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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:19 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, I'm slowly backing away. You guys have fun. Until next time, don't let the aliens or black op fascists get you.

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    Simply, there is no seeker. 
    There is nothing to attain. 
    No such thing as enlightenment. 
    Let's stop all this silliness.

    We are lost in a hypnotic dream of separation. 

    Searching for something only illustrates ignorance of reality.

    Refining the mind seems like a good use of time. 

    We are just dreamseekers following dreamteaching. 

    There is no understanding oneness, there is just being in it.

    This is all already known.

    We just are remembering.

    That includes all of your drama too Dan. 

    We will have no impact unless love is involved. 

    I know, I'm no help and a big distraction.

    That is half right, we are all so very distracted.

    Love is all that is moving.

    As you were.


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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:48 am

    Harsh?

    Na, I'm just done messing around.

    I'll call it like I see it.

    If anything sticks, good for you.

    If it doesn't, it wasn't for you.
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:03 pm

    I've been waiting forty years to say these words, Eric......

    If the system ain't broke, don't try to fix it.  Evidently, Eric, you think that the system is broke.  It ain't.  You just have to figure out how it is working.  Yes, Eric, in order to see it, you have to believe.  Ye of little faith.  

    I was about to say that the speech was so apropos that MJ12 must have written it.  But then I heard that it was the same speech that Donald has been giving all along.  

    Maybe Donald is smarter than he looks.  Maybe we're already a team.  I was appropriately slow on the uptake.  I'm waiting for him to make a false move..... then we'll see, won't we.  

    Had l thought about it, I would have put America first, under God.  Yes, we are God's chosen country.  When I last thought about countries, I figured that China would have been the most ripe for a spiritual revolution.  We were much too comfortable/complacent.  That was then.  This is now.  



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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:52 pm

    Nope, wrong again.

    Things are as they should be.

    Whatever is done should have been done.

    I'm not gonna get into it again and distract you.

    We are not in control.

    Whatever I do was the experience as it is for you.

    You really need to get this stuff straight.
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:13 pm

    We are not in control......?

    If we are not in control, then who is?


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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:29 pm

    Well now.

    That is the question isn't it.

    No one.

    Everyone.

    Autopilot.

    An AI up in the sky.

    How could you trust a pod?

    How do you measure its effects?

    Yeah, you're in control.

    Control is an illusion.

    What do you control?

    You can't even control yourself.

    Control is not required.

    Man, I thought you knew all this.
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:04 pm

    Yes, Eric, you do have a point..... the best possible world is necessarily on auto pilot.  That is true from a superficial, one dimensional view of time.  But time has other dimensions.  

    The is also a 'logical' dimension to time.  That is the playground of the spirit.  It is also the artistic/aesthetic dimension.  I think you know about that.  Does that mean that you have already drawn your best possible picture?  I hope not, not in the sense of free will.  

    But isn't your artistic freedom an illusion?

    No. When creating art you reside in another dimension of time.


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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:22 pm

    Time is imaginary.

    Details don't matter.

    It's just the stretched out now.

    Tell them what it will be like when there is no more veil.

    I don't exactly know what it looks like for one being to wake up consciously in us corporately. Maybe the UTs skipped that part.

    I think we evolved to this state with mind and ego required, but do we fully integrate them with heart or transcend them now?

    I'm not sure what the future of mind and ego are.

    All religions are misleading.

    And the Esoteric is there, but is fractured, and missing parts you can only fill in if you let go and die now.

    If I wanted the answer I could find one, but I don't care or have any questions.

    No one knows probably.

    And if there are interdimensional and advanced beings, they are part of us too and us them.

    I mean, are we ready to have all these people wake up?

    That part is covered.

    Please God, it's me. I'm doing the best I can. Appreciate any help. We are winging it here.

    And Dan thinks I have no faith.

    See how much Dan doesn't know.

    I don't want to shake your trust in Dan, but no one trust anyone right now.

    Anything is possible.

    Sham out.


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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:23 pm

    I am living the best possible world now and drawing it as I go.

    So I for one know you are right about the BPW.
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    If the BPW gets even better, whoa.

    This gonna be something.

