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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin
With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
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Rue she said Protection
Rooster's Crow Confusion
One thing else to end the deed --
A dog with no Illusion.
~ Walter Wangerin Jr., Book of the Dun Cow
Oh my! Can we say "intent to steal another election"?
EXCLUSIVE: Clinton-Appointed Federal Judge Bars Arizona Officials From Enforcing New Law To Remove Dead Voters, Nonresidents, And Non-Citizens From Voter Rolls https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/exclusive-clinton-appointed-federal-judge-bars-arizona-officials-enforcing-new-law-remove-dead-voters-nonresidents-non-citizens-voter-rolls/
and
QUOTE Gateway Pundit:
meanwhile:
Medical Homicide Maybe Even Murder
and then there is this...
EXCLUSIVE: Clinton-Appointed Federal Judge Bars Arizona Officials From Enforcing New Law To Remove Dead Voters, Nonresidents, And Non-Citizens From Voter Rolls https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/exclusive-clinton-appointed-federal-judge-bars-arizona-officials-enforcing-new-law-remove-dead-voters-nonresidents-non-citizens-voter-rolls/
and
QUOTE Gateway Pundit:
Gateway Pundit wrote:The Gateway Pundit also reported extensively on the Arizona 2020 election audit, which discovered massive election law violations and hundreds of thousands of illegal or fraudulent ballots in the 2020 Presidential Election.
This is another attempt by the Democrats to steal elections through dirty voter rolls and mass mail-in ballots.
meanwhile:
Medical Homicide Maybe Even Murder
and then there is this...
(1) Benny Johnson on Twitter: "Did Hillary Clinton just compare "MAGA Americans" to the AL-QAEDA on live TV?! Unhinged Hillary leaves everyone STUNNED https://t.co/JSEA7xdr94" / Twitter
West considers arming Ukraine with more potent weapons – FT Washington and its allies are discussing whether to provide fighter jets to Kiev in the future, the newspaper reported
'Putin must be feeling pressure to do something dramatic - possibly nuclear': US general issues stark warning after former NATO chief also voiced fears Vladimir is prepared to do the unthinkable SQ; WASHINGTON MAKES WAR ON GOD-MEDVEDEV QUOTES REVELATION!
Medvedev issues apocalyptic warning to West over Ukraine The former Russian president used a Book of Revelation quote to comment on 'Kiev Security Treaty; demands:Their people will harvest their grief in full. The land will be on fire and the concrete wi |
West considers arming Ukraine with more potent weapons – FT Washington and its allies are discussing whether to provide fighter jets to Kiev in the future, the newspaper reported
'Putin must be feeling pressure to do something dramatic - possibly nuclear': US general issues stark warning after former NATO chief also voiced fears Vladimir is prepared to do the unthinkable SQ; WASHINGTON MAKES WAR ON GOD-MEDVEDEV QUOTES REVELATION!
TODAY:
Hal Turner Radio Show - BREAKING NEWS: TURKEY MOBILIZING 45,000 RESERVE TROOPS TOWARD ARMENIA BORDER; IRAN MOBILIZING ARMY WITH HEAVY ARMOR TO SAME AREA
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FROM EMAIL
MOFOS! I knew it, bad vibes from all this shit...from Bill Gates getting kicked out of the Ukraine (booted from the Ukr. development board). Wonder how many of these dudes are descendants of Paperclip Nazis infiltrated into America postwar. You might contact former US Special Agent, John Loftus who has written extensively about Ukr links to Nazis and the US.
Thanks,
Quintus
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 12:49:30 PM MDT, DF wrote:
We can get a rough idea of the US political elites’ involvement in the military biological activity in Ukraine if we rely on open sources as well as leaked documents. Below is an attempt to reconstruct the chronology of this involvement, though not a comprehensive one. There are many gaps in this truly diabolical plan that are still to be filled.
1991 – the US launches the Nunn-Lugar programme for the former Soviet countries to control/eliminate Soviet weapons of mass destruction including bioweapons. The Pentagon's Defence Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) was named as the programme’s main executor.
1993 – the Ukraine-US Agreement on the Prevention of Proliferation of WMD is signed.
2005 – an additional protocol is signed to the agreement between the Ukrainian Health Ministry and the DTRA on the prevention of the proliferation of technologies, pathogens and know-how that can be used to develop bioweapons. This is the start of the transfer of the Ukrainian military biological potential into US specialists' hands.
2000s – large US military-industrial companies are engaged in military biological activity in Ukraine.
2005-2014 – Black & Veatch Special Projects, a DTRA contractor, builds and upgrades 8 biolabs in Ukraine instead of eliminating military biological infrastructure, as was originally claimed. One of the facilities, a biolab in Odessa, has been financed since 2011 for the study of “pathogens that can be used in bioterrorism attacks.”
2007 – US DoD employee Nathan Wolfe founded Global Viral Forecasting Institute (subsequently - Global Viral), a biomedical company. The mission stated in the charter is non-commercial study of transborder infections, including in China.
2009 – Rosemont Seneca Partners is established by former US Secretary of State John Kerry’ stepson Christopher Heinz and incumbent US President Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden.
2014 – anti-constitutional coup d’etat in Ukraine.
2014 – Hunter Biden joins the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company.
2014 – Metabiota, a private commercial organisation specialising in the study of pandemic risks is detached from Global Viral. Neil Callahan and John DeLoche, employees of Hunter Biden’s company Rosemont Seneca Partners are appointed to the board of Metabiota. Global Viral and Metabiota begin to get funding from the US Department of Defence.
2014 - Metabiota shows interest in Ukraine and invites Hunter Biden to "assert Ukraine's cultural & economic independence from Russia".
2014 - Metabiota and Burisma Holdings begin cooperation on an unnamed "science project in Ukraine".
2014 - Metabiota, Global Viral and Black & Veatch Special Projects begin full-fledged cooperation within the US DoD programmes.
2014-2016 - Implementation of Metabiota and US DoD contracts, including a $300,000 project in Ukraine.
2016 – US citizen Ulana Nadia Suprun, a descendant of Ukrainian Nazis, is appointed Acting Health Minister of Ukraine. The US DoD and Ukraine’s Health Ministry cooperation programme is greatly expanded.
2016 – an outbreak of swine flu among Ukrainian Defence Ministry personnel guarding a biolab in Kharkov, Ukraine; 20 dead.
2016 – former US Assistant Secretary for Defence Andrew Weber is appointed head of Metabiota’s global partnerships department.
2016 – EcoHealth Alliance, a Global Viral founder Nathan Wolfe’s structure, is engaged in the study of bat-transmitted coronaviruses at the Wuhan laboratory, China.
2016 – the DTRA and Ukraine’s Health Ministry extend the contract after getting approval from the Ukrainian Defence Ministry.
2019 – the COVID-19 mutated bat coronavirus pandemic begins with an outbreak in Wuhan.
February 24, 2022 – launch of the Russian Operation Z in Ukraine.
February 24-25, 2022 – rapid elimination of strains in biolabs in Ukraine.
March 8, 2022 – US Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland openly acknowledges the existence of US funded bioresearch centres.
SO WHAT DOES YOUR CONSCIENCE TELL YOU ?
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For anyone not familiar with John Loftus
John Loftus (author) - Wikipedia
America's Nazi Secret: An Insider's History: Loftus, John: 9781936296040: Amazon.com: Books
Cold War Cited In Letter to INS - The Washington Post
Nazis in Ukraine: Seeing through the fog of the information war – Liberation News
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Hal Turner Radio Show - BREAKING NEWS: TURKEY MOBILIZING 45,000 RESERVE TROOPS TOWARD ARMENIA BORDER; IRAN MOBILIZING ARMY WITH HEAVY ARMOR TO SAME AREA
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FROM EMAIL
Re: TIMELINES ARE THE BEST EVIDENCE
MOFOS! I knew it, bad vibes from all this shit...from Bill Gates getting kicked out of the Ukraine (booted from the Ukr. development board). Wonder how many of these dudes are descendants of Paperclip Nazis infiltrated into America postwar. You might contact former US Special Agent, John Loftus who has written extensively about Ukr links to Nazis and the US.
