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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:19 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, I'm slowly backing away. You guys have fun. Until next time, don't let the aliens or black op fascists get you.

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    Simply, there is no seeker. 
    There is nothing to attain. 
    No such thing as enlightenment. 
    Let's stop all this silliness.

    We are lost in a hypnotic dream of separation. 

    Searching for something only illustrates ignorance of reality.

    Refining the mind seems like a good use of time. 

    We are just dreamseekers following dreamteaching. 

    There is no understanding oneness, there is just being in it.

    This is all already known.

    We just are remembering.

    That includes all of your drama too Dan. 

    We will have no impact unless love is involved. 

    I know, I'm no help and a big distraction.

    That is half right, we are all so very distracted.

    Love is all that is moving.

    As you were.


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    OK Dan, I must adopt the PSR and demand causes for all facts, even mystical experience can be subjected to this scrutiny I guess. We don't go far enough to root cause because we find a warm hole to hide in. It's tough to leave such a place once you find one. I understand everything must be subjected to reason and reason is as natural as God.

    It is reason that leads to the mind of God.

    Underhill said, "When we are awed by the intolerable majesty of the Himalaya, when we look . . . at the lonely hostile beauty of the Eismeer - only water at a low temperature after all - . . .we are merely receiving through symbols adapted to our size, intimations of the Absolute Beauty. . . .Looking at an object which is `beautiful' or `sacred'. . . we are - if we receive a genuine aesthetic or religious impression - passing through and beyond this object, to the experience of an Absolute revealed in things."

    All I have been saying is mystical experience is the personal experience of the Absolute in all things. You see all things around you as symbols and aspects of that Absolute. Does reason not bring you to the same place? How does one reconcile the PSR with that intuitive world view? The PSR is described as intuitive.

    OK Dan, if CERN says they have evidence that they have communicated with a another parallel dimension, what about the PSR then? Out the window and back to the drawing board? Will you kill yourself? You can't God must exist by his nature. Just curious. For you this is impossible.

    And Quantum Computers, if they work, and they have working ones, a little computation is happening in a parallel Universe mathematically. What about that one? Impossible for you right?

    OK, I begin to see where you are coming from a little clearer and why I seem to be talking past you and why the BPW follows.

    The BPW is all you have to keep you from cracking up.

    What If I said I feel like intuitive right brain thinking creates connections between the past, present and future in the same moment. Maybe, we step outside of time with our right brain intuition. It is not completely explainable by the PSR, is it? The PSR does not apply to the unmanifest, does it? How do you explain your Sophia experiences with the PSR?

    And how can Spinoza/Leibniz just declare, hey, there is a reason for everything. Is that just not a tool to sift things and orient yourself with? The reasons may be and are beyond our understanding sometimes. So, if you can have interdimensional awareness, you cannot claim absolutes about the BPW and PSR from our limited view here, they are just tools to orient yourself where you are now, no?

    "But Plato believes that there are things that are not among the things that “come to be,” and some of these things have no cause or reason. For example, the Demiurge creates the world by imposing order on disorderly motion. The disorderly motion preexists the work of the Demiurge. It is uncaused and there is no reason for it." - You need to leave room like Plato, I am with him for now. I happen to know the Universe was created in a spontaneous act of Joy.

    So, let's just say that some of my and your experience is in the realm of the unmanifest which may be beyond cause and effect, so again, we can only know the inside of our egg until the veil is lifted. Our right brain balances the left, knowledge and intuition balanced. Is that not our goal?

    Tell me the error in my thinking, please.
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    Post by dan Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:14 pm

    Your only error, Eric, is taking my left/right dualism too seriously. Both of us are monists, lest ye forgets.

    Reason and intuition/emotion know no bounds. They converge in the limit. Now, we broach that limit.
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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:19 pm

    Point of fact, I think we are qubits.
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    Post by dan Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:39 pm

    Qubits.........?

    We are qubits in the crannied wall - Wordsworth.


    The unmanifest........?

