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Gary, thanks again for posting the following article...

https://www.scientificexploration.org/docs/edgescience/edgescience-50.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0MyfmRnNiJxe12rufZ5rKVtAPXJt084dMJw6hijNNkvRrUi_w8ZUlCGmE#page=19

In my view, it's a mandatory read for anyone interested in the phenomena at Skinwalker Ranch who wants to dive deeper into it for information you won't find elsewhere.

Smelly El Chivo wrote:

Cyrellys wrote:

https://twitter.com/Courtne08241586/status/1537579190781763586

Cy just can’t get that QAnon streak out of her system.

No one is perfect.

That's not QAnon or Q.  I'm not the one with the obsession. 
Why are you obsessed O' Goat?


I've been tracking the bioweapons labs since 2012.  I reported to the public numerous times on them in 2014.  Others in the Liberty Community then became aware and started tracking them and the work they were doing.

I don't know about you, but you should find their work developing insect delivery vectors disturbing.  Go sit in your lawn chair and get bit by a mosquito or biting fly and then tell me how unconcerned you are about transmission of bioweapons and other lesser diseases via biting bugs, you are.

How's that stinky bug repellant spray?  Smelly Goat.

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Goat lives a charmed life.  He's never had an affliction or handicap that made life a real challenge.  He has never been attacked and had to defend a loved one, so he doesn't need guns.  He lives a life with no risk thus has no real values or exercise of real values.  He has no real moral challenges beyond idle conversation online.  Must be nice.

Source created a universe with real challenges, handicaps, and threats to separate the wheat from the chaff.  There is no reward without risk.  Life is a meritocracy.  Humans augment it with representation and democracy, then hope those they elect have more your interests in mind than their own.

I have need of the 2A.  The possession of weapons keeps the Grizzlies, the Cougars, and politicians at least a little more honest when dealing with you.

I keep my hunting and tracking skills honed every hunting season.  Bonus is the meat in the freezer.  Bought a smoker this year.  Smoked fish is like candy.

Weapons bans are planned by Americans to be ignored.  The proponents to be replaced.  FYI.  Everything DC & State Governments is being scrutinized.  None of the cretins, elected or nonelected are trusted.  Trust is earned and they all lost everyone's trust.

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As for Dan's eschaton and BPW and portals.  Has anyone ever gone back to 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014...and actually reread his writings?  Anyone beside me see the morph?  

That said, the Sun going out...the sun is not that old.  We are however going thru one of the bands in the 26,000 year cycle of chaotic space.  You can easily see it  in the cycles of seismic, volcanic, weather, and pole shifting.  We've been thru all this before.  Shrug.  But let's see what these portals bring?  

There's a lot of trust by Dan being portrayed about portals.  Trust based on?  Why would  you want to jump thru some portal not knowing anything about what's on the other side?  Are these portals two way?  If so what is likely to waltz thru to us if they open?  

Where is the scientific data on your particular portals?  Everything in the fabric of our reality can be observed, registered in some way on our tools.  Where is this data?  All there is here is talk.  I see much theorizing and cult mfg but not any real data on a professed real phenomenon.  But there is plenty of data on pole shift.  I can look that up.  

Dan where's the meat and potatoes?

Philosophies come and go.  Let's see the physical record that tells the story of the fabric within which we live.  Let's see the logic and physics your info is based on.

Is what I just said like telling 5412 and Labyrinth to get their ass into the open and start talking?  Good ol' COG building DUMBs for reasons other than what was agreed upon?

Yeah I know a little something about that, vitches, because birdies talk.

Why do I sound miffed?  Because there are cretins using my tax $ for chit without going thru me first, or representing me, or operating in my interest.  They don't deserve my tax $.  Am I still Paying taxes or have I found a way to avoid it?  Grin.  Screw me and I find a way to return the favor.  

I have one philosophy...be a best friend or a worst enemy.  That's like being armed to the teeth in and of itself if you think about it.

