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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Jake Reason Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:33 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    4:30PM EST

    It is logistically Impossible to "Lock Down" a city the size of Boston and its Suburbs, without weeks of planning;

    Strategic political and socio-geographic analysis,
    Multi sector cooperation and coordinative agreement,
    Extensive mobilization preparations, and
    Multi-Government collaborative Command structures.



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    "Do the Boston Bombings constitute a point of transition,
    a watershed which ultimately contributes to the
    gradual suspension of constitutional government?"

    - Professor Michel Chossudovsky


    You be the jury. PolyMontana.com has assembled many significant articles on the Boston Bombing.

    The PolyMontana email on Saturday, April 20, was the most highly read in PolyMontana history because so many readers forwarded their copy to their friends. Here are the new posts since Saturday:

    The “Chechen Connection”, Al Qaeda and the Boston Marathon Bombings
    Boston Bombings: How the FBI Fosters, Funds and Equips American Terrorists
    Martial Law: Boston Swat Teams order Americans out of homes at gunpoint!
    Boston Bombings point to Government Terror Operation
    Evidence that actors faked injuries
    Proof of a Fake Injury
    Introduction to: Boston Bombings point to Government Terror Operation
    “There will be a controlled explosion opposite the Library within one minute as a part of bomb squad activities”
    Explosive Proof Boston Marathon Bombing a Staged Terror Attack!
    Glenn Beck claims proof Boston Bombing was a False Flag Operation

    The most significant article is by Professor Michel Chussudovsky. Here are some excerpts from his article. Click here to read his full article.

    The “Chechen Connection”, Al Qaeda and the Boston Marathon Bombings by Prof Michel Chossudovsky,
    Nine thousand heavily armed police including SWAT teams were deployed in a manhunt to capture a 19 year old student at U-Mass, after his brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the alleged Boston Marathon terror mastermind was shot dead by police allegedly after a car chase and shootout with police.

    Prior to the conduct of a police investigation, the 19 year old student has already been designated as “guilty”. The fundamental legal principle of “innocence until proven guilty” has been scrapped.

    In the words of President Obama (a graduate of Harvard Law School), the Boston 19 year old student is “guilty” of heinous crimes (without evidence and prior to being charged in a court of law):

    “Whatever hateful agenda drove these men [suspects] to such heinous acts will not, cannot, prevail. Whatever they thought they could achieve, they’ve already failed…. Why did young men who grew up and studied here as part of our communities and our country resort to such violence?”

    What is implied is that even if the suspects are not tied to a Muslim extremist network, their embedded cultural heritage and Muslim “background” incites them –quite naturally– to commit acts of violence. How does this concept –which routinely associates Muslims with terrorism– repeated ad nauseam in the Western news chain, affect the human mindset?

    While the identity and motives of the suspects are currently being examined by police investigators, the Tsarnaev brothers have already been categorized –without supporting evidence– as “Radical Muslims”.
    Is the Boston tragedy being used by Washington to usher in a new wave of police state measures directed against different categories of “domestic terrorists?
    Is this catastrophic event being applied to foster public reaction against Muslims?
    Is it being used to build acceptance of America’s holy crusade –initiated during the Bush administration– directed against a number of Muslim countries, which allegedly “harbor Islamic terrorists”?
    The 19 year old suspect is being used as a patsy. He was not even born in Chechnya. While he and his brother had no connection to the jihadist movement, the US media is carefully crafting a “Chechen Connection” pointing to an inherent behavioral pattern associated with Muslims.

    The brothers spent 10 years in the U.S. during a formative period of their lives, exhibiting normal behavior for first-generation immigrants, said Mitchell Silber, a former intelligence official in the New York Police Department.

    There is evidence, however, from the testimony of family members that the Tsarnaev brothers were on the radar of the FBI for several years prior to the Boston bombings and were the object of recurrent threats and harassment.

    What is abundantly clear is that the US government is not committed to fighting terrorists.

    Quite the opposite. US intelligence has been recruiting and grooming terrorists for more than thirty years, while at same time upholding the absurd notion that these terrorists, who are bona fide CIA “intelligence assets”, constitute a threat to the American Homeland.

    The “war on terrorism” mindset builds a consensus: millions of Americans are led to believe that a militarized police apparatus is required to protect democracy. Little do they realize that the US government is the main source of terrorism both nationally and internationally.

    The corporate media is Washington’s propaganda arm, which consists in portraying Muslims as a threat to national security.

    At this juncture in our history, at the crossroads of global economic and social crisis, the Boston bombings play a central role. They justify the Homeland Security State.

    The evolving US Police State is thereby upheld as a means to protecting civil liberties. Under the guise of counter-terrorism, extrajudicial killings, the suspension of habeas corpus and torture are rightfully considered as a means to upholding the US Constitution.

    At the same time, the terrorists –created and supported by the CIA– are used to participate in “False Flag” terrorist acts with a view to justifying the conduct of a global military crusade against Muslim countries, which so happen to be major oil producing economies.

