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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:29 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Bjc could stand for lots of things.  It’s possible to suppose that it stands Baltimore Junior College.  It’s possible to suppose that c stands for chick, which is short for chicken.  

    Talk about a pink slip, yesterday, puts me in mind of being laid off, which puts me in mind of a retrospective.........

    And a topic header does require at least ten characters.......

    The allotted length for a thread is 40 pages...... giving us a chance to take the occasional breather...... as the show goes on.


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    Post by U Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:11 pm

    I am the deep state. The real one, the deep deep state...
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    Post by dan Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:00 am

    1500z.......

    Chivo styles himself as being avant-garde, and little chick 🐥 as being a retrograde.  

    He basically wants to be a postmodern re-enactor of the Enlightenment...... as if that were possible.

    Isn’t Chivo a pluralist?

    No.  And neither was the Enlightenment.  

    He is no more of a pluralist than are the Buddhists.  

    Chivo is more of a solipsist than anything else.  

    All this while he is riding the Silicon Valley wave.  

    He is hanging ten with the best of them...... and that’s what they are all saying...... if you aren’t ‘here now’, you are in nowhere’s ville.  And may the devil take the hindmost of the rest of us.  

    Nothing like just a little bit of privilege...... and nose thumbing.  

    To all such solipsists and pluralists, alike, Truth is a cosmic threat...... as if an asteroid ☄ were heading for the planet.  

    It is, and you won’t be able to duck and cover.  

    The (best possible) Eschaton cometh........ we are about to awoken from the slumber of Silicon Valley materialism...... awoken to the Truth.  

    And what is the Truth....... as Pontius Pilate famously asked.  

    The jguy had no comeback...... other than to spend eight hours on the cross....... and capture the imagination of the world.  

    The Truth is one...... it is the One.

    The Truth is more likely to come than the Sun is to arise on the ‘morrow......... and I do mean that literally, sports fans.  

    Have no doubt...... the Truth will outshine the Sun.  

    It always has been outshining the Sun.  The Sun exists only as a decoy from the Truth....... it is the Veil over the Truth...... pure and simple.  

    The jguy has been outshining the Sun..... in our hearts...... and that’s where it counts.  That is the cosmic high rent district.  

    Yes, sports fans, the rent is excruciatingly high on the summit of Monadnock...... but not to worry...... we will all easily squeeze in.  

    It’s called agape.  


    1640.........

    Facts spring up......... Truth rains 🌧 down.  

    Let a thousand flowers 💐 bloom....... sunflowers 🌻!  

    Yes, the Logos Spermatikos will bloom...... and carry us Heavenward.

    This is the wedding feast in the sky...... the Rapture.  

    The portals will open, and the Earth will take a DMT trip.  

    Chivo will be the last Mohican........ he got a bit too close to the flame 🔥.  

    And a word to the wise....... don’t let the Truth rain on your parade.  

    Well....... you know what I mean...... referring to the legions of sleepwalkers.  

    And don’t let the Sun catch you crying.  

    But, no, there are no sleepwalkers........ they are just being extraordinarily patient....... bless their hearts.  

    Little chick 🐥.......?  Just a tad less patient.  

    And, yes, I do have my ear 👂 to the cosmic rail.

    But, not to worry......... no one will miss the glory train...... not even a smelly goat 🐐 💨!  


    1750...........

    The Truth is one........ it is coherence..... it is agape.  

    There are those who tout chaos.  

    Chaos is much overrated.  

    What many see as social chaos is merely the chrysalis phase of our metamorphosis....... when the cells rearrange themselves......and we ain’t seen nothing, yet.  

    We are the brain cells of cosmic consciousness.  

    We will know ourselves for the first time when we get there.  

    The internet is the very rudimentary version of this nervous system.  

    Well, the internet is our step ladder 🪜 to cosmic consciousness...... we will push it aside when we get there.  

    And, as we grow into our new Self, we will be feeling very solicitous of our old selves....... like a mother toward her baby...... a particularly petulant baby....... demanding 😰 lots of attention!  

    Yes, I have said that we could sit down and have a beer 🍺 with God........ well, it may be a bit more like breast feeding 🤱.  


    2210.........

    I wouldn’t dream of speaking for foot, but, otherwise, me thinks that is a bit harsh, Chivo.  Try to make your point with a little less name calling.  


    Evolution is a bit like the Sun....... it is our best possible distraction from the Truth.  But, if we can rationalize electrons, I think we won’t have much difficulty rationalizing evolution.  

    Why such stunning distractions?  

    How many scientists have been driven to perdition?  

    None...... zero.  We have been taken for a wild and wonderful ride.  

    Do you want your money back?  

    Was it worth the price of admission?  

    The naturalism is truly awesome 😎 to behold.  

    Would we have settled for anything less?  

