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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by hobbit Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:41 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Dan,

    I had no previous knowledge of, or intent to achieve that which occurred.

    I climbed on top of a portal chamber (hence My interest in anything portal related) to photograph a crop circle adjacent....
    When this reality went and I tripped across into the most fabulous none physical dimension of indescribeable Mandelbrot scene with sounds not of this world.
    My physical suddenly began to be upset as I didn't exist, or the earth below.
    I was still wondering and asking who are You to my physical entity when a third Me began talking and telling me to be calm and repeat what ever it told Me, which was it was Me from 5D.

    I had lots explained, but can only recall that which I repeated .
    All of this time My physical entity was really quite funny telling the other two to shut up and it wanted to be back in 3D.

    My higher self ( in 5d) is that called father.
    My 3D self ( physical) is Earth to be.
    My 4D self is ( consciousness) spirit, as such.

    I didn't want to return , the love is immense.

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    Post by dan Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:45 am

    hobbit,

    If you are going to make another stupid remark, like the one you just made on the previous page, you are going to be asked to leave this section of the forum.
    ...........

    This warning to hobbit was directed to his post which appears, presently, as the last post on the previous page.  The topic reminder post, above, and at the top of each page, I have no control over.  
    ...........


    Bubbles,

    The way I started to restore my faith in the world was by learning about the Anthropic/design Principle. Most folks tend to shrug it off, often by turning to the Multiverse concept. If you don’t go that route, you might begin to wonder about creation.




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    Post by hobbit Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:10 am

    dan wrote:hobbit,

    If you are going to make another stupid remark, like the one you just made on the previous page, you are going to be invited to leave this section of the forum.
    ...........

    This warning to hobbit was directed to his post which appears, presently, as the last post on the previous page.  The topic reminder post, above, and at the top of each page, I have no control over.  



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    Please describe what is "stupid" about asking for an image of God?????
    You posted that individuals tried to exit the womb looking like god

    I found Your post STUPID.

    It appears as though if anyone challenges You , Your immediaet reaction is to threaten removal of that poster.

    hobbit

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    Post by dan Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:19 pm

    hobbit,

    If you found my post stupid, why are you still here?

    More accurately, I should say that I found your post offensively flippant.  


    I’m guessing that hobbit may decide the best course is to unfriend me, at least until he’s had a chance to ask his question of google.  

    I must be on a roll.  AP has also temporarily unfriended me.  I just ask too many questions.  

    Basically, the small world is a bitter pill to swallow for us moderns.  It took me five years to get up the courage.  After that, it has been pretty smooth sailing.  Everything began to fall into place.  

    Once you’ve tried it, you’re not going to want to go back.  Make no mistake, that first step is a big one. But with each additional crosser, the passage will gradually become easier.  Because of that initial difficulty, Disclosure will necessarily remain word of mouth, for the foreseeable future.  


    6:40.........

    So what’s going to happen out at the mountain?  

    Folks are confused.  There has been considerable talk, of late, about the device, which would be the only new item to disclose.  

    Why is the device coming to the mountain?  Why aren’t we bringing the mountain to the lake?  

    It’s supposed to be a strategy meeting.  

    You know my thinking....... I can be pretty devious.  I’m suggesting that the device is to serve as a cover, for the actual disclosure.  The device is just meant to accelerate acclimation, i.e. WoM/MoAPS.  


    8..........

    Hmmm.........  

    The confusion about the meeting at the mountain is not going away.  It only gets worse.  


    I used to talk about the bait and switch strategy.  Maybe we should talk about it again......

    The device is the bait...... I’m the switch.  Imagine how angry folks are gonna be, when they find they are just being baited with the shiny new machine, and they end up being offered a bedraggled little chicken.  

    I would not want to be left in town, holding that bag.  No siree.  

    There will be more rumors about the machine at the lake.  Folks are going to come sniffing around.  They might even sniff around OM.   They’ll have their eyes on the prize, and this bedraggled little chicken keeps blocking the way.  They’ll just wring it’s scrawny little neck.  End of story.  

    How else is this subterfuge going to work out? Give me the plot spoiler. Kevin already has the movie trailer in his pocket.



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    Post by Bubbles! Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:19 pm

    Dan!

    Can you give an opinion on the truth vs comfort issue? More specifically, is the goal of better understanding human history and the deep nature of reality worth achieving at the cost of our comfort?
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    Post by dan Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:25 pm

    Bubbles,  

    Comfort is relative.  Truth is not.  

    Truth is love.  Love is truth.  