    While the Boston bombings are of an entirely different nature to the “catastrophic event” alluded to by General Tommy Franks, the administration appears, nonetheless, to be committed to the logic of “militarizing our country” as a means to “protecting democracy.”

    The Boston events are already being used to galvanize public support for an extended domestic based counter-terrorism apparatus.

    Do the Boston Bombings constitute a point of transition, a watershed which ultimately contributes to the gradual suspension of constitutional government?
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    Post by Admin Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:59 pm

    And then there is Bloomberg who in the wake of Boston takes the opportunity to grab the knife the Globals have stabbed the Constitution with and give it another twist:

    In the wake of the Boston Marathon bombings, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Monday the country’s interpretation of the Constitution will “have to change” to allow for greater security to stave off future attacks.

    “The people who are worried about privacy have a legitimate worry,” Mr. Bloomberg said during a press conference in Midtown. “But we live in a complex world where you’re going to have to have a level of security greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will. And our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change.”

    http://politicker.com/2013/04/bloomberg-says-post-boston-interpretation-of-the-constitution-will-have-to-change/



    I have a better idea. Let's deport anyone and everyone to some island in the South Pacific who can't abide by it. Criminals, politicians, public servants, foreigners. You name it. Clean the house.

    We can then sit back and watch the likes of Bloomberg and al cia-da bombers, street camera-huggers, military-industrial warmongers and anti-gun lovers howl for help and we'll see if anyone from the rest of the planet comes running to rescue them or if they leave the corruption to sit there and rot.

    I'd get a peculiar sense of satisfied justice to see something like that happen. And America would be a nice quiet, peaceful place again.

    Is that wishful thinking or a premonition?


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    Post by pman35 Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:27 am

    original link http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/20/the-cias-founding-of-al-qaeda-documented/

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    The Muslim Terrorist Apparatus was Created by US Intelligence as a Geopolitical Weapon

