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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:58 pm

    And, wait again, how does egolessnes differ from being born again.....?  

    It differs only superficially.  The form may appear very different, but not the underlying cause.

    Personal realization of truth.........?

    I’m arriving back in Baltimore.........
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:51 pm

    That there are no persons here, but simply appearances from the central source let’s say.

    Why do you care what happens in this projected soap opera hologram of ignorant asses?

    Stop avoiding the question.

    You know what I mean you slippery old man.
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    Post by dan Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:20 pm

    Well, for one thing, this is the only show in town, and I’m a co-Creator.  You care about your situation with Marissa.  I care about my situation with Creation...... it’s my baby...... my Source.  It’s why the illusion of me exists.

    You seem to care about your garden.  This is my garden.   Don’t step on my blue suede shoes, and I won’t step on your flowers.  

    Truth.........?  Same thing...... it’s the only truth we’ve got.  It is my flower bed.  It is love.  Your egos are my flowers.  I love my flowers.  That’s why I’m a personalist.  

    I don’t love animals. Ron and Aliyah love animals, the way I love persons, and other people love poetry, and might hate poets. Yes?



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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:31 pm

    The universe is your perception,
    as well as your conception.
    All that you know,
    through your consciousness did go.
    Do you know from the infinite possibilities,
    we construct our realities.
    But we must be consistent,
    or we would become nonexistent!

    Oh, by the way, this isn’t the whole story, think about the fact that this is true for everyone at the same time. Not solipsist, but polypsist.
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    Post by dan Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:38 pm

    Not bad, *sshole.........

    Yes, God is definitely a polypsist, which I guess is a synonym for personalist.


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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:43 pm

    A chip off the old block one could say.

    The universe just lobs them this way sometimes.

    Indeed this is the only game in town for us.

    Now I have had some mystical union. Wow.

    Know I know what this means completely.

    Did I suicide myself?

    I love me some living.

    I’m alive to enjoy it.

    You can’t kill your ego.

    We can set it free.

    Do I think it’s real, sure for an appearance, real enough.

    We all have eternity now.
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    Post by dan Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:49 pm

    Yes, you suicided yourself on the cross....... very clever...... very metaphor laden.


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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:49 pm

    So look, I give up.

    The universe wants to send little grey men to wake itself up, I never had an argument for or against.

    Like, what does it matter from here.

    It’s hard to give a fuck about any of the sleeping, when you know being is living now and that’s the best.

    They are kinda alive.

    What more do they want?

    My flowers.
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    Post by dan Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:55 pm

    Next to free will, ignorance is our most precious illusion, and here I’ve come..... to take it away.  It’s like taking candy from a baby.

    All good things must end. We must find ourselves so that we can lose ourselves, as if for the first time.
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    I will enjoy watching it if such a time comes this way.

    I am not detaching from life, but everything now will change.

    I can help people into the flow.

    I am learning how to to get out of our culture now and maybe that will help others later.

    I’ll get out of the way.
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    Post by dan Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:09 pm

    Wait....... don’t leave just yet.  Let me shoot you first.  I think I’ve still got an extra round left. That should ease you back into the flow.
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    Post by Ultraterrestrial Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:39 pm

    There are interesting patterns that turn up when one compiles the NDE accounts of individuals who have been to the “other side”. One of the most common ones is that time doesn’t feel like it exists. Another one is that the experience feels more real than the experience on this plane of existence. Another one is that the individuals become very religious afterwards even if they were an athiest or agnostic prior to their experience.

    The experience that people have using the actuators sounds similar, but there also seem to be some major differences, and I’m not entirely sure I know what all of them are. It’s not easy to make a full comparison when there’s so little publically available info on one of them. With my memory being as bad as it is, I should probably start taking notes more often.
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    Post by dan Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:03 am

    UT,

    Your first paragraph I would agree with.  The second...... I’m not so sure.

