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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:25 am

    First topic message reminder :

    (‘first topic message reminder.......’)

    Once again, I attempt to bring the conversation back to Personalism......

    Disclosure is simply going to underscore the infinite worth and potential of every sapient creature, ie, person.  Anything other than that is simply false.
    ...........


    (Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread......

    https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )



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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:29 am

    Dan,

    What do you make of Edgar Mitchell's theory of phase conjugate holographic processing?

    http://journalofcosmology.com/Consciousness149.html
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    Post by dan Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:37 am

    PF,

    Edgar had his heart in the right place, he just wasn’t about to bite the hand that fed him...... NASA.  

    Me....... I’m biting the hand that fed me..... just to wake it up..... and let it know that the cheese has been moved....... friendly guy that I am.  

    Yes, the Moon landing was a holograph..... and so is everything else.  

    We are the intelligent pixels in this living hologram.   If we look far enough out into space, we just see the back of our own head..... E8xE8 ~ F4.

    This is what’s called the small world hypothesis (SWH).

    There is to be a ‘private’ announcement this weekend..... about the pond...... joe&kevin. I told buddy that joe has the Valley disease..... cosmic Asperger’s. You need cosmic eunuchs to guard the crown jewels, after all.


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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:54 am

    dan wrote:PF,

    Edgar had his heart in the right place, he just wasn’t about to bite the hand that fed him...... NASA.  

    Me....... I’m biting the hand that fed me..... just to wake it up..... and let it know that the cheese has been moved....... friendly guy that I am.  

    Yes, the Moon landing was a holograph..... and so is everything else.  

    We are the intelligent pixels in this living hologram.   If we look far enough out into space, we just see the back of our own head.  



    (cont.......)

    Dan, there's nothing in that article about NASA. He proposes a holographic universe model of consciousness whereby data is stored in the zero point field as quantum holograms; that all structural matter organized into singular objects resonates by phase conjugate EM emissions between atoms within the object and outward, and that living systems attenuate these as part of quantum information processing in cells and brains - and further, the more coherent that processing the more capable an organism in discerning and modeling physical reality. He proposes a nonlocal explanation for ESP and other PSI effects. And proposes it a universal among physical entities, earthlings or otherwise.

    I mean, he could be wrong. Probably is. But it's interesting, not stupid. Seems internally consistent. And has the benefit of being falsifiable and testable. Along with perhaps explaining some of the woo-woo stuff.


    EDIT: for anyone wondering WTF phase conjugation is, watch this:



    And read this:

    http://cns-alumni.bu.edu/~slehar/PhaseConjugate/PhaseConjugate.html
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    Post by whoknows Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:44 am

    dan wrote:
    There is to be a ‘private’ announcement this weekend.....

    LOL really, OK, so now that you told us that are you going to tell us what the announcement was first chance you get?

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    Post by dan Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:54 am

    I get it, PF,

    I’m not critiquing the hologram.   I’m critiquing the universe.  

    The universe belongs to NASA&co.  The small world belongs to the j-man&co.  It’s mainly about the separation clause.  That’s the narrow path we’re treading.  

    Which are you rooting for, PF ...... big or small?

    I was asked to contact Bruce Lawlor on behalf of the Princess, but was forbidden to say anything about you know what. I said that was a dumb request...... cold call, etc.  Turned out it was bruce who wanted the meeting.  There was a bush connection...... stand your ground..... carefully.  

    I have been given a list of principals with the pond&co. A little bit strange.  They are being standoffish, with respect to the public.  

    I think someone wanted to see if bruce or I was cheating. I don’t think so.


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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:12 am

    dan wrote:

    Which are you rooting for, PF ...... big or small?

    (cont.....)

    What difference would that make? lol

    As for disclosure, I'm holding my breath!

    No. Wait. I'm not.
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    Post by dan Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:19 am

    It makes every difference in the world.  

