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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by 99 Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:36 pm

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    St. Michael the Archangel Invocation
    "St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly hosts, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan, and all the evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls." 
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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:56 pm

    MockTurtle wrote:Joe wants me or Ron to call him?

    Why can't I call anybody?
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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:59 pm

    99 wrote:
    Immaterialism 2 - Page 36 FgCIyHn
    St. Michael the Archangel Invocation
    "St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly hosts, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan, and all the evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls." 

    Thanks.

    Decode? Is this a CathoXritian thing? Where in the rank of Uppermost Unconditionally Loving Beings aka "Good Guys" does he/sheit reside?

    Your image looks like G-U-M-P
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:59 pm

    Alchemical Coincidence wrote:
    MockTurtle wrote:Joe wants me or Ron to call him?

    Why can't I call anybody?
    Why would you want to? 

    You get mixed up with Joe you might spontaneously trip into a portalific dimension of time and space and find yourself mixed up with crooks, loons, alien hybrids, love gurus, psycologists, phylosophers, physicists, alchemists, the occult, mormons, mystics, story tellers, myth makers, magicians, vampires, witches, daimons, gods, Zen masters, dreamers, Jesus/Buddha reincarnates, poets, artists, the Queen bee of the hive or a magical Smelly Goat.

    As the cheshire cat would say, the're all mad there.

    Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
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    Post by dan Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:11 am

    AC,

    You can always call chicken little at 443799seven two oh one.  


    I felt the need to remind the princess........
    The LORD said, "If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake."


    MT,

    Infinite abyss..........

    Or maybe we are surrounded by infinite love.  It might make more sense.  

    Or ask why there is something rather than nothing......  that minimum something must include self awareness...... I am that I am, in other words..... Creation is a logical corollary.  

    Immaterialists suppose that Creation is the dream of I Am.

    This is all very straight forward.  It’s a no brainer.   It’s certainly not rocket science...... is it, sports fans?  

    Parts of the dream are measurable and objectifiable. Scientists pick up some of those pieces, and construct pretty pictures. They just leave the main ingredient out of their picture. The MoAPS (mother of all paradigm shifts) already has a very large foot in that door.



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    Post by 99 Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:08 am

    AC,
    Too many are in complete denial about the powers of darkness and the kingdom of darkness that is all around us... always.  But in Ephesians 6:12  
    it says: 
    "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."

    Spiritual warfare is real and in every Christians mind, there's an awareness of the fact that there's a battle going on for their soul. If you're not engaging in this battle through prayer and trying to emulate Christ to the best of your ability, then you may not realize the jeopardy your soul is in. For this reason, Catholics pray the St. Michael prayer everyday because they know that Satan will do everything he can to drag us down. They know that the kingdom of darkness is real. 

    As for saying the St. Michael Prayer, because we live such busy lives, there are times when we need to do something to help us focus on the prayer as we are reciting it. Drawing out St. Michael's sigil is just one way amongst many to switch into prayer mode and focus on the invocation of St. Michael to invite him into our lives and protect us from Satan and his evil principalities.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:33 am

    99, 

    If you give the devil advanced notice of your intentions your less likely to outwit him/her.

    Let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth.
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    Post by 99 Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:38 am

    You apparently underestimate the powers of Satan Mockturtle. He already knows what your intentions are even before you know it yourself. 

    No one can "outwit" Satan, unless they have a helping hand.... through Christ.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:29 am

    He knows our intentions before we know them ourselves?

    Now that's one hell of a trick.

    I wonder if the devil has a portal?

    There was once a woodcutter working in a clearing in a forest, when he saw a strange animal peeking at him from behind a bush. Thinking to have this animal for dinner, he rushed at it with his ax. The animal laughed from the opposite side of the clearing because this animal has the power to read thoughts.


    Therefore, wherever the woodsman intended to go, the animal read his thought first. So the animal began to talk and mocked him and said you think I’m going to be at this place next. The woodsman naturally thought when I see him next, I’ll go to the opposite side of the clearing.


    So this went on until the woodsman got absolutely furious!


    He returned to chopping the wood. The animal laughed and said, “So you’ve given up.”


    Just at that moment, he struck the ax against the tree, the head of the ax flew off and struck the animal dead.
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    Post by 99 Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:31 am

    MT, do you think that by blowing up the font like that for that amusing yet innocuous little fable of yours and the lesson embedded in it (if there is any lesson in it, for that matter) is going to somehow strengthen and support your side of the argument more that Satan does NOT know what our intentions are before we know it ourselves and that we can outwit him on our own merits without divine intervention and help via Christ? Lol, I think not. 