    There is a season for everything. Be patient.
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    Post by dan Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:28 am

    There is a reason for pure chance...... the casinos depend upon it.... they even depend upon the lucky streak.  


    Demiurge........?

    Christ was a reverse trickster..... getting himself crucified, and all that 'foolishness'!  But, more to the point, he might also be mistaken for a demiurge, as Freya, tricking the oyster-like gods into producing the pearl of great price, the BPW.

    And let us not forget the thief in the night.
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    Seems Dan has been activated or he stopped taking his anti-dementia meds.
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    Post by Guest Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:52 pm

    Jung in 1958 wrote about UFOs. 

    "Something is seen but one does not know what."

    Circular shapes represent the whole self. 

    UFOs, our modern mandalas and group synchronicity? The consciousness of our age has separated. A savior is needed. Our longing for wholeness is collectively being projected onto the UFO phenomenon. He did not think UFOs as collective delusion. 

    He said UFOs could be real and unknown just when the eyes of man are turning to heaven.

    Dan, you are one rascally rabbit. You get it. 

    Also, my synchronistic training is focusing me on western esoteric schools. This is what us been provided for this age. 

    Just because something is being projected doesn't mean it isnt real. Jung would be investigating the psychology of the group projections.

    We are oh so hungry for wholeness, but we cannot deny this manifestation. Dan you are right that the way forward is a synthesis of everything before and what is new in our age. 

    What is unfolding here? 

    The UFOs fit into an archetypal pattern. 

    Here it is folks. 

    I was handed this on a platter. The foolish will shame the wise. The conscious ego is reacting to a new force far transcendent. It does not know if it is benign or sinister.

    Everything is questioned. This must be resolved, it's driving us crazy. Many must have gone insane carrying this burden on their own.

    I see our evolutionary step inside is all playing out on the outside through the UFO phonomena. TPTB are a proxy for the group soul of man not sure about this change. 

    Dan is literally spoon feeding the western mind it's medicine. We have borrowed liberally from the East and group mind, but the west made all this personal. It happened this way, because it is personal.

    We are not to deny our incarnation. You have to work it out right where you are. There is a reason we are here. Now, we have wasted a lot of time, but it was the time we needed. Humanity will know again what it is, we don't have to believe anything anymore. 

    As Dan says, later on, a lot of us will willingly let go of our knowledge. I suppose others will embrace knowledge in an enlightened way. This can be a partial end of ignorance. I don't know how many of us will wake up in this wave. It seems most plans end up being frustrated.

    What we need now is not to come together, God needs some Jungian psychotherapy Wink

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    I had to summarize all the threads and try to tie a knot. I think this is what's happening in part, at least inside us and why the UFOs.

    https://quantumunderground.com/2016/08/28/innerverse-and-universe/

    How did I do Dan being a total UFO noob? This is what immediately occurs to me summing it all up today through the lens Carl gave me. No worries, no one reads me Wink I'll be happy to send you a copy of the alien mandala for your coloring pleasure. If you color enough in Aliens come and talk to you.

    This is my submission for my official CIA ID badge and maybe the aliens will recognize me.

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    Post by dan Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:16 am

    Jung does provide a good synthesis.


    10ft--------

    The DR is still slated for next month.  Kevin will deploy his film crew, and yesterday obtained a contract with a tv network for the documentary, which the DR will be part of.  

    When I attempted to obtain details w.r.t. the DR, almost none were forthcoming.  He repeated the assertion that I, rather than Jack, would be gratified.  When I employed the terms of 'UT', 'shape-shifter'  or 'EBE', Ron would not consent.  

    He has not even used the term of Visitor or entity.  He did, earlier, state that the other parties would arrive in their own conveyances, not ours.  And that the meeting would be indoors.  

    Equipment was being put together, for several days in the desert.  

    I have not even gotten around to asking about arrangements and protocol for said meeting, or how they might (jointly?) be established.  