    But we shan’t tarry too long, admiring our own workmanship.

    We have many miles to go before we sleep 💤.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:14 pm

    Yuh couldn’t handle the truth, which is why you cracked egghead.

    I was born for this, resistance is futile, one of the benefits of infinite time.

    I am here before and long after.

    “Go, go, go, said the bird: human kind cannot bear very much reality.”

    cracked egg wrote:Chivo is more of a solipsist than anything else.  

    All this while he is riding the Silicon Valley wave.

    Pretty good trick for a flying 🏄️  goat, eh?!

    It’s even simpler than that muppet.

    I got that swing and yuh don’t.

    Get some.

    You have no idea, ahhhhhh, this is fun.

    https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/nswRUpso9K3Rq7vQ9

    Forget all the silly philosophy ape chatter.

    God will ask yuh one thing, will see it in you, have you known kindness?

    Of course, god is your voice.

    Of course, god is your face.

    Of course, god is your mind.

    Of course, god is your being.

    Of course, we move in love.

    God sought companions, not slaves.

    I will spew that unkindness out of my mouth.

    This is kindness.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:26 pm

    U wrote:I am the deep state. The real one, the deep deep state...

    The maelstrom doesn’t speak, it only devours.

    Pretender.

    Be devoured and then we can know each other.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:32 pm

    The cracked egg 🍳 and left foot 🦶 are pathological liars, like Trump.

    They can only see what they can see, nothing more.

    They are locked into their scripts now, no freedom of movement.

    Total nihilists, inevitable.

    They just couldn’t put it together.

    Well, that’s ok, not many do.

    They are just muppets after all, playing their parts.

    They will have the reward of their nihilism.

    Yuh wait and see.

    The ‘I’ is the dark spot in consciousness and that’s where you live muppets, yuh come from a spot of nothing.

    I can ride the big waves too

    Let’s see how you do

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    We all fall down

    Superchivo awaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy...
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    Post by GSB Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:01 pm

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:09 pm

    This Thou Art

    We are all of will, it doesn’t matter what name you have.

    I shall finish my thought...

    No no, Dan would suppose he worked out rationalism and empiricism and existentialism, all those isms, good book title Wink

    He claims to have solved Leibniz and Hume and Kant and Schopenhauer and Nietzsche and Wittgenstein and Heidegger, oh my.

    Realism, nor idealism are right, it’s some mix.

    Kant and Schopenhauer considered the world of things-in-themselves and supposed there must be a substrate we can’t know.

    Time and space aren’t there, but attributes of mind. The world is my representation.

    Meaty stuff to wrestle with.

    You have to do them better and I don’t see that, I am continuing their thread.

    Schopenhauer was an interesting one.

    Will cannot die in his reckoning and this was the secret substrate we meet within ourselves.

    Is there anything objective to know or is it all subjective, round and round we go.

    It is noteworthy that Schopenhauer came to the same place as the Upanishads independently.

    Nothing is settled.

    Will, the kernel or all reality itself, the will to be.

    Will to power?

    Perhaps.

    One can only live their will, I might call that following your bliss, your passion.

    Is there anything real beyond opinion we can know?

    Is the work a manifestation of god or will?

    What’s the difference Wink

    The atheist knows the will as their true selves.

    That is interesting, isn’t it?

    They have no choice, do they?!

    Daemonic people, not evil or benevolent.

    Driven by nourishment and propagation.

    Schopenhauer suggests we must escape the will!

    Philosophy lays bare the nature of the world, driven by a naked striving will.

    It is our nature to seek goals and meet desire.

    Caught between Schopenhauer the crypto Buddhist and Nietzsche’s life affirming denial of suffering.

    What’s a goat to do?

    Gotta go your own way.

    These geniuses will just twist you up.

    One way leads only to mystic absorption.

    The other into meaningless.

    My inner sense guides me toward magic realism, this is another door.

    A little bit country and a little bit rock n roll.

    I do not regret the mastery of a craft in the world and to have a purpose and family. Dan would negate all ability in light of his nihilism.

    No stories are true, but we seem to do best grounded in ourselves, the only real thing we know.

    If I was not a smelly 🐐 I’d be a smelly 🦶goat hooves are best for high climates.

    The one who does not amor fati, love your fate, is lost.
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    Post by Foot Mann Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:15 am

    I am not you, and she is not me. I am the Footman.
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    Post by hobbit Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:45 am

    Foot Mann wrote:I am not you, and she is not me. I am the Footman.



    All is one, literally all is one, and humans are not special, just a variant cake mixture.

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    Post by dan Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:15 am

    1715z........

    A couple of years ago, Ron claimed that John S, Skai....., was also logging into OMF under Footmann.  

    I, certainly, would not venture to do such a thing.  

