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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin
With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
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"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Rue she said Protection
Rooster's Crow Confusion
One thing else to end the deed --
A dog with no Illusion.
~ Walter Wangerin Jr., Book of the Dun Cow
Gotta love the 10 foot tall wall they put up around the Federal Reserve in Washington DC circa Sunday the 6th of November.
And 'the rider of the apocalypse' USS Rhode Island has entered the Mediterranean sea.
....
Two infested twisted sisters:
DHS plans to target inaccurate information on'the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic and the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines, racial justice, U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the nature of U.S. support to Ukraine.' https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/
Exclusive: State Dept. gives law enforcement, intelligence agencies unrestricted access to Americans' personal data.'The Department has voluntarily taken on this role, and in doing so, prioritized the interests of other agencies over those of law-abiding https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-state-dept-gives-law-enforcement-intelligence-agencies-unrestricted-access-to-americans-personal-data-020409616.html?guccounter=1
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From America's "stonehenge" commandments to now this: Religious leaders gather in Sinai to receive 'Climate Justice Ten Commandments':Some 40,000 attendees have flocked to the Sinai Desert including over 100 world leaders as well as leaders in business and other sectors. Christian, Muslim, Jewish, https://israel365news.com/358681/religious-leaders-gather-in-sinai-to-receive-climate-justice-ten-commandments/
We may have gotten the physical evidence of genocidal New World Order torn down but the perps are not halted.
And 'the rider of the apocalypse' USS Rhode Island has entered the Mediterranean sea.
....
Two infested twisted sisters:
DHS plans to target inaccurate information on'the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic and the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines, racial justice, U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the nature of U.S. support to Ukraine.' https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/
Exclusive: State Dept. gives law enforcement, intelligence agencies unrestricted access to Americans' personal data.'The Department has voluntarily taken on this role, and in doing so, prioritized the interests of other agencies over those of law-abiding https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-state-dept-gives-law-enforcement-intelligence-agencies-unrestricted-access-to-americans-personal-data-020409616.html?guccounter=1
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From America's "stonehenge" commandments to now this: Religious leaders gather in Sinai to receive 'Climate Justice Ten Commandments':Some 40,000 attendees have flocked to the Sinai Desert including over 100 world leaders as well as leaders in business and other sectors. Christian, Muslim, Jewish, https://israel365news.com/358681/religious-leaders-gather-in-sinai-to-receive-climate-justice-ten-commandments/
We may have gotten the physical evidence of genocidal New World Order torn down but the perps are not halted.
C.S. Lewis - The Abolition of Man
The Abolition of Man – C. S. Lewis Archive (cslewis.ca)
http://cslewis.ca/the-abolition-of-man/
The Abolition of Man – C. S. Lewis Archive (cslewis.ca)
http://cslewis.ca/the-abolition-of-man/
MSN
Scientists Preparing for Alien Contact (msn.com)
"Science fiction is awash with explorations of the impact on human society following discovery of, and even encounters with, life or intelligence elsewhere," said John Elliott, coordinator of the hub at the University of St Andrews, in a statement.
"But we need to go beyond thinking about the impact on humanity," he added. "We need to coordinate our expert knowledge not only for assessing the evidence but also for considering the human social response, as our understanding progresses and what we know and what we don’t know is communicated."
and a bit more:
The new Scottish hub's purpose is to fill a policy gap by coming up with internationally agreed-upon procedures in case we ever make contact
Scientists Preparing for Alien Contact (msn.com)
"Science fiction is awash with explorations of the impact on human society following discovery of, and even encounters with, life or intelligence elsewhere," said John Elliott, coordinator of the hub at the University of St Andrews, in a statement.
"But we need to go beyond thinking about the impact on humanity," he added. "We need to coordinate our expert knowledge not only for assessing the evidence but also for considering the human social response, as our understanding progresses and what we know and what we don’t know is communicated."
and a bit more:
[size=30]Alien Conduct[/size]
Earlier this year, NASA scientists updated a new message to beam out to any potentially intelligent life in the cosmos. But what would we do if they were to actually reply?The new Scottish hub's purpose is to fill a policy gap by coming up with internationally agreed-upon procedures in case we ever make contact
Busted. There is currently no declaration of war against Russia from US Congress. Illegal presence. Violation of US National Security endangering CONUS.
Hal Turner Radio Show - American Soldiers Found in Kherson - Video!
"If Russia can show that American soldiers have invaded Russia territory, that makes American territory subject to Russian attack. It's that simple." Hal Turner.
Hal Turner Radio Show - American Soldiers Found in Kherson - Video!
"If Russia can show that American soldiers have invaded Russia territory, that makes American territory subject to Russian attack. It's that simple." Hal Turner.