    If there is an event, I can't wait.

    But my heart tells me the reason there is no control, is this process is natural. It was programmed. My working theory.

    Do you guys build clouds and know how to write GOOD Object oriented code? Well, that's my job. I build clouds and connect things. I'm a builder. An engineer. Because God is an engineer.

    At least in spirit, but It is not a thing as we know.

    It's an Awareness.

    Is that Awareness here now?

    Of course it is.

    So, not play games, but there is no control.

    There is only Awareness.

    This is all I have represented from the beginning of our conversation.

    The Awareness moved me and in me and now I'm
    connected to you. You think that's lucky Wink

    I'm a template.

    Most of you would hate living the way I do because the world makes it impossible. You can't know your next step.

    It's not impossible.

    It's the only Way.

    I'm going to keep my focus and know we are moving into this Awareness all by our lonesomes.

    I met a new Shaman. So my path unfolds.

    I have no control.

    I have no plan.

    Good luck with your plans Wink

    I feel alone out here.

    But I'm so not.

    I have a huge team behind me.

    Just huge.

    I'm just a bird sitting on a branch tweeting.

    Sham way way out there.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:49 pm

    When the art takes you away, because it does when done deeply, you bring things back. Gifts. Traps? No, not traps. The Universe loves us.

    So, I encourage everyone to find a way to get out of mind, so they can get a clue.

    It isn't the mind that will lead people over the threshold.

    It's not some magic mind formulae that unlocks you.

    Only living from the heart gets you to it.

    It's so simple to me.

    Is is not that simple Dan?

    "Attention is Awareness directed towards an object. Divested of the object, attention, finding nothing to grasp, quivers for a moment, flows back to its source, and stands revealed as pure Awareness."

    So, you have directed your attention to Ron, the Princess, this pod thing. Which I am coming to very much dislike for some reason.

    What happens if you drop your attention now?
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    I have been chatting with Dan via radiowave today.

    Well, something's up. Why I have been chatty the last day. The energy is moving. The tension for me has been resolved. Perhaps this resonates with someone below. Doesn't matter. I heard it and receive it for all of us.

    Peace.

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    This day is the greatest chance in my lifetime that we could finally find peace together. I see it as clear as the Sun.

    "The logical mind runs away from drowning.
    Lovers except drowning
    in the sea as their destiny.
    The logical mind finds consolation
    in reaching a level of comfort in life.
    Lovers are focused beyond their own comfort."

    --Rumi

    That silly Sufi Rumi. I love him so.

    I have not walked in your shoes. I have no faith. I have no religion. I have no belief. I have been stripped of everything I am and had and all I am now is what is left. We all can relate to that stripping. Because all of us will have everything given...taken. But I was allowed one hope. One, sweet beautiful
    Hope that I have transmuted into Peace.

    My greatest action to date Wink

    What was my hope? That we are a part of and loved by something greater than ourselves.

    It is and was my last hope and silly superstition.

    Today, I let that hope go and as soon as I did, something flew out of my heart.

    Peace.

    Something came in too. If that can come from no hope, imagine what the light brings! I don't understand it. I don't have to. Neither do you.

    There is a mighty spirit moving today. I don't understand it. I said that, right? I am swept up in it. I feel it. You can turn your eyes, but I want you to know how much I love you. How much you are loved. And this man Trump, as scary as he seems to the gays and women and people of color, is here as a portent of a coming dawn. You may not see it now. No problem. I see it for you. Some do. A great resolution is at hand.

    If I may humbly submit, in your darkest hour, let your hope go into that black hole in your center. This is your chance for the greatest internal growth ever. Actually, it's not growing. It is just realizing you do not need to turn to some unknown inner experience, you are already peace there inside. You just have to learn to stay inside. You are not changing.

    This is for all of us.

    I know why I had to be alone and naked and say all this to no one listening. This is simply who I am. I am assured I am heard and the light does its work moving in shadow and the shadow makes the dynamo go.

    My God the peace.