Thanks,
Quintus
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 12:49:30 PM MDT, DF wrote:
We can get a rough idea of the US political elites’ involvement in the military biological activity in Ukraine if we rely on open sources as well as leaked documents. Below is an attempt to reconstruct the chronology of this involvement, though not a comprehensive one. There are many gaps in this truly diabolical plan that are still to be filled.
1991 – the US launches the Nunn-Lugar programme for the former Soviet countries to control/eliminate Soviet weapons of mass destruction including bioweapons. The Pentagon's Defence Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) was named as the programme’s main executor.
1993 – the Ukraine-US Agreement on the Prevention of Proliferation of WMD is signed.
2005 – an additional protocol is signed to the agreement between the Ukrainian Health Ministry and the DTRA on the prevention of the proliferation of technologies, pathogens and know-how that can be used to develop bioweapons. This is the start of the transfer of the Ukrainian military biological potential into US specialists' hands.
2000s – large US military-industrial companies are engaged in military biological activity in Ukraine.
2005-2014 – Black & Veatch Special Projects, a DTRA contractor, builds and upgrades 8 biolabs in Ukraine instead of eliminating military biological infrastructure, as was originally claimed. One of the facilities, a biolab in Odessa, has been financed since 2011 for the study of “pathogens that can be used in bioterrorism attacks.”
2007 – US DoD employee Nathan Wolfe founded Global Viral Forecasting Institute (subsequently - Global Viral), a biomedical company. The mission stated in the charter is non-commercial study of transborder infections, including in China.
2009 – Rosemont Seneca Partners is established by former US Secretary of State John Kerry’ stepson Christopher Heinz and incumbent US President Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden.
2014 – anti-constitutional coup d’etat in Ukraine.
2014 – Hunter Biden joins the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company.
2014 – Metabiota, a private commercial organisation specialising in the study of pandemic risks is detached from Global Viral. Neil Callahan and John DeLoche, employees of Hunter Biden’s company Rosemont Seneca Partners are appointed to the board of Metabiota. Global Viral and Metabiota begin to get funding from the US Department of Defence.
2014 - Metabiota shows interest in Ukraine and invites Hunter Biden to "assert Ukraine's cultural & economic independence from Russia".
2014 - Metabiota and Burisma Holdings begin cooperation on an unnamed "science project in Ukraine".
2014 - Metabiota, Global Viral and Black & Veatch Special Projects begin full-fledged cooperation within the US DoD programmes.
2014-2016 - Implementation of Metabiota and US DoD contracts, including a $300,000 project in Ukraine.
2016 – US citizen Ulana Nadia Suprun, a descendant of Ukrainian Nazis, is appointed Acting Health Minister of Ukraine. The US DoD and Ukraine’s Health Ministry cooperation programme is greatly expanded.
2016 – an outbreak of swine flu among Ukrainian Defence Ministry personnel guarding a biolab in Kharkov, Ukraine; 20 dead.
2016 – former US Assistant Secretary for Defence Andrew Weber is appointed head of Metabiota’s global partnerships department.
2016 – EcoHealth Alliance, a Global Viral founder Nathan Wolfe’s structure, is engaged in the study of bat-transmitted coronaviruses at the Wuhan laboratory, China.
2016 – the DTRA and Ukraine’s Health Ministry extend the contract after getting approval from the Ukrainian Defence Ministry.
2019 – the COVID-19 mutated bat coronavirus pandemic begins with an outbreak in Wuhan.
February 24, 2022 – launch of the Russian Operation Z in Ukraine.
February 24-25, 2022 – rapid elimination of strains in biolabs in Ukraine.
March 8, 2022 – US Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland openly acknowledges the existence of US funded bioresearch centres.
SO WHAT DOES YOUR CONSCIENCE TELL YOU ?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
For anyone not familiar with John Loftus
John Loftus (author) - Wikipedia
America's Nazi Secret: An Insider's History: Loftus, John: 9781936296040: Amazon.com: Books
Cold War Cited In Letter to INS - The Washington Post
Nazis in Ukraine: Seeing through the fog of the information war – Liberation News
[/ltr]
Speaking of highly strange phenomena.
Last night my husband came running into the living room swearing the toilet was smoking...
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SMOKING GUN! Alleged RAND Corporation Leaked Document Written BEFORE Ukraine War Shows U.S. Planned the European Energy Crisis and Economic Collapse to Save the U.S. Economy
read://https_healthimpactnews.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhealthimpactnews.com%2F2022%2Fsmoking-gun-alleged-rand-corporation-leaked-document-written-before-ukraine-war-shows-u-s-planned-the-european-energy-crisis-and-economic-collapse-to-save-the-u-s-economy%2F
Here's the document in question: rand-corporation-ukraina-energikris.pdf (healthimpactnews.com)
I have archived it offline.
Last night my husband came running into the living room swearing the toilet was smoking...
+++++++++++++++++++++++
SMOKING GUN! Alleged RAND Corporation Leaked Document Written BEFORE Ukraine War Shows U.S. Planned the European Energy Crisis and Economic Collapse to Save the U.S. Economy
read://https_healthimpactnews.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhealthimpactnews.com%2F2022%2Fsmoking-gun-alleged-rand-corporation-leaked-document-written-before-ukraine-war-shows-u-s-planned-the-european-energy-crisis-and-economic-collapse-to-save-the-u-s-economy%2F
Here's the document in question: rand-corporation-ukraina-energikris.pdf (healthimpactnews.com)
I have archived it offline.
You want to see disconnect? you want to see weird? How about rift?
Compare the tweets of the Department of Defenses vs MrAndyNgo
Read down the list of both. Get my point?
If you're too oblivious to see what I'm saying, you're hopeless and get off my blog. You can't be led to water because you haven't even achieved the state of being a horse you freaking cockroach.
[when you, the author, rag out the unseen guy you can "hear" in the woodwork, asking someone else a stupid question espousing preset judgment about the content here on this thread]
Compare the tweets of the Department of Defenses vs MrAndyNgo
Read down the list of both. Get my point?
If you're too oblivious to see what I'm saying, you're hopeless and get off my blog. You can't be led to water because you haven't even achieved the state of being a horse you freaking cockroach.
[when you, the author, rag out the unseen guy you can "hear" in the woodwork, asking someone else a stupid question espousing preset judgment about the content here on this thread]
U likes this post
(1071) WARNING TO MY VIEWERS. ALASKA ATTACK. GET READY. ARMY ON HIGH ALERT. - YouTube
(1071) China Russia Vow Cooperation to Take Down Ukraine and Taiwan - YouTube
(1071) China Russia Vow Cooperation to Take Down Ukraine and Taiwan - YouTube
The 24th has come and went. Next.
joseph dunford
Daily update ⋅ September 25, 2022
NEWS
Retired Generals, Admirals Warn Against Trump's Transgender Ban - The Daily Beast
The Daily Beast
Joseph Dunford said last week that the military would not implement the ban until the White House issues official guidance. Read it at The Hill.
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Let me get this straight...
- Globals mandate everyone in the mil get a suicide vax...
- Some nutter in brass has troops in boot marching in skirts and pink high heels (had to hear about THAT from a former NATO guy)
- Obama's admin had the mil hitting civilians with drones
- Globals are using drag queens and transgenders to inculcate American Children into human sex trafficking
- Trump bans transgenders
- Dunford a former patriot says whoa nelly on the ban.
What's wrong with this picture?
Sigh. Suicidal freaking easterners or would you rather just call you lot, FLATLANDERS? and be done with it?
Daily update ⋅ September 25, 2022
NEWS
Retired Generals, Admirals Warn Against Trump's Transgender Ban - The Daily Beast
The Daily Beast
Joseph Dunford said last week that the military would not implement the ban until the White House issues official guidance. Read it at The Hill.
++++++++++
Let me get this straight...
- Globals mandate everyone in the mil get a suicide vax...