    He suggested that other details could be obtained from John, who is supposed to be back on the forum.  I would also be expecting to obtain more information from Kevin and Falcon.  The Shenandoah meeting (with Nightingale?) is still in abeyance, according to Aliyah.  

    So far, I guess I have nothing to complain about......  We are moving forward, expeditiously, while maintaining a minimalist posture.  The semblance of this disclosure process being a package deal, is minimally being maintained just w.r.t. the OM portion, right here.  Cy should be gratified, I hope.  

    As a measure of where we are in this process, Steve Bassett is still skeptical.  I call him.... not the other way, and that is fine with me.  

    W.r.t. the September surprise, I should ask whether any other, unrelated surprise is still pending.  I hope not.  

    If not, then the DR has been foreseen at least since 1/'15.  It would not be nearly as spontaneous as even I might suppose.  But the SS was always portrayed as something global.  It's certainly not clear how there might be a continuous path from here to there.  Through OM?  That would be a stretch.  

    But, hey, Eric, aren't I just going with the flow?  Just, anyone, show me where the flow is going.  


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    So, where are w.r.t. the SWH......?  


    2:30---------

    Had conversations with Steve and with Falcon.  


    3---------

    Eric, were I a museum curator, I'm not quite sure how I would catalog that one.  

    Fun......?  I'll admit that, between long stretches of boredom and frustration, there have been moments of frivolity.  

    Falcon agreed to meet tomorrow, between our respective abodes, to continue the conversation from two weeks ago.  

    Steve and I spoke for almost an hour........

    He's still skeptical, but I felt encouraged to make most of my points.  

    It was very hard to convince him that all this might be happening without official sanction.  At least, there has to be someone in charge.  When I explain to him that I'm just a take charge sort of guy, he seems very underwhelmed.  Couldn't central casting have come up with someone more plausible?  

    I had always been assuming that the minimal path to disclosure would, quite logically, start with it's historical aspect.  But once we rule out the cliche of the ufo landing on the WH lawn, all the wiggle room now seems to reside in starting this whole process over again, basically from scratch.  There is no baggage or dirty linen to be dumped on the public.  No finger pointing, hopefully.  We have a clean slate, except for R&D, and, heck, I'm just a volunteer, walking in, off the street.  

    How, though, we might concoct an SS out a tall tale being told by Ron's old cronies....... it's beyond me.  I hope that the special effects people can pull something out of their hats.  


    And how will the BPWH be holding up......?  

    Will I finally get my focus group?  Will falcon be my very first focuser?  I can hardly wait.  After 40 years I might finally get a one person captive audience.  If God has anything to do with any of this, she must be laughing her socks off.  


    4:30-------

    Eric, if this is the only one, we can't very well call it a multiverse, now,can we.  Our nightmares could constitute the worst possible world (WPW).  


    The BPWH.......?  I still have to struggle with it.  The veil of nature is a very convincing subterfuge.  This grand deception has been so grand that it's quite surprising that we haven't all succumbed to the great apostasy.  

    Indeed, there go I, but for the grace of Sophia.  

    However, quite candidly, I'm a bit surprised that the anthropic principle and the mind-brain problem have not led to more handwringing amongst the scientific set.  I mean, come on guys and gals, show a bit of humility in the face of our cosmic mystery.  But, no, I'm not here to point fingers.  Let's move on, into our brave new BPW.  

    What is the biggest obstacle to my own sense of comfort w.r.t. the BPWH?   It does keep shifting.  When doubt rears its head in one area, I focus on that area, until it raises its head in another.  Whack-a-mole anyone?   Between atoms and stars, I can run myself ragged, putting out the fires.  Then I take a break.  

    Yes, I embrace Wigner's UEM.  When the materialists explain the UEM, I'll explain the BPWH.  Fair enough?  

    I'll be the first to admit that there is a logical unity to science.  And that's how I explain it.  

    The logical unity of science points to the telos of our own sapience. This is the CohTT in action. This is the primary manifestation of monism. No big deal, unless your mind is simply stuck in the materialist rut. In that case, may Sophia help you. I not sure what I can do.