    Le Nouvel Observateur’s Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski

    Originally published 15-21 January 1998

    Translated by Jean Martineau
    (Editor’s Note: The following article and interview have been suppressed by Google, now a “black-ops” contractor. The background on US backing for the Chechen rebels totally debunks attempts to assign blame for the Boston Marathon bombings to any group other than American security agencies and their domestic and foreign contractors who were very obvious at the scene, before and after the attack we believe they staged. Without adequate background on how we got where we are, real information can easily be “shaken off” as conspiracy.
    If you want real conspiracy, read on and see who the very real conspirators are. G Duff for VT)
    Below is our translation of an interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski. It is important for three reasons. First, it flatly contradicts the official US justification for giving billions of dollars to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan in the 1980s, namely that the US and Saudi Arabia were defending so-called freedom fighters against Soviet aggression.
    “Not so,” says Brzezinski. He confirms what opponents have charged: that the US began covert sponsorship of Muslim extremists five months *before* the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. He says that after President Carter authorized the covert action: “I explained to the president that this support would in my opinion lead to a military intervention by the Soviets.” Second, the interview is instructive concerning so-called “conspiracy theory.” To be sure, there are plenty of nutty theories out there. And of course, there are plenty of just plain wrong theories.
    But as Brzezinski demonstrates, the US foreign policy establishment did, for want of a better word, conspire. Even as they claimed to oppose Muslim extremism, they knowingly fomented it *as a weapon of policy.* And they lied about what they were doing, pretending they were helping freedom fighters resist an invasion. In other words, deceit on two levels.
    One must ask oneself: if the US foreign policy Establishment used Muslim extremism as a weapon once, how can one argue *in principle* that they would not use it again? We say they *have* used it again; that they have used it continuously; and that we are seeing the fruits of this policy. Most recently we have seen the real essence of the Brzezinski doctrine in the horrendous events this past week in Russia (culminating in the school attack) and Israel (the double bus bombing).
    Brzezinski and his protégé, Zalmay Khalilzad, set up a corporation in 1985, funded by the US congress, to train the mujahedeen to sell reporters the lie that the mujahedeen were freedom fighters and victims of aggression (Associated Press
    U.S. Provides $500,000 So Afghan Rebels Can Tell Their Story
    AP, September 16, 1985, Monday, PM cycle SECTION: Washington Dateline, by JOAN MOWER
    Guerrillas in Afghanistan are about to get money from the United States government for a public relations campaign intended to bring their struggle against Soviet troops to the world’s attention.
    The money will train Afghan rebel journalists to use television, radio and newspapers to advance their cause. Reporters will be given mini-cameras to photograph the war inside Afghanistan.
    “It is the goal of this project to facilitate the collection, development and distribution of credible, objective and timely professional-quality news stories, photographs and television images about developments in Afghanistan,” said a notice in the Federal Register. The program will be overseen by Uncle Sam’s own propaganda arm, the U.S. Information Agency. Congress appropriated $500,000 to hire experts and may provide more later.
    In making the money available, Congress all but instructed USIA to consider an organization like Friends of Afghanistan, a new group whose board includes former Carter administration national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski, known for hard-line anti-Soviet views.
    USIA has solicited proposals, due Sept. 25 (1985).
    Friends of Afghanistan includes other American foreign policy luminaries such as Lawrence Eagleburger, a former undersecretary of state, and Dr. Zalmay Khalilzad, a Columbia University political science professor and some-time paid adviser to the State Department on Afghanistan.
    Afghan rebels, called the Mujahedeen, have been battling 100,000 Soviet troops who have occupied the rugged, mountainous country since December 1979.
    The Associated Press referred to Khalilzad as a ”some-time paid adviser to the State Department on Afghanistan.” This was in the late summer of 1985. Less than three years later Tass, the Soviet news agency, reported that Khalilzad was delivering the mujahedeen an important message from the State Department. Khalilzad told them that the State Department would continue to support them:
    a) only if they could consolidate control of Afghanistan and
    b) only if they maintained an attitude of implacable hostility to the government in Kabul.
    In other words the US ordered the mujahedeen not to make peace:
    ‘The United States has told the Afghan guerrillas that it would support them in an effort to form a provisional government if they consolidate their control of most of the country and meet other criteria,’ the newspaper New York Times today quoted State Department officials as saying.
    A top State Department official made it clear that the government must oppose ‘the soviet-backed regime in Kabul’ and said that the USA did not ‘accept the legitimacy’ of the authorities in Afghanistan. The relevant message was delivered to the rebels in the Pakistani city of Peshawar last week by Zalmay Khalilzad, a special adviser on Afghanistan to under secretary of state Michael H. Armacost. (” To Support Afghan Counter Revolutionaries” New York; The Russian Information Agency ITAR-TASS, May 6, 1988, Friday)
    BOSNIA
    Brzezinski’s interview has tremendous importance today. According to a Dutch intelligence report on Bosnia, in the early 1990s Pentagon intelligence worked with the Saudis and Iranians to bring weapons and mujahedeen terrorists the ‘Afghan Arabs’ – into Bosnia to indoctrinate and lead Alija Izetbegovic’s Muslim extremists in fighting the Bosnian Serbs.
    The same terrorists had been used against the pro-Soviet side in Afghanistan. Once again the media lied, claiming the Bosnian Serbs were fighting to destroy the Bosnian Muslims (i.e., genocide) when they were in fact defending their communities from the mujahedeen, and were allied with a large group of moderate Muslims.
    This picture appeared in the London Times on December 11, 1995. The caption reads:
    One of the Bosnian Army’s Muslim brigades marches through Zenica in a demonstration of strength by 10,000 soldiers.” Note that according to the Times these 10,000 troops constituted only one of “the Bosnian Army’s Muslim brigades…”
    During the 1990s, pictures like this were as rare as hen’s teeth in the Western media. Why? Because they graphically demonstrated that the media was lying when it claimed that the Bosnian Government was moderate and multiculturalist and so on.
    The white costumes these troops are wearing are the uniforms of Middle Eastern mujahedeen, not Yugoslav Muslims. The Bosnian Muslim troops wore them because they had been indoctrinated by Muslim extremists, including mujahedeen imported by Iran, Saudi Arabia and other extremist states, with the participation of Pentagon intelligence. In the early part of the Bosnian conflict (up until January 1993) Zalmay Khalilzad, the protégé of Zginew Brzezinski, was in charge of strategic planning at the Pentagon.
    In Afghanistan (as Brzezinski proudly states) and then in Bosnia, the US sponsored Muslim terror even as the State Department was officially condemning it. Because ordinary people would never support such a policy, it was sold to the public as support for freedom fighters (Afghanistan) or as defense of abused Muslims (Bosnia.)
    By the late 1980s Brzezinski’s protégé, Prof. Zalmay Khalilzad, was the top strategist of the Afghan war.
    Under the administration of Bush, Sr., Khalilzad was in charge of strategy at the Pentagon. We have substantial evidence that it was under Bush, Sr., not Clinton, that the US began assisting the mujahedeen in Bosnia.
    So, in both cases, we have Brzezinski’s protégé directing the use of Muslim extremism as a weapon against a secular state, with the media misrepresenting the nature of the fight. The Brzezinski Doctrine in action.
    2001: Brzezinski’s protégé Zalmay Khalilzad was appointed Senior National Security Director for Southwest Asia, the heartland of Muslim extremist terror…
    Khalilzad was in charge of US policy on the ground in Afghanistan before and during the 2001 war. He then personally chose the Afghan government. It was under his watch that the US and Iran cooperated in convening a top level conference to give Afghanistan a government based on Muslim religious law. Now he’s Ambassador and Special Envoy to Afghanistan.
    Even while Khalilzad was in charge of Afghanistan he was also the key man on the ground before, during and after the invasion of Iraq. He was in charge of political relations with Iraqi exile politicians and the Iranian and Saudi governments up until the fall 2003. A crucial period.
    GEORGIA
    His area of official responsibility included Georgia during the period when the US was intensifying the financing and training of the Georgian military. Russia accuses Georgia of aiding the Chechen terrorists.
    So Brzezinski has been the key hands-on strategist, the leader on the ground, in a vast area plagued with Muslim extremist terror during most of the so-called war on terror. Oops – did I say rzezinski? Sorry; I meant Zalmay Khalilzad…