- Some nutter in brass has troops in boot marching in skirts and pink high heels (had to hear about THAT from a former NATO guy)
- Obama's admin had the mil hitting civilians with drones
- Globals are using drag queens and transgenders to inculcate American Children into human sex trafficking
- Trump bans transgenders
- Dunford a former patriot says whoa nelly on the ban.
What's wrong with this picture?
Sigh. Suicidal freaking easterners or would you rather just call you lot, FLATLANDERS? and be done with it?
U likes this post
Lol better than having our head in the clouds, but I guess some of us are a little too south to be called Easterners
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Fair enough U. Grin.
I grew up (in the far west) hearing (wide spread sentiment) how if there was someone incredibly stupid and annoying living in your community convince them they would be really successful in govt work. Send them to the east coast to reside with the rest of the freaks and looneys and then it's out of sight out of mind and life can go back to normal.
I never really took that sentiment seriously until the last few years when I've had the impetus to consider a disturbing over abundance of idiocy at the federal level.
One could certainly see a certain consequence involved in a certain feedback loop there if there were any truth to such a sentiment. My parents generation of Americans was the routine source. Americans born during or right after WWII.
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As for the issue wrt Dunford. He's career military. He's never spent a real lick of time (pardon the pun) in places like Seattle or Portland to see for himself what led up to the current rash of transgenderism and all that goes with it. I've seen it first hand. He wouldn't have said as much as he did if he'd seen it first hand. He's insulated and protected, or at least was as a career mil guy. In a safe little cushy world.
I grew up (in the far west) hearing (wide spread sentiment) how if there was someone incredibly stupid and annoying living in your community convince them they would be really successful in govt work. Send them to the east coast to reside with the rest of the freaks and looneys and then it's out of sight out of mind and life can go back to normal.
I never really took that sentiment seriously until the last few years when I've had the impetus to consider a disturbing over abundance of idiocy at the federal level.
One could certainly see a certain consequence involved in a certain feedback loop there if there were any truth to such a sentiment. My parents generation of Americans was the routine source. Americans born during or right after WWII.
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As for the issue wrt Dunford. He's career military. He's never spent a real lick of time (pardon the pun) in places like Seattle or Portland to see for himself what led up to the current rash of transgenderism and all that goes with it. I've seen it first hand. He wouldn't have said as much as he did if he'd seen it first hand. He's insulated and protected, or at least was as a career mil guy. In a safe little cushy world.
U likes this post
Feebs put their foot up their own arse again. They need to be prosecuted for child abuse. What a bunch of imbeciles. My taxes pay for this chit. WTF.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/fbi-swat-raids-home-of-catholic-pro-life-activist-in-front-of-screaming-children/
https://www.infowars.com/posts/fbi-swat-raids-home-of-catholic-pro-life-activist-in-front-of-screaming-children/
U likes this post
Hello WALL, I've come to speak with you again...
URGENT - Russian Gas Pipelines to Germany, BLOWN UP :What was the USS KEARSAGE doing in that area when it shut off its AIS tracking? Planting time-delayed explosives? SQ;RUSSIA KNOWS IT WAS DESTROYED BY THE US>-NOW WHAT? https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/covert-intel-urgent-russian-gas-pipelines-to-germany-blown-up
So we know about the RAND document telling how the creeps in the US fed gov (find link in a previous post) worked to arrange for the proxie war between Russia and NATO over the Ukraine...
And we know the deep state went so far as to kill 3500 Americans in 911 to start a war in the ME to profit off of and build their NWO....
Well now it seems like they're trying to turn Europe into a winter wasteland between no heating and a nuclear exchange probability...
And yet the people of Europe and the people of the US do absolutely jack squat to prevent any of it. Leaves one forced to assume we're supposed to like the idea of a Mad Max lifestyle? Elites should not be allowed to watch or make movies...especially apocalyptic ones.
and then there's the mechanic on youtube who said, "...it was really nice when there was covid because there were no planes flying overhead."
its a subliminal thing I suppose, flowing in an unseen psychological river just below the surface of reason.
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Stupid Twitter. I was so much more obscure on Twitmo. Here, not being limited to a few short words per post, I'm free to layout my criticism of institutionalized insanity and those who embrace it, like my US Navy. Sigh. They've seemingly lost their way and there's not a damn thing I can do about it, other than scream from my tiny rooftop in protest.
Just remember O WALL, I did tell you the comeing horror show was preventable.
It is useless to be a tiered 4D+ thinker when the ability's product falls on deaf ears.
[Cy longing to go fishing again today...I need tags for the boat which means going to town instead]
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UPDATE 1:03 AM 9-28-22
Ukraine accuses Russia of Nord Stream 'terror attack' as gas leaks from 'sabotaged' pipelines send vast rings of churning bubbles up to 3000FT wide to Baltic Sea surface following 'undersea explosions'
and
U.S. Blew Up Russian Gas Pipelines Nord Stream 1 & 2, Says Former Polish Defense Minister Der Spiegel says CIA warned German government of potential sabotage weeks ago
meanwhile here at home:
Bill Gates Makes Concerning Statement About the Election and Civil War Note Gates Assessment'I admit that political polarization may bring it all to an end, we’re going to have a hung election and a civil war,'Notice that’s a declarative statement, not 'I
I went to town last morning...bought the tags and new plates for the trailer. Uncertain if the world will keep it's head screwed on long enough to get my boat in the water for a maiden voyage...still have to service the outboard motor.
Happy birthday Cy, round and round we go.
URGENT - Russian Gas Pipelines to Germany, BLOWN UP :What was the USS KEARSAGE doing in that area when it shut off its AIS tracking? Planting time-delayed explosives? SQ;RUSSIA KNOWS IT WAS DESTROYED BY THE US>-NOW WHAT? https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/covert-intel-urgent-russian-gas-pipelines-to-germany-blown-up
So we know about the RAND document telling how the creeps in the US fed gov (find link in a previous post) worked to arrange for the proxie war between Russia and NATO over the Ukraine...
And we know the deep state went so far as to kill 3500 Americans in 911 to start a war in the ME to profit off of and build their NWO....
Well now it seems like they're trying to turn Europe into a winter wasteland between no heating and a nuclear exchange probability...
And yet the people of Europe and the people of the US do absolutely jack squat to prevent any of it. Leaves one forced to assume we're supposed to like the idea of a Mad Max lifestyle? Elites should not be allowed to watch or make movies...especially apocalyptic ones.
and then there's the mechanic on youtube who said, "...it was really nice when there was covid because there were no planes flying overhead."
its a subliminal thing I suppose, flowing in an unseen psychological river just below the surface of reason.
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Stupid Twitter. I was so much more obscure on Twitmo. Here, not being limited to a few short words per post, I'm free to layout my criticism of institutionalized insanity and those who embrace it, like my US Navy. Sigh. They've seemingly lost their way and there's not a damn thing I can do about it, other than scream from my tiny rooftop in protest.
Just remember O WALL, I did tell you the comeing horror show was preventable.
It is useless to be a tiered 4D+ thinker when the ability's product falls on deaf ears.
[Cy longing to go fishing again today...I need tags for the boat which means going to town instead]
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UPDATE 1:03 AM 9-28-22
Ukraine accuses Russia of Nord Stream 'terror attack' as gas leaks from 'sabotaged' pipelines send vast rings of churning bubbles up to 3000FT wide to Baltic Sea surface following 'undersea explosions'
and
U.S. Blew Up Russian Gas Pipelines Nord Stream 1 & 2, Says Former Polish Defense Minister Der Spiegel says CIA warned German government of potential sabotage weeks ago
meanwhile here at home:
Bill Gates Makes Concerning Statement About the Election and Civil War Note Gates Assessment'I admit that political polarization may bring it all to an end, we’re going to have a hung election and a civil war,'Notice that’s a declarative statement, not 'I
I went to town last morning...bought the tags and new plates for the trailer. Uncertain if the world will keep it's head screwed on long enough to get my boat in the water for a maiden voyage...still have to service the outboard motor.
Happy birthday Cy, round and round we go.