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    Come on, that was a pretty good pic. 

    I've never seen the path from here to there.

    If something really goes down, and I ain't holding my breath, that would be interesting.

    Seems the flow is flowing and you aren't screaming murder.

    You seem to be having fun.

    Flow on.
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    Dan, could it be the Best Possible Multiverse and we live in the best and only one?
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    There are scientists starting to stick their neck out. Then you have the usual suspects arguing with each other. Dennet just came out last week and said Philosophy is missing it and most are playing it safe. Seems the atheists are the ones roaring like lions. Man those guys are going to end up being shown to be the dumbest people on the planet taking everything so literally and thinking it's all in their heads. I do t think they really think that way, but they don't know enough yet to upset the applecart.

    The multiverse being the only one was a joke, of course it's the only one if it's not just math Wink I was reading someone who mentioned the BPW in relation to the multiverse, not a scientist though.

    As you were.
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    Post by dan Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:09 am

    How much stock am I putting in the DR or the SS?  Not much.  But how much longer can we keep muddling?  Who can say?  

    Human fertility can continue its natural decline.  That will meliorate the pressure on natural resources.  Standards of living may go into secular decline, if they haven't already.  Economic cycles, like climate cycles, will mask the trend.  

    There may be breakthroughs in physics and the limits to growth, but we have nothing to point to, except to the sky.  

    There is something in the air, in the water.  There are portents, especially if you are looking.  Ephemerality is endemic.  Some rough beast lurches toward Bethlehem.  

    It could be that the materialists are correct.  What chance is that?  Is there a snowball's chance?  I just don't see the attraction, but so many seem so attracted, or are they more being repelled by the rough beast.... by their childhood's end?  

    If not materialism, we have to confront the monism of the consensual present (MCP).... the principle of sufficient reason (PSR).... etc.  

    But when confront?  We have all the time in the world, says chicken little.  

    If not atoms, we have a source to reckon with.  How reckon?  

    We have been thrown on our own devices..... for millennia.  There is faith for the few... agnosticism for the many.  

    There are lights in the sky..... in the desert.  Come play, we might learn something.... see something... hear something.  

    It would be one way for the Source to wake us.... perhaps even the best way.  

    When.......?  Hurry, Lord.....?  What more can I say..... can anyone say?  


    12:30ft----------

    The Grand Deception.......?  How grand?  Quite.  You can fool all the people some of the time.  I was so fooled, until Sophia..... she came and found me.  

    I've tried my darnedest to spread the joy, but who am I?  I'm not Sophia, evidently.  Folks fear joy.... something for nothing.  

    Sophia sends a backup, out in the desert.  Yes, we could all use a backup.  Will it suffice unto the day?  Are folks ready for the shot to be heard 'round the world.  Will it be an intrusion?  Any better than the proverbial saucer on the Lawn?  We can hope..... a mustard seed of faith.  Help us, Lord.  The hopes and fears of all the years......

    I can count the chickens.  I've watched the basket as closely as I can, without being a nuisance.  It's not the prettiest basket in the world, but that was never the point.  If it is a joke, it's well above my paygrade.  Mine was not to reason why.  


    About those atoms and stars.........

    We have the Sun and Earth.  And we have the MCP.  On the Earth we have persons.  We have the metabolism of stars and atoms.... really of persons.  It all seems so seamless.  There is the magic of light..... Feynman's little photons..... those squiggly lines.  They work.

    The Standard Model..... it works.  The UEM....  the atoms are embedded in that logic..... the logic is embedded in the atoms.  Where does the logic come from?  It's about where we come from..... the logos spermatikos.  Why this something?  Why anything?  If you're gonna make a mistake, make it big..... says Freya.  I guess she was in cahoots with Sophia.  


    2:15---------

    Footmann will meet with Condor/Collins and then with Albatross. There is some caution around Albatross, and Ron has not met him previously. Falcon is supposed to know quite a bit about the rendezvous, but will not be attending. I know rather little.