    That is all I know on that subject.


    hobbit,

    It is the modern view that humans are not special.

    You claim that your dowsing skills are special, and they are certainly not accepted within the scientific worldview.  

    You live in a glass house, do not throw stones.


    Chivo,

    Philosophically, I am a relationalist and a monist...... the (virtual) nexus of all relations is the Monad/Source..... but even the Monad is not objective....... it is inter-subjective.  

    Relative to the Noumenon, Kant was a mystic.  I’m a gnostic.  

    Ultimately, persons are omniscient and omnipotent...... we are the Creators of the best possible world.  

    Ultimately, the Noumenal becomes phenomenal, relative to us, persons.  

    That is our transcendental destiny.  

    Chivo speaks of magical realism and mystical absorption......

    Yes, that will be the fate of all of us, on the way (back) to our Source.

    And, yes, very reluctantly, Chivo is in the process of admitting that the BPW is the only way to avoid sheer nihilism/materialism.  

    Hallelujah, sports fans!  

    As goes Chivo, so goes the world.  


    1930.........

    Chivo.......
    Philosophy lays bare the nature of the world, driven by a naked striving will.  
     Ultimately, we discover that ‘naked, striving will’ just to be our own will, under the aegis of Eternity.  
    Schopenhauer suggests we must escape [that] will!
    That would be tantamount to escaping our best possible fate.  

    Sorry, Arthur, by design, we’re all in the same boat....... bound for glory.  

    Yes, this is our mission impossible....... none of us would be here, had we not chosen so.  

    Just to be a person is to be on a mission into the (best possible) wilderness.  

    Trust me, if we truly had feint hearts, we would not even be here.  

    Yes, we have seen the wilderness, and the wilderness is ours.  


    Princess, yesterday........
    I just heard you might be on Santa’s naughty list.
    Well, maybe that’s because little chick 🐥 has been able to subvert foot’s plan to cancel the Inauguration.  

    Poor foot 🦶........ win some, lose some.  

    When it comes to canceling donny, I will be glad to take full responsibility...... me and my little virus 🦠.



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    Post by hobbit Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:50 am

    dan wrote:A couple of years ago, Ron claimed that John S, Skai....., was also logging into OMF under Footmann.  

    I, certainly, would not venture to do such a thing.  

    That is all I know on that subject.


    hobbit,

    It is the modern view that humans are not special.

    You claim that your dowsing skills are special, and they are certainly not accepted within the scientific worldview.  

    You live in a glass house, do not throw stones.



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    Wrong, I live in 400 year old stone house.

    "Scientific worldview"
    Thank goodness for small mercies, I have no time idiots, most so called scientists are nothing more than repeaters of false garbage.

    My dowsing senses are on full alert right now due to the solstice and two big stars adding to the consequences.

    The so called scientists are saying that covid ( Certificate of Vaccination ID ) has morphed and the rest of the world has abandoned us , strangely I live within a couple of miles of an old leper colony, and Your J guy is supposed to have touched and comforted such?
    My senses say this covid shit is ballocks, but We must obey and all become the borg as resistance is futile.

    Vive La resistance.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:47 pm

    Welcome to Aquarius.

    Jesus is out, buh bye.

    I hope ya’ll did your homework.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:48 pm

    Foot Mann wrote:I am not you, and she is not me. I am the Footman.

    Kookookachu

    ‘I’ is the blind spot you exist in.

    Walrus!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:09 pm

    cracked egg wrote:Philosophically, I am a relationalist and a monist...... the (virtual) nexus of all relations is the Monad/Source..... but even the Monad is not objective....... it is inter-subjective.  

    That’s, just like, your opinion, man.

    You will have to do better.

    I’d say, you are lost in thought.

    No one got it right, go your own way, that’s the end of my road anyway.

    I found everyone has their own language and I can’t give mine to anyone else.

    You know how hard people prepare to meet their holy guardian angels, daimons?!

    This is hard work.

    It gets easier, but still, until you make the connection, I couldn’t even imagine how insane this world would seem.

    We are all selfish bastards to be sure, be authentic at least now.  

    I think a little of Leibniz, Socrates, Plato, Kant, Nietzsche and the rest, when seen overlapping, might have something.

    A lot of this aligns with the east too.

    I am no mystic, no gnostic or nihilist.

    🐐💨

    I don’t think the virus 🦠 world will end now.

    I think now we will have one mutation after another until one of us is dead.

    You can live a fine life in virus world too.

    These are the times one might miss Eden or hope for eternal rest.

    Like, enough already.

    I don’t think Saturn 🪐 is going to be much nicer.

    Hello Satan, my old friend.

    I have met Lucifer in the liminal world.

    Sat upon a flaming thrown, a goat with flaming eyes 👀 floating all around.

    Fun times.