    Sham out.
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:45 pm

    From Sham the Shaman (Eric).....
    I wish I could share this moment with you, so I'm doing it over radio wave. I was given a portent today, an acknowledgement, a wink, a pat on the back. An issue that has absorbed a lot of energy is about to resolve itself. It has been too difficult to understand alone. Do not hold onto it I am advised. I felt this very strongly naturally today. I am 45 now, just turned. Trump is the 45th president. My middle name is John as is His. We are opposites, but make a dynamo. The resolution is based on no individual merit so no one person may claim divine providence. It is grace from the Great Beyond and my job is to allow it to happen, to simply bear witness to the resolution. Even if I have no idea how the process is working, I have been assured it is working. While letting go, you may not even notice the resolution occurs until after the fact I'm told. Then the issue that was, will instantly cease to be. I have the help now of the Great Beyond to be allowed to experience this. I let go of what I can and cannot be. I meant meant o see this. It is my nature to shine the light which I do alone and nakedly now. I let go what I think I know and need. The Great Beyond promises to take us through the great waves together, and then the sea becomes calm and serene under the light. The Divine has the impossible covered Wink Hehe. We can let the Great powers sort it all out. Breath a breathe of thanks for the help. The Sun will rise. As Day follows Night. This is a sensible path no matter how big the problem. I am enjoying this sweet moment of peace. Why despair during the long night when we know every moment, dawn is ever closer to breaking again. My hope then is not totally extinguished or foolish, I was allowed to hold this one hope as wisdom.
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    Post by dan Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:36 am

    I was very fortunate to be allowed to tag along with Maggie, Throop and their friends.  Debbie went on a PP bus with her niece and Joey, all the way to DC.  

    So let me tell you a tale...... on the way to Canterbury...... this tale will be told on future such journeys.  

    It is the tale of a Princess, a Footmann, a Scribe and a Shaman..... going to visit King Arthur and Queen Melania in their castle. Well, you will not object if I mix the best possible number of metaphors..... King Arthur has the glass slipper and the Footmann brings the Princess.  The Footmann also brings the Scribe, just to record the festive occasion.  And, for good measure, the Scribe brings the Shaman.

    Yes, it is a magic slipper... not unlike Aladdin's lamp, as long as the Princess is wearing it.  So there we are, in the Castle.  The King has made a wish, and is about to slip the slipper on the foot of the Princess.  Just for the record, I interrupt to ask the King what he is wishing for.  He states that, for starters, he wants to build a Casino addition to Shangri-La.  Hmmm.......  then what?  Well, he'll let us know when he sees how the Casino turns out.  

    But, you see, I have a bit of magic of my own..... a scrying stone.  I can scry angels playing craps.  I doesn't quite look right.  But how do I warn the King?  I'm just a reporter, especially in the eyes of the King.  

    Scrying stone....... how about Sham?  The Shaman (sometimes) tells me that the world's not broken, so we shouldn't try to fix it.  Ok, do I tell that to the King, or should I just leave well enough alone, knowing that it will all work out, in the end.  This is Sham's counsel.

    But almost everyone thinks the the world is broken, and they keep trying to fix it.... to improve it.  

    In point of fact, almost everyone would agree that, for the last four hundred years, at the least, we have been improving the world with our technology...... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/opinion/sunday/why-2017-may-be-the-best-year-ever.html  

    And, furthermore, sports fans, the Footmann had already employed the slipper-Princess combo-pack to help the King win his throne..... it's called manipulating the Vectors.  So who needs a Scribe or a Shaman?  We would just be the party-poopers for the PtB.  

    Sham says we should just go with the flow.  No sudden moves.  But Don seems to be full of sudden moves.  It's ok if the sleeping dog twitches whilst chasing rabbits in it's sleep.  But, if, per chance, you should awake, you should only play the spectator.  Anything more would just be tempting fate.  

    Now we see why this has to be a team effort.... why, for instance, the Scribe cannot be the King.  The King's job was to prepare folks to be awakened.  He had to stir the pot.  His job was to increase the flow rate.  And I can attest to his preliminary success.  You go, Don.  

    The Global Spirit is moving faster than ever before.  Thanks largely to Don, bless his heart.  

    Now, we can just sit back and drink the Tea.  Yes, Sham?  