Dan this is not to say I'm 'not friendly to your information'.  What could be concrete I greet with practical interest.  But I have no need or use for some new fangle religion.  I don't do anything blindly.  That includes jumping thru portals. 

And the fastest way to make me a permanent enemy is dropping one or more nukes somewhere.  I don't give a rats ass what the reason for doing so is.  That's grounds for hunting you down and destroying you even if you hide 10 kilometers down or in some alternate universe.

Cy, I been through the and I’m sure you have.

I grew up a gutter rat.

I earned my life and my peace.

No spook or tyrant or chaos can rob me.

Yes, I am very very very lucky.

I feel the favor of the cosmos on me.

I’ve been tempered into a sharp hard flexible instrument.

We all have our trials and tribulations.

I just can’t be brainwashed or hypnotized or corrupted.

I see through the conspiracies.

And I’m only teasin.



My Philosophy is all Philosophy.

I am for the the whole corpus of man.

“I know I have the best of time and space, and was never measured and never will be measured.

I tramp a perpetual journey, (come listen all!)
signs are a rain-proof coat, good shoes, and a staff cut from the woods,

No friend of mine takes his ease in my chair,
I have no chair, no church, no philosophy,
I lead no man to a dinner-table, library, exchange,
But each man and each woman of you I lead upon a knoll,
My left hand hooking you round the waist,
My right hand pointing to landscapes of continents and the public road.

Not I, not any one else can travel that road for you,
You must travel it for yourself.

It is not far, it is within reach,
Perhaps you have been on it since you were born and did not know,
Perhaps it is everywhere on water and on land.

Shoulder your duds dear son, and I will mine, and let us hasten forth,
Wonderful cities and free nations we shall fetch as we go.

If you tire, give me both burdens, and rest the chuff of your hand on my hip,

And in due time you shall repay the same service to me,
For after we start we never lie by again.

This day before dawn I ascended a hill and look'd at the crowded heaven,

And I said to my spirit When we become the enfolders of those orbs, and the pleasure and knowledge of every thing in them, shall we be fill'd and satisfied then?

And my spirit said No, we but level that lift to pass and continue beyond.“

—Walt Whitman - Song of Myself, 46

Goat wrote:Quoted: "Shoulder your duds dear son, and I will mine, and let us hasten forth,
Wonderful cities and free nations we shall fetch as we go."

Now that sounds a little more like it.  Goat, I don't infringe on the right to carry any particular weapon, including full auto or elephant guns, or even the nukes.  I don't care what someone has.  I understand why some or even everyone is expected to possess.  It keeps society more civil when a victim can fight back...tyrants and would be murderers have to pause and think if that would-be victim is concealed carry first or if that citizenry won't lynch you and run your dick thru a kitchen blender, for attempting to put them in a re-education camp.

I expect from my leadership a reciprocation.  I don't infringe on your 2A.  You don't infringe on mine.  In so doing, we shall have "wonderful cities and free nations".  I'll do my part to participate responsibly and equitably.  

Problem with the recent developments is it has become plain to see, those who've gravitated to "leadership" and "power" don't have any of that in mind.  They see my people as a threat to be destroyed or conquered.  They run their mouths to that effect and create legislation to that effect.  That makes them enemy # one because they are incapable of "live and let live" while we are.  We demonstrate "live and let live" by not running around behaving like Antifa and BLM (Black Lives Matter AND Bureau of Land "kyping" Managment).

The only good place for a real jackass is behind bars.  The question being decided right now is if a thorough house cleaning in the halls of governance is required to put them there.

Walt and I have set our weapons down and picked up our walking sticks.

We travel the open road.

We all have to make our own way indeed.

Nice to spend a bit of time walking with you.

We don’t like nukes either!

🤮

And I don’t think too much of footstool, the princess and Dan’s collaboration and prognostications.

The future is always in motion it is.

They disappoint me.

But not really.

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Cyrellys,

Once upon a time, it was alleged that God told Jacob to sacrifice his son.  

Jacob did not protest, but the son was spared.  

