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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin
With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
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Cyrellys Geibhendach
3:30 PM (1 minute ago)
to S2HQ
BIN is not the source. The source is Red Stacker at Youtube. Click the YOUTUBE link on the video embed. IT will take you to youtube to the source. Guy is former mil intel per the audio he posted. He's been in the civilian venue for a long time. I do not know him. Only that he is loudly broadcasting the arrests to offset what Americans and the national militia network is about to do...tell everyone the problem is being taken care of so we all don't act on the problem ourselves. Msg received BUT as I said there must be proof and it must be public or the blow back won't be stopped. Sounds like there may be something given as proof and a message from POTUS on the emergency broadcast network somewhere in next 24 hours.
3:30 PM (1 minute ago)
to S2HQ
BIN is not the source. The source is Red Stacker at Youtube. Click the YOUTUBE link on the video embed. IT will take you to youtube to the source. Guy is former mil intel per the audio he posted. He's been in the civilian venue for a long time. I do not know him. Only that he is loudly broadcasting the arrests to offset what Americans and the national militia network is about to do...tell everyone the problem is being taken care of so we all don't act on the problem ourselves. Msg received BUT as I said there must be proof and it must be public or the blow back won't be stopped. Sounds like there may be something given as proof and a message from POTUS on the emergency broadcast network somewhere in next 24 hours.
Letter from a #NaturesCrowd to a worried American. 01122021
- Instruction: read the conversation from bottom of the page to the top.
Cyrellys Geibhendach
10:12 PM (11 minutes ago)
to Chrystal
Hi Chrystal, Yes it is awful this state of affairs has gone on so long. With every year the price of correcting it goes higher and there is no escape to anywhere else on the planet. That's the problem with high civilization and technology. With great knowledge comes great responsibility. I am aware of the different knee-jerk approaches to the current situation. Unfortunately it is too late for secession or fleeing to some other country -- most are further down the NWO road than we are. This is going to require the many to correct directly.
Yes I believe the Biden/Kam admin will destroy what is left if left to their own devices and agenda. They will be replaced by a worse pair: Pelosi and Hillary. This does not mean there is no more America. America was never our government. Many will say wow she just said what?!!! Yes I did say that. Think back for a moment about our founding documents. The Constitution was written and instituted to set the boundaries of operation restraining our government and setting organization to the division of powers, checks and balances, and affirmation of its responsibility to protect and defend natural rights, which ensures most of that restraint. Our values and principles are based on Natural Law...Gods Law. John Locke, William Blackstone, and Charles de Montesquieu are the authors of the written works on Natural Law often described as the "political bibles" of the constitutional fathers. Our Founders repeatedly asserted the primacy of Natural Law and declared that no government in America could ever arbitrarily infringe upon the people's natural rights to life liberty, and property. So consider in this context that our Government is NOT American. It is our PEOPLE practicing the living culture of the ancients Natural Law day to day which is America. Where one man or woman makes the stand to defend that culture and its PEOPLE, so there stands America.
A document General George Washington carried in this personal saddle bags to Boston the day after being appointed the army's Commander (June23 1775), was one adopted by Congress and he was ordered to have it published upon arrival in Boston. That document was the Declaration on Causes and Necessity of Taking Arms that Congress adopted It was largely the work of John Dickinson with the help of Thomas Jefferson. Not many people know about this document. It was a literal and very specifically worded forerunner to our Declaration of Independence.
The document is dated July 6 1775. It begins:
A Declaration by the Representatives of the United Colonies of North America, now met in General Congress at Philadelphia, setting forth the causes and necessity of their taking up arms.
If it was possible for men, who exercise their reason, to believe, that the Divine Author of our existence intended a part of the human race to hold an absolute property in, and and an unbounded power over others, marked out by his infinite goodness and wisdom, as the objects of a legal domination never rightfully resistible, however severe and oppressive, the Inhabitants of these Colonies might at least require from the Parliament of Great Britain some evidence, that this dreadful authority over them, has been granted to that body. But a reverence for our great Creator, principles of humanity, and the dictates of common sense, must convince all those who reflect upon the subject, that government was instituted to promote the welfare of mankind, and ought to be administered for the attainment of that end. The legislature of Great Britain, however, stimulated by an inordinate passion for a power, not only unjustifiable, but which they know to be peculiarly reprobated by the very constitution of that kingdom, and desperate of success in any mode of contest, where regard should be had to truth, law, or right, have at length, deserting those, attempted to effect their cruel and impolitic purpose of enslaving these Colonies by violence, and have thereby rendered it necessary for us to close with their last appeal for Reason to Arms.....-- (excerpt) Declaration on Causes and Necessity of Taking Arms. page 53 book: Founding America, Documents from the Revolution to the Bill of Rights. George Stade Consulting Editorial Director. Barnes and Noble Classics New York.
In this you see the struggle in the context of government failing representation and that this followed by despotism, abandonment of truth, law, and right being just cause for taking up arms, spelling out a government and consequently a nation is implemented for the good of a People...thus it is the People who are America not the current cretins in control of its power.
You also clearly see the Founders point out the involvement of God in government and governance...that everything a government does is weighed and measured against the principles we uphold before the Divine Author of our existence....tthat tyranny, despotism, abuse of power is not acceptable and must be rectified.
This is where we are at right now. They fought this terrible iniquity with powder, ball, musket, and will. They chose to stand for what they believed in...that the fight was a defense of not only themselves but a divine expectation and character which defines us as a People. The divine providence we have enjoyed for over 200 years has stemmed from this and will again if we stand for that divinity once again. Hope and Grace exists where we do. God is only the divine partner who respects our free will. The weimar germans failed this test. Now it is our turn.