    We laughed at Jesus, the holy one didn’t get the joke.

    You know, this might just be my time.

    Reminds me something the goat said in the underworld.

    The goat will rise, Superchivo!

    Remember your imaginary friends, well, try to talk to them again.

    I chose Wilderness myself here and would have it no other way.

    If you haven’t practiced stoicism, you really should check it out.

    You are gonna need those skills heading into the maelstrom.

    There is no more shore.

    The unknown and dissolving world kinda 🔥  me up.

    Get up. Find it.

    Amor Fati



    “You must change your life.”

    Philosophy, says Socrates, is not so much about knowing this or that as it is about being this or that way. As a matter of being, philosophical activity is closely tied to the actions of the person, and specifically to the person’s ability to apply the mind to itself. “We must not avoid constantly and rigorously examining the way we live.” —Hadot

    Apply the mind to itself.

    “This does not mean that philosophy is not interested in knowledge or truth, quite the opposite. It means that knowledge and truth are not the kinds of things that can be directly received or transmitted. Humans are not data retrieval centers or simple information processing computers of any kind. As Hadot notes, neither knowledge nor truth “can be received ready-made, but must be engendered by the individual.” Philosophy on Hadot’s account is thus a kind of askēsis, a discipline of self- transformation, oriented around a set of practices unique to each school of philosophy.

    Sloterdijk’s side view charts just this history of askēsis, in a way re-framing the question, What is philosophy? by asking, Whois the philosopher? This move re-centers questions of knowledge to questions of the person, where knowledge becomes a question of shaping the individual. As Hadot notes of Aristotle, “For Aristotle true knowledge is born only from long familiarity with concepts and methods . . . without this personal effort, the auditor cannot assimilate discourse; it will remain useless to him.”8 Knowledge and truth, then, are grown inside the individual through effort and practice.”

    No truth written is true.

    “Theory is never considered an end in itself; it is clearly and decidedly put in the service of practice.”

    Habit in this view is a gravitational field, and philosophers must achieve escape velocity to change the conditions of their existence. Sloterdijk writes, “The adept can only rid themselves of their baggage by subjecting their life to a rigorous practice regime by which they can de-automatize their behavior in all important dimensions. At the same time, they must re-automatize their newly learned behavior so that what they want to be or represent becomes second nature.”

    Hadot is clear that the askēsis of self- transformation is also central to modern philosophical projects, including those of Renée Descartes and Immanuel Kant. Specifically, Hadot sees Descartes as committed to an askēsis of the soul: “I believe that when Descartes chose to give one of his works the title Meditations, he knew perfectly well that the word designated an exercise of the soul within the tradition of ancient spirituality.”

    Hadot suggests, such a new self- consciousness must not only be achieved once but must be re-achieved again and again so that the new consciousness may gain entry into the permanent memory of the body. The realization of truth in this way requires more than evidence or logical argument, but also the askēsis of the self in dialogue with itself as it advances through a specific series of deliberately designed meditative exercises.

    On Hadot’s reading, this same interpretation—that modern philosophical works cannot be divorced from the practices that rendered them—is true of the works of Kant. “The entire edifice of critical Kantian philosophy,” writes Hadot, “has meaning only from the perspective of wisdom, or rather from that of the sage.”26Hadot in this context takes up Kant’s own distinction between “scholastic” and “worldly” philosophy. The former philosophy is content with being systematic, with remaining at the level of pure theory, and at the level of the disengaged professor who does not practice. The latter takes up the task of living in the cosmic world of the human individual, who lives according to the Idea of the sage, the ideal philosopher. As Hadot notes of Kant, such a sage does not in actuality exist, at least not as any one person, but rather forms a lure, a regulative ideal, for our moral and philosophical actions. In this, says Hadot, Kant links the cosmic perspective of the ideal sage to the concrete practicality of our efforts to transform ourselves for the betterment of the world.”

    The best world demands our best.

    I think this ideal sage is none other than Socrates’ Daimon/Daemon.

    The philosopher then is the western shaman, and there is a difference between practicing philosophers and dead ones.

    Far from being an activity of isolated individuals, the side view sees philosophy as a community practice. In this way, the practice of the self is deeply connected to a care for the city, for the community at large. At the same time, the philosopher is the one who stands partly at a distance from the community. Socrates, for example, both marks a break with and participates in the daily life of Athens, his city (polis). As Hadot writes, “Socrates is simultaneously in the world and outside it. . . . He is involved with people and with things because the only true philosophy lies in the everyday.”

    The only true philosophy lies in the everyday.

    There is a side view of History and Philosophy that offers one a key.

    But you will work for it.

    You will rip yourself apart.