    Brzezinski’s Interview with Le Nouvel Observateur

    Le Nouvel Observateur: Former CIA director Robert Gates states in his memoirs: The American secret services began six months before the Soviet intervention to support the Mujahideen [in Afghanistan]. At that time you were president Carters security advisor; thus you played a key role in this affair. Do you confirm this statement?
    Zbigniew Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version, the CIA’s support for the Mujahideen began in 1980, i.e. after the Soviet army’s invasion of Afghanistan on 24 December 1979. But the reality, which was kept secret until today, is completely different:
    Actually it was on 3 July 1979 that president Carter signed the first directive for the secret support of the opposition against the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And on the same day I wrote a note, in which I explained to the president that this support would in my opinion lead to a military intervention by the Soviets.
    Le Nouvel Observateur: Despite this risk you were a supporter of this covert action? But perhaps you expected the Soviets to enter this war and tried to provoke it?
    Zbigniew Brzezinski: It’s not exactly like that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene but we knowingly increased the probability that they would do it.
    Le Nouvel Observateur: When the Soviets justified their intervention with the statement that they were fighting against a secret US interference in Afghanistan, nobody believed them. Nevertheless there was a core of truth to this…Do you regret nothing today?
    Zbigniew Brzezinski: Regret what? This secret operation was an excellent idea. It lured the Russians into the Afghan trap, and you would like me to regret that? On the day when the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote president Carter, in essence:
    “We now have the opportunity to provide the USSR with their Viet Nam war.” Indeed for ten years Moscow had to conduct a war that was intolerable for the regime, a conflict which involved the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet Empire.
    Le Nouvel Observateur: And also, don’t you regret having helped future terrorists, having given them weapons and advice?
    Zbigniew Brzezinski: What is most important for world history? The Taliban or the fall of the Soviet Empire? Some Islamic hotheads or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
    Le Nouvel Observateur: “Some hotheads?” But it has been said time and time again: today Islamic fundamentalism represents a world-wide threat…
    Zbigniew Brzezinski: Rubbish! It’s said that the West has a global policy regarding Islam. That’s hogwash: there is no global Islam. Let’s look at Islam in a rational and not a demagogic or emotional way. It is the first world religion with 1.5 billion adherents. But what is there in common between fundamentalist Saudi Arabia, moderate Morocco, militaristic Pakistan, pro-Western Egypt and secularized Central Asia? Nothing more than that which connects the Christian countries…http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/20/the-cias-founding-of-al-qaeda-documented/http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/20/the-cias-founding-of-al-qaeda-documented/


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    of alleged Boston bomber - is the granddaughter
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    Post by pman35 Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:15 am

    in order to see all the pics in correct order you'll need to go to original link http://educate-yourself.org/cn/bostonbombingdidyouthink20apr13.shtml

    Ok Guys this was posted on the Monsanto Exposed facebook page just now , very scary article as you will see.

    Indisputable Photo Evidence That the Boston Marathon Bombing Was Staged
    Are You a Believer Or Do you Think?

    [Editor's Note: Update April 22, 2013. The individual shown in the photos below, who you are suppose to believe has just lost his right leg and the lower part of his left leg in the Boston Marathon explosion which occurred about 4 PM on April 15, 2013, is identified as Jeff Bauman. You will also see photos further below of a 2010 Army West Point graduate named Lt. Nick Vogt who had lost both of his legs in Kandahar, Afghanistan in 2011. You will discover a remarkable similarity of appearance between Jeff Bauman and Lt. Nick Vogt, but it's possible that they might not be the same person. However, the guy identified as "Jeff Bauman" in the photos seen below is surely an amputee actor who is pretending that his legs were blown off from a staged bombing near the finish line of the Boston Marathon.

    [New April 27, 2013 Update note: I'm now having increasing doubts that the "Jeff Bauman" seen laying on the red splattered bricks in the Boston Marathon explosion area on April 15th (and later taken down the street in a wheelchair) is the same "Jeff Bauman" seen in the hospital photos (further below) and on the Jeff Bauman donation page? When I first posted this article on April 20, I had noted that the face of the hospital "Jeff Bauman" looked fuller than the face of the April 15th wheelchair "Jeff Bauman." (his eyebrows also looked somewhat bushier). To study the differences, I've added a series of enlarged photos further below of the "hospital Jeff Bauman (A) ," the "donation page Jeff Bauman (B)" and the April 15th "wheelchair Jeff Bauman (C)" so readers can determine for themselves if we are seeing the same individual in all cases.]

