Sun goes out?

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Persons duly designated war criminals by a proper authority should be exiled off of the planet. I do believe Robert Bigelow has under development appropriate containers to hold them. They should be given full view of the Earth to contemplate the reasons for their isolation. I suspect Elon Musk would assist in this effort.

Gary,

I understand that you are suggesting only a very mild form of punishment; however, punishment, by itself, will likely be very ineffective without appealing to some higher Truth.  

Fear and suffering are ways to modify behavior.  

By resorting to such methods, we are treating persons as animals….. stimulus/response machines.  

Persons do have cognitive powers……. we should avail ourselves of them, where possible.  

Wartime, however, is no time for engaging in philosophical discourse.  

In as much as eschatological events are liable to be traumatic, there will be wartime conditions……. no time for niceties.  

Such discussion will be only of academic/historical interest, at this point.  

The main thing to get across is that all of us have unlimited potential.  

We have the potential to make this the best possible Eschaton.  

In fact, the best possible Eschaton has already been choreographed.  

Does that mean that we are just meant to be the audience?  

No, but we’ll be doing what we know how to do…… best.  

If this includes having a fireside tasseography group, then so be it.  

We’ll be exploring the unity of cosmic consciousness.  

Where there is a unity, there must also be a Source and a Telos…… the Alpha and the Omega.  

We’ll be experiencing the Telos/Omega of consciousness.

No biggie……. it’s all just personal.  

And Vladdie…….?  

He’s just our best possible orthodox mad bomber.

He got our attention, alright!  
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It seems that Vladdie might have figured out our Filioque……. …… all by his little self!  

What did he know, and when did he know her?  

It’s like I said to the Princess …….. our only problem is that we have no problems.  

She looked at me, almost in disgust……. you want to see problems….. I’ll show you problems!!  

…… personal problems……
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Since Europe is our buffer zone, I guess Vladdie ought to have the Donbas as his buffer zone.  

Hey, it’s fair and square!

Our only problem, now, is poor Xi.

But isn’t Taiwan already his buffer zone.

Now someone just needs to explain why we need these three…… zones.  

We’d better get our tails over to the Donbas.  



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The moon offers a special vantage point.

“Notably missing as a contributor to the report is America’s principal foreign spy agency, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA),” wrote Tim McMillan in a detailed analysis of the ODNI report published by The Debrief.

https://thedebrief.org/analysis-newly-released-version-of-once-classified-report-presents-new-clues-about-the-u-s-governments-uap-investigations/

1000gmt……

Actually, we have two buffers with Vladdie……. Europe and China/Xi.

So, Vladdie and Jinnie can be our two Witnesses…… to the Truth.  

This is already accomplished through three, but she’s just playing a little hard to get.

So, Gary, this explains why two is missing from the report.  

It’s still above top secret……. actually it’s one, two and three.  

Yes, the three Visitors……. the core story of the Aviary.

That’s always been the only real secret.  

These explain the three ages of both Joachim and Owen.  

This is also where the Filioque comes in.  

I believe that Vladdie and Jinnie already understand this.

All we have to do is get to the Donbas, to straighten it all out.  

Isn’t that right, Princess?  

That’s why I’m calling a meeting of the Tasseography group.

Yes…….?

It’s all about understanding the Filioque.  

It’s just that simple.  

Then we all understand that the Eschaton is just something personal.  

Tell chick that he is wrong …….

Is it not accomplished?  

John 19 30……. 4M/K/SoT/X2.  

And, for Jinnie’s sake, we can add Li Hong to the list, giving us an eight-fold way.  

And it’s all because of the Anthropic Principle.


1430…….

Hopefully, Abramovich understands this much…… holding a place at the table.  


1600……..

Flash news………

The Princess is claiming that the Trinity is fake news .

Hmmm …….. we’ll see about that!



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Yeah probably

Same old spy games ...

A REUTERS SPECIAL REPORT
Putin targets enemies at home as his missiles strike Ukraine

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-russia-repression/

1600gmt…….

three has told me that there is no God.

I asked her if she believed she was the Queen of the Hive.

She said, “No, I know that I am.”

It seems that we may be having a problem with semantics.  

She states that ~10^5 portals will open, and then the Sun will go out.

I certainly believe that is possible.  

With immaterialism, all things are possible.

We simply have to be able to discern between the possible and the best possible.  

We understand that the world is not an object……. it is an inter-subjective state of consciousness.  

Space and time are thereby (consensual) illusions.  


1630…….

At this point, we might ask several questions……

How did this illusion come about?

Well, ok, most of us have to speculate…….

Almost all moderns believe in the Big Bang.

An immaterialist does not.

If there was not a Big Bang, how are we going to save the appearances of such a primordial event?  

three and I agree that there is a ‘Grand Deception’.
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Those in the prophetic tradition believe that there will be a grand deception just prior to the Endtimes.  