    Are you really this clueless?  If so, you’re probably not cheating.  smelly cheats.  I think he’d better cut it out...... him and osho.

    And definitely don’t hold your breath, PF.  The announcement was made millennia ago, and some folks are still holding their breath.

    Yes, we’ve been living on fumes, all this time.


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    Post by whoknows Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:22 am

    dan wrote:A little bit strange.

    LOL their being, strange, is an affectation they seem to be trying to excel at. Should call the "wanabe mystic company by the pond."

    The same old shtick over and over loses it's mystic after a while.
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    Post by dan Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:26 am

    When you shout fire in a crowded theater..... it helps to have a little practice.  

    Do you think we’ve had enough?

    Oh, I forgot...... you and smelly are birds of a feather, now.

    So young and soooooo sophisticated.......
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    Post by whoknows Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:29 am

    If there is a reveal to be had, let it be.
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:29 am

    dan wrote:It makes every difference in the world.

    Are you really this clueless? \ 

    Oh yes. I'm really that clueless. Probably more so.

    I told you before. I've mad many psychic experiences personally. And I saw a flying saucer once. That's as much as I know.
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    Post by 99 Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:30 am

    Could anyone here give some clarification, in plain English, on what Dan's saying wrt to what's going on now at the pond?

    For example:
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    I was asked to contact Bruce Lawlor on behalf of the Princess, but was forbidden to say anything about you know what.

    It's the "about you know what" part. Anyone here know what he's referring to?


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    Post by AtomicBrando Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:31 am

    Dan, sorry, smelly was just playing around.

    The energy is moving strongly, he gets caught up in its whirlwind.

    I’ll be the serious muppet.

    I have nothing to say.

    I really don’t care what anyone does.

    No conflicts.

    No problems.

    Wk, if you were in the mystic, you couldn’t be bored.

    All words are shit though and we are ultimately fertilizer, so I can’t be too seriouz, I will pretend.

    Have fun all.



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    Post by whoknows Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:32 am

    LOL never said i was bored just that others bored me.... Still Love ya though
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    Post by dan Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:34 am

    PF and wk,

    So, both of you are really that clueless about the j-man.......

    Why doesn’t someone else try to help out 99.

    Foot was suggesting I might need 99 to protect me from smelly.

    You’d better be watching your step, smelly.


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    Post by whoknows Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:35 am

    Not me man, I'm a fool for love. If that's clueless in your mind, let it be so.


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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:37 am

    dan wrote:PF and wk,

    So, both of you are really that clueless about the j-man.......

    Is that J-ROD?
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    Post by AtomicBrando Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:38 am

    The Dude Abidez...love it all.

    I’ll do as I like Dan.

    As alwayz in all wayz.

    All our words are poop.

    Smelly doesn’t need to smell with all this poop here.


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    Post by dan Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:40 am

    J-ROD......  wow, that’s a good one.  

    Someone please help PF.......!


    99,

    The ‘you know what’ meant anything to do with OMF.  But now I’ve stood my ground with smelly, so that would be ok.


    ......sorry..... otl......


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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:42 am

    dan wrote:J-ROD......  wow, that’s a good one.  

    Someone please help PF.......!  

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    Post by whoknows Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:46 am

    99 wrote:It's the "about you know what" part. Anyone here know what he's referring to?

    We've been watching this for years now 99, and I have to say a lot of what Dan says is thought worthy. But as far as the RA&D show goes, it seems to lack any, cohesion?
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    Post by AtomicBrando Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:48 am

    Lacks cohesion, bahahaha, of course!!!!
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    Post by 99 Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:49 am

    Right, it's entertaining but the narrative is all over the place. I agree. Wink
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    Post by AtomicBrando Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:50 am

    Hmmm, wonder who on earth has it all together, kiss me fools...

    Fill me with your poison...

    You are an alien...
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    Post by whoknows Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:53 am

    slurp slurp slurp... Sound of aliens eating ab brains.

    Ahhh burp! Oh squeeze me, I musta thought I was at the beach


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