Cy
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Chrystal LS
1:00 PM (9 hours ago)
to me
Hi Cy. Thanks for the reply. It's really awful how this country has just gone on so long and not cared about the long corrosion, I certainly never really cared about politics but at the same time, they have been in power for so long, it's just normal to know that DC didn't care about the people. Some people believe that the military will rescue us and bring down the cabal, some others believe that it's over and Biden/Harris will be in charge and they want secession in their state, and I personally wish some could become independent but I'm sure that wouldn't matter much.
I for one don't have resources like a bunker to live in or a lot of food and water in storage, but I do live in a very small farming town and I do believe that God is with us and will provide. So that's it, right? No more America? Under the coming administration they will destroy what's left of this country? Is there any country on the planet that the cabal or the NWO doesn't care about?
Again, thanks for your quick reply.
Chrystal
- Instruction: read the conversation from bottom of the page to the top.
Cyrellys Geibhendach
10:12 PM (11 minutes ago)
to Chrystal
Hi Chrystal, Yes it is awful this state of affairs has gone on so long. With every year the price of correcting it goes higher and there is no escape to anywhere else on the planet. That's the problem with high civilization and technology. With great knowledge comes great responsibility. I am aware of the different knee-jerk approaches to the current situation. Unfortunately it is too late for secession or fleeing to some other country -- most are further down the NWO road than we are. This is going to require the many to correct directly.
Yes I believe the Biden/Kam admin will destroy what is left if left to their own devices and agenda. They will be replaced by a worse pair: Pelosi and Hillary. This does not mean there is no more America. America was never our government. Many will say wow she just said what?!!! Yes I did say that. Think back for a moment about our founding documents. The Constitution was written and instituted to set the boundaries of operation restraining our government and setting organization to the division of powers, checks and balances, and affirmation of its responsibility to protect and defend natural rights, which ensures most of that restraint. Our values and principles are based on Natural Law...Gods Law. John Locke, William Blackstone, and Charles de Montesquieu are the authors of the written works on Natural Law often described as the "political bibles" of the constitutional fathers. Our Founders repeatedly asserted the primacy of Natural Law and declared that no government in America could ever arbitrarily infringe upon the people's natural rights to life liberty, and property. So consider in this context that our Government is NOT American. It is our PEOPLE practicing the living culture of the ancients Natural Law day to day which is America. Where one man or woman makes the stand to defend that culture and its PEOPLE, so there stands America.
A document General George Washington carried in this personal saddle bags to Boston the day after being appointed the army's Commander (June23 1775), was one adopted by Congress and he was ordered to have it published upon arrival in Boston. That document was the Declaration on Causes and Necessity of Taking Arms that Congress adopted It was largely the work of John Dickinson with the help of Thomas Jefferson. Not many people know about this document. It was a literal and very specifically worded forerunner to our Declaration of Independence.
The document is dated July 6 1775. It begins:
A Declaration by the Representatives of the United Colonies of North America, now met in General Congress at Philadelphia, setting forth the causes and necessity of their taking up arms.
If it was possible for men, who exercise their reason, to believe, that the Divine Author of our existence intended a part of the human race to hold an absolute property in, and and an unbounded power over others, marked out by his infinite goodness and wisdom, as the objects of a legal domination never rightfully resistible, however severe and oppressive, the Inhabitants of these Colonies might at least require from the Parliament of Great Britain some evidence, that this dreadful authority over them, has been granted to that body. But a reverence for our great Creator, principles of humanity, and the dictates of common sense, must convince all those who reflect upon the subject, that government was instituted to promote the welfare of mankind, and ought to be administered for the attainment of that end. The legislature of Great Britain, however, stimulated by an inordinate passion for a power, not only unjustifiable, but which they know to be peculiarly reprobated by the very constitution of that kingdom, and desperate of success in any mode of contest, where regard should be had to truth, law, or right, have at length, deserting those, attempted to effect their cruel and impolitic purpose of enslaving these Colonies by violence, and have thereby rendered it necessary for us to close with their last appeal for Reason to Arms.....-- (excerpt) Declaration on Causes and Necessity of Taking Arms. page 53 book: Founding America, Documents from the Revolution to the Bill of Rights. George Stade Consulting Editorial Director. Barnes and Noble Classics New York.
In this you see the struggle in the context of government failing representation and that this followed by despotism, abandonment of truth, law, and right being just cause for taking up arms, spelling out a government and consequently a nation is implemented for the good of a People...thus it is the People who are America not the current cretins in control of its power.
You also clearly see the Founders point out the involvement of God in government and governance...that everything a government does is weighed and measured against the principles we uphold before the Divine Author of our existence....tthat tyranny, despotism, abuse of power is not acceptable and must be rectified.
This is where we are at right now. They fought this terrible iniquity with powder, ball, musket, and will. They chose to stand for what they believed in...that the fight was a defense of not only themselves but a divine expectation and character which defines us as a People. The divine providence we have enjoyed for over 200 years has stemmed from this and will again if we stand for that divinity once again. Hope and Grace exists where we do. God is only the divine partner who respects our free will. The weimar germans failed this test. Now it is our turn.
Cy
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Chrystal LS
1:00 PM (9 hours ago)
to me
Hi Cy. Thanks for the reply. It's really awful how this country has just gone on so long and not cared about the long corrosion, I certainly never really cared about politics but at the same time, they have been in power for so long, it's just normal to know that DC didn't care about the people. Some people believe that the military will rescue us and bring down the cabal, some others believe that it's over and Biden/Harris will be in charge and they want secession in their state, and I personally wish some could become independent but I'm sure that wouldn't matter much.