    Watch the Youtube videos embedded near the bottom of this page for a common sense explanation of what is clearly a staged event. My guess is that no one was actually killed in the Boston Marathon "explosions.". The people who are seen covered in "blood" are likely cooperating agents and actors. We witnessed a similar, government-sponsored hoax in Sandy Hook Connecticut on December 14, 2012. The reason that "Jeff Bauman" remained in the staging area so long, while others with relatively minor "injuries" were taken away before him, was to allow enough time for actor Jeff to be photographed and video taped over and over again, before he was taken away inexplicably in a wheelchair (instead of a stretcher), considering and nature of his supposed injuries. Of course, the reason he was whisked down the street in a wheelchair (instead of being placed on a stretcher at the scene and immediately taken to the hospital in an ambulance) was to allow him the opportunity to display his ghastly (single bone, pirate-like peg leg) , "severed leg injury" to scores of newsmen with video cameras on the street and subsequently show up on the 6 O'Clock News hour. All of the individuals participating in this hoax are committing criminal acts of subversion, conspiracy, fraud, and treason against the People of the United States and should be prosecuted. ..Ken Adachi]

    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/bostonbombingdidyouthink20apr13.shtml
    April 20, 2013 (Forward courtesy of Tim Hicks)

    Indisputable Photo Evidence That the Boston Marathon Bombing Was Staged: Are You a Believer Or Do you Think? (April 21, 2013)

    http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/are-you-just-a-believer-or-do-you-think/

    Are You a Believer Or Do you Think?

    Posted by BMan ⋅ April 20, 2013 ⋅ 216 Comments
    Digger shared a link (http://www.bbmisc.com/tempor/showthread.php?20697-Boston-Bombing-Actor) with me that contains a sequence of events from a video that focuses on the double amputee that supposedly had his legs blown off. I want to share those with you here and ask you, especially if you have any trauma medical background (in the Armed Forces or ER or whatever).

    What is wrong with these pictures? (pictures and narrative by Fist-Of-Freedom)

    I’ve studied and graduated EMT-B certification with the state of Oregon. I’ve been on calls with heavy arterial bleeds, internal bleeding, fatalities, doa’s. I am speaking from direct personal experience with severe trauma.

    Here is a telling photograph of the amputee actor. I encourage readers to view the photo side by side with my analysis.

    http://www.kaotic.com/media/pictures…42b556ee65.jpg

    If you loose both your legs from explosive trauma half your blood is gone in one minute via the femoral arteries, you're dead after two. Bleeding out is worse with blunt force trauma (like shrapnel) because flesh is torn rather than cut, exposing more arterial and vascular tissue. The human body holds 5 to 6 LITERS of blood. If that really happened, you would see blood EVERYWHERE, the guy would be drenched in it. You would also see what’s called arterial spurting from the injury. Most likely he would vomit after turning ghost white from shock, then turning delirious or passing out. As for the “tourniquet”…

    It's not even tied off, it's suspended via gravity, which would literally do nothing to an arterial sever. There’s no pressure applied. There’s no knot with a turn stick for leverage. You can clearly see a gap in the nonexistent wrap job on his left inner thigh (left anterior proximal for you experts). His hands have no blood on them. There’s no blood on the ground. The color in his hands and lips shows good circulation.

    This is an actor. This is staged. How did they pull it off though? I can show you.

    Here in frame six on the left we see the the man with a hood setting up the fake leg wound prosthetics. His attention and hands are right there. The woman is acting as a shield covering what’s happening.

    [Note from Ken Adachi: I'm convinced that the phony left leg prosthesis seen on Jeff Bauman was already attached and in place as the pretense unfolded. The hooded accomplice likely took off coverings that was concealing the prosthetic prior to the " blast." ]

    Frame 6



    Here in frame eight the prosthetics are in place. Amidst all this chaos, seconds after the explosion, the hooded man takes the time to put on his sunglasses which is a signal.
    Frame 8



    Here in frame nine with sunglasses now on, the hooded man and the woman make eye contact, signal received.
    Frame 9


    In frame eleven, after receiving the go signal, the woman makes an open hand gesture, the direction both of them are looking, signaling the staged injuries are in place for cameras. The prone amputee raises his left prosthetic injury into the air over the woman’s shoulder. No blood is present. The bone is dry, no blood on his leg above the knee, no blood on the woman, no arterial spurt, nothing.
    Frame 11



    Here in frame fourteen, the woman turns her head right but is still holding up that open palm signal with her left hand. The hooded man again busies himself pouring fake blood on the pavement behind the woman. The amputee has both fake injuries in the air now. There is still no blood on his legs, his skin above the injury is clean and dry.
    Frame 14



    Frame twenty, the fake blood and prosthetics are in place. The amputee gives an open hand gesture along with the woman to bring the cameras in. We’re now twenty frames in and still not a drop of fresh blood from a double leg amputation. His legs are dry, the woman is dry and unscathed. Both are making the same hand gesture.
    Frame 20



    These are actors. This is staged. It was flash powder. There was no crock pot nail bomb. There are no bombers, only patsy. If your looking for a gunman, look at the Army in the streets of Boston. Share this knowledge with everyone.