Some believe that this Deception will occur mainly in the context of the advent of the Antichrist, for instance.  

Those in the ‘Eastern’ tradition believe that all of history is just Maya or Lila……

Lila (pronounced Leela) is the play of creation. To awakened consciousness, the entire universe. With all its joys and sorrows, pleasures and pains, appears as a divine game, sport, or drama. It is a play in which the one Consciousness performs all the roles.

chick couldn’t have said it better, hisself!


1800…….  

I suggest that the Grand Deception is simply scientific materialism.  

The scientists are not deceivers……. they have merely been taken in by the very elaborate Deception that we call Nature.  

They take Nature to be an absolutely objective reality.  

The observer problem in quantum mechanics, for instance, is something that they have to struggle with mightily.  

The mind-body problem and the Anthropic Principle are major obstacles to their hallowed objectivity.  


2050………

The Great Deception is specified in 2 Thessalonians 2 as the Strong Delusion leading to the Great Apostasy.  

It is usually stated that Satan is responsible for this Strong Delusion.  

This sounds downright Manichaean to my ears…….

….  Manichaeism, which is an old religion that breaks everything down into good or evil. It also means “duality,” so if your thinking is Manichean, you see things in black and white.

Most of us are Manichaen at least some of the time.  

The notion of Armageddon comes right out of this perspective of the final battle between Good and Evil.

The coherence theory of truth (CohTT) gives no truck to dualism.



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Dan and his friends are weird

The portal is a lie

10 ^ 5 portals ?

Really?

That’s the best these disclosure people could come up with?

The sun could go out any minute, what does it matter?

The metanarative goes on and on and on and so forth

23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

1320z……..

duder,

The portal is a lie……….?

It could be.  I’ve never seen one.

In fact, I’ve been told that we can’t see them.  

They are not like doors or windows.

A portal is, rather, a nexus of entanglement…… whatever that is.  

Everything is a nexus of entanglement.  

This is just the definition of Relationalism……. nothing stands alone.

See Pratītyasamutpāda…… co-dependent arising…… e.g. you can’t have a Creator without a Creation.  

A portal also has two sides, like an airlock, but without the air and without the lock.  

We control one side, and ‘they’ control the other side.  

The possibility of the Sun going out may be understood under the rubric of Occasionalism…… which is just another form of Pratītyasamutpāda.  

In other words, it turns out that the towel-heads were smarter than the eggheads, when it comes to things that really matter.  

We, sapients, are far more entangled with each other and with the world than are the sentient creatures.  

Yes, our technology has a lot to do with this hyper-entanglement.

When we go out, the world goes out……. and the Sun along with it.  

It’s just that simple.

Does this mean that the cheetahs will die-off?

No, they will just go back to Cheetah land.  You may ask 2.5 for the directions.  

The Metanarrative will go on and on……?

Nothing can go on and on.  

Can’t God/Source go on and on….?

Not really, because God creates time, along with everything else.  

There can be nothing quantitatively infinite……. only qualitatively transcendental……. like persons.

Yes, you really don’t want to mess with persons.  

This is something the Putin and Trump failed to learn.  

They will learn this lesson sometime before the cows come home and the Sun goes out.  

Their ignorance, however, has been a tool, in the hands of God.  

Neither one of them has a clue about the Filioque.  

The Filioque is also just another manifestation of Pratītyasamutpāda.  

Like they used to say……. thunder perfect mind…….. chick .  

…… just sayin…..

Hey, sports fans, it’s pretty easy to connect the dots, once you realize there is only one dot……. agape!  

So why should we prefer the Trinity over monotheism?  

Well, it helps to understand that, as we’re following the light , it manifests in three colors .  

It just expedites our navigation.  


1940……..

Continuing to read Heiser’s book on Dugin (2014, p 58)…….

Dugin sees the primary conflict today as being between modernism/individualism and traditionalism.  

Dugin credits Popper’s ‘Open Society and its Enemies’ (1945) as having alerted him to this polarization……. its enemies being the traditionalists like Dugin and other neo-nationalists.  

Dugin is promoting a common cause among nationalists, particularly of the Eurasian variety.  

I strongly suspect that Dugin would include Jason Jorjani as a fellow traditionalist, focusing on the former Persian Empire.

Personalism is a far cry from individualism, keeping in mind that, ultimately, there is only the cosmic Self, of which we are all reflections.  

Individualism truly comes into its own under the aegis of postmodernism…… wherein any semblance of Truth or Metanarrative is finally dissolved.  

How far are the traditionalists from the various forms of socialist collectives?  

This is where the differences between communalism and communism come to the fore.  

Interpersonalism is a long way from collectivism.  