I for one don't have resources like a bunker to live in or a lot of food and water in storage, but I do live in a very small farming town and I do believe that God is with us and will provide. So that's it, right? No more America? Under the coming administration they will destroy what's left of this country? Is there any country on the planet that the cabal or the NWO doesn't care about?
Again, thanks for your quick reply.
Chrystal
https://www.theblaze.com/news/house-impeaches-trump-again
2flyPNToday at 4:19 PM
McConnell said he won’t reconvene the senate to approve it til the 19th I believe[Keep Me Posted!]
9:17 a.m., Wednesday Jan. 13
Keep Me Posted!: wrote:
"US Military High Alert As Intel Reports Hundreds To Thousands Of Chinese Paratroopers And Chinese Military Equipment Arrives In Canada At 2300 hours 1 9 2021'...Hal Turner always seems to be ahead of the news, if he's right and he could be knowing Trudeau loves the CCP, an armed invasion is plausible and imminent, people have been reporting massive troop movement in the USA so noticeable that Russia inquired to what is going on, if Joe Biden is truly a CCP puppet and with all the Democrats getting caught secretly working for them, stealing the election is just a warm up act...."Called to duty at 0400 1 10 2021
Commanding Officer Reported Chinese Military Preparing For Invasion On The Continental US"...'I hope Hal Turner is just war gaming out loud', the Democrat Party has called Trump supporters 'Domestic Terrorists'...the idea that Chinese troops would get involved in a civil war is almost a certainty.
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9:59 a.m., Wednesday Jan. 13
Keep Me Posted!: wrote:
"and multiple - reports that ALL US Military members, including reservists, are being urgently called, told to "drop whatever you're doing" and report for duty." That's supposed to be a recent alert, maybe someone who received this alert could comment and clear things up?
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Hi M! Yes either TX or MT comes up...both being constitutional redoubt states. If TX secedes they will be joined by a huge strip of patriot states right up the middle of the continent. That said, it would really be easier to "expel DC from the Union, along with CA, and any other state that wants to go NWO or socialist.
As to all that at this moment, we currently have an unconfirmed message that has gone out to the general public, that all the NWO critters in Congress were arrested today and are now sitting in prison charged with High Treason by the US Military via tribunal. That we should expect an emergency broadcast system message from POTUS, that a new VP has been chosen (FLYNN) who is a military general. I think the message was rushed out to everyone to head off what the patriots are about to do...
Chatter that US Mil have all been recalled to service urgently. None of this stuff confirmed as yet...too much happening. Supposedly there was a vote today by Congress to impeach Trump AGAIN which is illegal.
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WRT: Arrests?
Naconah
5:40 PM (5 minutes ago)
to me
Yeah, but this is all bullshit...no proofs.
Cyrellys Geibhendach
5:47 PM (0 minutes ago)
to Naconah
EXACTLY.. Proof goes well beyond communication. Communication if true is appreciated. Proof is required to halt armies.
M
5:48 PM (3 minutes ago)
FUCK THIS I AM SO FUCKING DONE WITH THIS CONGRESS !!!
IF THIS ISN'T FOR THE BIGGEST STING IN AMERICAN HISTORY ITS A FUCKING WASTE OF OUR HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS.!!!
IF PRESIDENT TRUMP DOESN'T PULL THIS TRIGGER I WILL MAKE IT MY SOUL PURPOSE IN LIFE TO SECEDE FROM THIS FUBAR OPERATED CRIME SYNDICATE !
BETTER GET TO TEXAS OR MIDDLE AMERICA BROTHER ......
*******
This year we have had people whose life savings and businesses have been destroyed over the course of the year and none of them [authorities/officials/leaders] have not advocated to go in and fix the problem....what did they think was going to happen? --- Ed. LTR.
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See vid embed. I can't retrieve archive this one: https://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/something-big-is-coming-all-military-forces-out-in-full-effect/280069
9:17 a.m., Wednesday Jan. 13
Keep Me Posted!: wrote:
"US Military High Alert As Intel Reports Hundreds To Thousands Of Chinese Paratroopers And Chinese Military Equipment Arrives In Canada At 2300 hours 1 9 2021'...Hal Turner always seems to be ahead of the news, if he's right and he could be knowing Trudeau loves the CCP, an armed invasion is plausible and imminent, people have been reporting massive troop movement in the USA so noticeable that Russia inquired to what is going on, if Joe Biden is truly a CCP puppet and with all the Democrats getting caught secretly working for them, stealing the election is just a warm up act...."Called to duty at 0400 1 10 2021
Commanding Officer Reported Chinese Military Preparing For Invasion On The Continental US"...'I hope Hal Turner is just war gaming out loud', the Democrat Party has called Trump supporters 'Domestic Terrorists'...the idea that Chinese troops would get involved in a civil war is almost a certainty.
******
9:59 a.m., Wednesday Jan. 13
Keep Me Posted!: wrote:
"and multiple - reports that ALL US Military members, including reservists, are being urgently called, told to "drop whatever you're doing" and report for duty." That's supposed to be a recent alert, maybe someone who received this alert could comment and clear things up?
************
Hi M! Yes either TX or MT comes up...both being constitutional redoubt states. If TX secedes they will be joined by a huge strip of patriot states right up the middle of the continent. That said, it would really be easier to "expel DC from the Union, along with CA, and any other state that wants to go NWO or socialist.