Quayle's network wrote:BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU BITE INTO! REPORTS OF OLD AND MOLDY FOOD,REPACKAGED,WITH NEW EXPIRATION DATES,REPORTED ARE COMING IN FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY-ALWAYS BREAK OPEN AND SMELL FIRST-
Dear Steve,
Some of the bread, hamburger buns, different foods, even cheese now are moldy. I just threw out new food that I bought from the 'REDACTED' in Clarinda Iowa. The mold was not visible through the package. The package looked new, the dates were good dates, but the food inside was moldy. When I fixed something to eat and bit into it, it tasted weird! Wondered what it was. Each individual food had the same weird taste. Got to looking at it and saw that I had already eaten a big bite of moldy food! I threw a lot of food out. It was awful!
Then was talking with a friend and she told that she had done the same thing. Threw out her bread. She had bought 2 loaves of bread, got home and discovered they were moldy. It’s not just the bread, but different foods. Oh this is awful! The prices have gone up so much and we are throwing it away just like that. Her and her husband have been badly sick for the last two to three weeks even.
You know, I bet it’s not just t REDACTED Store only that is selling moldy food, but it’s all over the country.
T.Nov 12, 2022
Consumers need to be watchful for this and work with their grocers in investigating where it's coming from. Grocers order from suppliers. They don't package the food to sell.
So it needs to be tracked back and the grocers will have records of where each product was ordered from.
Cyrellys wrote:Thank you 99 and Ack for keeping us up to date on our Dan.
We hope everything turns out ok and pray he makes a recovery that doesn't leave him maimed or altered beyond our recognition.
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I'm with Ack on the "individual being sovereign" ranking higher than the group. The purpose or intent of that is so that the individual willingly comes to the table of the compact people make among themselves to produce a real and meaningful civilization. This is what nature's law/natural law does for us and supporrts for everyone. The rights upheld give us the spiritual, social, and mechanical abilities to create and uphold the compact of a civilization.
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As far as this forum goes, because I sense some have wondered even where nothing was asked about it. If Dan were never to return to participate, that will not cause this forum to cease or be shut down. If anything ever happened to me, the same would be true.
My backup for if anything ever happened to me is for my clann's planned future Ollamh Mor Emrys Geibhendach to take the stewardship of Lead Admin. In this case not only him but 99 would be elevated to Admin to teach and assist him as he grows into those shoes. He's currently 16 which is a huge part why I would hope 99 would not say "no" to taking up a joint Admin position if it were to come to it. She and Emrys are already written into my WILL on that.
99 has demonstrated an even hand, a thoughtful mind and good judgment even under fire. This is why. I think in the case of something catastrophic I could trust her judgment, skill, and teamwork. She already sets a very good example to learn from where it comes to leadership and participation and I believe Emrys could learn alot from her. Right now he's young and very opinionated. He's a conservative and quick to explain his knowledge and thinking. I have yet to bring him onto the forum as there is not yet a good reason for him to be here and he's busy on his own explorations right now...but that is the plan.
Cy
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Provinance: The list of World Economic Forum summit attendees has been leaked - LifeSite (lifesitenews.com)
Attendee List as of 01/11/2023: Redactedweffinaldavos2023.pdf (lifesitenews.com)
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Provinance: The list of World Economic Forum summit attendees has been leaked - LifeSite (lifesitenews.com)
Attendee List as of 01/11/2023: Redactedweffinaldavos2023.pdf (lifesitenews.com)
Switzerland to Deploy 5,000 Army Troops to protect World Economic Forum Meeting in Davos:Zelensky will also speak at the World Economic Forum’s Davos meeting alongside CNN anchors and NATO chiefs. Breaking: Davos 2023 Guest List Leaked, Globalists Preparing Final Phase of Great Reset Takeover:FBI director Chris Wray, the CEOs of Amazon, BlackRock, and Pfizer, top officials in the Gates Foundation and Soros network, The N.Y. Times and NBC Universal. BILL GATES ATTENDING WEF. Bill Gates Vows To Pump mRNA Into Food Supply To ‘Force-Jab’ the Unvaccinated----Rather than admitting that humanity has woken up to the truth about the disastrous experimental Covid-19 jabs |
Great posts Cyrellys. I helped save several desperate strangers with Ivermectin. Dr David Martin was also on to the covid business con from the start.
I was vaccinated with the amazing mRNA vaccines and boosters.
No side effects.
Never had Covid once.
I also saved several people getting them vaccinated.
mRNA is incredible technology.
Science is wonderful for things like this.
Thank your lucky stars for smallpox and polio vaccines and all the others.
If 98 out of 100 Doctors said do this, not this.
I’m going with the 98 Doctors.
Politics should have nothing to do with vaccines and masks.
It’s not a rights issue.
Better safe than sorry.
Common sense.
No side effects.
Never had Covid once.
I also saved several people getting them vaccinated.
mRNA is incredible technology.