    Further, I suspect the Footmann manipulated the Vectors to get the Princess, Skaizlimit, Falcon and Scribe all on the same page.... a real technician, he.  I just pretend to move the Shaman Vector.  

    Arthur wanted to know why those of us who showed up, yesterday, couldn't play the Electoral College as well as he did..... sore losers.  

    I'm guessing that all of these machinations have something to do with personalism, or, mainly with story telling.  Who doesn't love a good story, and why can't we have a Metanarrative, after all?  But isn't the Scribe supposed to write the story, not be in it, too?  Isn't that slightly overdone?   I really do apologize to Sham, but he doesn't accept my excuses and rationalizations.  Look, I'm just a former drip, under pressure.  Can't I be the antihero?  Isn't that postmodern enough?  

    And, besides, folks are expecting an antichrist, they just didn't expect the antichrist to have two masters degrees in physics. I mean, really, now, isn't that a bit silly? But is there a law against God employing clowns? Can't Sham let the show go on? Don't we all have to work?



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    Post by dan Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:12 am

    There is a rumor that I should be expecting a call from south of here.  Is that welcome news Sham?  There was no such rumor, previously.  Am I to be gratified or wary?  There is a political black hole, gaping.  Does truth need political support, especially from such partisanship?  Can truth look a gift horse in the mouth?  

    Look, I have no proof of the BPWH.  I only know that it has not received a fair hearing.  Merely acceding to the possibility of partisan support, is liable to tarnish it, even before it has a chance to see the light of day.  It makes sense that I should attempt to talk to somebody like Podesta, before embracing anyone associated with the new guy.  Of course, I won't be embracing anyone, but appearances would matter.  I have, of course, quite literally, embraced the Princess, and the Footmann has made no effort to conceal his political biases.  However, it may well be that the road to disclosure has run into various partisan speed bumps.

    Footmann has claimed that at one point he was supporting Bernie.  I have no proof of that.  I don't have any explanation of why he sees disclosure as such a political issue, in the first place.  He used to be more circumspect with regard to such biases.  His big career break does seem to have occurred in connection with a Republican administration, and even his future personal relationship.  So there was plenty of incentive for early partisanship.  

    And then there is the allegation that Trump was originally selected as the Disclosure president.  On which side of the green door was that selection made?  If disclosure is to be historically embedded, there will have to be a social context.... a personal context.  

    I mean that, unless you employ Gabriel with a trumpet in the sky, you're gonna be stuck with us humans.  


    6:30FT---------

    If we're speaking of political realities, there would be much pushback against any sort of disclosure, and particularly against one with metaphysical overtones.  There would be opposition from the right and left.  There would have to be some considerable motivation of a non-political nature.  If the primary motivation is non-political, then why all the apparent politics?  Inquiring minds would like to know.  


    Yes, Gary, thanks.  There are similarities.  


    How does one negotiate with cosmic elements?  I doubt that I'd want to be on the receiving end of those 'negotiations'.  An offer would be made that could hardly be refused.... one could only imagine, if imagination there be.  


    10:15--------

    Ron attempts to reassure me that this is not politics as usual. There is a lot more going on behind the scenes. I have little choice in my new found, strange bedfellows. If anyone wants to be above politics, the best place for that is up in the sky.

    He claims to have been close with Obama, and at least one of the Georges. I'm speculating that he did not get it on with either of the Clintons. He says that as Donald gradually gets around to charting his own course, the Republicans and Democrats will join in their opposition. And that he is not interested in getting reelected, and following the polls. Ron's nightmare is that Mike Pence might have to take over (e.g. if Donald gets impeached over disclosure?) And so it goes..... And, yes, they have had lengthy discussions on the deep stuff.... if you can believe it.... I'm not sure I can.

    In the latest Chronicles edition, there is much about the integration of art and science...... and about moving far away...... back to Kashmir and Shangri-La?

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    Dan, you (and Ron) would fit in perfectly as a character in MARK FROST's "Twin Peaks" Secrets book. Indeed, I wonder if you may have been an unwitting (or tele-empathic) influence. I suggest you check it out!