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Title: THE MUSHROOM GROW PROJECT
Assignment: Produce science lab summary report minimum 500 words on the Mushroom Grow Project.
Word Count on Summary Report not including supporting documentation: 592 words 3,688 characters
Summary Report
Suilgrian and I explored the plant physiology and development of the mushroom from the innoculated substrate stage to the adult fruited mushroom at the harvest stage via a grow project that began with a commercial kit purchased on clearance at Walmart. This project was part of our Sophmore High School level Plant Physiology in Biology 102. Our grow project did not produce the expected results of a fully formed adult mushroom achieving harvestable development. We began the project following the enclosed instructions in the "Back to the Roots" Organic Mushroom Grow Kit. The kit was comprised of pre innoculated unspecified type substrate ready for deployment from the early mycelium. Mycelium being the post spore pre pin fungal stage of mushroom life cycle. We assume the substrate was possibly "organic brown rice" as used by Fungi Perfecti, as similar commercial mushroom producer. The instructions directed Suilgrian to soak the substrate in water for 24 hours to initiate development from the Mycelium block stage. After soaking she cut the plastic enclosure on the face in an X to allow breathing of the substrate and access to mist the substrate maintaining growable moisture levels. The project spanned 2 weeks [a full 14 days] see the enclosed reported Timeline of the Project. The project progressed successfully until roughly day 12 of the 14 day period. The pins had emerged and were doubling in size producing a well defined coloy group of mushrooms on the mycelium infused substrate. It was at this point we noted the growth seemed to stall. The growth halted during development of the caps which failed to fully deploy and thus we assume the colony did not produce any spore containing gills or by consequence any spore. The caps remained vertical with dry crispy edges or rims. We attempted to increase the moisture of the colony by increasing frequency of the daily misting. It did not produce a developmental response. At day 16 we halted the project and assessed the overal results. The product never finished the fruiting. Stalks and skirt were never observable within the developing mushroom group although individual mushrooms did become identifiable in the group extending from the mycelium. We surmise a lack of moisture was a contributing if not primary factor. It may have been the soak of the substrate was insufficient and should have been a few hours longer given the substrate block was old (purchased on clearance) at time of purchase. The full list of issues under consideration for the failure of the lifecycle was: inadequate soak period, inadequate misting, too much light in grow area, using old mycelium from a product that was on clearance when purchased. The limitations of the biochemical post lab project research options prevented us from clearly discerning the cause beyond a logical surmise. We did not : remove the plastic to inspect the innoculated block of substrate for dryness post project; investigate substrate ph; explore presence or quantities of formative nutrients (soil analysis of substrate) in the substrate such as potassium, phosphorus, calcium, magnesium, and iron; follow northspore dot com's suggestions for encouraging new or fresh fruitings. Investigating the substrate ph and presence of the formative nutrients was not an option due to lack of biochemical test kits. The final takeaway from the project allowed us to see how a grow out could be imperfect and to consider factors that may be important to the nutrician and health of the mushroom lifecycle. This implies there is benefits to imperfect conditions revealing the unseen factors that would not otherwise come under consideration.
Timeline of Project
Project Intent: Learn and experience growing mushrooms from the mycelium stage as part of studying plant physiology and development.
Sept 8 Obtained product Mycelium innoculated substrate from a company named "Back to the Roots". Type of substrate was not specified. Assumed it was possibly "organic brown rice" as used by Fungi Perfecti, as similar commercial mushroom producer.
Sept 10 Soaked innoculated substrate for 24 hours per box instructions
Sept 11 Drained and set to develop soaked substrate on a tray on a shelf not in direct sunlight simulating shaded natural environment.
Followed instructions to daily spray/mist the substrate where the mycelium is expected to produce adult mushrooms.
Sept 16 (5 days later), pins (juvenile mushrooms) were beginning to appear on the external sides of the substrate.
Sept 18 noted the juvenile mushrooms (pins) were doubling in size daily. Misting daily.
Sept 20 noted the growth has halted before full natural deployment of the caps. Caps remain vertically folded.
Sept 22 noted the halted growth and dryness of the fringes on the cap rims. Attempted to encourge further growth by increased misting.
Sept 24 noted no results from increased misting. Undeveloped caps appear dry. Halted project.
What we did not do: remove the plastic to inspect the innoculated block of substrate for dryness post project; investigate substrate ph; explore presence or quantities of formative nutrients (soil analysis of substrate) in the substrate such as potassium, phosphorus, calcium, magnesium, and iron; follow northspore dot com's suggestions for encouraging new or fresh fruitings.
Results
Adult Mushrooms halted development at approximately day 20. The striations on the cap did not fully develop failing to fully deploy the gill containing cap even to the spore stage. The stalled development assumes the spores never reached development stage. Stalks and skirt were never observable within the developing mushroom group although individual mushrooms did become identifiable in the group extending from the mycelium.
From this point we sought to discern what caused the halt in the development. Issues under consideration was inadequate soak period, inadequate misting, too much light in grow area, using old mycelium from a product that was on clearance when purchased.
Definitions:
Substrate: the medium in which the first stage of mycelium (infant pre-pin mushrooms develop) develops.
Innoculation: The process of mixing spore (seeding) or mycelium in a substrate to initiate growth of mushroom; create the circumstances for initial (mycelium) growth of mushrooms.
Mycelium: a first stage from spore growth of mushrooms. Appears like a white mold in a substrate.
Cap: The developing top of an adult mushroom.
Spores: The 'egg' stage of mushrooms which must be seeded (innoculation) in a substrate to produce mycelium.
Fruiting: The process of a mycelium to produce the adult body of what we know as a mushroom. Pins being the first evidence of this process.
Pins: The first visible evidence of juvenile mushrooms growing from mycelium to adulthood and harvest-ability.
Reference Data & Bibliography
1 How Fungi Perfecti grows mushroom "sustainably harvested mushroom cultures to inoculate and ferment an organic brown rice substrate". Website: https://fungi.com/blogs/articles/growing-mycelium
2 Mushroom Cultivation: 5 Common Mistakes to Avoid: "Thermogenesis happens when the mycelium is decomposing organic matter. Like compost piles, the mushroom substrate will start generating its own heat. " Website: https://fungiacademy.com/common-mushroom-cultivation-mistakes-to-avoid/
3 Plant Physiology and Development Sixth Edition by Lincoln Taiz, Eduardo Zeiger, Ian Max Moller, and Angus Murphy. Curriculum Textbook. Copyright 2010. p 5 Sporophyte Generation; p 138-139 Mycorrhizal Symbiosis wrt producing dense Mycelium and/or Mycelial Strands
4 IMAGE: Mushroom Anatomy Diagram. SOURCE: ARTICLE The Anatomy of a Mushroom Explained; Posted by Eliza Hedley on November 21, 2021 WEBSITE: https://teelixir.com/blogs/news/anatomy-mushroom-parts
5 ARTICLE: What to Do With Your Mushroom Grow Kit when it is Done. Website:
6 WORD COUNT: https://wordcounter.net/
Title: THE MUSHROOM GROW PROJECT
Assignment: Produce science lab summary report minimum 500 words on the Mushroom Grow Project.