As to all that at this moment, we currently have an unconfirmed message that has gone out to the general public, that all the NWO critters in Congress were arrested today and are now sitting in prison charged with High Treason by the US Military via tribunal. That we should expect an emergency broadcast system message from POTUS, that a new VP has been chosen (FLYNN) who is a military general. I think the message was rushed out to everyone to head off what the patriots are about to do...
Chatter that US Mil have all been recalled to service urgently. None of this stuff confirmed as yet...too much happening. Supposedly there was a vote today by Congress to impeach Trump AGAIN which is illegal.
************
WRT: Arrests?
Naconah
5:40 PM (5 minutes ago)
to me
Yeah, but this is all bullshit...no proofs.
Cyrellys Geibhendach
5:47 PM (0 minutes ago)
to Naconah
EXACTLY.. Proof goes well beyond communication. Communication if true is appreciated. Proof is required to halt armies.
M
5:48 PM (3 minutes ago)
FUCK THIS I AM SO FUCKING DONE WITH THIS CONGRESS !!!
IF THIS ISN'T FOR THE BIGGEST STING IN AMERICAN HISTORY ITS A FUCKING WASTE OF OUR HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS.!!!
IF PRESIDENT TRUMP DOESN'T PULL THIS TRIGGER I WILL MAKE IT MY SOUL PURPOSE IN LIFE TO SECEDE FROM THIS FUBAR OPERATED CRIME SYNDICATE !
BETTER GET TO TEXAS OR MIDDLE AMERICA BROTHER ......
*******
This year we have had people whose life savings and businesses have been destroyed over the course of the year and none of them [authorities/officials/leaders] have not advocated to go in and fix the problem....what did they think was going to happen? --- Ed. LTR.
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See vid embed. I can't retrieve archive this one: https://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/something-big-is-coming-all-military-forces-out-in-full-effect/280069
Too late to relocate.
Transcript of image:
EMERGENCY ALERT; ATTENTION ALL CONSERVATIVES AND MEN AND WOMEN OF GOOD WILL-DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE TAKE PART IN ANY PROTEST AT STATE CAPITOLS- NO MATTER WHAT
Thank you for all you do. I spent the morning with a state office holder
whom I have know for years. He said that the state capitol demonstrations
are a FBI/CIA trap to arrest and give maximum sentences to as a way to gut
the resistance movement and check against their lists. People arrested
this coming weekend will not be getting out any time soon G.-SQ-.THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT ALLOWS FOR INDEFINITE DETENTION OF ANY ARRESTED.NO RIGHTS AT ALL-MEN YOUR PLACE IS WITH YOUR FAMILIES -THEY ARE YOUR NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY.YOU ARE PROTECTING THEM FROM BEING TAKEN HOSTAGE AND USED AGAINST YOU. SQ-FROM BACKGROUND INTEL GUY:'DO NOT TRY TO GO THROUGH A MILITARY ROADBLOCK WITH WEAPONS IN THE CAR OR ON YOUR PERSON UNLESS YOU WANT TO FIND YOURSELF ON A BUS TO A FEMA CAMP!!! DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE MAGA OR ANTIFA SAME TREATMENT AT THE MOMENT WHILE IT IS STILL LEGALLY BEING DECIDED WHO IS GOING TO CONTROL THE MARTIAL LAW AND DEFINE PRECISELY WHO IS A TRAITOR AND WHO IS NOT A TRAITOR....DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME ? THIS IS THE DARKEST DAY IN USA HISTORY TO DATE!!!TELL EVERYONE HARD LOCKDOWN IS COMING-NO MOVEMENT ALLOWED AT ALL.THE STORE SHELVES WILL BE EMPTIED OVERNIGHT AS NO TRUCKS WILL BE ALLOWED TO RUN-ETA IS STILL BEING DECIDED ,BUT THE 7 DAYS REMAINING ARE SHORTENING BY THE MINUTE AND I URGE YOU TO USE THESE FEW DAYS FOR YOUR LAST MINUTE PREPS! PRAY AND FAST AND CLAIM GOD'S PROTECTION OVER YOUR LOVED ONES AND FRIENDS -
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Now remember what Daniel said about "--stan" prior post.
update! Must hear interesting intel in this vid that I'm not hearing elsewhere
https://livestream.com/gomz/events/2547223/videos/215911861
Kraken came out in Pakistan. Blackouts.
Kraken is DOD cyber warfare program.
She gives serious detail on the Chicom invasion.
Transcript of image:
EMERGENCY ALERT; ATTENTION ALL CONSERVATIVES AND MEN AND WOMEN OF GOOD WILL-DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE TAKE PART IN ANY PROTEST AT STATE CAPITOLS- NO MATTER WHAT
Thank you for all you do. I spent the morning with a state office holder
whom I have know for years. He said that the state capitol demonstrations
are a FBI/CIA trap to arrest and give maximum sentences to as a way to gut
the resistance movement and check against their lists. People arrested
this coming weekend will not be getting out any time soon G.-SQ-.THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT ALLOWS FOR INDEFINITE DETENTION OF ANY ARRESTED.NO RIGHTS AT ALL-MEN YOUR PLACE IS WITH YOUR FAMILIES -THEY ARE YOUR NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY.YOU ARE PROTECTING THEM FROM BEING TAKEN HOSTAGE AND USED AGAINST YOU. SQ-FROM BACKGROUND INTEL GUY:'DO NOT TRY TO GO THROUGH A MILITARY ROADBLOCK WITH WEAPONS IN THE CAR OR ON YOUR PERSON UNLESS YOU WANT TO FIND YOURSELF ON A BUS TO A FEMA CAMP!!! DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE MAGA OR ANTIFA SAME TREATMENT AT THE MOMENT WHILE IT IS STILL LEGALLY BEING DECIDED WHO IS GOING TO CONTROL THE MARTIAL LAW AND DEFINE PRECISELY WHO IS A TRAITOR AND WHO IS NOT A TRAITOR....DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME ? THIS IS THE DARKEST DAY IN USA HISTORY TO DATE!!!TELL EVERYONE HARD LOCKDOWN IS COMING-NO MOVEMENT ALLOWED AT ALL.THE STORE SHELVES WILL BE EMPTIED OVERNIGHT AS NO TRUCKS WILL BE ALLOWED TO RUN-ETA IS STILL BEING DECIDED ,BUT THE 7 DAYS REMAINING ARE SHORTENING BY THE MINUTE AND I URGE YOU TO USE THESE FEW DAYS FOR YOUR LAST MINUTE PREPS! PRAY AND FAST AND CLAIM GOD'S PROTECTION OVER YOUR LOVED ONES AND FRIENDS -
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Now remember what Daniel said about "--stan" prior post.