    If you order the book, get the hard cover edition. The book-filling graphic pages don't work in Kindle. Of course the bird-brained AVIANS are referenced along with MJ-12, etc.

    https://www.amazon.com/Secret-History-Twin-Peaks-Novel-ebook/dp/B01KFX635C/

    https://www.amazon.com/Mark-Frost/e/B000AQ72PA/

    MARK FROST is the bestselling author of The Greatest Game Ever Played, The Grand Slam, and the novels The Second Objective, The List of Seven, and The Six Messiahs. He received a Writers Guild Award and an Emmy nomination for the acclaimed television series Hill Street Blues, was co-creator and executive producer of the legendary ABC television series Twin Peaks, and in 2005 wrote and produced The Greatest Game Ever Played as a major motion picture from Walt Disney Studios. Mark lives in Los Angeles and upstate New York with his wife and son.


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    KIT GREEN and CIA, URI GELLER

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/no-way-could-explain-cia-scientist-convinced-uri-gellers-psychic/


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    Post by dan Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:05 am

    Thanks, Gary, for the Kit and Uri article.  I believe it captures the story quite well, just by the feel of it.  

    Would I have to hold my nose to work with the Don?  Hopefully, not.  His mission was to round up the 'deplorables'.  He accomplished that with remarkable aplomb.  He has formed his comfort zone around them.  Will he now be willing to move beyond that comfort zone?

    I, for one, have no script for that move.  I can only wish him luck.  Might he not get cold feet?  Maybe I could help with that.  Could I hold his hand?  Maybe, along with Aliyah, Kashmir and the Footmann.  

    I would love nothing more than to be assigned to protect his scientific/intellectual/theological flank.  That would be more fun than a barrel of monkeys.  That's what I've been trying to do since day one, back in 1977.  Of course, no one had any reason to pay any attention.  That was then.  My main opposition will come from the likes of Jack Sarfatti..... people who keep insisting that we follow the 'Pythagorean' model, putting the mathematical cart before the personal 'horse'.  Those 'Pythagoreans' just can't get over Wigner's UEM.  Even Pythagoras managed to get over it, in his day.  I can taste the intellectual blood, already.  I would counsel the taking of no prisoners.... off with their heads.  

    We make a clean break with materialism.  We have dug ourselves a very deep hole with our atomism.  We will not be able to climb out.  We'll have to take a leap, and pray that we land on our feet.  

    It's called a gestalt switch.  I've seen the other side, and it makes a lot more sense than atoms swerving in the void, third rock from the Sun, and all that.  The stars are decoration.  The Sun......?  Well, don't let the Sun blind you.  Most scientists have gone sun blind.  In the kingdom of the blind......

    There is a thing called scientific objectivism.  It has been the false flag of science, since day one.  There simply are no objects in the 'real' world.  Objects are the true disease of language....... not metaphysics, per se, as the 'ordinary language' philosophers would have it.  

    According to the common view proclaimed of science (scientism), only measurable objects are real, all else is illusion.  This dictum applies particularly to the existence of humans, who, on the scientistic view are bags of molecules, who happen to have gained a temporary survival advantage, but who, having 'abused' this advantage, are about to be consigned to the garbage bin of evolutionary 'mistakes'.  We're history.  

    Yes, there has been some intellectual pushback against scientism, but, to date, it has been ineffectual.  There has also been a fundamentalist pushback that has been ineffectual in all but evangelical circles, circles which are now just holding their own.  

    Scientific materialism (scientism), of logical necessity, makes grandiose claims as to the nature of reality.  Its grandiose claims are absolute claims to an absolute hegemony on the world.  That hegemony has been frequently challenged, but no smoking gun has been produced.  

    The lack of a smoking gun has been the central feature of the Katechon.  You might call it a design feature.  Yes, that design feature will become the cornerstone of a whole new world.  Mark my words.  

    It is my understanding, that Donald has been selected to set the political stage for this transcendence of scientism.  Ron claims to have had in depth discussions to this effect.  As I say, it is not easy to believe, but, believing it, I'm prepared for the BPW.  If the BPWH is ever to gain political traction, it would be through some scheme, such as this.  Wish us luck.  