Word Count on Summary Report not including supporting documentation: 592 words 3,688 characters
Summary Report
Suilgrian and I explored the plant physiology and development of the mushroom from the innoculated substrate stage to the adult fruited mushroom at the harvest stage via a grow project that began with a commercial kit purchased on clearance at Walmart. This project was part of our Sophmore High School level Plant Physiology in Biology 102. Our grow project did not produce the expected results of a fully formed adult mushroom achieving harvestable development. We began the project following the enclosed instructions in the "Back to the Roots" Organic Mushroom Grow Kit. The kit was comprised of pre innoculated unspecified type substrate ready for deployment from the early mycelium. Mycelium being the post spore pre pin fungal stage of mushroom life cycle. We assume the substrate was possibly "organic brown rice" as used by Fungi Perfecti, as similar commercial mushroom producer. The instructions directed Suilgrian to soak the substrate in water for 24 hours to initiate development from the Mycelium block stage. After soaking she cut the plastic enclosure on the face in an X to allow breathing of the substrate and access to mist the substrate maintaining growable moisture levels. The project spanned 2 weeks [a full 14 days] see the enclosed reported Timeline of the Project. The project progressed successfully until roughly day 12 of the 14 day period. The pins had emerged and were doubling in size producing a well defined coloy group of mushrooms on the mycelium infused substrate. It was at this point we noted the growth seemed to stall. The growth halted during development of the caps which failed to fully deploy and thus we assume the colony did not produce any spore containing gills or by consequence any spore. The caps remained vertical with dry crispy edges or rims. We attempted to increase the moisture of the colony by increasing frequency of the daily misting. It did not produce a developmental response. At day 16 we halted the project and assessed the overal results. The product never finished the fruiting. Stalks and skirt were never observable within the developing mushroom group although individual mushrooms did become identifiable in the group extending from the mycelium. We surmise a lack of moisture was a contributing if not primary factor. It may have been the soak of the substrate was insufficient and should have been a few hours longer given the substrate block was old (purchased on clearance) at time of purchase. The full list of issues under consideration for the failure of the lifecycle was: inadequate soak period, inadequate misting, too much light in grow area, using old mycelium from a product that was on clearance when purchased. The limitations of the biochemical post lab project research options prevented us from clearly discerning the cause beyond a logical surmise. We did not : remove the plastic to inspect the innoculated block of substrate for dryness post project; investigate substrate ph; explore presence or quantities of formative nutrients (soil analysis of substrate) in the substrate such as potassium, phosphorus, calcium, magnesium, and iron; follow northspore dot com's suggestions for encouraging new or fresh fruitings. Investigating the substrate ph and presence of the formative nutrients was not an option due to lack of biochemical test kits. The final takeaway from the project allowed us to see how a grow out could be imperfect and to consider factors that may be important to the nutrician and health of the mushroom lifecycle. This implies there is benefits to imperfect conditions revealing the unseen factors that would not otherwise come under consideration.
Timeline of Project
Project Intent: Learn and experience growing mushrooms from the mycelium stage as part of studying plant physiology and development.
Sept 8 Obtained product Mycelium innoculated substrate from a company named "Back to the Roots". Type of substrate was not specified. Assumed it was possibly "organic brown rice" as used by Fungi Perfecti, as similar commercial mushroom producer.
Sept 10 Soaked innoculated substrate for 24 hours per box instructions
Sept 11 Drained and set to develop soaked substrate on a tray on a shelf not in direct sunlight simulating shaded natural environment.
Followed instructions to daily spray/mist the substrate where the mycelium is expected to produce adult mushrooms.
Sept 16 (5 days later), pins (juvenile mushrooms) were beginning to appear on the external sides of the substrate.
Sept 18 noted the juvenile mushrooms (pins) were doubling in size daily. Misting daily.
Sept 20 noted the growth has halted before full natural deployment of the caps. Caps remain vertically folded.
Sept 22 noted the halted growth and dryness of the fringes on the cap rims. Attempted to encourge further growth by increased misting.
Sept 24 noted no results from increased misting. Undeveloped caps appear dry. Halted project.
What we did not do: remove the plastic to inspect the innoculated block of substrate for dryness post project; investigate substrate ph; explore presence or quantities of formative nutrients (soil analysis of substrate) in the substrate such as potassium, phosphorus, calcium, magnesium, and iron; follow northspore dot com's suggestions for encouraging new or fresh fruitings.
Results
Adult Mushrooms halted development at approximately day 20. The striations on the cap did not fully develop failing to fully deploy the gill containing cap even to the spore stage. The stalled development assumes the spores never reached development stage. Stalks and skirt were never observable within the developing mushroom group although individual mushrooms did become identifiable in the group extending from the mycelium.
From this point we sought to discern what caused the halt in the development. Issues under consideration was inadequate soak period, inadequate misting, too much light in grow area, using old mycelium from a product that was on clearance when purchased.
Definitions:
Substrate: the medium in which the first stage of mycelium (infant pre-pin mushrooms develop) develops.
Innoculation: The process of mixing spore (seeding) or mycelium in a substrate to initiate growth of mushroom; create the circumstances for initial (mycelium) growth of mushrooms.
Mycelium: a first stage from spore growth of mushrooms. Appears like a white mold in a substrate.
Cap: The developing top of an adult mushroom.
Spores: The 'egg' stage of mushrooms which must be seeded (innoculation) in a substrate to produce mycelium.
Fruiting: The process of a mycelium to produce the adult body of what we know as a mushroom. Pins being the first evidence of this process.
Pins: The first visible evidence of juvenile mushrooms growing from mycelium to adulthood and harvest-ability.
Reference Data & Bibliography
1 How Fungi Perfecti grows mushroom "sustainably harvested mushroom cultures to inoculate and ferment an organic brown rice substrate". Website: https://fungi.com/blogs/articles/growing-mycelium
2 Mushroom Cultivation: 5 Common Mistakes to Avoid: "Thermogenesis happens when the mycelium is decomposing organic matter. Like compost piles, the mushroom substrate will start generating its own heat. " Website: https://fungiacademy.com/common-mushroom-cultivation-mistakes-to-avoid/
3 Plant Physiology and Development Sixth Edition by Lincoln Taiz, Eduardo Zeiger, Ian Max Moller, and Angus Murphy. Curriculum Textbook. Copyright 2010. p 5 Sporophyte Generation; p 138-139 Mycorrhizal Symbiosis wrt producing dense Mycelium and/or Mycelial Strands
4 IMAGE: Mushroom Anatomy Diagram
5 ARTICLE: What to Do With Your Mushroom Grow Kit when it is Done. Website:
6 WORD COUNT: https://wordcounter.net/
Who wants to hijack a alien starship and go for a joyride, then paint "Gumby was HERE" on the top or bottom before leaving it parked on the dark side of the Moon? Huge UFO Mothership Has Entered Our Solar System, Say Astronomers - Tales from out there (weebly.com)
Is the Deep State about to Jericho some place in the NE of the United States?
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/u-s-state-department-issues-dire-warning-americans-should-leave-russia-immediately
Why not? If they did Nord Stream and 911 et al...
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/u-s-state-department-issues-dire-warning-americans-should-leave-russia-immediately
Why not? If they did Nord Stream and 911 et al...
MAKE VIRAL:Fox News host Tucker Carlson reacts to the possibility of sabotage to the Nord Stream pipelines on:TUCKER ASKS THE RIGHT QUESTIONS-PUTIN DID NOT BLOW IT UP! WHO HAS THE MOST TO GAIN? BIDEN STATED THAT HE WOULD TAKE OUT THE PIPELINE Ukraine accuses Russia of Nord Stream 'terror attack' as gas leaks from 'sabotaged' pipelines send vast rings of churning bubbles up to 3000FT wide to Baltic Sea surface following 'undersea explosions' SQ;RUSSIA DIDN'T DO IT-GUESS WHO DID? U.S. Blew Up Russian Gas Pipelines Nord Stream 1 & 2, Says Former Polish Defense Minister Der Spiegel says CIA warned German government of potential sabotage weeks ago Blasts Detected Near Nord Stream As Images Reveal 'Huge Leak' :Swedish National Seismic Network detected two underwater explosions near the Nord Stream pipeline system on Monday. URGENT - Russian Gas Pipelines to Germany, BLOWN UP :What was the USS KEARSAGE doing in that area when it shut off its AIS tracking? Planting time-delayed explosives? | 2022-09-28 |
Victoria Nuland is an Obama/WEF/CFR flunky. She does not act in the best interests of Americans. We've known this. When looking at the Nord Stream destruction reports, knowing we have non-Americans aka Globals running and calling the shots in the federal level in the absence of President Trump who WAS elected, we then look at ALL reports. Including TASS for information on who is saying and doing what. No surprise...pair that with the naval ship reportedly on site at the time and last spring...America chose to not house clean in the wake of the stolen election. What a freaking mess and Germans and other EU residents will spend a winter without heat because of it.