    ATS

    Something about this entire thing smells to high heaven. When have you ever heard of someone with a blown off leg not bleeding? Some make the claim that it was cauterized, but obviously, the picture of them wheeling the guy out on the wheelchair shows ‘blood and gore’ (a cauterization is a burn that seals the wound). Something changed between these images and when they wheeled him out in front of the cameras.

    And there is more analysis from Fist-Of-Freedom:


    source: http://www.bbmisc.com/tempor/showthread.php?20697-Boston-Bombing-Actor

    This image was taken by a third party photographer seconds after the first explosion. There is clear evidence of false flag staging here. The man in the red coat and baseball hat on the right is kneeling down giving directions to the guy in the white T-shirt. Also looking to this pair for direction are the woman sitting to the right and the man in a hood and sunglasses who set up the double amputee prosthetics.

    Notice the relaxed posture and face of the hooded man. Notice also the calm prepared posture of the woman sitting down on the bottom right. See how her shirt sleeve is severely torn, yet her skin underneath is clean and clear of injury and blood. From where she’s sitting look right to the bottom right corner and you can see an unmarked bottle of fake blood.

    Look to the left and see the cowboy hat man standing there doing nothing. This is the same man who will pretend to hold the tourniquet of the fake amputee actor later on. Look to center of the photo and you will see the african woman moving herself away from the amputee actor since her shielding him from camera’s job is over. Next to her is a woman with red hair leaning on her elbow.



    Compare this now with another photo taken seconds later. Putting them side by side is very helpful.

    The man with the hood and sunglasses, who was just sitting up looking fine and healthy after fixing up the amputee actor’s prosthetics, is now on his back being evaluated by two people. Notice the rips in his jeans have no sign of blood or injury on the skin. The woman with red hair however is in the exact same pose as a minute ago. Meanwhile the double amputee actor is completely ignored by everyone when he is clearly in the most dire need of attention. There is a small amount of fake blood around him where the African lady shielding him used to be, she has disappeared. What happened to her? Compare this photo with the first in my post.

    [Note from Ken Adachi: Never in the course of human history has genuine human blood EVER looked like the fire engine red paint-like liquid seen spilled on these bricks. We have to conclude that a large number of these people in the immdeidate vicinity of Paul Bauman are also agents/actors since so many seem to ignore him while attending to others with lesser problems. ]



    The african woman who was sitting up, shielding the hooded man and amputee actor’s prosthetic rigging, giving hand signals, looking left and right, having no visible blood or injuries, is now covered in blood and strapped into a spine board stretcher.

    In a real medical scenario the amputee would receive immediate treatment or die from bleed out. The fact this actor woman is removed from the scene via stretcher while the double amputee is left on the ground is ludicrous. He would be dead from blood loss before they could even begin spinal assessment procedures involved in moving a patient to a stretcher. Not to mention his blood loss would be over five liters, enough to cover the entire scene around these people in a thick puddle.



    From firsthand experience with trauma in the field of EMS work, this is not real. These are actors. This is all staged.

    I know that many just want to believe. But I can’t help but think. So much doesn’t add up



    So, are you just a Believer or Do You Think? (Thanks, Digger)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMMK5-VyADo&feature=player_embedded

    UPDATED 4/21/13

    KPatrickRyan shared an updated picture of the Bauman guy in the hospital (visited by Bradley Cooper). Compare him to the wheelchair man (Vogt???) and tell me who’s who.

    [Ken Adachi note: I find the hospital Paul Bauman looks slightly different than the wheel chair Paul Bauman photographed on April 15. The cheeks seem fuller on this guy and his eyebrows look a little thicker. Lt. Nick Vogt's pinky finger on his left hand is missing, when viewing his push ups video, while the guy in the hospital seems to have a left pinky finger, but a bandage over his left index finger.



    From April 16 to April 21, 2013, "Jeff Bauman" has rasied "$611,351 ... by 13,265 people in 5 days" (that's more than a half MILLION dollars) from his Facebook donation page: http://www.gofundme.com/BucksforBauman.

    Jeff Bauman Donaton Update: As of April 24 2013, Jeff Bauman's donation page reports $685,555 sent by 14,870 people in 8 days. (Can the Profiles in Courage Presidential Medal be far from him now? And how about a boulevard or airport named in his honor? )

    Jeff Bauman Donation Update, as of April 25, 2013, $695,112 raised by 15,063 people in 9 days.

    Jeff Bauman Donations Update, as of April 27, 2013, $724,050 raised by 15,634 people in 11 days.

    Jeff Bauman Donations Update: as of April 28,2013, $729,065 raised by 15,707 people in 12 days.