    While Socrates is involved in the city and its activities, he is also átopos—strange, extravagant, absurd, or placeless. Thus just as the philosopher lives the bios theoretikos she also lives the bios xenikos, the life of the stranger, a part of the world but a bit askew from it, neither in the world nor completely outside of it. “The philosopher,” writes Hadot, “is not only an intermediary being, but . . . is also a mediator. . . . He is not at home in either the world of senseless people or the world of sages; neither wholly in the world of men and women, nor wholly in the world of gods.”

    Above all, the philosopher is cognizant of ignorance. The philosopher emerges in this context as the one who stands outside the moment, the culture, and the context. This act of standing outside, of seceding from the habitual world, is on Sloterdijk’s account the primary ethical act.

    Having stood outside, in between, I can say something in us is activated turning the mind back on itself, a bridge is built.

    This is a planet where self reflection is possible, we live spherically.

    We are not humans yet, we are muppets given the chance to be here as human beings.

    I think it best to stay focused right in the middle of your life.

    BTW, TTSA is disbanding, pretenders all.

    Instead of building the bridge, they look for signs in the sky, talk about being distracted.

    I think examining UFOs 🛸 philosophically, one must base the exercise in the human condition.
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    Post by dan Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:42 am

    1640z.........

    Little chick 🐥 estimates that Chivo has come as far toward the Truth as any person should attempt.  

    Coming any further renders you a freak...... and who really needs that?  

    I’m ok being a freak....... I crossed that bridge 🌉 a long time ago.  

    Short of having a portal 🚪 in my back pocket, all I can do is point to the future....... point to the city 🌃 on the hill.  

    I can be the armchair tour director....... to the land of Oz, never having been there, myself.  

    With the internet, one freak can go a long way.  

    One voice in the wilderness is all it takes.  

    I can leave behind a guide book 📖 to the Monad.  

    Well, more accurately, it is a history book, to tell us how we got here.  

    We need to know who we are, and from whence we came....... only then may we see whither we are going.  

    Yes, the God of Concealment, is all about managing the fake news 📰.  

    There is only one essential piece of fake news........ the Big Bang.

    All the rest is just filler.  

    But you cannot properly dismiss the Big Bang without first being able to grok it.

    Fear not, sports fans, little chick 🐥 has grokked the Big Bang.  

    It is a truly impressive work of art 🖼.  

    You can study it for years, and never cease to be amazed.  

    It is an absolutely essential feature of the best possible world.  

    Do not dismiss or reject the Big Bang.

    Embracing the Big Bang is the only way you will get to Heaven.  

    The Big Bang may only be transcended.  

    In other words, the Bible pounders will never make it.  

    The Bible was only the first stage of our rocketship 🚀 to Heaven.  

    The Bible will get you all the way to Newton.  

    Your next false summit is the Big Bang and physicalism.  

    Physicalism is your jumping off point to immaterialism and personalism.  

    There are no shortcuts.  

    Chivo, for instance is a college drop out.

    Does mama not allow college dropouts in Heaven?  

    Yes, mama does allow college dropouts in Heaven.......but, there is a caveat......

    You must be up to snuff on the BPWH.  


    1840........

    And, if you wish to go down donny’s rabbit 🐇 hole 🕳, just check out Simon Parkes.  Perhaps he’s a friend of foot’s 🦶.  

    Frankly, I believe that the BPWH will suffice.  


    As soon as the Princess 👸 deigns to open the portals, pre-K will be up to snuff on the BPWH.  That will come about in a flash.  


    Simon says.........

    With regard to Simon’s conspiracy theory, there is no clue as to who might be behind the conspiracy...... who is calling the shots?  

    Yes, Simon, there is a deep state....... it is the deep Monad....... get over it, get used to it.  


    2220.........

    Being skeptical of the the Big Bang is only a step away from snake handling in Appalachia.  

    I wouldn’t recommend going there....... not until the Princess opens the portals.  

    But, when she does, that is where we’re all headed.  

    Is little chick 🐥 gambling away his life..... just on innuendo relative to one woman?  

    I’m sure that many think that.  

    But, I’m not quite that reckless.  

    The Princess is my excuse for getting personal about the portals.  

    I define portals as broadly as possible.  

    Portal phenomena, in my lexicon, include all paranormal/anomalous/psychedelic phenomena.  I appreciate the greater specificity of portals..... their inter dimensionality.  

    In the End, it’s going to be portals vs the Big Bang.  

    And what is the Big Bang, other than a portal?  

    We could say that it is the portal out of which evolution emerged.  

    The Princess emerged out of a portal....... as did we all, in effect.  

    We think of the Alpha portal, with Adam and Eve.  

    Think of the mitochondrial Eve Hypothesis.  

    Even academicians have to play this game...... bless their hearts!  

    Biologists have no choice but to speak of punctuated equilibria.  

    Remember the old shibboleth....... nature doesn’t make jumps.  Hmmm..........