Russian diplomat urges EU to wake up, recalls Nuland's words about stopping Nord Stream 2 - Russian Politics & Diplomacy - TASS
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MOSCOW, September 28. /TASS/. It’s time fro the EU to wake up, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said, posting a video on her Telegram channel with a statement of US Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland about stopping the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.
"Are you still looking for an answer to the question of who is behind the whole Ukrainian bloody scenario, the destruction of pan-European cooperation and the global world crisis?" the diplomat wrote, attaching a video of Nuland's January 27 briefing where she says, "If Russia invades Ukraine, one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward".
"And before that, she had set out the goal very clearly, saying 'fuck the EU’. When will Brussels wake up?" Zakharova concluded.
On Tuesday, Nord Stream AG (Nord Stream Aktsiengesellschaft) reported "unprecedented destruction" on Monday "on three strings of the Nord Stream and Nord Stream-2 offshore pipelines." Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that Moscow was "extremely concerned by this news" and did not rule out that the disruption of the pipelines could have been the result of sabotage.
Later, Swedish seismologists said two explosions had been recorded along the routes of both pipelines on Monday. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen slammed the incidents as sabotage, pointing out that any "deliberate disruption of the European energy infrastructure is unacceptable and will lead to the strongest possible response".
Russian diplomat urges EU to wake up, recalls Nuland's words about stopping Nord Stream 2 - Russian Politics & Diplomacy - TASS
[size=40]Russian diplomat urges EU to wake up, recalls Nuland's words about stopping Nord Stream 2
On Tuesday, Nord Stream AG reported "unprecedented destruction" on Monday "on three strings of the Nord Stream and Nord Stream-2 offshore pipelines"[/size]
MOSCOW, September 28. /TASS/. It’s time fro the EU to wake up, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said, posting a video on her Telegram channel with a statement of US Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland about stopping the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.
"Are you still looking for an answer to the question of who is behind the whole Ukrainian bloody scenario, the destruction of pan-European cooperation and the global world crisis?" the diplomat wrote, attaching a video of Nuland's January 27 briefing where she says, "If Russia invades Ukraine, one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward".
"And before that, she had set out the goal very clearly, saying 'fuck the EU’. When will Brussels wake up?" Zakharova concluded.
On Tuesday, Nord Stream AG (Nord Stream Aktsiengesellschaft) reported "unprecedented destruction" on Monday "on three strings of the Nord Stream and Nord Stream-2 offshore pipelines." Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that Moscow was "extremely concerned by this news" and did not rule out that the disruption of the pipelines could have been the result of sabotage.
Later, Swedish seismologists said two explosions had been recorded along the routes of both pipelines on Monday. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen slammed the incidents as sabotage, pointing out that any "deliberate disruption of the European energy infrastructure is unacceptable and will lead to the strongest possible response".
If I were going to say something to Pentagon about the Nord Stream pipeline right now, what would I say?
I'd say you jerks didn't have American's permission to do the damage. You didn't have American's permission to wipe out the winter heat for the EU and its member nations. You all should be fired...as of yesterday. Without pay.
I highly doubt our US Congress gave you the ok to blow up the Nord Stream.
What an asshole thing to do to Europe.
I'd say you jerks didn't have American's permission to do the damage. You didn't have American's permission to wipe out the winter heat for the EU and its member nations. You all should be fired...as of yesterday. Without pay.
I highly doubt our US Congress gave you the ok to blow up the Nord Stream.
What an asshole thing to do to Europe.
Received in email....
Putin’s Speech Analysis: Bioweapons and Human Experimentation in Ukraine
For those who have not read Putin’s transcript from his speech today, September 30th, 2022; I highly recommend you do so. You simply cannot trust any media outlet to give you an accurate or sufficient summary. You must read it for yourself, in its entirety. Link is here.[size=20]¹
Now that you’ve read the speech, I’m going to give my takeaways and address which passages stuck out to me.
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The overall message of the speech is, Russia have reclaimed land which belonged to them only a few short decades ago. Followed by an absolute lambasting of the US/NATO a declaration of war on “Western elites” (the Deep State) and the Liberal-Globalist ideology as a whole. Putin spent a significant majority of his speech highlighting the hypocrisy of Western society and the plague it has brought upon the world.
Now, you all know my field of expertise revolves around the biolabs in Ukraine. Interesting nugget from Putin thrown in this speech, his first public acknowledgement of “Bioweapons” and “human experimentation” in Ukraine and elsewhere. In the past he has allowed UN diplomats and the Ministries of Defense and Foreign affairs to address this situation, until today.
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It might not seem like much, but what Putin just asserted would be the two most consequential international crimes known to man. Putin just public accused the West of infringing the International Biological Weapons Treaty, as well as the Nuremberg Code. In case anyone needs a reminder for what the punishment for those crimes are…
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As for the rest of the speech, Putin makes a plethora of legitimate points. Many of which sound very similar Trump’s narratives and talking points.
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Putin accurately describes the current landscape of Western media. The overwhelming majority of the public are “information hungry” because they are being deprived of the truth. Comparing the West’s censorship and propaganda to that of Nazi Germany (Goebbels).
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Here, Putin continues to address realities that the West ignore. The Liberal-Globalists preach “freedom and democracy”, yet they do not practice what they preach. In fact they do the opposite. The Western elites are engaged in lies and deception on a global scale. Using their power as a veil to hide their horrific crimes.
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This sounds very similar to Trump speaking at a rally. The Deep State simply blame their enemies, in this case Trump and Putin, for all of the problems that they themselves created.
The playbook is about worn out. Your liberal coworker might still believe it, but the collective world are not buying it anymore.
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Sounds like a pretty reasonable and sane stance pertaining to family and children. Similar to Trump. Rejecting the preposterous and outright INSANE ideology pushed by the Liberal-Globalists. Putin doesn’t want the Russian children subject to the psychological perversion that exists here in the West. And I can assure you 90%+ of parents worldwide agree with Putin here.
“Don’t mutilate, psychologically manipulate, and/or dehumanize our children” seems like a pretty reasonable request. But the Left-wing media tells you that they are the sane ones, and Putin is the madman.
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This passage might be the most intriguing of all. Putin addresses that the victims of the Western elites include their own citizens. Highlighting that the Deep State have an agenda to dehumanize every society and dismantle all traditional values. Calling the Western elites “pure Satanism”.
Here I believe Putin is speaking to us Western citizens. Letting us know that he knows Russia’s quarrels are not with the US/West’s People, but with the elite few who run this global crime syndicate.
Does this sound like a deranged, warmongering madman to you?
Now if you read any media outlet, they won’t include anything about the “bioweapons” passage. Some of them are touching on the Satanism, with hopes that it makes Putin appear crazy, to better fuel their narrative. The Western citizens are being fed select lines from the speech in an attempt to paint Putin in a bad light and to deter people from reading the full transcript. Otherwise people might read it for themselves and come got the conclusion that Putin is not a madman and is mankind a seriously convincing and sane argument.
Sounds EXACTLY like Trump.
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In conclusion, this speech tells me Trump and Putin are on the same wavelength. And we cannot ignore that much of Putin’s speech revolved around many Q-related narratives, to include: Satanism, the “Western Elite” (Deep State), Western propaganda and Orwellian dystopia, perversion of the young, and dehumanization of all traditional values and society.
The foundation of this speech sounds similar to the main talking points at a Trump rally.
We also must take careful note of Putin and Trump never directing any hostility or negative words towards each other. All throughout this process, both Putin and Trump have remained consistent that the Deep State are to blame. Never once speaking poorly of one another.
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As for where this road leads, I believe we are in a controlled psychological military operation, and both Trump and Putin are in on it. The world will be pushed to what appears to be the brink of nuclear destruction, a Cuban Missile Crisis-like event will occur, we will come out unscathed, and Trump and Putin will resolve the issue in some capacity, which will result in global support and thus a global denouncing of the Deep State/Western Elite, followed by the appropriate punishment for those responsible.
