From: Gary
Date: June 23, 2014, 10:25:21 PM EDT
To: Dan
Subject: What exactly is Ron up to in the search for the extraordinary?
I am curious.
Speaking of extraordinary beings and God, I did notice that SKorea idol Ryu Sera was reading this book while on location shooting a music video.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Lovesick-God-Answering-Longings/dp/0768439795
Gary,
You are showing clear signs of attending to a personal creator. You may feel embarrassed about coming out of the closet of your formerly impersonal cosmology. Yes, you used to beat your chest in defense of your modern macho materialism/physicalism. It may fool yourself and the world, but it doesn't fool me.
My sister, Louise, used to rail against the christian 'sheeple'. And Cy does, too, we may assume, when not in plain sight.
Well, I do believe that we must stoop to conquer, and that we cannot be leaders without also being followers.
IMHO, denying God makes even less sense than denying one's parents. And, no, you cannot be fully human without being of woman born. Can you, Gary?
IMHO, non-christians simply wish to deny their own humanity. It is just that simple.
Now, Gary, back to your representational informationalism........
All the informationalists that I am aware of, other than possibly yourself, follow the dictum of 'it from bit'.
With your would-be representationalism, you are inverting that ontology by saying 'bit from it'.
No??
From: Dan
Date: June 24, 2014, 12:03:04 PM EDT
To: Chris
Cc: Ron, Princess Aliyah
Subject: Re: Extraordinary Beings
Ok, let's try this.......
The CTMU is anthropo-, geo-, theo-, Christocentric, 'by default'. Full stop.....??
Where is the courage of your convictions, Chris?
Is this the best possible world or not? Is God hedging his bets? Are you?
WWGD? WWJD? They would not hedge their bets, would they?
When you were a bouncer, did you ask your (inebriated) patrons to engage in what-if scenarios, or did you duck-walk them to the nearest exit?
I need you, and so does God, IMHO. Do you doubt your own significance within the cosmic schema? If you have something of significance to impart to the world, do you truly suppose that God would allow the Harvard Board of Overseers to grind you down?
The only God I know, gave his full measure without flinching. Can we afford to do less?
cc: (my responses only) OMF
12:30--------
The only remaining question is whether or not we have reached an historical juncture, quite possibly a juncture of biblical proportions.
Suppose not.......
Then you and I are premature. But then we must ask ourselves, is it better to have failed at something that will eventually succeed, or to have succeeded at something that will eventually fail?
And there is another way to ask this same question......
Is it better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all?
Has anyone ever truly wondered? Have you?
IMHO, only Christians can truly comprehend these questions.
Others? They have to struggle. Mightily. God, shed your grace upon them.
I have suggested to Ron that we need another board meeting. This would be the board of the KWF.
This cannot occur until August or September.
There continues to be a question of priorities. Do we have time to save Kashmir without having established a plan for saving the world?
I suggest not. I suggest a parallel course, a course that will not disrupt our respective abodes. Is this asking too much? WWJD? Bring a sword, or beat the swords into plough shares? It is not a trivial question.
From: Gary
Date: June 24, 2014, 3:04:16 PM EDT
To: "Dan T. Smith"
Subject: Question
Is Ron interested in recruitment opportunities for extraordinary activities for a BPW?
Of course. Just don't expect to get paid, and don't call, if you get in trouble.
From: Dan Smith
Date: June 24, 2014, 5:10:55 PM EDT
To: Chris L
Cc: Ron, Princess Aliyah
Subject: Re: Extraordinary Beings
Is there anything in the following line of reasoning that might be viewed as rocket science....?
Given that there is a coherent source of creation, is there any reason to suppose that there would be more than one self-contained creation?
If so, what would that number be, coherently speaking?
The lack of any reasonable answer should not come as a surprise.
OTOH, should not the singularity of the Creator be reflected in the singularity of the Creation?
Could Leibniz have seriously gotten this wrong?
And do you not have a serious clue as to the human significance of this cosmogonic question?
God the hedger? God has been ascribed many attributes in the course of history, but until now, never this one. Does it not call for discussion?
Einstein suggested that God does not play dice. I suggest that the only thing that God cannot do, is play dice. But he so much wanted to, even by proxy, that he sent his son to encourage the centurions to do so. This is my attempt at gallows humor.
(cont.)
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