I understand that you do not believe in the BPWH nor in the Endtimes.  

I did not, either, until 1975, when I was 32.  

I had been a true believing materialist.  

I still do not believe in the BPWH nor in the Endtimes.  

However, I take those worldviews seriously, because they are the only way that we can make sense of the world.  

There is no belief system that does not make a considerable degree of sense.  

Why cannot I not settle on one of the existing systems…… and yours would be included?  

What I find lacking in all the other systems is Anthropocentrism.  

Anthropocentrism, however has numerous derogatory connotations.

The term of choice is personalism, if you don’t mind.  

But what does personalism have to do with the Big Frog?

It may be that deployment of the Big Frog would be necessary to initiate the opening of the portals.

I certainly hope not, but……….

I am certainly not advocating for any particular means of initiation……. only for the best possible means.  

We don’t know what that means might be.  

I am merely acknowledging that you and I cannot arbitrarily tell God what and what not to do.  

Many folks believe that it will require Armageddon to open the portals.  

I hope not.  

However, if we need shock and awe, the strategic deployment of a single device would be vastly preferable to Armageddon, wherein all the thousands of devices might be deployed.  

We can agree that it would be vastly preferable to just have the Sun blink, for instance.  

However, we don’t know if that would be feasible, just by itself.  

It is quite possible that the combination of a variety of actuators would be necessary to initiate the Endtime chain of events.

By ignoring what may be necessary, we are simply removing ourselves from any and all deliberations.  

The reason I put forward the obvious possibilities is simply to encourage more of us to come up with better ideas.  

I, personally, have never been happy with the Armageddon option.  

I’m confident that we can do better than that!  

And there is a major caveat……..

The orchestration of the Endtimes has already been written in the stars .  

In some strong sense, we are merely going through the motions.  

We are Monday morning quarterbacking….. but before the fact.  

Sub specie aeternitatis, every last one of us has a finger in this pie 🥧.  

chick is merely giving some voice to this fact.  
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And, as to the existence of portals, Cyrellys, I have seen nary a one.

However, I am unable to make sense of the world without positing such.  

In my earlier days I could not make sense of the world without posting neutrinos.  

In the intervening years, I have come to realize that portals make more sense than neutrinos…….. and especially so in these putative Endtimes.



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dan wrote:Cyrellys,

Once upon a time, it was alleged that God told Jacob to sacrifice his son.  

Jacob did not protest, but the son was spared.  

I understand that you do not believe in the BPWH nor in the Endtimes.  

I did not, either, until 1975, when I was 32.  

I had been a true believing materialist.  

I still do not believe in the BPWH nor in the Endtimes.  

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And, as to the existence of portals, Cyrellys, I have seen nary a one.

However, I am unable to make sense of the world without positing such.  

In my earlier days I could not make sense of the world without posting neutrinos.  

In the intervening years, I have come to realize that portals make more sense than neutrinos…….. and especially so in these putative Endtimes.  



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Dan what will you do if none of your posits turn out to happen?  Can you accept and be happy with this if it turns out to be the reality instead?:

Cy,

I have had some difficulty imagining exactly how the BPWH could be disproven.

In the meantime, I’m not holding my breath.

dan wrote:Cy,

I have had some difficulty imagining exactly how the BPWH could be disproven.  

In the meantime, I’m not holding my breath.  

Fair enough Dan but you have to forgive us for being unable to wrap our minds around yours as most of us have been exposed to some other reality.

I have not been privy to anything other than your cloaking riddles which make little to no sense...endless monologues on archaic philosophy disjointed by a lack of tangible connective information or physical experience.  This is why I asked about the physical evidence.  

I mentioned, as example, I can go see for myself the evidence of pole shift.  My ancestors tracked the cyclic cataclysm timing with stone calendars.  shrug.  But the cyclic cataclysm is not your eschaton or a eschaton.  

The geologic and biological systems of this planet are self adjusting.  And any issues with the sun given its age, is suspicious for tampering.  I'd go looking for a culprit.

