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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    The Global Borders Problem

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    Post by spacemaverick

    Border problems from illegal Migrants all over the world

    We are not the only country whose borders are being compromised. European countries have been accepting migrants for quite some time. There are some countries who defied the European Union and said they would not accept refugees. Spain has migrants that have stormed their border just like we are going through right now. Those migrants are from Africa. Italy has the same problem as well as Greece. We have migrants coming from South America through Mexico.

    Here are the links to various border crossings;



    Africa to Spain



    Europes most fortified border in Africa



    The Muslims in Sweden



    Storming Spains razor wire



    This is a worldwide problem. We cannot help the other countries when our own people who are our citizens are in need and deserve the help from our own Government. We have our own issues with a broken immigration system.

    Some questions we must ask ourselves; Do we leave our borders open for those seeking a better life? Should our government use our tax money to feed and clothe the migrants? We cannot help our own people such as our veterans have served and fought for our freedoms. We have people that are working and only have enough money to put food on the table. Why should we help the migrants when we can’t take care of our own people. We have a crumbling infrastructure, should we take that money we spend on migrants and put it into our infrastructure. The assistance they receive from our government even exceeds the benefits of our own citizens using our taxpayer dollars. Is this right?

    This is a worldwide problem and each nation must deal with its individual borders. Our nation cannot afford to deal with the massive problem of illegal migrants coming into our borders. They cannot be effectively vetted. Some are criminals, some are jihad fighters, pedophiles, killers and etc.... This has become a national security problem and must be dealt with accordingly.

    Next; Who is funding all these caravans and who is coordinating them?


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    Post Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:40 pm by Post Eschaton Punk

    We have no problems.

    Wake up.

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    spacemaverick

    Post Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:54 am by spacemaverick

    http://twitter.com/chapelledebout?lang=en

    Here we have an organization in France backing migrants without papers.

    Sans--papiers 75 also a pro-migrant group in France

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://csp75.wordpress.com/&prev=search

    Here is the other pro-migrant group started in 1996.

    I am seeing a worldwide movement by different groups here. It makes a person wonder if a higher level organization is handling all these different organizations. Maybe the United Nations?
    spacemaverick

    Post Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:07 am by spacemaverick

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://csp75.wordpress.com/&prev=search

    CISPM : International Coalition of Undocumented Immigrants which handles a grouping of collectives of Without Papers and asylum seekers residing in several countries, ie in 2016, in Europe, Belgium, Germany, Spain, France , Italy, Austria, Poland, as well as in Africa, Morocco and Tunisia, but also in the USA in New Haven.

    More about the collective at the above link. Once again it makes a person wonder who is behind all this.

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