    3:45FT-----------

    Just looking at Donald, I see no indication that he is contemplating any sort of pivot with respect to scientism. My only source is a professional disinformer, and, just now, his wife is refusing to speak with me, and I'm heading out of town for a week. I do have an independent source concerning the BPWH, namely myself, and my limited ability/proclivity for ratiocination.

    All I really have to know is that metaphysics is grossly undervalued by philosophers and theologians, alike. There will be a political rebalancing. Whether or not Donald will have anything to do with any of this is totally beside the point. What is the point? The only point is that truth will have its day in court. That I can assure you, with all the confidence I can muster.



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    I just caught up on OMF.

    Funny story Dan.

    I find the King very amusing.

    He is the definition of Fool.

    Dan, if you stop and just spend some time being silent, something will happen.

    I am getting constant ringing in my ears now. More signs of madness I'm sure.

    My Aunt is a Psychologist. I think she is one step from thinking I'm insane or an evolved Human.

    I tried to tell her my Human part is still here.

    I don't really know what the other parts are, but I let her know I'd keep her updated.

    Don't look too long at the Sun.

    You will end up like me.

    Filled with power you have no idea how to use.

    My friends and family are enjoying watching myself unfold.

    Some not. They miss old Eric. Ha. What is that?

    They don't like me giving up.

    So blind. I have not given up.

    I am now above it, so that I can bring what is needed back into it.

    Half are terrified, the rest urge me to be careful.

    All gave up trying to wait for me to shutup.

    Part of my true will is to write and speak.

    It is all spontaneous in the moment.

    I asked someone careful about what?

    They said the unknown.

    I said I know nothing.

    I am the unknown.

    I am always the last to know.

    Some think it means something.

    No. It doesn't mean anything.

    We are not our thoughts.

    We are not our actions.

    We are the experience of receiving, giving and creating.

    Anyone can experience.

    The only meaning is the echo the actions and words make inside you.

    ---

    In the Darkness, The Path. You are The Path.

    ---

    I have been talking to Donald via twitter. He probably sees none of it. But if he read my tweets, he knows who I am. Funny. I never do that. I never react to people in public directly. I don't care what the sleeping do. That's just for us to watch. This place isn't public. It's hidden somehow.

    I know myself and what I must do.

    NOTHING!

    The wave will carry us.

    Now when I meditate I only see a giant Sun and myself hanging in space. It talks to me through flashes and pulsing. I don't know what it means, but I am having Quadruple synchonicities.

    Another Shaman met me at work. No shit. A fucking child God. He was amazing. We talked without speaking. I found someone like me. God. It was something. He wants to come work for me now. What could we learn together? He shares my Sephardic Jewish heritage. My studies are the same as his Father's. Enough said. We will explore our connection. He's Italian and lives in Zurich. He does what I do. We were both told we were meant for each other. We had something to give each other. It is the kind of High Strangeness, if I explained completely, would cause you to find your heart or lose your mind instantly.

    I'm not sure which of us was crazier. I was the newly minted Shaman, he many years on the Path. He recognized what has happened here and it is AWESOME!

    We were both given oracles we would meet, so when we did, there would be no doubt.

    No doubt. Maybe he is the Devil himself. I doubt it. We cried together. My boss will lose his mind when I tell him the whole story.

    I share that for you to know. This is real, as real a dream can be. There are Great Powers moving. I know my path of inaction is correct for me.

    Dan, I do not know the way for you. You are following your Path. Only in the heart and through sincerity are you given access to the Sun.

    That is how I met you Dan.

    No doubt. No fear. I'm going with it.

    I don't know anything.

    I don't want anything.

    I am empty.

    I am Love.

    I found the Kingdom of God in my heart. I would be fine to stop here and live my life out with Marissa forever and forget all of this. We may yet get to do that together. I long ago accepted I am promised nothing. Not even another moment. I live that reality and plan nothing accordingly.

    What else is there for you or anyone to do, but lose themselves in the Sun.

    Everything else is a distraction from The Word.

    Do you know what Hell is, the loss of the Word.

    They hear nothing out there mostly Dan and they are each one living their own private hells. they hate themselves and thus the world. How dare it treat them this way! The world is theirs!