Interpersonalism includes, essentially, a transcendental/transpersonal dimension.  

Jojani refers frequently to an Indo-European world order.  

I gather, however, that Jorjani has no clue about the Small World.

There is an emphasis on genetics that comes from a strongly Darwinian slant.

He has no Metanarrative….. for sure!  

His horizon is far enough to see that we will need something to guide us through the technological Singularity.  

Eugenics will play a part in this transition.  

The idea of a metaphysical Singularity is not amongst Jorjani’s imaginings.  
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Jorjani’s only use of the term ‘metaphysical’ in ‘World State of Emergency’ is several times in connection with the UN/UDHR.  

The UDHR makes no sense without its appeal to a metaphysical dimension, which he does not otherwise specify.

It is significant to note that, unlike the Declaration of Independence, the UDHR makes no reference to our creaturely status.  We are simply born with our rights.  They are not otherwise conferred upon us.  

Nonetheless, according to Jorjani…….

That all human beings always already have “equal” rights despite any factual or material differences……. indicates that a metaphysical human being is the subject of the rights elaborated in the UDHR.

Jorjani goes on……..

Compare this to the fatalism of Islam, which radically denies the free exercise of individual conscience and does so in such an irrational manner as to also preclude any rational objections to Allah’s revealed will. Note these verses of the Quran that explicitly assert predestination of the human soul, and the lack of morally responsible free agency…..

Allah predestines certain people to do evil and then damns them to suffer eternal torture in hell on account of having committed such evil acts.

Hmmm ……… a real meanie, that Allah.  

The only way around this moral impasse is to appeal to the restoration of all things…….. Apocatastasis.  

This is what the BPWH is all about……. Alpha >> Omega.



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Yeah duder!

How can you argue with that!?

Who do you think you are!?

"The Gates of the Afterlife Have Opened"

U wrote:Yeah duder!

How can you argue with that!?

Who do you think you are!?

fooo, mayor of goblin town

Chivo is enjoying his vacation away from OMF.  

He adds how silly it is to suppose that the Sun might go out.

I remind him of Owen Barfield……. Saving the Appearances.  

Who is going to save the appearances, when we go bye-bye ?

Occasionalism has it that Allah saves the appearances.

Well, the unobservable universe is no universe at all…… unless you believe in the Big Bang.  

Should everyone who doesn’t believe in the Big Bang be thrown into the looney bin?  

Physically, the Sun makes no sense other than as an artifact of the Big Bang.  

Metaphysically, it might make sense as an artifact of consciousness.

Well, ok, but is it a necessary feature of consciousness?

Obviously not, because the Sun disappears every night.  

However, one may postulate that consciousness makes no sense unless it is part of the best possible world…… and the BPW makes no sense without a Sun.  

Oh?  Has that been proven?

No, but it is plausible, is it not?  

Creation might have been a playpen.

Ok, we would have been God’s children, which many of us believe, anyway.  

The thing about Nature is that it can be awesome without being overbearing.  

Otherwise, Allah would always be right in our faces.  

Think of Nature as a modesty panel for Allah.

God must love atheists, otherwise she wouldn’t have created so many of us.  

Can we even imagine a world without Nature?  

Well, many of us urbanites have hardly ever seen Nature.  

Is that true?

We see bodies every day.  

Bodies constitute a pretty big part of Nature for most of us…… whether we live in a city or in a village in the jungle.  

Nothing has brought so many of us so close to Nature as the television.  

The Sun, more than anything else, is totally entangled with Nature.

Well, except maybe for us.

Between the two of us, there wouldn’t be much of anything.



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Dan: Bodies constitute a pretty big part of Nature for most of us ...

"You'll need a body." -- Team Manager at Jumadeung Soul Management Dept.

The Afterlife is run by a corporation, apparently.

In order to unravel the world, all we have to do is know what string to pull, and when to pull it.  

We pull the third string……. using tasseography.    

It’s that simple.  

The timing………?

It is integral to the process.  

We just have to pull the right tassel at the right time.  

Putin is likely to be part of the process.  

Pulling the right string is synonymous with opening the right portal…… the portal with the right entanglement.  

No, the Eschaton will not be immanentized.  

And, yes……. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thunder,_Perfect_Mind



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Dan: Pulling the right string is synonymous with opening the right portal…… the portal with the right entanglement.


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2022. 04. 12 PM 18:00

1450z…….

Continuing to read Holy Russia…….

Ostensibly, there has been very little mention of the occult.  

There is significant mention of the mysticism that prevails amongst the elite, until it is challenged by the Enlightenment, and then by a nascent Marxism.

How Putin is able to believe that his atrocities in Ukraine will be able turn the tide against materialism is not easy to perceive.  

Is Vladimir with the Katechon or against it?

One might ask the same of three.  

Are they personalists or not?