    I’m just a tad skeptical of any inanimate object.  The magic wand is merely an extension of the magician.  Without the magician, the wand is basically inert....... you can’t fly the craft without the critter.  At most, the artifact might only function as an ‘RFID’ device.  

    As the WoM/MoAPS proceeds apace, we’re gonna have a interesting time trying to find any real news......... or, how many millions are already awake to the portal/Eschaton connection?  How much deliberate preparation has already been undertaken on this side?  

    On the other side........? There is nothing on the other side that doesn’t point to the Telos.  There is nothing on this side either....... I’m only speaking to the conscious awareness.  

    Every scripture believing member of a prophetic tradition has always been so aware...... if we count them, too, the number of awake and aware is in the billions.  Sure, they are very paranoid about the whole portal phenomenon, but they are aware, and they have been ‘briefed’ on their eschatological portent.  


    Now what........ now that I’ve been to Fayetteville, and seen Chris’s ‘Sophie’....... actually, no, I did not see Sophie, but I did see Chris.  

    Chris is networked into a whole team of folks, including even Kevin.  In fact, I’ll wager that Kevin is his main agent, at this point, and Kevin does not want me to know that.  

    In fact, Kevin more or less admitted to me that he’s representing the Vatican with respect to Hollywood/Disclosure.  Hmmm........ more power, Kev.  

    I do truly wonder what Eric’s advice to Kev/Hollywood would be in this regard.  Is the K/H phenomenon just going with the flow, whereas my being on OMF is a gross violation of the Golden Rule of being laid back?  

    I’m pretty sure that Kevin agrees with Eric about Hollywood just being part of the flow...... hey, don’t cross against the traffic.  Kev will be sure to let me know when it’s my turn to cross the street.  

    I detect a little California conspiracy between Eric and Kevin.  Hey, it’s in the water out there....... flowing, flowing, flowing........

    Hey, no problemo, California....... do your thing....... and I’ll keep doing my chicken little thing.  

    So what was I saying..........?

    Yes, Eric’s right, it’s already a done deal.  We just have to decide how much further to the right do we want to move that nail?  I know..... fake news.  

    Ok, so we have the return of the bird tribes, and a few other critters, as well.  The prophetic traditions are the sleeper cells.  The pantheist traditions sleep with one eye open.  They’re like Eric...... wake me up again when the show is over.  

    Point of fact, the Earth is a sleeper cell, mostly bogged down with the necessities of materiality.   True, there are many mansions, but nothing that is snoring as loudly as us.  


    4:10……………

    I doubt that the Monad would have any problem accelerating disclosure, should that need arise. Otherwise, it’s WoM/MoAPS ...... steady as she goes.

    It’s very clear to me that the interpersonal prophetic tradition will be the only sensible way to continue into the Millennium. It’s the tradition that got us here, in the first place. I don’t think we’re going to switch horses, now.



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    UT, I’ve had mystical oneness union many times, an NDE is for the sheep I’m afraid.

    There is no almighty god, so heaven is a lie.

    Nirvana is a lie.

    There is something to samadhi, no one understands it.

    The Gita was a soma wet dream.

    I’m not Hollywood Dan, I’m the mystic in the woods.

    I met a bunch of Berkeley professors, they told me they don’t give a fuck anymore, the sheep are too stupid.

    People are morons. The most knowledgeable, the dumbest.



    Ramana Maharshi concluded a great story about Ten foolish traveling men with these words…

    “Such is the case with you. Truly there is no cause for you to be miserable and unhappy. You yourself impose limitations on your true nature of infinite being, and then weep that you are but a finite creature. Then you take up this or that spiritual practice to transcend the non-existent limitations.

    “Hence I say, know that you are really the infinite pure being, the Self. You are always that Self and nothing but that Self. Therefore, you can never be really ignorant of the Self. Your ignorance is merely an imaginary ignorance, like the ignorance of the ten fools about the lost tenth man.”

    I am realized because I know my Self here now. For the sheep, they are Self as I am, but they are simply asleep to that. Would you hate a sleeping dog or kick one?