    Thinking like that is true insanity. The King may be insane. If so, I am insane in the opposite way.

    What happens if I let myself really wake up?

    I have been holding back truthfully.

    I am nothing.

    I AM YOU.

    You are my Beloved.

    I am EVERYTHING and I know it.

    What do you guys know?

    ---

    Yes, I am diseased...

    Divine Madness

    I have a disease
    Divine madness
    I am a Lover
    I am not alone
    Drink deeply
    From this living water
    And you will lose yourself
    And taste my madness
    Drink the water of life
    The kingdom of God
    Is only in the Now
    At the end of the Rainbow
    Love never fails
    It never runs out
    It will last until
    The final grain of time
    Has fallen from
    The Hand of God
    And then you will know
    Eternal Love

    I have spoken deeply from my Heart. Who can stand in theirs here with me, letting the wave carry us with no effort of ours?

    Everything has meaning.

    When you can walk on the Earth and know what sacred gift and responsibility your life is, we can talk. No one else would understand me.

    People will sleep until they are not.

    I'm not your man Dan, no one listens to me,

    BUT ME!

    I literally marvel at the these tings that spue forth.

    My own words set me free.

    I guess you have to save yourself first.

    That is the first test of courage.

    Have courage.

    "Fidelity to the law of your own being is an act of high courage flung in the face of Life." - Carl Jung

    Yes Dan, it takes a mighty leap.

    The biggest yet.

    But, have no fear, in authentic and sincere leaping, something always catches you.

    Everyone has a different lock and key on their heart.

    I'm here to help unlock our hearts.

    I can smell the shape of the key and lock given enough close proximity.

    And I am having one hell of a time.
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    Post by dan Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:07 am

    Eric,

    For someone who is so much into silence, you sure are full of advice.  


    I have just one action item for the boys and girls in DC.  Provide me with access to Peter Thiel.  Between the two of us, we'd have all the info, connections, resources and chutzpah necessary to turn the world on a dime.  No?  

    Debbie reminds me that Peter is into vengeance.  Maybe he needs his come to Jesus moment.  

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/technology/peter-thiel-new-zealand-citizenship.html  

    And then there's this....... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/fashion/peter-thiel-donald-trump-silicon-valley-technology-gawker.html

    And, if truth be told, it was Eric who first alerted me to Peter.  Ye of little faith........


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    Post by dan Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:31 am

    And this from Eric.......
    Now I saw them in my room. As I awoke from a dream, two beings were standing to the right of the foot of, of the bed. I was having a surreal intense dream about this place. I can't remember! It was an awakening dream my guide tells me. I remember flashes. Buildings, scenes. But not what was happening now. As I woke up, I felt restrained. It felt like a giant spider jumped on my chest when I was trying to get up. It dissolved as I awoke and I was not in a dark room. The room was merged with the Dream and I saw the dream overlay the room the two beings faded after I was up and saw them for 5 seconds. Part of me tried to look away and the other wouldn't let me. It happened 10 mins ago. I only saw shiny bodies fading, no heads. The objects in my dream felt so real and visceral. I have not remembered a dream or woken up from one for over a Year. My heart is racing, but I'm not scared. Intense. The most real feeling ever for me. No exaggeration or embellishment I swear. I witness truthfully always my experience. I surprised them. They were there coordinating my dream I feel. I felt strong and foggy when I was waking up. The spider dissolved into fire. It's fuzzy. But I felt as if my arms and chest were tired after I woke up from pushing the 4 foot spider off my chest. It prob is nothing. Like everything else thats not happening. Back to bed. Now I have the tingles everywhere. I think it's all ok. Night. I'm fading.
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    Sorry, no advice. Saying 'You' in my post I believe is for humanity or points to myself.

    Remember I'm always writing to myself.

    I do not presume it is meant for others.

    Unless I say your name, it's a collective you.

    Now if some struck home.

    I guess that bit was personal.

    Shrug.

    I can't read your mind.

    Yet Wink

    I told you about Elon Musk. I think He and Peter opposites sides of the same coin.

    My girlfriend had a dream last night too.