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    I'm thankful to have found a clear light through all of this happening inside and out.

    You have an ego, is it that hard to understand how scared they are and how superior intelligence makes a monkey brain not on his knees feel?

    I am here to serve I accepted and that is enough for me, what else do I or you need?

    One day, the stubborn illusion will fade.

    There is a reason for this.

    This is not just happening, it is a great Happening.

    Those of us with the experience of the Real have no choice but to live this out eyes wide open.
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    “That which is spoken by God-the-Sun is life; that which is spoken by the Devil is death; Abraxas speaketh that hallowed and accursed word, which is life and death at the same time. Abraxas begetteth truth and lying, good and evil, light and darkness in the same word and in the same act. Wherefore is Abraxas terrible.” – C. Jung


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    Yes, I am clueless Dan. But I'm still here reading.
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    Post by dan Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:06 am

    Both Steve and Bill were nonplussed by the alleged DR.  

    I mean, it's magic in the reverse..... how does the biggest event in history (setting aside the X-event) become a virtual non-event?  

    Now, I'm not saying that the alleged DR will specifically be this non-event, but let it serve as a proxy.  

    The ufologists have been assuming a coverup.  Perhaps.  Perhaps even JFK was assassinated, around that alleged coverup.  After that, it was outsourced.  At the same time, I'm willing to suppose that the GIC was created mainly to facilitate this outsourcing, far from any official channels.  This was not a secular affair.  Nor was it a religious affair.  It was simply a matter of metaphysics..... i.e. news from nowhere.  

    Well, it was to be a matter of metaphysical personalism, somewhat ad-hominem, even.  

    Thus have we devolved to Ron and his buddies, all very ad-hoc.  This is the end of that line.  You'd have a real hard time tracing it back.  It's about moving forward.  Everyone just goes with the flow..... on both sides.... me and my rubber ducky.  This is the BPW, after all.  It's all about minimalism.  If you blink, you'll miss it.  

    Going forward, looking back...... all we get to see is a butterfly flapping its wings.  Is this the SS?  I'm afraid so, sports fans.  This is what the doctor ordered.  

    Sure, there'll be some underexposed, grainy pics, easily doctorable.  The rest..... is history.  Only well after the fact, will the circumstances begin to compute.  Yes, the Metanarrative is, rather definitely, context dependent.  With the 24 hour news cycle, we lost all of our contextuality.  It's time we won it back.  This will be the perfect (best possible) context for the new contextuality.  Hey, but don't take my word for it.  The proof can only be in the pudding.  And, yes, this will be but one more example of the logos spermatikos.... the viral meme, if you will.  


    10:30ft--------

    Steve was particularly vexed by the simple fact of two briefing teams..... one for each candidate..... Ron getting to be on the Trump team, lucky guy.  What would we pay to see the look on his face?  How would it go......?  Yes, other than that, Mr Trump, how did you enjoy the briefing.  Could he have been a co-conspirator?  Much more like an unwitting agent of opportunity.  

    Hillary......?  Not quite so much fun.  

    Steve did not understand the ad-hominem part of this.... she already had her own team..... no biggie.  

    But how does this square with the butterfly in Africa......?  

    Well, yes, there are certain formalities.... niceties, if you will..... just in case something goes 'wrong'.  Yes, even the wrongs can be scripted.  Like I say, there must be an infinite depth to all this.  That's  how we maintain our semblance of free will, in this BPW.  It has to do with the presence of the Present.... the MCP, etc.  

    IOW, the SS will be in the bag.  We needst break that glass, only in the event of an emergency.  In the event of an emergency, we can siphon off, as needed.  This would have been the protocol since the git go, anyway.  The only difference now is, perhaps, that we have a better take on the BPWH.... IMHO.  It helps, if we can be on this same, quasi-public, page..... those who need to be.  


    noon/ft---------

    The hidden hand gradually becomes less hidden, and more constructive.  