    Not usually, but in an age of illusion, we have no choice sometimes but to kick the sleeping dogs.
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    Ten years earlier, during a reading on the Great Pyramid in Egypt, Cayce suggested that an ancient “Hall of Records” would be discovered at a time signifying the manifestation of this new level of consciousness.
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    Post by Ultraterrestrial Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:22 pm

    Garz,

    It seems as though you have much to learn, young grasshopper, and so does the scientific community in general for that matter. Hopefully the ease of access to personal portals will make things easier, if not obvious
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    Post by dan Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:05 am

    Gary,

    Ok, so we have a void inside a portal.  That should be fun.  


    UT,

    Grasshopper is a good name for Eric.  Maybe it will stick.


    Eric,

    Really, dude, hanging out with professors, and casting aspersions upon the rest of humanity.  Someone needs to school you, real bad.


    I’m trying to get the Royal family to reposition to Fayetteville.  Donald will never be able to drain the foggy bottom.  Time for a change of scenery.  Yes, everyone?  

    If the world is portalific, what matters territory.......?

    Well, Fayetteville is becoming downright cosmopolitan.  It’s a base in search of a mission, evidently, from recent news.  Well, hey, I’m guessing that the Princess might be able find work for idle hands.  No?  I’m thinking that Sophie and the Princess might get along real good.  Yes?  And I bet the troops could always use a few more drone lessons...... from the bible belt.  Sophie appears ready to take on the role of special Fatima.  Will she become a gun slinger, like her sister?  Not necessarily....... moving forward.  

    No harm in thinking outside the box, is there?  


    In a portalific world, there is a vast spectrum of transportation, now available.  We’re barely scratching the surface....... and we don’t need no damn professors to hold our hand.  It will be the other way around, of course.  Eric is absolutely so clueless about this, it’s liable to take your breath away.  

    Yes, for the person who just got a hammer for Christmas, all the rest of us look like we’re nails.  Well, Eric, I’ve got news...... from nowhere.....

    Meanwhile, Kevin’s got the hots for Hollywood.  They might like Sophie, but how will they put her together with a gun toting Princess, I’d like to know.  Chew on that for a while, Kev.  And it appears that he forgot to tell his producer about her.  The tighter the package gets, the more he tries to unwrap it.  

    Let no man put asunder....., Kev. My ancestors have been drawn and quartered at least twice, already. Do really think Harvey is up for it? Certainly your little Dimitri is not.


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    Place is full of fools.

    That’s all I told them...

    UT, there isn’t anything else to learn.

    This is the end to learning.

    It’s you sir, good luck meeting yourself.

    I don’t think anyone here could face themselves on their best day.

    Babbling about portals, really, grow up and kill yourselves already.

    Just shut the language door, open your awareness, and don’t look back.

    “One day I will find the right words, and they will be simple.”

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    When it breathes the flowers sway in the valley together, the trees are uprooted.

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    Post by hobbit Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:10 pm

    Grasshopper,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2yIkDVs0cA

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    Post by hobbit Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:01 pm

    Grasshopper,
    https://roundedglobe.com/books/86f326a9-2344-4d95-a3cc-199c82b3a0b6/Grounded:%20Indigenous%20Knowing%20in%20a%20Concrete%20Reality/

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    Post by dan Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:57 pm

    I have met the Katechon, and it is personal........

    = Aliyah + Eric

    I mentioned that she was sounding like Eric, so she asked me to invite Eric on the next GtM show, Monday.  

    Yes, there has been pushback from Fayetteville and the magazine story.  Would you like to meet the Princess, Eric?  

    Yes, I was not on my best behavior.  I am duly chastised.  

    I’ve just listened to Alan Watts, what every xian needs to know..... exactly what Eric has been telling us.  

    It’s wonderful, as far as it goes........ he simply ignores history.  He ignores the entire prophetic tradition.  

    He who ignores history, is destined to repeat it...... But that’s not quite right......