update! Must hear interesting intel in this vid that I'm not hearing elsewhere
https://livestream.com/gomz/events/2547223/videos/215911861
Kraken came out in Pakistan. Blackouts.
Kraken is DOD cyber warfare program.
She gives serious detail on the Chicom invasion.
Important PDF: gov.uscourts.casd.660353.3.0.pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ovV0cpBIVJseWk4QdL7Ol2Z9zOfI9_Cm/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ovV0cpBIVJseWk4QdL7Ol2Z9zOfI9_Cm/view?usp=sharing
https://rumble.com/embed/va5ua5/?pub=4
Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:32 PM
Subject: Red Alert!! OATH KEEPERS WARNING ORDER PART I
RED ALERT!
OATH KEEPERS WARNING ORDER PART I
As always, Oath Keepers stands in defense of the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. What is now being installed is not a constitutional government. It’s an illegitimate regime that has unjustly taken power through massive vote fraud, to install a ChiCom puppet who will do the bidding of a mortal enemy of this nation, as well as the bidding of international elites who are in allegiance and alliance with the CCP as they pursue a common goal of destroying our Republic and enslaving the American people.
Executive Summary:
President Trump still can and should use the Insurrection Act, but it’s unlikely. Regardless, patriots should:
Prepare for a comms down/blackout environment. Obtain CB and HAM radios, fuel, food, etc
Muster NOW in their county seat. Meet face to face and sort out grid down comms and who will be “Home Guard” and part of a "Family Safe" program to stay back and protect families, while also determining who can project out to protect and assist others. Do it now before comms go down.
Muster ASAP at state level, but NOT at state Capitol. The newly formed county units must Muster in a friendly “red” county to establish comms and leadership connections for future. Establish protocols in case of lights out/comms down.
Beware of false flags and traps that are now being set. Be careful who you listen to and what events you attend. Expect attempts to lure you onto enemy controlled ground where they have time to set up false flags.
Prepare to walk the same path as the Founding Fathers of condemnation of an illegitimate regime, nullification/mass non-compliance, defiance, mutual defense, and resistance. See Part II for more.
FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP:
President Trump, though you have waited far too long, it's still not too late to act decisively as Commander-in-Chief. Honor your oath. Have courage. Do what we recommended you do (use the Insurrection Act and conduct a mass data declassification and public data dump to expose the compromised/corrupt traitors, and bring them to justice).
See our two previous open letters to you:
https://oathkeepers.org/2021/01/13/2020-12-open-letter-to-president-trump-you-must-use-insurrection-act-to-stop-the-steal-and-defeat-the-coup/
https://oathkeepers.org/2021/01/13/2020-12-open-letter-to-president-trump-part-ii-act-now-do-not-wait-for-jan-6/
At the very least, do the mass declassification and data dump. You still have absolute authority as President and Commander-in-Chief to declassify any files held by the CIA, FBI, NSA, etc. Use trusted elite units you know are still loyal to the Constitution to get it done (to seize the servers and dump the data on 4Chan, 8Chan, etc).
President Trump, it's your duty and the only way to actually keep your family safe. It's also your only possible way that YOU can still act to save our Republic from the communists and deep state traitors. Do NOT have faith in the corrupted legal system. Even if you attempt pardons for your family or yourself, that will not save you or them. Look at what the communists did to the Romanov family of Czar Nicholas II, his wife, and his children:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_the_Romanov_family.
Also, it's not just about you and your family. The domestic enemy wolves will be at the door of all your supporters as well. Liberty loving American constitutionalists will have no choice but to honor their oaths and defend both the Constitution and their families when the communists and obedient Deep State minions come for them (as they are already planning on doing). A fight is coming no matter what we do, becuase the domestic enemies won't stop until stopped. It's infinitely better for it to come while you are Commander-in-Chief, than for it to come with Biden the Chicom puppet imposter illegitimately installed in the White House.
Embrace destiny.
As Thomas Paine said: 'If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Amen.
Act. Now. Be the Commander in Chief we all know you can be and keep your word when you said America will never be a socialist country. If you fail to act now, you will go down in history as an American version of Neville Chamberlain (the British Prime Minister who attempted to appease Hitler) rather than as an American Churchill.
FOR PATRIOTS:
Patriots, keep your powder dry, your head on a swivel, and your gear ready to roll at moments notice.
BE PREPARED TO MOVE. TO ROLL. But, also keep your cool. It can be a tough balance, but you can do it. Get right with the Lord, get your mind right, stay cool, but be ready.