    0040..........

    I forgot our primary portal......... our consciousness.  

    I have called it our quantum aperture......... back in the days when I was a quantum dualist...... on my way to monism.  

    Yes, and seeds are a sort of aperture........ especially the Logos Spermatikos.  

    A particle is an aperture relative to mathematical physics.  

    DMT provides an aperture within an aperture.  

    I’ve said that everything is an aperture to everything else....... a microcosm....... as with Indra’s Necklace.  

    All existence being relative........ corresponds to the doctrine of sunyata.  

    Agape is the only thing holding it all together.  

    I know for sure that some Princess figures in all of this.

    Am I to be forgiven for thinking it might be my goddaughter?



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:35 pm

    Ha!

    Yes, I’m an American bastard.

    But I’m not angry at the leet.

    You can skip right over power if you don’t care about power.

    I suppose one does follow their will to survive and then their will to power.

    Not power over others, the greatest power comes from overcoming ones blind spot, themselves, where we live 99% of the time.

    This is where Hitler and every prik in history got stuck.

    Dan wrote:Is little chick 🐥 gambling away his life..... just on innuendo relative to one woman?

    Appears so, you know why?

    Cause you reached for it and they caught you.

    I don’t know the future and have as good or better read of history than you do.

    No one will save you.

    No saving needed, we aren’t lost or in prison, silly Gnostics.

    I don’t know why anyone would waste time on others for answers.

    All the ones who found themselves, don’t have any answers, just cryptic practices.

    Well, it ain’t easy moving out of conformity, shifting your orbit.

    You can’t live happy as a stranger.

    But you can have a fine life if you live as a friend and companion to the worthy.

    The practices don’t bring any truth, they just prepare the soil and deprogram you, the rest, you will find yourself.

    That’s the ultimate portal, the one you become aware of.

    If god itself appeared before me and offered me the book of books, the portal of portals, I’d burn the book on the spot, close the portal and cut God’s head off.

    No hard feelings.

    I’m just getting to the meaty stuff Wink

    I can’t stop now.

    Superchivo awaaaaayyyyyyyy!
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    I’m your friend Dan.

    Your bastard friend.

    A companion.

    I have never wanted anything from you or Jack or any of his friends, except maybe some playtime.

    I came here, pure of heart and I see that could be my greatest pride or redeeming quality.

    Sometimes it seems your attachment to the princess is like Gollum from Tolkien.

    The princess is your precious and you have to admit, you have had an unhealthy attachment at times.

    I would suggest, she has helped you by setting you up, helping you maybe to see into why this story is so precious to you.

    How personal is that?!

    Gollum's obsessive addiction to the One Ring blinds his intellect. It is his mad dismissal of truth and the sullying of his intellect that bring about his downfall.

    If any of us is more precious than another and knows it, then do away with all not precious and be done with this tyranny, if you have the power.

    Just a thought.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:08 am

    As you have discussed DMT recently, I thought this a great example.

    How funny to hear someone from that time filmed in black and white seeing in technical color.

    What is different about DMT is that you see clear as day with eyes closed.

    LSD is more visual, not as deep into the unconscious, eyes open.

    DMT can take you to some strange places and beings without moving.

    DMT is an eyes wide shut experience.

    You can see what is possible in this film.

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    Post by hobbit Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:21 pm

    Smelly El Chivo wrote:As you have discussed DMT recently, I thought this a great example.

    How funny to hear someone from that time filmed in black and white seeing in technical color.

    What is different about DMT is that you see clear as day with eyes closed.

    LSD is more visual, not as deep into the unconscious, eyes open.

    DMT can take you to some strange places and beings without moving.

    DMT is an eyes wide shut experience.

    You can see what is possible in this film.


    I have experienced the DMT effect, but not by any drugs, but at what Dan calls a portal.

    It was at a place called The whispering Knights.....a relic of a portal chamber...our ancestors knew these locations ever so well ( and water is involved)

    The thing is WE are our ancestors.
    Turn, turn , turn.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:18 pm

    Yes hobbit.

    I would bet that certain env factors can trigger DMT production, which would make unconscious awareness accessible.

    Some people may make more DMT, hence the ecstatic religious/shaman person.

    Some communication techniques may effect DMT I bet, set and setting.

    Meditation, breathing techniques.

    Perhaps many magic rituals are triggering DMT release.

    I guess Theurgy must work with the help of DMT to hallucinate the forms that inhabit statues.

    https://hellenicfaith.com/animated-statues/

    It is still not well studied.

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    I think we should be careful believing our senses.

    I don't think we can trust our senses beyond helping us avoid dying walking off a cliff or something.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:42 pm

    The trump cult is on high alert.

    Everything that begins ends, so what?!