    History doesn’t repeat..... and we don’t have free will, anyway. I just feel compelled to shoot my mouth on OM. I’m just tending my little garden, Eric. Somehow, Eric takes serious offense. Well, if these musings ever reached a wider audience, almost everyone would take Eric’s side, and lecture me on Rumi, as does the Princess.




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    Post by dan Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:23 am

    Ok, I’ll admit it...... I went down to Fayetteville to steel a tank.  But, when I got there, I discovered I was too late..... Ft Bragg had already been stolen.  Shucks.  It looks like I’ll have to start.... countin’ bubbles on the wall, that don’t bother me at all.....


    Now that Eric has left the room, I’ll whisper a little secret to you....... he’s got faith...... so much of it, he don’t know what to do with it all.  He doesn’t care if we have 10 more Vegas’s, with a Honolulu on top.  He knows it’ll be just what the doctor ordered.  

    Me..... not so much...... I need to go down and kick the treads.  I’m just a worry wart.  Actually, I’m just trying to find out where we are.  I keep low balling it.  I just can’t seem to stay ahead of the game.  I have to keep playing catch up.......curiosity killed my cat.  

    Ok, it’s still a sausage factory, out there.  But the winds have shifted, just a bit.  They’re blowing down off the mountain.  It can be chilly, at first.  The shadows can get real long..... until they start breaking up.  Breaking up can be hard to do.  

    After the bubbles, what comes next?  Do I look like I might know something?  I guess that’s why I have to keep getting up in the morning.  Why does Eric get up?  I think Marissa kicks him out bed..... there are always more rows to hoe.  

    And here I am, still nursing my biggest worry....... how are we gonna keep ‘em down on the farm, once they seen Paris?  Eric looks at me like I’m crazy....... or something.  So does the Princess.  

    I think I’m beginning to understand the drones...... a little bit.  Yes, they are a placebo for creating sleeper cells.  It’s the cells we’re after.  To activate a cell, you have to entangle it from both sides.  The other side is a walk in the park.  It’s this side that’s problematic.  Problems...... hey, that’s where the fun is.  

    Sleeper cells abound...... whenever three of you come together.  And we know that the whole world is already a sleeper cell.  Getting from here to there..... it’s a question of counting bubbles.  The number of bubble poppers dwindles...... as us old folks move along, and the Erics take over....... be patient, please...... I’m just the scribe, remember.  


    12:30..........

    I just got off a convo with Steve Bassett...... he’s in London until 2/‘18.  

    I filled him in on some of the recent sagas.  He’s particularly interested in the DeLonge story.  I think I was able to explain that it was mostly just fake news, however it does indicate that the story is moving along.  He told me what they had raised...... was it more than a million?  I forget, but I wouldn’t doubt it.  

    There is supposed to be a public GtM on Monday, I believe.  The Princess’s topic will be Rumi.  My topic........ might get a little off topic......

    I told Steve my going down town story...... What I forgot to mention was that I was told that the secrets were supposed to have someone keep an eye out here.  They had fallen down on the job.  Ron didn’t think they’d make that mistake again..... will we....?  

    Let’s see how many bubbles Rumi has....... the one to watch out for is ...... I was just told by Bill...... Shams ...... hmmm..... I wonder if Sham is related to Shams.


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    Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2 Empty Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

    Post by dan Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:37 am

    See what I mean........ it’s operation pied-a-terre and that’s why he’s the foot.

    A convo with Bill...... he pointed to the two biggest novels in English..... Bleak House and Our Mutual Friend.  Cambridge classics is about the only place left that’s attempting to maintain scholarship, in his vaunted estimation.  Currently, he’s researching reptilians, cross culturally.  Barfield was the mentor of the Inklings, as we recall.  

    Apropos of what to do next, there are folks who tell me that Israel is, currently, the main impediment to world peace.  Is this true, or is Israel fake news, also?  

    I’m pretty sure that it’s fake news also, but how could I prove that.....?  

    I’m wondering if the Princess and I should go to Telaviv before we go to Srinagar. Yes?



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