    Theoretical physics continues to become less inhibited by its traditions.  It, too, goes with the immaterialist flow.  

    Discretion is always the better part of valor.  Finesse is the name of the game, as always.  The GIC is in place, to this end.  For how long will the grey lady be able to partake of the finesse?  Indefinitely.  The internet.....?  Well, OM shows the way..... yes, Cy?  

    Three weeks ago, I wouldn't have thought this possible, but now it seems only obvious.  I may be a bit ahead on the news from nowhere, but I've only been playing catchup with the politics, from the git go.

    Is there some cheating on the political front......?  I would suspect so.  I would hope so.  Freya is not, in the first instance, Sophia.  I am a bit jealous of Sophia.  Freya..... well, she's a bit more promiscuous, bless her heart.  She's much more the political animal.  She has her work cut out for her, especially at this particular juncture.  Wouldn't you say?  


    Yes, it is still quite possible that this is all a joke, and I'm the butt of the joke.  But what a joke!  

    I mean, it's been worth the price of admission.  And we do get the BPWH, in the bargain.  What, then, are we to make of that hypothesis......?  

    Did the BPWH just tag along for this ride?  


    2ft-------------

    I wonder about that.  If this is a joke, who is it on?  

    Is the point of this joke to finally discredit idealism?  That's a bit heavy.  To discredit metaphysics and religion?   Would the CIA wish to be implicated, no matter how marginally?  Even Freya might object.  

    The joke scenario is not making much sense.  Disinformation?  But why pick someone with this much baggage?  

    Am I the only only sucker who would play along to this extent?  And does not that extent strongly correlate with the metaphysics at stake?  Are we not playing with fire?  Should children be allowed, on either side?  I ask you, sports fans.  


    7:20---------

    What are the chances that all this is an illusion?  Nil.  And I would have to agree, if stated so broadly.  

    What are the chances that things are not quite as they appear?  Hmmm...... Hardly any disagreement on that score, but everyone would produce a different account of the underlying reality.  

    For instance, some would claim that persons are the closest to being real.  Others would suppose just the opposite.  


    Now, Ron is claiming that Trump has been briefed, and supports the DR.  Being consistent, I can't quite assign zero credibility to this report, but I don't know anyone else who wouldn't.  Do you?  

    Where would this leave us?  Twisting in the wind?  Anyone care to join me?  Don't everyone speak at once.....  I'd wait for the grey lady, before offering any bets.  

    Who are the Visitors going to vote for.......?  They haven't registered, yet.  Donald will need to build a really high fence.  Do they prefer beer or mimosas?  Rumor is that they're wild about strawberry ice-cream.  

    Nope.  I just checked.  The Times has not picked up the story, yet.  Must be fact checking.  Yes, I would recommend that.



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    I am struggling with outfitting for an upcoming expedition into the desert. Because the nature and duration of the expedition is unknown, I need to pack a variety of long lasting provisions. In particular, I need food supplies w/ long shelf life such as freeze dried or MREs. Some cooking and camp fuel may also be needed, but that will not be clear until shortly before departure. I also need a supply of clean (new) underwear, socks, boots, and band specific goggles. Please consider donating to this expedition.
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    I'm on the edge of my seat, really, I'm serious.

    Can't wait to see how this turns out.

    What next?
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    Skai,

    I have donated $250 out of my monthly stipend.   That should pay for several pairs of socks.  It can get chilly in the desert at night.  

    I cannot honestly encourage others to follow suit, not having any firm data about the nature of this expedition.  Nor, it appears, do you.  The word last evening was that Ron might not be able to attend, since he needs to be home to help care for the puppies, who still haven't opened their eyes.  

    I would think that in such circumstance as I speculate, there would be a need for continuity, such as Ron claimed to provide.  Do you have anyone else to provide the continuity?  Forty days of wandering in the desert could try a man's soul.  