Science is wonderful for things like this.
Thank your lucky stars for smallpox and polio vaccines and all the others.
If 98 out of 100 Doctors said do this, not this.
I’m going with the 98 Doctors.
Politics should have nothing to do with vaccines and masks.
It’s not a rights issue.
Better safe than sorry.
Common sense.
Smelly El Chivo wrote:I was vaccinated with the amazing mRNA vaccines and boosters.
No side effects.
Never had Covid once.
I also saved several people getting them vaccinated.
mRNA is incredible technology.
Science is wonderful for things like this.
Thank your lucky stars for smallpox and polio vaccines and all the others.
If 98 out of 100 Doctors said do this, not this.
I’m going with the 98 Doctors.
Politics should have nothing to do with vaccines and masks.
It’s not a rights issue.
Better safe than sorry.
Common sense.
Wetiko,
Your mind is obviously affected by these injections that are not vaccines.
Damage to the brain....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZhzWzoPB3M
hobbit
Naaa
I’m not a conspiracy junky like so many infected with wetiko.
Poor muppets.
Love is my wetiko vaccine.
My mind has never been sharper and the heart never more open.
Those that fear, suspect, and doubt are the infected ones.
Wetiko is a disease of the soul and robs one of hope and joy as it takes hold.
Last I checked, my cup is overflowing.
Enjoy every sandwich.
I’m not a conspiracy junky like so many infected with wetiko.
Poor muppets.
Love is my wetiko vaccine.
My mind has never been sharper and the heart never more open.
Those that fear, suspect, and doubt are the infected ones.
Wetiko is a disease of the soul and robs one of hope and joy as it takes hold.
Last I checked, my cup is overflowing.
Enjoy every sandwich.
Smelly El Chivo wrote:Naaa
I’m not a conspiracy junky like so many infected with wetiko.
Poor muppets.
Love is my wetiko vaccine.
My mind has never been sharper and the heart never more open.
Those that fear, suspect, and doubt are the infected ones.
Wetiko is a disease of the soul and robs one of hope and joy as it takes hold.
Really glad You are doing fine most respected one.
Ever so many are not.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2YGdDbZpSg
Genocide is another word I would add, been a conspiracy theory junkie that I am proud to be, as well as been pure blood hobbit with none of that shit injected into Me
Last I checked, my cup is overflowing.
Enjoy every sandwich.
There is a better way.
Smelly El Chivo wrote:There is a better way.
There are worse ways now been repeated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjAKNaKwBfI
I trust to My senses and instincts, and fear nothing or nobody.
Hobbit ( not falling for propaganda ever again)
See, you have that wetiko negativity messin with ya.
Go make and enjoy a great sandwich 🥪
All is well.
Go make and enjoy a great sandwich 🥪
All is well.
Smelly El Chivo wrote:See, you have that wetiko negativity messin with ya.
Go make and enjoy a great sandwich 🥪
All is well.
No I do not, the "messin" is with those who have allowed poisons to be injected into them, listen to the figures by the insurance companies on predicted mortality relative to injections.
I know better than most that there is no death, but My children and grand children are systematically been murdered, and this hobbit is now well pissed off.
I KNEW all along what was been undertaken and begged them to listen to Me, but no they bought the cool aid shit , this is genocide beyond anything ever known before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hdfcrn2ko0
This is a real human being, and He took the shit injections, but is now revealing the truth, and My weird senses focus upon north Carolina.
hobbit
Naaa, you got it all wrong friend.
Be well.
Be well.
Smelly El Chivo wrote:Naaa, you got it all wrong friend.
Be well.
No I have not, really wish I was wrong, I have KNOWN all along the agenda/s behind this genocide, and the numbers will rise and rise due to billions of humans immune system been weakened ( I am able to detect the field strength about any living entity)
You and many others are strong enough ( field strength) to somewhat cope, but will still be affected earlier in Your life spans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPHJ0rw0gdU
Number crunchers are accountants, there is a lot of murderers to face the ultimate account.
hobbit
You are
No genocide here.
Joy.
No genocide here.
Joy.
Smelly El Chivo wrote:You are
No genocide here.
Joy.
Perhaps, just perhaps You need to read the messages been released about the British governments antics when the so called covid panic was rampant, it was all lies.
It is all about genocide and the depopulation AGENDA.
These are control freaks , and the GATES of hell have been lubricated open with dollars.
Hobbit
Evidence Dates To 2011 The mRNA Vax Was A Bioweapon Created By DARPA And The DOD, Who Used COVID To Scare The Masses Into Taking It To Carry Out Depopulation And Genocidal Warfare
Sudden Death Epidemic Explodes Across America As Doctor Bluntly Warns: 'The Greatest Perpetrator Of Misinformation During The Pandemic Has Been The United States Government'
Gates Foundation Insider Admits Covid Vaccines Are ‘Abortion Drugs’ To Depopulate the World,according to a Gates Foundation insider who has admitted that Bill Gates’ vaccine trials, were trial runs for the mRNA vaccine roll-out in the Western world.