    Don’t drink the kool-aid.

    Trump is about to go full Jim Jones.
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    Post by hobbit Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:36 am

    Smelly one......senses.

    Our senses are of the vehicle, as are headlamps on a car.

    When that first experience occurred I had climbed on top of some oolite limestone rocks.
    https://www.rollrightstones.co.uk/stones/whispering-knights
    My vehicle was annoyed at not having it's senses, it could not see or feel the rocks it was stood upon , it was really upset, the actual Me was loving it all and chatting away to My 5D eternal self, the colours  and sounds and complete embrace of love is beyond words.

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    Post by dan Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:34 am

    I haven’t spoken of memory, for some time.

    Memory is time portal within the portal of consciousness....... our very own Stargate.

    If you wish to accept the atomic rationale for memory, please be my guest....... and I know a bridge 🌉 in Brooklyn that you might be interested in.

    Memory is very closely allied with consciousness. The combination of the two....... you would think it might give pause to the physicalists, but, hey, they barely blink.

    Many physicists have spent their careers studying quarks....... quarks have a very complex identity...... where is that memory/identity stored? Do quarks have brain cells....... really, now.......?!

    Where is the memory of the Mandelbrot stored?



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    Post by hobbit Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:34 pm

    Memory is in the consciousness, that's why I have studied alzheimers from a dowsing perspective for years.

    The personal field of consciousness is detectable and measurable, all our memories are written opposite to an LP, that is from the centre outwards in the field of consciousness.


    Thus as the outer diameters are lost , so is the memory written in the consciousness circulations.

    Alzheimers patients can only remember the first memories circulating close to them, children have huge field diameters often fifty feet diameter, alzheimers are a foot or so diameter.


    If this planets memory is lost , then all will forget, the planet will then become barren.

    Consciousness is omni present but collects into local dual spin circulations that reverse at the heart centre, I can follow this via dowsing.

    ALL independent life forms are within such, and have free will to move independent of the planets field.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:35 pm

    To be lost in the infinite is to be overwhelmed by possibilities.

    To be lost in the finite is to live in fantasy.

    No one understands where decisions are made.

    No one can answer if they are freely acting or not, usually not.

    You put a hand up and randomly make gestures.

    Something decides what gesture before it’s formed.

    I didn’t choose it.

    A part of me I’m not conscious of did.

    It does not appear our conscious mind is driving most of the time, if ever.

    We can never express the fullness of experience in words.

    So what could anyone gain or lose from the words of others?

    Mostly misunderstanding.

    Oh, you are an individual with your own thoughts?

    Are you?

    Sure about that?

    Living free from the herd is difficult, it’s not an all or nothing situation.

    The value of Religions is that they help organize commitments to a certain way of life.

    They are a helpful way to live if you don’t lose yourself in it.

    I call bullshitz on modern religion, individualism is the only way out of it.

    Later when you are steadier and have more experience and awareness, you can try for your own life, beyond the herd.

    No training wheels.

    Then put the gods back on the shelf and bow to them out of respect.

    What was for today may not be for tomorrow.

    One muppet’s best world is another’s hell.

    If one is half in and half out of the herd, this is the best position logically.

    What we struggle with and what philosophy can help with, is giving you some distance from things so you are not totally absorbed by the infinite or the finite.

    That’s all.

    To live the religion of the herd is to go along to get along.

    To have a nation and a leader removes the burden on those in the herd.

    But it also makes them fat for the plucking.

    The Evangelical church today is mostly run by crooks and the prosperity gospel.

    They represent the state religion of capitalism, consumer faith.

    When the culture fails, and the state fails, when gods fail, we turn to dictators and we stop thinking and act out the will of the leader.

    No thanks, whatever life is, that’s not my fate thankfully.

    I was always a trouble maker in church.

    The words made no sense to me, people were mostly hurting each other.

    I saw no real love, just acts of selfishness, in myself most.

    The dead leader or religion or state or culture possesses us, a false sit in for the void.

    Is a balance possible, sure I think, as in all things.

    UFOs can overwhelm the muppet.

    Politics can overwhelm the muppet.

    Religion can overwhelm the muppet.

    Work can overwhelm the muppet.

    Silence can overwhelm the muppet.

    I have realized the value maintaining my own council.

    I can worship any or no god, live as a citizen in any country or none. Let anyone temporarily lead in situations.

    I know no one leads anyone or themselves really.

    Perhaps until we can make decisions, they are mostly made for us.

    What you believe is whatever you believe.

    An individual can live among any muppet or none.

    Can a muppet live without their herd?

    Have they even considered such?

    The ones who go their own way in this world today have remarkable will.

    Is it best to be fooled or free?

    If we can’t ever prove we are or are not free, does it matter at all what happens?

    If we are free, we are only hurting ourselves denying it.