Realize that there is a swirling storm of intentional disinformation, rumor-mill crap, and cooked up false-flags running at this time. Be careful about who you trust for information, and remember, information is not the same thing as "intel." Even if someone is sincere and trustworthy (in the sense of not intending to mislead) they can still be passing on false info.
Also be careful about just jumping in on any advertised or organised "patriot" event - be it a protest or an armed march of any kind. Expect false-flags and enemy orchestrated pied piper events and traps. Do not rush head-long into such a "Buffalo Jump" as Navy SEAL veteran Matt Bracken calls them.
See below for my recommended course of action that is intended to make you stronger and better organized right now and for the future, without falling into false-flag traps that further the enemy's goals.
PREPARE FOR COMMS DOWN/LIGHTS OUT
Within the short term, we face a very high possibilty of an intentional "comms down" scenario where black hats take down/shut down all communications in the US - No cell service, no internet, no land lines. A comms blackout.
This could also include a take down of electrical power. An intentional power blackout. Worst case scenario would be an EMP strike. That is the Chicom/globalist final option to stop us. Be as prepared as you can be for it.
The purpose of such a comms down/blackout will be to minimize our ability to communicate and to pin people in their homes as the black hats and their terrorist allies conduct a “night of the long knives” decapitation strike to arrest or otherwise take out patriot leaders, potential leaders, and highly skilled personnel.
Alternatively, even if there is no overt comms-down or blackout event, there can still be simultaneous raids across the country in the middle of the night to take out leadership and hardcore patriots before they can warn each other. Expect it.
Whether a comms/power blackout happens as the result of actions taken by white hats or black hats - whether the black hats react to something President Trump or his supporters have done, or if it is done after more false flag events, to shut us down to prevent us from taking action, you need to do the following:
PERSONAL ACTIONS
1. Leadership needs to get “off the X” NOW. Do NOT be home. Be somewhere else. If you ignore this warning and stay home, at the very least, when the lights go out, get out. Be ready to leave your home on a moment's notice at the first sign of any raids.
All patriots need to have a “Plan B, Plan C, Plan D” for you and your loved ones. A place for them to go that is NOT tied directly to you and several places for you to go that are not tied to you via digital footprint or records.
Be prepared to go "comms dark" by choice. Low tech or no-tech beats high tech. Grab a couple of burner phones. But also be ready to go completely radio/phone silent.
2. Grab all the CB and HAM radios you can NOW. You can find CB radios at truck stops. FRS radios from sporting good stores or Wallmart are also useful for close range (inside Neighborhood) comms. HAM radios will likely have to be ordered over the internet, so order them now!
Get a shortwave radio so you can monitor for news and info.
Even if you don’t know how to run a HAM or CB radio, buy it. Someone else will know how.
Buy extras for friends, family, neighbors. You WILL need those radios to communicate when the domestic enemies shut down comms (which they will at some point). Sort out your comms now. Don't wait.
3. Get all the fuel you can - gas, diesel, NOW. Get the fuel out of the underground storage tanks and into portable containers. Get all you can. You will need it. Borrow money or charge it if you have to. You can’t roll out to help save your country or even to protect your county unless you have fuel. When you think you have enough, double it. Then double it again. Do NOT presume you will be able to buy fuel during an emergency. A power blackout alone will make it hard to get the fuel out of underground storage tanks, let alone suffering a run on gas stations as everyone scrambles to get it.
4. Buy as much food as you can NOW. Double and triple whatever you have. Buy more for friends, family, neighbors. Borrow money if you have to, or charge it. Take out savings. Buy bulk non-perishables that can be cooked with just hot water (rice, beans, oatmeal. etc.), or canned goods. If you can afford it, buy freeze-dried "Mountainhouse" type camping foods (just add hot water). They can still be found in camping supply sections of big box stores. Get food, medicines, vitamins and minerals, and personal hygiene items (baby wipes, for example). Follow the Mormon advice of a three months supply of what you normally eat/use anyway, and then a year's worth of bulk long term storage foods.
PATRIOT COMMUNITY ACTIONS
1. Muster NOW in your County seat. Call together all Trump supporters, all patriots, all constitutionalists, all libertarians, etc. - all committed to liberty and limited constitutional government. Invite your constitutionalist LEOs and other current serving first responders. Call all patriots together in physical space, in a public muster. Come together and look each other in the eye and get to know each other and also begin the necessary process of vetting each other. You WILL get attempted infiltration by leftist moles, paid confidential informants, spies, etc. It's going to happen. Expect it. But you still must come together to become stronger, together, now.
You must sort out your grid-down emergency comms NOW. Sort out how you will communicate when there is no phone, no internet, no cell service. Use HAM radios, CBs, FRS, whatever you have, and whatever you can get. Again, CB radios can still be bought at truck stops. Do NOT wait till lights go out to sort out your comms. Get it done now.
At the muster, divide your man-power into two groups:
A. The Home Guard/Family Safe Unit. Those who are too old, injured, or otherwise unable to project out as first line defenders/responders. This Home Guard is CRITICAL. They will protect your homes and families, neighborhoods and towns, while the more physically capable project out. Even if you prefer to call these men militia (considering them part of the County militia), sort out how to differentiate the different purpose.
Within Oath Keepers we have a "Family Safe" program that is dedicated to watching over patriotic police, fire, EMS, and other first responder homes and families to keep them safe so the first responders can project out to do their jobs, even in the middle of an emergency. Feel free to use that term and form such a program in your neighborhood and town, with the Home Guard taking primary responsibility for your "Family Safe" program.