    Love’s out to get you, Bubbles...... ready or not.

    Many describe love as a burning.  

    Are you ready to burn, Bubbles?  


    Larry F mentioned Anthposophy to me.  It contains a few elements of the BPWH.  Otherwise, it is impersonal and infinite.  

    On further examination, Anthroposophy is anthrpocentric.  I see no mention of geocentricity.  

    Anthroposophy derives it’s cosmology from theosophy, which is decidedly not geocentric.  Earthlings are well down on the cosmic totem pole.

    When I asked about Christocentricity, Larry laughed.  


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    Post by Bubbles! Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:42 pm

    Dr. Puthoff and most of his colleagues are materialists. You on the other hand are self-purportedly an immaterialist. Could it be that dual-aspect monism is what we’re really heading towards?
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    Post by hobbit Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:12 am

    dan wrote:hobbit,

    If you found my post stupid, why are you still here?

    More accurately, I should say that I found your post offensively flippant.  


    I’m guessing that hobbit may decide the best course is to unfriend me, at least until he’s had a chance to ask his question of google.  

    I must be on a roll.  AP has also temporarily unfriended me.  I just ask too many questions.  

    Basically, the small world is a bitter pill to swallow for us moderns.  It took me five years to get up the courage.  After that, it has been pretty smooth sailing.  Everything began to fall into place.  

    Once you’ve tried it, you’re not going to want to go back.  Make no mistake, that first step is a big one. But with each additional crosser, the passage will gradually become easier.  Because of that initial difficulty, Disclosure will necessarily remain word of mouth, for the foreseeable future.  


    6:40.........

    So what’s going to happen out at the mountain?  

    Folks are confused.  There has been considerable talk, of late, about the device, which would be the only new item to disclose.  

    Why is the device coming to the mountain?  Why aren’t we bringing the mountain to the lake?  

    It’s supposed to be a strategy meeting.  

    You know my thinking....... I can be pretty devious.  I’m suggesting that the device is to serve as a cover, for the actual disclosure.  The device is just meant to accelerate acclimation, i.e. WoM/MoAPS.  


    8..........

    Hmmm.........  

    The confusion about the meeting at the mountain is not going away.  It only gets worse.  


    I used to talk about the bait and switch strategy.  Maybe we should talk about it again......

    The device is the bait...... I’m the switch.  Imagine how angry folks are gonna be, when they find they are just being baited with the shiny new machine, and they end up being offered a bedraggled little chicken.  

    I would not want to be left in town, holding that bag.  No siree.  

    There will be more rumors about the machine at the lake.  Folks are going to come sniffing around.  They might even sniff around OM.   They’ll have their eyes on the prize, and this bedraggled little chicken keeps blocking the way.  They’ll just wring it’s scrawny little neck.  End of story.  

    How else is this subterfuge going to work out?  Give me the plot spoiler.  Kevin already has the movie trailer in his pocket.



    (cont.........)

    Why should I back down in the face of a dictator?

    That is how You are reacting, as a dictator, all I asked was if you had a picture in reply to Your statement that humans could be formed in the image of god.

    If Your going to make statements of such, then an image of this non existent god surely needs to be seen?


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    Post by hobbit Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:20 am

    Any device that demonstrates that there is no force called gravity is disclosure
    https://www.space.com/40375-super-earth-exoplanets-hard-aliens-launch.html?utm_source=sdc-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20180423-sdc
    it is this Neanderthal thinking about time/gravity that needs eradicating.

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    Post by dan Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:13 am

    hobbit,

    You are the image of God. You are an idiot. God is not.

    The immaterial you is an image of the material God.

    Gravity is real, it’s up your woz.


    Bubbles,

    Dual aspect monism.........?

    I believe in tri-aspect monism...... mother, son and the holy spirit.

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    Post by Z Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:45 am

    Bubbles
    I'll make clear what others won't...
    DONT LOSE FAITH!!
    THE VISITORS are real ....
    & God is real...
    Just like our planet has many glorious diverse species so does our universe. They are NOT Satanic...or evil...just different...but we are ALL brothers & sisters in GOD's "holographic" creation...
    Despite Dan's protests to the contrary... they only ADD TO GOD's glory....plus some are "angels", which should make us ALL happy...

    Hey download Russell Targs Psychic Trainer.. I just did! .. it's fun!