Sudden Death Epidemic Explodes Across America As Doctor Bluntly Warns: 'The Greatest Perpetrator Of Misinformation During The Pandemic Has Been The United States Government'
Gates Foundation Insider Admits Covid Vaccines Are ‘Abortion Drugs’ To Depopulate the World,according to a Gates Foundation insider who has admitted that Bill Gates’ vaccine trials, were trial runs for the mRNA vaccine roll-out in the Western world.
Genocide/Depopulation, and Sterilization/Abortion. Population Stabilization if anyone remembers years ago when I was trying to explain to everyone a very viral ideology among the elites. There's a 'hot' (war terminology) version and a 'cold' version.
Social Engineering turning normal males & females into opposites is the cold version...because LGBTQ types don't reproduce. They might adopt but don't contribute to the general population, becoming genetic dead ends.
lethal and semi-lethal vaccines that turn off the God (Epiphany) Gene, sterilize, cause shortened lifespans due to degradation of organs, abort pregnancies, and cause damage to heart and vascular system are HOT versions.
Both are crimes against humanity. Both violate cosmic rules against genocide disqualifying humans for inclusion in the "Greater Community"...but then that was intended was it not? If the Elites cannot have their new fangled 'live-forever' tech, are trapped here on Earth with no option to leave, are having their adrenochrome stripped from them, then is stands to reason attacking the general population and even nuclear war is then a viable option.
See todays posts at my SpincycleMT Twitter acct.
Gates Foundation Insider Admits Covid Vaccines Are ‘Abortion Drugs’ To Depopulate the World,according to a Gates Foundation insider who has admitted that Bill Gates’ vaccine trials, were trial runs for the mRNA vaccine roll-out in the Western world.
Living In An Era Of Mass Extermination By Pharmaceuticals And Industrial 'Accidents' Releasing Chemical Warfare Toxins Upon Americans, Globalists Burn It All Down In Rush To World Tyranny
Genocide Expert Warns Forced Vaxxes And Lockdowns May Be Only Months Away After Biden Signs Away America's Sovereignty And The WHO Imposes Planetwide Medical Tyranny - Americans SHOULD BE Enraged! Did We Just Start A Revolution?
U.S. Deploys 'Doomsday Plane'to Europe; Russia issues 'Nuclear Clash' warning to its military:Given the possible relocation of US Officials to nuclear bunkers, and the deployment of a US E-6B "Doomsday Plane" to Europe, this coming week seems primed for t
Watch: Samantha Power Lets Slip The US Is At War With Russia, But 'Ukrainians Doing The Fighting' 'What vital interest does to the US have in Ukraine?
Social Engineering turning normal males & females into opposites is the cold version...because LGBTQ types don't reproduce. They might adopt but don't contribute to the general population, becoming genetic dead ends.
lethal and semi-lethal vaccines that turn off the God (Epiphany) Gene, sterilize, cause shortened lifespans due to degradation of organs, abort pregnancies, and cause damage to heart and vascular system are HOT versions.
Both are crimes against humanity. Both violate cosmic rules against genocide disqualifying humans for inclusion in the "Greater Community"...but then that was intended was it not? If the Elites cannot have their new fangled 'live-forever' tech, are trapped here on Earth with no option to leave, are having their adrenochrome stripped from them, then is stands to reason attacking the general population and even nuclear war is then a viable option.
See todays posts at my SpincycleMT Twitter acct.
Gates Foundation Insider Admits Covid Vaccines Are ‘Abortion Drugs’ To Depopulate the World,according to a Gates Foundation insider who has admitted that Bill Gates’ vaccine trials, were trial runs for the mRNA vaccine roll-out in the Western world.
Living In An Era Of Mass Extermination By Pharmaceuticals And Industrial 'Accidents' Releasing Chemical Warfare Toxins Upon Americans, Globalists Burn It All Down In Rush To World Tyranny
Genocide Expert Warns Forced Vaxxes And Lockdowns May Be Only Months Away After Biden Signs Away America's Sovereignty And The WHO Imposes Planetwide Medical Tyranny - Americans SHOULD BE Enraged! Did We Just Start A Revolution?
U.S. Deploys 'Doomsday Plane'to Europe; Russia issues 'Nuclear Clash' warning to its military:Given the possible relocation of US Officials to nuclear bunkers, and the deployment of a US E-6B "Doomsday Plane" to Europe, this coming week seems primed for t
Watch: Samantha Power Lets Slip The US Is At War With Russia, But 'Ukrainians Doing The Fighting' 'What vital interest does to the US have in Ukraine?
Cyrellys,
You are class.
Hobbit
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