    Quote:

    "We have created this fundraiser to raise money to help support our dear friend, Jeff and his family. As most of you know, Jeff was severely affected by the tragedy that had taken place at the Patriots Day Boston Marathon this year. Throughout this difficult time we want to help in every which way we possibly can to get Bauman back on track as soon as possible.Medical bills are going to start rolling in, let's get a head start on helping out Bauman and his family! Every dollar counts!!"



    The amputee in the wheelchair shown below is Army Lt. Nick Vogt, a 2010 West Point graduate, who reportedly lost his legs from an explosion in Kandahar, Afghanistan in .November, 2011.




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    Head crops for comparision

    [Note from Ken Adachi: I cropped the head of the Army amputee shown above. Is "Jeff Bauman" the same individual seen in each head crop photo shown? Note the matching hairline on the right side of the face between guy in the Army photo and the wheelchair guy. From a Youtube video of Nick Vogt doing pushups, I noticed that Nick Vogt is missing the pinky of his left hand, while the hospital guy has a bandage over his left index finger, but seems to have an intact pinky finger.The face on the hospital guy looks a little fuller than the wheel chair Paul Bauman. ]

    Lt. Nick Vogt Jeff Bauman in hospital Jeff Bauman in wheel chair 1 Jeff Bauman in wheel chair 2 Lt. Nick Vogt, "Wounded Warrior" Lt. Nick Vogt



    April 27, 2013 Addendum, Photo Comparison

    Question: Is the "Jeff Bauman" seen in the hospital (A), and on the Jeff Bauman donation page (B), the same "Jeff Bauman" seen in the wheelchair at the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013?



    While the cheeks of the April 15th "wheelchair Jeff Bauman" look thinner than the "hospital Jeff Bauman." the most telling difference is the moustache hairline. The moustache hair growth of the "wheelchair Jeff Bauman" seems to dip below the corners of the mouth in both of his April 15 wheelchair photos, while the moustache hair growth seems to end substantially above the corners of the mouth in the hospital and donation page photos of Jeff Bauman.


    Are these two different individuals?



    MORE FACTS THAT THE BOMBINGS IN BOSTON WAS STAGED,Part 1

    April 27, 2013 Update: : Youtube has recently created a new stumbling block for viewing these videos in the immediate wake of the Boston bombings. In order to restrict the number of people viewing these videos, they created an age verification "sign-in" before allowing you to see the video. Their pretext is "community guidelines." Up to April 26 or 27, you could still see the embedded videos posted here, but they linked the "age verification" to these embedded videos as well, so it's now necessary to go to the Youtube links given below and "sign in" in order to watch the videos. The videos are well worth seeing, as the narrator shows you comparative photos of people who actually just had their leg blown off, and the utterly contrived, incredulous performance of the amputee/actor, "Jeff Bauman" and his phony, obvious prosthetic "legs" in his debut performance at the Boston Marathon bombings on April 15, 2013. .

    (If embedded link does not display the video, then go to original Youtube link to view these videos)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KamUgbo59nE




    MORE FACTS THAT THE BOMBINGS IN BOSTON WAS STAGED (enlarge screen to full size for greater clarity. Watch entire clip)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GaplTm8kzI




    (More Boston Bombing videos from same poster:
    https://www.youtube.com/user/havf8/videos?view=0 )

    ***

    Boston Bombing: What You Aren't Being Told
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpu6_kArb9U&feature=player_embedded#!




    More articles on the Boston Marathon hoax:

    “Contractors” at Boston Marathon Stood Near Bomb, Left Before Detonation
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/contractors-at-boston-marathon-stood-near-bomb-left-before-detonation/5332069

    Something's Rotten in Boston: Who's Investigating the FBI Investigators?:
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article34699.htm

    Simulated battlefield uses amputee actors
    http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/11/29/battleground-training-amputee-actors?clusterId=#videoplayer

    Calls and Tweets Bombard CSPAN: Boston Marathon Bombing a false flag to take away more rights
    http://activist-post-forum.947009.n3.nabble.com/Calls-and-Tweets-Bombard-CSPAN-Boston-Marathon-Bombing-a-false-flag-to-take-away-more-rights-td4026128.html

    Published on Apr 16, 2013

    Censoring The Horrific Only Makes Conspiracy Theories Stronger
    By: Chris Geo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2bYdY...

    Boston Global Report, Officials: There will be a Controlled explosion opposite
    the Library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities. http://truthfrequencyradio.com/wp-con...

    Illuminati Card Game Depicting Attack during Marathon Race http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-u98fv0hqzrY...

    Boston Victim Was not victim He was a Amputee Veteran Of The Afgahan War http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos...

    Video: Family Guy Episode Predicted Boston Marathon Attack http://www.watchfamilyguyhq.com/watch...
    http://www.dailypaul.com/282098/video...

    Agent, 31 of 96 Photo's:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04..