    Eric,

    Better let me count the chickens, on this one.  I've been a chicken counter for forty years, and I have yet to see my first chicken.  But, yes, it's good for the soul.... or so they tell me.  


    10:30--------

    What's the falcon gonna say about all this? Which chickens does he count?

    Will it be Freya or Sophia who will be on the dock? Sophia is my girl. Freya...... I'm not so sure about. She's the party girl. I'm trying to remember the song...... Buddy Knox. Not quite my type, but I can appreciate.... from a distance.

    Where will Sophia go next? Whose party will she crash? Whose party won't she crash?

    Ground truth, they call it. It will be quite a let down, especially for those who haven't been, already. For some burned at the stake, it was not as painful as the loss of a lover. Very few of us can remember our first love, but we all remember our second.... on the rebound. When that first one returns, who among us will recognize her? Eric says he can. I'll take his word for it. Me? I have to work it out with a pencil.



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    Sorry, sports fans, but there does seem to be a technical glitch, in getting involuntarily redirected to advertisers......

    And I'm headed OTL.....
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    Thanks Dan. That is a mighty generous donation. What we don't use for socks, we can use for other important supplies. My knowledge of facts, details, specifics for the DR is not yet available. And to my recall, having helped my late Juniper whelp three litters of pups, they open their eyes about four weeks of age, but I'd double check since it's been ten years since her last litter. The puppies need initial blind time to help them focus on developing their primary sense of scent. Wolf cubs open their eyes at four months, and learn to do quite well in the olfactory domain.
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    You are most welcome. I trust that you will not spend it all in one sock store.

    Yes, it's been about four weeks. There's still some questions about where to go....... Shenandoah or the desert. Ron has been more focused on the desert.

    Lunch with the Falcon went well from my perspective. I got to do most of the talking. He didn't have to roll his eyes too often. Is he ready to explain it to Francis? I don't see why not.


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    Dan, Sophia had some mercy on me and whispered in my ear. She said, ignore the illusion that surrounds you and cling to what is real in you. Maybe not so much a game after all.

    The Sun is the Source and Light in us and Abraxas is the event, to be transcended.

    We have been glamoured by our creator, who stole its power to create us.

    Just bastards.

    We are just Sun worshipers, worshipping the one Above All.

    Jung went half mad mapping the landscape.

    I wonder what all this myth and symbol truly obscures.

    Listening to all and following none turns out so far to be the best advice I ever got.

    I scratch my head wondering where Aliens come into all this.

    If Christ showed up to steal the show and finished it, why do we need them?

    Are they stewards of this crazy train?

    How would Abraxas allow that?

    Some interesting reading, to pass the time...

    http://gnosis.org/library/psophint.htm
    http://gnosis.org/library/grs-mead/fragments_faith_forgotten/
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    Eric,

    Things do seem to be getting a bit out of hand, here.

    Maybe I should confer with Albatross.......

    Al, it's after 9 o'clock..... do you know what you're boy is getting up to?

    He definitely has it in his little head to shoot the moon. I'm not convinced that this bit of showmanship is necessary. Are there no half measures left on the table? I mean, really. I'm just wondering who will be on the cleanup crew. Ron has followed his protocol rather well, up to just about now. Now...... well, he might be getting off the reservation. Just wondering......

    I mean, seriously, who's in charge, here?

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    I thought you were Wink

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    “like the monad which I am, and which is my world.  The mandala represents this monad and corresponds to the microcosmic nature of the soul … Only when I began to paint the mandalas did I see that all the paths I took, all the steps I made, all led back to the one point, that is, to the centre.” - CJ

    If it all leads back to the center and you can recreate the Pleroma from any part, what the heck is all this about?

    I'll tell you my gut feeling, all of this, happened for a reason, duh, see Dan, the PSR.

    What is the point?

    Maybe none, maybe everything, they will never tell us, not until we are on the other side of the rainbow bridge. The Wisdom says, if you are God, be a God, if you are a man, be a man in the middle, if you are a daimon, you serve all of creation. Seems to me that's a tough job.

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