cave paintings.
They're a normal condition
of the planet.
They're just not part of our consensus
of what constitutes...physical reality.

Greer --What are they part of, then?

You're asking for an explanation...for something...that can't be explained rationally.
You know the buildup of energy
before something happens?
The way your hair stands up
before lightning strikes?

Greer -"Before something happens."
Do you mean they cause disasters?

Why would they need to?

Greer --All right, then...are they trying to warn me?

Their motivations...aren't human.

Greer - All right, then what do they want?

I have no idea.
What you really want is to know...is why you?

Greer --Yes.

You noticed them, and they noticed that you noticed them.
Most people aren't sensitive enough to see them...
without some kind of...trauma.
What happened to you, Mr. Klein?

Greer - Last week my friend
got a strange phone call...from an entity...a spirit, whatever.
It seemed to know everything.

Like God?
It made predictions that came true?

Greer - Yes. (the voice on the phone said that) His name was Indrid Cold.

It's perception, John.
They appear differently to everyone.

A voice, a light, a man, a monster.

If your friend thinks it's God he spoke
to, he's off by more than a few degrees.

Greer -- Then how do you explain
that it knows everything?

My comment: The mothman is just one manifestation of the same phenomenon. This was mentioned in the above conversation too.

It's fine

Thanks. Posted that because I can relate to the "phenomenon" and UFOs could be just another manifestation of it. Keel and Vallee believed this but in my view, it's more complicated than that and I think Vallee knows this too (but maybe not so much before)

Dan has some interesting insights on it too.

I was responding to Dan....sorry for the confusion 99.

Oh, ok. The board is acting up on me today. lol Have had some technical glitches.

dan wrote:Thanks for the link, smelly,

I’ve already downloaded it.


It’s not terribly unlikely that Jeffrey was an agent of opportunity for Mossad......

Several months passed. Then early this year Mr. Epstein called to ask if I’d be interested in writing his biography. He sounded almost plaintive. I sensed that what he really wanted was companionship. As his biographer, I’d have no choice but to spend hours listening to his saga. Already leery of any further ties to him, I was relieved I could say that I was already busy with another book.

I'm interested in how he made all of that money. I guess we will eventually find out but it there's a connection to Mossad, then this story might end up as classified. I hope not though.

So reading this yellow book, feels kinda silly, but I’m keeping an open and non-judgemental mind.

I smell liars maybe like http://jerrypippin.com/DanBurisch.jpg

This world of hoaxsters and misinformation I have to say is a big distraction.

What is this pointing to?

Hmm.

I suppose the pointing finger is always pointing at you.

It seems to me the closer you get to this, the more absurd things become.

A hall of mirrors.

Time and space are warped around something here.