The experience of Source I have does not match yours 98% of the time.  

My ability to live and capitalize my actions, words, and thinking with Source's Synchronicity is visible in my online history.  It's not a theory or a religion.  I received the early training of the Banais Righi from my grandmother before she died and it has never failed me.  I have developed a distinct respect for Source because of it, that is not a religious response, but more like the working relationship between an employer and employee.  Source did not want me complicating that relationship with any religion.  I have honored that.  It's given me something of a unique uncontaminated experience with it which the various religions cannot claim.  

Source has been in my experience more concerned with humanity attempting to 'suicide' itself.  Humanity creating a multi-situational bottleneck thru which human civilization is potentially unable to squeeze.  Those responsible are on Source's shit-list for that.  Shrug?

I see it.  But I'm also in a fallback position not on the front line in a design I barely perceive and understand for its complexity.   I don't like the proverbial "sit here and wait for orders just in case".  No secret that.  But I'm a member of Natures Crowd which means I'm a team player in this schema however it turns out.  

All I can tell you is how humanity treats each other right now in this time matters.  And I see a miscreant lead civilization doing a nose dive that should be preventable.  

Something about you and your BPWH is something of value to Source.  Others here and their thoughts in conjunction for and against are also valued.  As are many other things OMF has and continues to house.  But these predictions of eschaton, termination in the manner you've laid out does not ring true or match my perceptions and knowledge of what's happening.  So those portions are not what anchors Source's support. 

So do we look at what is not that narrative portion within Dan's work?

I'm curious what response this evokes from Foot and Company who seem most vested in Dan's narrative of destruction.

What Dan & Co choose to continue to do conversationally is free choice.  I will not interfere beyond what I've just said.

dan wrote:

Once upon a time, it was alleged that God told Jacob to sacrifice his son.  

Jacob did not protest, but the son was spared.  

Dan it was Abraham who was told to sacrifice his son Isaac.

In back reading the thread I've noticed the 144,000 number keeps popping up.

The 144,000 Portals certainly appear as someone has dipped into scripture and pulled that number out of the hat.

Is this number to be taken as a literal number or more in line with a two-fold or three-fold way of signifying completion (Fullness)?

Those passing through the portals either literal or symbolic would represent the first fruits.

"After these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel."(Revelation 7:1-4)

"These have been redeemed from mankind as firstfruits for God and the Lamb,........(Part of Rev. 14:4)

Cy,

There are two spiritual traditions in the world…… the prophetic and the non-prophetic.  

I take one look at history, and I have to lend considerable credence to the prophetic.  

Nature is cyclical, history is not.  

I maintain that history is choreographed, with the best possible choreography.  

You suggest that it is a tale told by an idiot…… full of sound and fury.  

I can’t prove you wrong, but I have ample reason to believe that you are.  

We have ample reason to be hopeful.  

In general, you believe that evil operates in this world independent of God.  

I suggest otherwise.  

What you perceive as evil is merely the shadow side of God.  

But understand that I do not believe in God, not in any traditional sense.  

I believe that everyone of us carries a divine spark.  

One day these sparks will come into alignment, along with the stars .  

That will be the Eschaton…… that will be the End of History.  

I see absolutely no destruction.  

I see a melting away of the illusion of time and space.  

I see a melting away of our separation from each other and from God.  

We are all destined to return to be One with the Source.  

Portals are merely a possible means to that End.

Understand that the hologram of our Creation is encoded in every one of our hearts .

Not one iota of the best possible Creation can ever be lost.  


Scarz,

I thank you for your Biblical correction.  

Much of the tension in the Bible is represented in the dissonance between five and six.  

This same dissonance sees a resolution in the two powers of six and the three powers of five, as represented by 144,000.  

I lend considerable credence to the significance our current number……. 10^10.

In regards to her eschatological pronouncement, I take it to have been a serious suggestion, meant to capture our attention.  

I take it to have been an opening bid toward the best possible Eschaton.  