    Also wished for & saw angel/light orb & caught on video...it's now MUFON CASE #91546
    https://youtu.be/NK-pD0dhR_0

    Anyway ... i'm involved in a very special peoples disclosure project ....we are going to succeed with Dan's help .....
    power to the people

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    Post by Sign Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:10 am



    Well said AP. Don't agree with all But that is my Problem. Very Happy


    You will have to keep me informed as to how things are going with the peoples disclosure project.



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    Post by Sign Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:14 am



    This is for All Here Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


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    Post by Z Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:22 am

    Don't worry SIGNMAN....

    It's all will be transparent and will be LIVESTREAMED!!!!

    The BIG LOVE is coming!!!

    I'll be back in couple weeks...
    MUCH TO DO!!!

    Love each other !

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    Post by GSB/SSR Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:02 am

    Immaterialism

    1. The doctrine that there is no material world, but that all things exist only in and for minds.
    2. The doctrine that only immaterial substances or spiritual beings exist.


    The material world is therefore a highly concentrated (denser, more stable) form of the above immaterial substance. Max Tegmark identifies that substance as isomorphic to mathematics (the Mathematical Universe Hypothesis (MUH) that our physical world is an abstract mathematical structure).

    This implies mathematics as the representation of a phase transition from the mental state (conceptual) world realm (laws of physics) to the material world realm, one of three Platonic worlds that project onto each other (Penrose). We know information requires representation therefore even immaterialism must have a deeper level of representation in the above mentioned spiritual substance, otherwise there would be no identifiable 'being' or 'mind' in an immaterial world.

    https://astudentforever.wordpress.com/2015/03/13/roger-penroses-three-worlds-and-three-deep-mysteries-theory/








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    So why was my most recent post deleted? Was there a policy violation or something?
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:51 am

    dd,

    Don’t look at me, I just work here.


    Gary,

    Thanks for reminding us of Roger.  I should refer to his three worlds more often.  

    And thanks again for Larry referencing Rudolf S.  

    Rudolf was a personalist at heart.  He just didn’t want to go again the Copernicans.  Google esoteric cosmology.  It’s a mashup of Plotinus and Copernicus.


    11:20(gmt+4).......

    Yes, matter is a condensation of our collective unconscious. All we have to do is add personalism.


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    Desertdweller, just repost it. Wasn't me though who deleted it.
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    Post by 99 Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:43 am

    Dan, you seem to be in some agreement with Steiner on Lucifer.
    You also said something here about Princess being an incarnation of Lucifer.

    Could you explain all of that again?

    I'm a long time fan of Steiner's material and over the years I've  seen that a lot of your esoteric views seem to be from Anthroposophy.

    But I don't agree with all of Steiners material though, especially his views on Lucifer.
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    Post by hobbit Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:00 am

    If another post is sent whilst You are writing Yours , and You press send post You have to check by scrolling up the page a bit as You can't see the notice telling You that another post was sent and yours won't then to sent.
    hobbit the idiot
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:06 am

    99,

    Yes, I have been neglecting Rudolf Steiner. I even realize that Owen Barfield was a student of Steiner’s. This is a real breakthrough. This is why Steiner broke with Blavatsky. She was anti Christian. I don’t think Larry understood this about Rudolf.


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    Dan, be nice to hobbits.
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    Post by 99 Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:46 am

    desertdweller wrote:Dan,

    Did I just gather that Lucifer is not that bad of a guy, and that Aliyah is a supposed incarnation of Lucifer?  ... And that the resurrection of Christ was a foreshadow/first fruits of her portal work?  

    ...Huh?!

    Please explain if I'm missing something here.

    Dan, as far as I know, you never answered desertdweller's above questions. Are his tentative conclusions right on that? Just wondering.
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    Post by hobbit Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:31 am

    dan wrote:hobbit,

    You are the image of God.  You are an idiot.  God is not.  

    The immaterial you is an image of the material God.  

    Gravity is real, it’s up your woz.  


    Bubbles,

    Dual aspect monism.........?  

    I believe in tri-aspect monism...... mother, son and the holy spirit.  

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    You may be correct?
    I just wrote a long reply and didn't check if another post had been sent, thus mine went into the aether, what an idiot?

    My immaterial is as leadbeater tried to show with ANU, as are all humans.

    The method of ANU spinning into the heart centre of itself is what creates that consequence called gravity.

    As it is all about fields within fields add infernitum.
    The overall ANU field been what You term as god, I don't.


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    Post by Bubbles! Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:20 pm

    Dan, much like AP himself, I’m afraid of individuals who engage in active remote viewing. Knowing that the Greys can easily read me was enough for me to craft a variety of tinfoil hats for both my kitties and I. I hope I can take them off by next year.

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