The other option is that this is not a controlled op, and we are actually on the brink of nuclear destruction, in which case we are screwed anyways.
As for HOW this unfolds? I cannot tell you. Just know that things are only going to get crazier. But the crazier shit gets, the closer we get to the finish line.
-Clandestine
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Putin’s Speech Analysis: Bioweapons and Human Experimentation in Ukraine
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Now that you’ve read the speech, I’m going to give my takeaways and address which passages stuck out to me.
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The overall message of the speech is, Russia have reclaimed land which belonged to them only a few short decades ago. Followed by an absolute lambasting of the US/NATO a declaration of war on “Western elites” (the Deep State) and the Liberal-Globalist ideology as a whole. Putin spent a significant majority of his speech highlighting the hypocrisy of Western society and the plague it has brought upon the world.
Now, you all know my field of expertise revolves around the biolabs in Ukraine. Interesting nugget from Putin thrown in this speech, his first public acknowledgement of “Bioweapons” and “human experimentation” in Ukraine and elsewhere. In the past he has allowed UN diplomats and the Ministries of Defense and Foreign affairs to address this situation, until today.
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[size]“They call the orders and threats they make to their vassals Euro-Atlantic solidarity, and the creation of biological weapons and the use of human test subjects, including in Ukraine, noble medical research.”
It might not seem like much, but what Putin just asserted would be the two most consequential international crimes known to man. Putin just public accused the West of infringing the International Biological Weapons Treaty, as well as the Nuremberg Code. In case anyone needs a reminder for what the punishment for those crimes are…
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As for the rest of the speech, Putin makes a plethora of legitimate points. Many of which sound very similar Trump’s narratives and talking points.
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[size]“Such self-confidence is a direct product not only of the notorious concept of exceptionalism – although it never ceases to amaze – but also of the real ‘information hunger’ in the West. The truth has been drowned in an ocean of myths, illusions and fakes, using extremely aggressive propaganda, lying like Goebbels. The more unbelievable the lie, the quicker people will believe it – that is how they operate, according to this principle.”
Putin accurately describes the current landscape of Western media. The overwhelming majority of the public are “information hungry” because they are being deprived of the truth. Comparing the West’s censorship and propaganda to that of Nazi Germany (Goebbels).
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[size]“Western countries have been saying for centuries that they bring freedom and democracy to other nations. Nothing could be further from the truth. Instead of bringing democracy they suppressed and exploited, and instead of giving freedom they enslaved and oppressed. The unipolar world is inherently anti-democratic and unfree; it is false and hypocritical through and through.”
Here, Putin continues to address realities that the West ignore. The Liberal-Globalists preach “freedom and democracy”, yet they do not practice what they preach. In fact they do the opposite. The Western elites are engaged in lies and deception on a global scale. Using their power as a veil to hide their horrific crimes.
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[size]“That is why politicians in Europe have to convince their fellow citizens to eat less, take a shower less often and dress warmer at home. And those who start asking fair questions like “Why is that, in fact?” are immediately declared enemies, extremists and radicals. They point back at Russia and say: that is the source of all your troubles. More lies.”
This sounds very similar to Trump speaking at a rally. The Deep State simply blame their enemies, in this case Trump and Putin, for all of the problems that they themselves created.
The playbook is about worn out. Your liberal coworker might still believe it, but the collective world are not buying it anymore.
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[size]“Let’s answer some very simple questions for ourselves. Now I would like to return to what I said and want to address also all citizens of the country – not just the colleagues that are in the hall – but all citizens of Russia: do we want to have here, in our country, in Russia, ‘parent number one, parent number two and parent number three’ (they have completely lost it!) instead of mother and father? Do we want our schools to impose on our children, from their earliest days in school, perversions that lead to degradation and extinction? Do we want to drum into their heads the ideas that certain other genders exist along with women and men and to offer them gender reassignment surgery? Is that what we want for our country and our children? This is all unacceptable to us. We have a different future of our own.”
Sounds like a pretty reasonable and sane stance pertaining to family and children. Similar to Trump. Rejecting the preposterous and outright INSANE ideology pushed by the Liberal-Globalists. Putin doesn’t want the Russian children subject to the psychological perversion that exists here in the West. And I can assure you 90%+ of parents worldwide agree with Putin here.
“Don’t mutilate, psychologically manipulate, and/or dehumanize our children” seems like a pretty reasonable request. But the Left-wing media tells you that they are the sane ones, and Putin is the madman.
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[size]“Let me repeat that the dictatorship of the Western elites targets all societies, including the citizens of Western countries themselves. This is a challenge to all. This complete renunciation of what it means to be human, the overthrow of faith and traditional values, and the suppression of freedom are coming to resemble a “religion in reverse” – pure Satanism. Exposing false messiahs, Jesus Christ said in the Sermon on the Mount: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” These poisonous fruits are already obvious to people, and not only in our country but also in all countries, including many people in the West itself.”
This passage might be the most intriguing of all. Putin addresses that the victims of the Western elites include their own citizens. Highlighting that the Deep State have an agenda to dehumanize every society and dismantle all traditional values. Calling the Western elites “pure Satanism”.
Here I believe Putin is speaking to us Western citizens. Letting us know that he knows Russia’s quarrels are not with the US/West’s People, but with the elite few who run this global crime syndicate.
Does this sound like a deranged, warmongering madman to you?
Now if you read any media outlet, they won’t include anything about the “bioweapons” passage. Some of them are touching on the Satanism, with hopes that it makes Putin appear crazy, to better fuel their narrative. The Western citizens are being fed select lines from the speech in an attempt to paint Putin in a bad light and to deter people from reading the full transcript. Otherwise people might read it for themselves and come got the conclusion that Putin is not a madman and is mankind a seriously convincing and sane argument.
Sounds EXACTLY like Trump.
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In conclusion, this speech tells me Trump and Putin are on the same wavelength. And we cannot ignore that much of Putin’s speech revolved around many Q-related narratives, to include: Satanism, the “Western Elite” (Deep State), Western propaganda and Orwellian dystopia, perversion of the young, and dehumanization of all traditional values and society.
The foundation of this speech sounds similar to the main talking points at a Trump rally.
We also must take careful note of Putin and Trump never directing any hostility or negative words towards each other. All throughout this process, both Putin and Trump have remained consistent that the Deep State are to blame. Never once speaking poorly of one another.
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As for where this road leads, I believe we are in a controlled psychological military operation, and both Trump and Putin are in on it. The world will be pushed to what appears to be the brink of nuclear destruction, a Cuban Missile Crisis-like event will occur, we will come out unscathed, and Trump and Putin will resolve the issue in some capacity, which will result in global support and thus a global denouncing of the Deep State/Western Elite, followed by the appropriate punishment for those responsible.
The other option is that this is not a controlled op, and we are actually on the brink of nuclear destruction, in which case we are screwed anyways.
As for HOW this unfolds? I cannot tell you. Just know that things are only going to get crazier. But the crazier shit gets, the closer we get to the finish line.
-Clandestine
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http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/69465[/size]
More received in email:
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From: RS
Date: Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 6:58 PM
Subject: Fwd: Putin’s Speech Analysis: Bioweapons and Human Experiment
To: M
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It might not seem like much, but what Putin just asserted would be the two most consequential international crimes known to man. Putin just publicly accused the West of infringing the International Biological Weapons Treaty, as well as the Nuremberg Code. In case anyone needs a reminder for what the punishment for those crimes is…"[/ltr]
| 7:13 PM (1 hour ago) | |||
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We Must Stop Biden & NATO's Push for World War 3
and Nuclear War in Europe
Right now, we must stop stop a nuclear war that the "Eco-terrorist" lunatic in the White House is trying to impose on us and the whole world.
Putin has moved strategic bombers to the an airbase near the Finnish border and despite all his warnings to Wasshington, Ukraine and NATO, today "Adolf Zelenskyy" signed an expedited application to join NATO.
The good news is that 90% of Germans polled reject the Big Lie that "Putin did it."