We take it, and we run with it……. knowing that the race has already been won, by all of us.  
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Yes, we may rest assured that God is a dramatist ….. and not averse to the use of sound and light…….. son et lumiere, as the French would say.

If she wishes to throw in the Bull Frog , we needn’t stand in her way…….

He’s got the little bitty baby in his hands.
He’s got you and me sister in his hands.
He’s got the whole world in his hands.

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You are so wrong that the end times and the BPW are the only things that make sense.

Smelly hangs his head low.

May the scales fall from your eyes.

May smelly gas erupt from your arse.

“To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
A Robin Red breast in a Cage
Puts all Heaven in a Rage”

Of course you have no idea what Blake means.

This is why you follow others.

This is why you yet have not discovered your original face.

The open road is what makes life beautiful.

Fuk the end times.

No other concept turns my stomach like that one.

🤮

And sometimes life sucks and sometimes it’s wonderful.

You think you know god?

You think you are god?

Not even close bucko.

If you had any clue you wouldn’t be talking about portals and Armageddon.

If you had any wisdom, you would realize that each must face themselves.

But the blind cannot see.

Yes…… to see the world in a grain of sand!

Chivo took the words right out of my mouth.  

You’d better go to the head of the class!

But how can we see the World in a grain of sand without benefit of the Metanarrative?

Poor poor old man.

Wasting the precious moments of his life waiting for the end to come.

Lose Ron’s number.

Never think of the princess again.

Hang up the phone.

Be here with me.

This is the voice of god crying out to you.

Through the bleats of a simple smelly

The world can not see me.

But they will smell me.

Write the metanarrative down on a piece of paper, burn it.

Bury the ashes and plant some flowers there.

Water them with your tears of joy.

“Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass the world is too full to talk about.”

The Eschaton is merely the frosting on the cake.  

It is meant only as the Coda to the Metanarrative.  

There is completion.  

Who is to deny resolution?

There is eternity in every hour.  

Quality always reins over quantity.

Poor chivo, he is unable to hold infinity in the palm of his hand .

I am beyond the Eschaton.

Each has to resolve it for themselves.

Otherwise it would mean nothing.

I am on the other side of knowing.

I’m tellin you all that is distraction.

The world is too full to talk about.

That’s only true when you completely open yourself up to this experience.

Something wonderful is happening.

Just unbelievably beautiful and real.

I can barely write these silly words.

In this state, you are approaching god.

Come come, there is a place/no place prepared here for you.

My words are better than your words old man.

Yes, you hit the nail on the head.  

Poor Chivo, though, he is demanding a closet drama.  

No, Chivo……..

A place has been set for everyone one of her children…… at the Wedding Feast!  

Ye of little faith…….
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Each has to resolve it for themselves.

Poor, Chivo,

The is exactly where he runs off the rails.

The very notion that we are soulmates in just too much for his very stubborn ego.

My portal is the one where JC is at.

I don’t need faith!

I have life abundantly.

Each self is an illusion.

There is nothing to do but drop the mask.

You just can’t accept it.

I get it.

The ghost just can’t stop guarding its corpse.

No Armageddon would suffice beyond the implosion and ignition of a sun in each of us.

Yuh must know Dan how silly you appear to me waiting for something that is already happening.

You asked for a better way and I am living proof of such.

Shhhh

Ignite!

Yes, and he holds everyone of us in his hands.

My words are better than your words.

Mine come from the source.

Mic drop

We basically agree Dan, just sparks of eternity.

The difference is, I’m living it.

You are waiting for it.

That means I dropped my mask, you keep yours on.

Why waste time being maskless before the sun?

The sun will only blink for muppets.

Not for those in the center of the sun

You wont be able to experience this again as far as we can know.

No one can talk another into dropping their mask.

They have to do it.

I’m not telling you to drop it really, just that nothin can compare to life without it, and I won’t hide it.

I’m just havin fun dancin around you.

This annoys muppets.

99, when you even stop following Jesus, you will finally receive what he did.