    She said we were in a meeting talking about Disclosure.

    She remembered another word 'Satya' said in the dream.
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    “The election had an apocalyptic feel to it,” says Mr. Thiel, wearing a gray Zegna suit and sipping white wine in a red leather booth at the Monkey Bar in Manhattan. “There was a way in which Trump was funny, so you could be apocalyptic and funny at the same time. It’s a strange combination, but it’s somehow very powerful psychologically.”


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    Interesting Gary.

    It was and is Apocalyptic.

    I have been trolling FB.

    The intellectuals are in shock and open rebellion.

    I feel Trump is Chaos. And during the time of transition out of the darkness of Kali Yuga, who better to lead but Darkness itself. It will hold to the last moment.

    So there isn't really anything to do I feel but watch.

    I know others feel differently.
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:09 am

    Friday, January 27, 2017, 11:47am , Culebra, Zoni Beach

    Trump could, amidst the other confusion, pose a UFO investigation as another anti-Clinton, anti-establishment initiative, but, at the same time, be nonchalant about it, even a bit dismissive, as in a tweet.

    Better yet, Donald could say that Barron had been asking his mom and dad about flying saucers, having heard one of the many stories and/or that a friend at school had suggested he ask his dad.

    This should happen during the first 100 days.

    Nah, this sounds hokey. An alternative would be to persuade Peter to persuade Elon to pop the question. The posing of the question would be circulated in the Valley...... along with a rumor as to a new source. There could be a local newsprint story.


    6FT--------

    To get a known person to participate in disclosure, s/he would need to be in direct contact with a top administration official.

    Otherwise, we're back to just staying here at OMF, with the escalated dissemination of information. That does not rule out talking to people like Peter, Elon or Mike P. But what would be our action item for them? It is not at all clear.

    The ultimate decision is either to bypass the president or not. If the pod story is accurate, it would be very difficult to make an end run.... to go rogue. At one point, last year, the possibility of a Shenandoah 'rendezvous' was considered. It was not going to be easy. This was just before the pod idea was introduced. Authorization was not mentioned.



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    Post by dan Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:37 am

    I frankly don't see much point in pretending a back door approach to the WH.  The subterfuge would last only a few weeks, at most, and then we'd be right back where we started.  

    Trump could do the honorable thing, and just resign, like pope Benedict.  But, instead of Francis waiting in the wings, we have Mike Pence.  I could do the honorable thing, and get out of Dodge, through the portal.  

    If Trump was selected to be the Disclosure president, I don't see that he would have any role to play, other than stirring the pot.  The only thing I've seen that might be disclosure related would be his getting born again.  Otherwise, nothing registers.  I think it's already too late for him to change his stripes.  IOW, he's gonna keep playing the jingoist card.  

    WWJD......?  I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be playing the jingoist card.  That would be something for the antichrist to do.  

    Does Trump want to play the Antichrist card?  He's sure seems to be making a stab at it..... just keep it up, Donald.  

    Which card would Mike play?  He sure would be anti- Chicken Little.  

    How many world leaders have been briefed, besides Donald?  Theresa May would be likely, so would the handful of others we've mentioned.  They must be wondering who turned him loose. Who let the Dog out?  

    The anti-abortion card is likely to be the litmus test between the old and new politics.  With the old politics, it's the number one priority.  With the new politics, it would be way down on the list.  Could Mike possibly pivot on abortion?  Donald could pivot much more easily than Mike, on that issue.  That's about the only thing Donald could do.

    And, when push comes to shove, who's going to be able to override the President on portal access?  Can Ron or MJ1?  If so, could the President block the subsequent publicity?  That seems highly doubtful.  

    So, we have Disclosure, and I can skedaddle..... then what?  Is it Ron, the Princess or some other insider who is left holding the bag?  I certainly could give none of them any sort of nod, never having even been able to discuss their worldview.  It would be a mad scramble.  Eric is the only one in the wings, and he's awfully inexperienced.  

    I'm real sorry, but I guess I'd have to oversee the choice for Mike Pence's vp.  That's about the most and the least that I could do.  

    Ok, back to the beach..... some beach, as Blake Shelton would say.....

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