The early stages of his venture into Ukraine has solidified his support at home.  

But how deep is that support?

How deep is the Russian fear of modernism?  

Can the Russians distinguish between Marxism and capitalism?

Is there a distinction…….. in the Russian mind?

Is there a distinction in the Trumpian mind?  

What is holy about Russia?  

Where does the facism stop and the holiness begin?  


1940……….

I just got off a three hour conversation with David Gladstone……..

David sometimes claims to be an atheist, but he does believe in VALIS.

After some back and forth (3hr), we agreed that there was probably only one VALIS.  

Each one of us could be a projection of VALIS in some virtual reality.  

Who created VALIS?  Hmmm …….?

VALIS might be self created.  

David recalled the Wheeler universe (U) staring at itself.  

Would the Singular VALIS be the best possible VALIS?  

…… redundant question.  

So, yes, great minds have to think alike.  

Because, in the end, there is only one (VALIS) mind.  

The only unanswered question is whether VALIS is personal or not.  

What do you think?  

We have a similar situation with the Universe….. well, maybe a reverse situation.  

With our universe supporting life, it either has to be finely tuned, or be one of 10^500 universes in an inflating multiverse.  

Occam’s razor would incline us toward the former.  

Now, I don’t doubt that there are many kinds of sentience, however, there are aspects of sapience suggesting a depth and universality that may be of a singular design…….. much as we suppose VALIS would be.  

Ok, so who’s to say that we’re not created in the image of VALIS….. within the best possible virtual reality?

Ok……. we have one last item to discuss…….

Is VALIS finite or infinite?

Many signs point to VALIS as being self contained……. which, by definition, points toward a quantitative finitude……. and equally points to a qualitative infinitude.

Any other questions?



(cont………)

Sun blows up?



Dan: With our universe supporting life, it either has to be finely tuned, or be one of 10^500 universes in an inflating multiverse.

The Multiverse is the mathematical representation of the address problem: which world are you in?

Uncertainty reigns supreme. The mind is full of imaginings, "the best possible" is the goal.

“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you."

What world are you asking for?

"In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you."

https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/dia/AAWSAP-DIRDs/DIRD_26-DIRD_Anomalous_Acute_and_Subacute_Field_Effects_on_Human_Biological_Tissues.pdf

But Dan, so many religions hold the Sun to be their greatest deity, would you and your little friends dare to take that away from them!?

https://www.concen.org/content/mark-passio-world-run-solar-cult-psychopaths/info

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3ydn4z/mark_passio_the_world_is_run_by_a_solar_cult_of/

"QOUTE"



"Solar' within this context is referring more to the astrotheological and symbolic abstraction of multiple associations, more than it simply has to do with the sun, as in 'solar panel'.

In the realm of the occult, and borrowed from similarities among many different folk religions such as cults and greek/roman/jewish and older mythologies, Solar has to do with paternalism, authoritarianism, statism, hierarchies (think: Roman Empire..a solar cult); Apollonian associations, Male aspect in Gnostic nondualism/bipolarity (Sun / Moon -- Male / Female -- Positive/Negative -- Anima/Animas as dual-nature and alchemical aspect of the One); technology; war; respect; conformity; compliance; uniformity; rote learning; organizations; procedural; left-brained.

The opposite of Solar would be Lunar. Female. Dark. Magical. Ayahuasca. Mother Goddess. Hecate / ISIS / Semiramis / Lilith. Terrestrial. Left hand path ("evil", "dark magic"), biology, botany, herbalism, science, psychedelics, mind expansion, peer-to-peer, communities; creative, artful, intuitive, love / emotion; right-brained."

Kit Green, back in the spotlight:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10696303/Military-officers-suffered-injuries-UFO-encounters.html

EXCLUSIVE: 'They woke up burned or injured.' Top brain expert and ex-CIA officer reveals hundreds of military servicemen suffered brain damage or symptoms of the mysterious 'Havana Syndrome' and even DEATH after encountering UFOs
Forensic neuroimaging expert Christopher Green says he has dealt with 'hundreds of patients' who were injured or died after interacting with UFOs
'I'm the go-to physician in the Department of Defense for unexplained morbidity and mortality,' he told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview
'I do look at injuries and mortality from unidentified UAPs (unidentified aerial phenomena),' he added
Green, a professor at the Wayne State School of Medicine in Detroit, was in 2010 commissioned to write a paper by a secret $22M defense program
He described symptoms of multiple sclerosis, brain damage, and burns among patients from '[Close Encounters of the Third and Fourth Kind] events'
He said symptoms of many of the cases were similar to 'Havana Syndrome' - a mysterious illness affecting diplomats and US officials in embassies around the world
Green said many of his patients experienced burns and brain damage and that around one in ten died within seven years of their reported encounter