    If we aren’t free, then nothing matters.

    The end of blind faith is nihilism ironically.

    Lazy cynicism has replaced thoughtful conviction as the mark of an educated worldview.

    Irony lays waste to corruption and hypocrisy.

    They flatter you to keep you watching.

    We rightly have come to distrust religion and politics through irony.

    But what if irony leads to a sinkhole of relativism and disavowal?

    My cannon camera model is called a ‘Rebel!’

    Irony institutionalized is tyranny.

    The rebellious posture of the past has been annexed by the very commercialism it sought to defy.

    Our art today disguises banality with fashionable postmodern aesthetic and irony.

    We enjoy watching our own self destruction.

    Who will dare to cut against the prevailing tone of cynicism and irony, risking “sentimentality,” “ovecredulity” and “softness.”

    Can we have art and logos that redeems and not only criticizes, is sincere and authentic?

    Indeed, no matter how cynical and nihilistic the times, we have always had artists who make work that invokes meaning, hope and mystery. Participation over spectatorship. We must move toward the Glory Hallelujah, toward the possibility of something greater. The best art and word can inspire us and push us closer.

    One attribute of a move toward something greater is to reject the safety of the ironic, remove and risk the possibility of failure.

    So here I come back to faith, it seems to always come back around to a leap of hope.

    The daimon who brushed me with its wings has left me with reverence for the richness of everyday life.

    I believe in my life!

    I see our greatness in hopeful living. Cynicism has a place to rightfully call bullshit.

    They tried to drown the authentic expression of the 60s with commercialized rebellion.

    It is disgusting and putrid in our mouths.

    We are destroying the world to be rid of this drivel.

    We can move from reverence, to reckoning, to redemption.

    Participation is our redemption.

    Do you hear my friends, that’s good news 🗞

    What I have done here with invading Dan’s OMF project was to participate.

    Can’t say I have seen many others do so here or in life authentically and sincerely, which was true or myself too.

    Most have brought their cynical conspiracies and irony, laughing at the fall.

    Hoping it falls so they can be rewarded.

    Insanity.

    Well, I wept and I demanded better for myself of myself, not others.

    This is my project.

    “Skeptics reject sincerity because they worry blind belief can lead to such evils as the Ku Klux Klan and Nazism. They think strong conviction implies vulnerability to emotional rhetoric and lack of critical awareness. But the goal of great art is the same whether one approaches it seriously or dubiously. To make something new, to transcend, one must have an honest relationship with what is: history, context, form, tradition, oneself. Dishonesty is the biggest obstacle to making original, great art. Dishonesty undermines a work’s internal integrity — the only standard by which a work can succeed. If the work becomes a vehicle for one’s ego, personal or political agenda, self-image, desire for fame, adulation, fortune — human as these inclinations may be — the work will be limited accordingly. Even a desire to affirm human dignity and elevate the human spirit can be corrupted by dishonesty in the form of sentimentality.

    Sentimentality, the ostentatious parading of excessive and spurious emotion, is the mark of dishonesty, the inability to feel; the wet eyes of the sentimentalist betray his aversion to experience, his fear of life, his arid heart; and it is always, therefore, the signal of secret and violent inhumanity, the mask of cruelty.”

    Great art and living must be achieved through the integrity of its own internal principles. Irony alone has no principles and no inherent purpose beyond mockery and destruction. The best examples of irony artfully expose lies, yet irony in itself has no aspiration to honesty, or anything else for that matter.

    So, where does art rise above ironic ridicule and aspire to greatness, in terms of challenging convention and elevating the human spirit? Where does Glory Hallelujah meet integrity?

    “[Poetry] forms the quality of the light within which we predicate our hopes and dreams toward survival and change, first made into language, then into idea, then into more tangible action… The farthest horizons of our hopes and fears are cobbled by our poems, carved from the rock experiences of our daily lives.”

    “At one time, irony served to challenge the establishment; now it is the establishment. The art of irony has turned into ironic art. Irony for irony’s sake. A smart aleck making bomb noises in front of a city in ruins. But irony without a purpose enables cynicism. It stops at disavowal and destruction, fearing strong conviction is a mark of simplicity and delusion. But we can remake the world. In poetry, in music, in painting, we can reimagine and plot coordinates into the unknown. We can take an honest look, rework and try again. The work will tell us if it has arrived or not. We have to listen closely. What do we see? What do we hear?”

    I didn’t just fart on Disclosure, I demonstrated a better way, I participated with it.

    I rose to the cynical view of Eschatons and Disclosures with irony, participation and hope grounded in myself and small life.

    Participation over spectatorship.

    I will participate in the rest of my life and I hope you will find a way beyond irony, skepticism and the evil cynicism of conspiracy in your life.

    Let us make our greatest art together.

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