We have already seen Antifa and BLM targeting police and military homes, doxing them, and preparing to attack them. A Biden/Harris White House will only embolden these domestic Marxist terrorists, so expect it, and prepare to defend against them.
B. The County Militia (or call it a "County Guard" or "County Watch" or "County Defense Unit" or whatever if you are still too squeamish to call it a militia). These are the more fit and mobile who can serve as a QRF to respond to emergencies anywhere in the county. They will also be those who can project out to assist patriots in nearby counties, or at the state level. Some of them may even be willing to travel outside your state if needed. Form special expeditionary teams/units for that. Sort that out now. Perhaps you will call them "Minutemen" as the Founders called their more high-speed units).
Who will stay home and guard your homes while you roll out? Who will roll out? Decide now. Then form them into teams and units.
To be clear: EVERYONE (when home) is in the armed neighborhood watch and the armed town watch. Everyone assists with the "Family Safe" program, watching over the homes and families of local LEOs, EMS, Fire, etc. to protect them from leftist terrorists. The more fit serve as the QRF at the neighborhood and town level. They run to the sound of the guns. But when the more fit project out beyond the town, or beyond the county, the Home Guard has to take up the slack and take responsibility for the home front. Once you determine who is fit enough to project out as the county militia (or county guard, county watch, Minutemen, etc), have the men elect their officers. Yes, this can get messy, with ego clashes and cliques, but it is necessary. The men of a county elect the officers who will command that county militia. Period.
Sort out a standing order that if lights go out, or comms go down, you will respond by doing a stand-to at the neighborhood, town, and county level, with the Home Guard watching over the neighborhoods and towns while the "project out" militia or minute-men roll out, ready to go anywhere needed. If you STILL have not worked out emergency comms, one option is a default muster at the county seat if lights go out. But it's better to have emergency comms worked out so you don't have to be at a predictable known location just to link up.
2. Immediately Muster at the state level. Once you have formed your county units (or begun that process), call a muster at a central location within your state that you determine is the best place for all county militia to come to for a state muster.
No offense to currently existing militia groups, but I am talking about true COUNTY units made up of all the willing patriots in a county, who are from that county, under leadership who are also from that county, elected by the men of that county. Other existing groups? Your responsibility is to help make this happen. It's not about our groups, whether we are Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, or self-organized local or state level militia groups. It's about our communities. Form your community up and let the men elect their officers.
I recommend that this muster be near your state capitol but NOT in your state capitol. The domestic enemies of the Constitution are doing all they can to set up false flag events right now, across the nation. They WANT you to come armed to the state capitol where their paid provocateurs can rope innocent patriots into a staged false flag event. Don't give them what they want.
DO come together, but do it just outside the capitol in a friendly "red" county where you have a patriotic constitutional sheriff, county commissioners, county judge, etc. You know your own state. Sort out what makes sense based on your conditions, terrain, and culture.
In nearly every state, the state capitol is a "blue" zone, dominated by the left. With obvious false flag ops running right now, it's a bad idea to put yourself at the mercy of a leftist county attorney and mayor, or a hostile police chief, on ground they control in advance of your arrival, where black hats have plenty of time to set up their false flag traps. Yes, you have a right to free speech and assembly, and I myself have taken part in many armed marches and rallies by patriots in leftist dominated state capitols (we peaceably assembled, but we were also very well armed while doing so). There is a time and a place for that. But at this moment, I think it ill-advised because it's exactly what they want you to do. Take action based on what you want to accomplish, not what your enemy wants.
And remember, the goal of a state-wide muster is for all those newly formed county militia and Home Guard to come together, as units, under their own chosen leadership, so they all get to know each other, and so the leadership in particular gets to know each other, and so they can work up their methods for emergency comms and sort out what they will do in the event of a comms-down, lights out scenario. Will you have a default of coming together at a pre-designated rally point? The downside to that is obvious - you will be in a known place at a known time or window of time. But you would at least be together, which is better than being alone, isolated, and vulnerable to a raid or attack by bad guys.
Again, it is far better for you to work out legit, functional grid down comms (HAM, CB, runners, relays, scouts, etc) now so you DON'T have to muster in a predetermined, known rally point just to link up. But if you are still not squared away on comms when lights go out, you may have no choice (you can send scouts/representatives to make contact instead of sending entire units).
Regardless of where you do it, when you go to a state muster as a unified county unit, you go there with men you know (or are getting to know) under established leadership (even if new). You go as a unit, and it cuts down on the ability of provocateurs and confidential informants to infiltrate and rope you into a false flag.
Main goals of these musters are to organize for the future, to sort out comms and begin to organize at the state level for your mutual defense, mutual aid, and to prepare to defend the Constitution and our natural rights from the pending assault by enemies foreign and domestic. Get organized into units now, and get it all sorted out BEFORE the balloon goes up. And then let THEM come to you, on ground of your choosing, where you are strong and they are weak, just like the Founding Fathers did (more to come on that).
As always, we are not calling for the initiation of violence. We focus on defense of life, liberty, and property. But, we are also committed to defending each other, our neighborhoods, towns, counties, states, and our nation, and above all, defending the Constitution as we swore to do, against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and right now, that means against the communists and deep state traitors who have stolen the White House and stole a false majority in the US Senate, along with their street level terrorist allies, all of whom have already expressed their intent to trample on our rights (more to come on that in the next installment).