No one wants to become "nuclear toast" for criminals like Zelenskyy, Chou Bi-Den and his co-criminals in Washington,
"Winkin', Blinkin', and Nodding Out."
I'll keep you posted.
Putin has moved strategic bombers to the an airbase near the Finnish border and despite all his warnings to Wasshington, Ukraine and NATO, today "Adolf Zelenskyy" signed an expedited application to join NATO.
The good news is that 90% of Germans polled reject the Big Lie that "Putin did it."
No one wants to become "nuclear toast" for criminals like Zelenskyy, Chou Bi-Den and his co-criminals in Washington,
"Winkin', Blinkin', and Nodding Out."
I'll keep you posted.
M
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From: RS
Date: Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 6:58 PM
Subject: Fwd: Putin’s Speech Analysis: Bioweapons and Human Experiment
To: M
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"“They call the orders and threats they make to their vassals Euro-Atlantic solidarity, and the creation of biological weapons and the use of human test subjects, including in Ukraine, noble medical research.”
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It might not seem like much, but what Putin just asserted would be the two most consequential international crimes known to man. Putin just publicly accused the West of infringing the International Biological Weapons Treaty, as well as the Nuremberg Code. In case anyone needs a reminder for what the punishment for those crimes is…"[/ltr]
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As he promised in January, Biden sabotaged the Nord Stream pipeline...
Here is the result:
The Gotterdammerung Hangs over Germany
https://twitter.com/ronin19217435/status/1575719572363448320
*******
President Vladimir Putin's Latest Statement
(Would you blow up your own pipeline?)
https://twitter.com/jungliat/status/1575247194336415744
President Vladimir Putin's Latest Statement
(Would you blow up your own pipeline?)
https://twitter.com/jungliat/status/1575247194336415744
One more from email:
[ltr]Here is a full list of the Congressional Republicans he has funded for the upcoming 2022 cycle.
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Is it possible for us to trust a Republican slate that is so financially influenced by Billionaire Bill Gates? What does it say about the integrity of those within our own party?[/ltr]
| 2:59 PM (6 hours ago) | |||
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[ltr]Here is a full list of the Congressional Republicans he has funded for the upcoming 2022 cycle.
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- Rep. Vernon Buchanan – Florida, District 16
- Rep. Dan Crenshaw – Texas, District 2
- Rep. Elise Stefanik – New York, District 21
- Rep. Chuck Fleishmann, Tennessee, District 3
- Rep. Mike Simpson, Idaho, District 2
- Rep. Garrett Graves, Louisiana, District 6
- Rep. Cathy Rodgers, Washington, District 5
- Rep. Kay Granger, Texas, District 12
- Rep. Suzan Delbone, Washington, District 1
- Rep. Kelly Armstrong, North Dakota, At-large District
- Rep. John Curtis, Utah, District 3
- Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, Pennsylvania, District 1
- Rep. Dan Newhouse, Washington, District 4
- Rep. Jamie Beutler, Washington, District 3
- Sen. Mike Crapo, Idaho
- Sen. John Cornyn, Texas
- Sen. Shelley Capito, West Virginia
- Sen. Mike Braun, Indiana
- Sen. Bill Cassidy, Louisiana
- Sen. Susan Collins, Maine
- Sen. John Kennedy, Louisiana
- Sen. John Barrasso, Wyoming
- Sen. John Thune, South Dakota
- Sen. Bill Hagerty, Tennessee
- Sen. Jerry Moran, Kansas
- Sen. Marco Rubio, Florida
- Sen. John Hoeven, North Dakota
- Sen. Mitt Romney, Utah
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Is it possible for us to trust a Republican slate that is so financially influenced by Billionaire Bill Gates? What does it say about the integrity of those within our own party?[/ltr]
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Cyrellys wrote:99 wrote:Cy, in a way I want to mollify you on your view you expressed in your most recent post in this thread but due to lack of clarity I'm not sure what to make of it so I can't do that. You are kind of going all over the place in that post. Sorry.
Nevertheless, back to what I was talking about, it's easy to think that Putin weaponized those pipelines by using them as a propaganda tool to basically cause more confusion and chaos.
They perhaps want everyone to think that the US is the culprit but, quite frankly, that motive is too convoluted for even Russia to try.
But having said this, the fact that Russian ships were seen in that area on the Baltic sea during the time when those pipes exploded does indeed raise some red flags.
My post was referring back to a number of my own posts both here and on my blog as well as something Foot posted about the Turkey trip...they according to it are out of town to avoid any nuclear event that occurs here. It puts the Princess closer to "home" in the event of a worst case scenario.
It wasn't Russian ships...it was one US ship, the USS Kearsage.
And there is more...underwater drones near Bornholm
Nord Stream Attack: Drones Seen Near Gas Facilities Beforehand: Norway (businessinsider.com)
"Unidentified drones were spotted near offshore installations days before Nord Stream attack, according to letter from Norwegian energy security agency"
Unidentified drones were spotted near offshore installations days before Nord Stream attack, according to letter from Norwegian energy security agency (yahoo.com)
Just days before the Nord Stream pipeline was attacked, unidentified drones were spotted near offshore installations off the Norwegian coast, the Norwegian energy-security agency said.
"Operator companies on the Norwegian continental shelf (NCS) have recently given warnings/notifications of a number of observations concerning unidentified drones/aircraft close to offshore installations," Norway's Petroleumstilsynet said in a letter on Friday, September 23.
NATO tested underwater drones close to Nord Stream leak zone – Moscow (thepressunited.com)
Speaking at a regular press briefing on Thursday, Zakharova dismissed any allegations that Russia was behind the incident. “May I ask you a question? When exactly did Russia decide it wanted to stop supplying energy to Europe?” she asked.
Zakharova said NATO had been engaged in military activities close to Bornholm island in Denmark, where the leaks were discovered, noting that they might have presented an interesting “opportunity” for the alliance.
In June 2022, NATO carried out Exercise Baltic Operations (BALTOPS) 22 in the Baltic Sea, which were meant to demonstrate the military bloc’s “mine hunting capabilities,” according to the statement by the US Navy at the time. In particular it sought to experiment with Unmanned Underwater Vehicles (UUV) by deploying them off the coast of Bornholm island.
Zakharova urged Washington to offer “an explanation” and “confess” to the truth, saying that the US had left that job to Poland’s former foreign minister, Radoslaw Sikorski, who earlier “thanked” the US for destroying the pipeline.
---[ltr]You're absolutely Correct, Pasheen,
From Robert M. to Pasheen,
Why would Russia ever need to blow up the pipelines when they control the[size=32] spigot back on terra firma in Mother Russia.
Those 3 pipelines were being used as leverage by Putin, so whoever did it wanted to remove that lever and that power to negotiate peace from Putin's hands in order to take those options off the negotiating table.
Putin used it to stop the flow of gas to Holland early on in the war..
This was done by someone truly evil who doesn't want a peaceful resolution and is seeking an extended war, and I think it proves the veracity of the RAND Report that I sent you 10 days ago stating explicitly that Germany is the real target in this war.
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Let us ask ourselves the most important question:
"Who on Earth even has the capacity to conduct and coordinate 3 simultaneous attacks using underwater demolition?
Personally, I think that the Polish member of parliament who "Thanked" the USfor blowing up the pipelines is not only insane but surely "a dead man walking," unless of course, he was directed to do so by the Deep State so that all of Europe knows exactly
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URGENT - Russian Gas Pipelines to Germany, BLOWN UP :What was the USS KEARSAGE doing in that area when it shut off its AIS tracking? Planting time-delayed explosives?
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/covert-intel-urgent-russian-gas-pipelines-to-germany-blown-up
and this: Der Speigel reported the Polish defense ministers remark: U.S. Blew Up Russian Gas Pipelines Nord Stream 1 & 2, Says Former Polish Defense Minister Der Spiegel says CIA warned German government of potential sabotage weeks ago
Radek Sikorski MEP
@radeksikorski
is the minister's name.
yeah Crenshaw is a hypocrite. First rate.
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