    Also, blowing up your font like that in a forum venue is a form of bullying and I don't like being bullied. Totally inappropriate and uncalled for.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:00 am

    Blowing up what font?

    Strengthen what argument?

    I'm just wondering how someone could know someone else's thoughts before they even have the thoughts.

    Oh, that font.

    Just a copy paste thing.

    I didn't intentionally blow up any font.

    The devil may be playing tricks on you.

    The devil can be quite the reactionary sometimes.

    You just have to look him/her in the eyes and make a funny face. Making the devil laugh is one way to outwit him/her.
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    Post by 99 Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:09 am

    "Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes." Ephesians 6:11

    Without doing that, you don't stand a chance at defeating him.

    Ask Dan to help you as he is The Spirit of Truth.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:48 am

    If you want to put on the full armor of God, first you must know where hidden armory is.

    If you have been paying attention to Dan and the SWH and the BPWH, you have a cheat sheet already.
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    Post by 99 Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:58 am

    The Hidden Amory? Why don't you tell us about that MT.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:07 pm

    Like I said, the BPWH and the SWH might be clues.

    I've also heard there is a Dragon Scroll protected by a flabby panda.

    I was talking to Dan the other day about the Elder Scrolls.

    Just found out they are also called the Dragon Scrolls.

    Personally though, I'm only familiar with the one secured above Moon Pool.

    They may be related in some way though.

    I would also note that Mock Turtles are born with natural armor.
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    Post by 99 Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:57 pm

    I asked: The Hidden Armory? Why don't you tell us about that MT.


    MT's response: "Like I said, the BPWH and the SWH might be clues."


    This after he pompously scolded me by saying "If you have been paying attention to Dan and the SWH and the BPWH, you have a cheat sheet already."
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    Unless you're eating a high fiber diet MT, my tricorder readings detect a drifting cloud of ionized, sentient gas, which indicates to me, based on your totally anticipated answer to my question, that you don't know anything about The Hidden Armory. lol
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:24 pm

    The armory that can be spoken of is not the eternal armory.
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    Post by 99 Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:33 pm

    MT, maybe it's time for you to check-in with your parole officer?

    Or at least get back on your meds, for g-d's sakes! Sheesh!

    Ask Alice, maybe she'll know what to do as every comment you make on this is digging the hole you're already in, even deeper. lol


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    Post by U Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:37 pm

    Oof 99 is on a rampage today, I'm loving it, lol!

    SlothTurtle are these Elder Scrolls you refer to related to the videogame franchise of the same name?
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    Post by dan Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:05 pm

    99 and Akbar,

    I’ve already forgotten how I heard of the elder scroll.  Besides being referred to in a video game, it is associated with one of the angels of the Mormon Church, and only apocryphallly.  I only found one oblique reference.  

    I don’t recall any particular association with the BPWH. Ackbar will have to remind me.

    Aliyah is expecting an Armageddon like die back in conjunction with or leading up to Disclosure.



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    Post by Cuan Scott Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:21 pm

    [quote="MockTurtle"]
    Alchemical Coincidence wrote:
    MockTurtle wrote:Joe wants me or Ron to call him?


    As the cheshire cat would say, the're all mad there.


    Thanks MT

    However, some could say that any species or group who 'collectively' kill in excess of 120 billion sentient lives each year 'for food', trash Eden and are too readily willing to kill each other could also fall into the definition of being mad.

    Perhaps taking a chance with those you mention may be the safer ground, especially, if there is a Smelly Goat, Chicken Little, MockTurtles and the like.

    I believe Carl Sagan said it beautifully when he said any species "at war with itself is doomed"
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    Post by Cuan Scott Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:26 pm

    MockTurtle wrote:If you want to put on the full armor of God, first you must know where hidden armory is.

    If you have been paying attention to Dan and the SWH and the BPWH, you have a cheat sheet already.

    MT,

    Does the armory of which you doth speak, occupy the same place as that of the Native People's 'two wolves'?
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:33 pm

    CS,

    It's in the feed maybe

    There is a story about feeding wolves. Most people think you have to feed one or the other.

    Maybe there is a third option
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    Post by Cuan Scott Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:44 pm

    Thank you MT

    I appreciate your wisdom and guidance.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:08 pm

    Well Dan, the association with the SWH is that when the Panda finally obtains the Dragon Scroll and opens it up, he finds there is nothing written on it. There is only a thin reflective gold flaked surface.

    https://youtu.be/SFDAqYrrCGc

    CS,

    My pleasure.

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