Now that it is regretfully becoming clear that President Trump will not be taking the decisive action we urged him to take, using the Insurrection Act and a declass/data dump, let's follow the Founders' game plan, using their strategies and methods, which focused first on declarations of illegitimacy, nullification (declaring unconstitutional acts to be null and void from inception, and refusing to obey them), unified mass non-compliance with unconstitutional and oppressive actions and then on self defense, mutual defense, and resistance when the domestic enemies of the Constitution come for us. That's how the Founders did it, and it worked. There is nothing new under the sun. Let us adapt their game plan to our current situation.
See Part II for more on that.
For the Republic,
Stewart Rhodes
Founder of Oath Keepers
Ok, Cy,
In reference to your video of Donald Trump finally conceding the election.........
Who is in charge now?
In reference to your video of Donald Trump finally conceding the election.........
Who is in charge now?
We the people.
hobbit
hobbit
dan wrote:Ok, Cy,
In reference to your video of Donald Trump finally conceding the election.........
Who is in charge now?
That is not the video I posted. Rewatch.
Transition is not the same thing as concede.
Should he concede? No. The evidence was a landslide win in favor of him in a second term which was subsequently nixed by the combined Dominion and cretin hijinx.
If I stole your house from you, would you just walk away without a fight of some kind?
If the Chinese actually invaded, would you pack up and move to India without so much as looking back?
The fight that is coming between the criminal NWO movement and the patriots is not something that can be stopped unless the military arrests the criminals in a global sweeping move. They've had four years to do that. Nada.
Now the NWO movement kypes an entire election so they can finish off the nation-state deconstruction. Now they strip us out of social media, shut down bankcards with no notice, inspect our social media postings to determine eligibiity for purchase of mandated insurance, fire from employment people who were present at a protest but did nothing illegal, threaten our families with "re-education camps" and termination with extreme prejudice...and Trumps video message was that The American People should be peaceful and just take it.
Go back a few posts and read my last conversation with Chrystal about what is America, the govt vs the People.
Just let them walk away with our Constitutional Republic into the sunset? We're to sit quietly and only whimper in our homes without lifting a hand to prevent it? Wrong answer.
The globalists come after Americans and we're just supposed to take it? What Oathkeepers has published above, does not surprise me and I'll not tell them to be silent nor peaceful. Not any more.
We are NOT weimar Germans, soviet peasants, or Romanians.
I have officially walked away from being a fog horn in the deep of night. They dug their own hole.
As to who is in charge? I'm not sure I care anymore, and every story I've reviewed says something different than the others.
Shrug.
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In other words, Cy, you are saying that Donald Trump is still in charge.
Ok.
Then why don’t we ask Donald who is in charge?
Ok.
Then why don’t we ask Donald who is in charge?
dan wrote:In other words, Cy, you are saying that Donald Trump is still in charge.
Ok.
Then why don’t we ask Donald who is in charge?
I didn't say he was in charge or wasn't in charge. I said there is a difference between Transition and Concede.
I said he should abide the People's vote. It was a landslide in favor of him in a second term.
In a sense it doesn't matter because the globals will try to murder him, in part because he knows too much, and in part because they can't abide he got into office in the first place. They'll never stop.
He can fight for what is right or he can go hide till they find him and nix him. That is his choice.
The fight is going to happen whether he's in it or not. The election was the last straw and they're already compounding it with more. You can't negotiate with a criminal movement that espouses a 95% PLANETARY depopulation agenda.
Just ask the 100 plus dead in the wake of Hillary.
Cy,
Did it ever occur to you that Donald was the ante Christ........ the forerunner?
Did it ever occur to you that Donald was the ante Christ........ the forerunner?
dan wrote:Cy,
Did it ever occur to you that Donald was the ante Christ........ the forerunner?
That's like asking if Pol Pot was an ante Christ, or the Green River Killer, or Obama, or Putin or Mao, etc. Or better yet, the Illuminist freak who founded WEF.
At some point the sheer volume of candidates makes so much noise it becomes a pointless question? There is ALWAYS something worse out there lurking waiting for a passive population to just let them run amok and be a one man ELE event.
You imply Trump is the ante Christ and call me a nut for refusing to tolerate a stolen national election, anti-social rampancy, and systemic despotism? Really? You already into that bottle of yours Dan? WTF.
Cy,
Please try not to put too many words into my mouth........
Let’s talk about the biblical myth of Babel.........
And then there is this.........
(cont..........)
Please try not to put too many words into my mouth........
Let’s talk about the biblical myth of Babel.........
If we wish to understand one another, we must all learn to speak from the heart........let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the more often and steadily we reflect upon them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me.
And then there is this.........
I mean, let’s not beat around the bush here........But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you.
(cont..........)
dan wrote:Cy,
Please try not to put too many words into my mouth........
Let’s talk about the biblical myth of Babel.........
If we wish to understand one another, we must all learn to speak from the heart.let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
Oh and you think that I don't? Since when is eschatology a paragon of wisdom? NOT knowledge. Wisdom?
Cy,
Please finish reading my previous post........
Please finish reading my previous post........
dan wrote:Cy,
Please finish reading my previous post........
Already did Dan. I don't find Bible Thumping amusing. I deliberately didn't respond.
What do you find amusing, Cy?
If we are going to play a game, you and me, it will be the only game in town.
This is called the Game of Truth....... GoT!
Have you got it?
Perhaps we are now in need of a philosopher king.
Perhaps we are approaching the Kingdom of God.
Or, is this too soon?
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If we are going to play a game, you and me, it will be the only game in town.
This is called the Game of Truth....... GoT!
Have you got it?
Perhaps we are now in need of a philosopher king.
Perhaps we are approaching the Kingdom of God.
Or, is this too soon?
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