    216 Responses to “Are You Just A Believer Or Do You THINK?”

    [First few comments posted here.All comments posted here: http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/are-you-just-a-believer-or-do-you-think/]


    I agree. I wuz an EMT for nearly 28 years, and for six of those I wuz a EMT-P, a paramedic, working on ambulances on my days off from the Fire Department, a career FD, working 24 hour shifts.
    Loved my job, so most of the time at the FD I volunteered to be staffed at busy stations, where we were first responders and saw my share and then some of blood and gore. Horrific vehicle accidents, shootings, knife wounds and industrial accidents and NEVER have I seen blood the color in those pics.

    Posted by Anonymous | April 20, 2013, 11:47 am

    Thanks. It looks so unreal to me. Two legs gone and virtually no blood… the last person attended to as noted in the pictures… the seeming “set-up” of the performance.

    It just does not add up.

    Posted by BMan | April 20, 2013, 1:25 pm
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    Like the post says, when the femoral artery is severed, blood gushes everywhere, that artery is so big that the blood gushing out looks like a garden hose filled with blood is spurting, so where’s all the blood splatters?

    You can bet that it would be all over the place, if the leg had been severed.

    Posted by gregbacon | April 20, 2013, 2:11 pm
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    Is there any way that it could have been “cauterized”? In BOTH legs at the same time?

    And what about the makeshift tourniquet? Is there any way it would have worked to stop the flow of blood as presented?

    Posted by BMan | April 20, 2013, 2:46 pm
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    ‘Cauterized’ implies that the severed artery was closed with an application of direct heat, so that’s out.

    It would have bled BIG TIME and anyone within 2-3 feet would have blood splatters all over them, that I don’t see.

    As for the tourniquet, it looks makeshift and difficult to tell how it was applied. It wasn’t donte by a medica.

    Posted by gregbacon | April 20, 2013, 3:29 pm

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    The soldier pictured is Nick Vogt, the Boston bombing victim “actor” is Jeff Bauman

    Posted by Thinking and SEEING | April 21, 2013, 9:02 am

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    i remember one time working the box out in the county , this guy got both legs ran over by a train and funny thing is there was no blood just major crushing so i have seen werid thing’s emt-b career FD…..texas

    Posted by james temple | April 21, 2013, 9:34 am
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    When you cut an artery cleanly then it bleeds out. When arteries are torn the muscles around the artery contracts and the muscles put enough pressure on the arteries to stop them from bleeding out. Although in a while the muscles relax and the artery is free to bleed out. Think of it like an Umbilical cord, We cut them so we need to stop the bleeding, animals on the other hand chew then and that stops them from bleeding out. I hope that helps you understand.

    Posted by Dave | April 21, 2013, 12:11 pm
    source: http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/are-you-just-a-believer-or-do-you-think/

    Related

    Boston Bombing: "Craft International" (Private Military Contractors) Photographed at Bombing Location Before Attack (April 18, 2013)
    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/craftinternational17apr13.shtml

    E-Y Comments

    Subject: Boston Marathon Amputee Describes ‘Life-Altering Experience’ - ABC News
    From: Darren
    Date: Thu, April 25, 2013
    To: "Ken Adachi"

    Hi Ken,

    I thought this video was interesting because the guy who rescued this girl was a New England Patriots football player and describes the 'massive amounts of blood' from a foot and partial leg being severed.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/04/boston-marathon-amputee-describes-life-altering-experience/

    Darren

    ***

    Hi Darren,

    I have no way of knowing if either of those explosions caused genuine injury or not. I feel certain that the Jeff Bauman character is an amputee actor, though. It's also obvious that many other people present were actor/agents in addition to Bauman (but that doesn't mean that all were actors).

    One would have to carefully investigate the background of every person making the claim that they lost a foot etc. to determine if the story holds up to close scrutiny or not.

    ABC News, of course, is pro Pentagon, corporate spin from top to bottom. You should know that.

    Based on this article and video, there's no way of knowing with absolute certainty that this woman's story is real or not. It could be true, but it could also be a fabricated account. Statements from a famous football player don't equate to irrefutable evidence of anything. He could be the victim of deception or he could be a player in deception, or he could be telling thhe truth. We can't be certain without investigation. Considering the effort the government has put into this hoax, however, I would EXPECT numerous"survivors' to come forward with their stories. Wouldn't you? There is so much overwhelming evidence that clearly points to government planning and execution, that only a fool would believe otherwise. And to fill the obligatory patsy role, they viciously destroy the young lives of two uninvolved Russian brothers so they could have a convenient set of patsies to hang their story on.

    The government has been falsely blaming innocent patsies for their acts of subversion and sabotage for a long, long time now. Remember the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993? How about the Oklahoma City, Murray Building bombing in 1995? Waco? Ruby Ridge? 911? Both Kennedy assassinations? Etc. etc.

    You can't trust ANYTHING you see or hear on mainstream news. I would reserve judgment until you are certain of the facts. but remember, the TRUE facts are often difficult to determine.

    Naturally, the government is going to pull out all the stops to stem the damage of the fiasco of actor Jeff Bauman and the red paint on the bricks. So we're going to be hearing a lot of stories of courageous and upbeat bombing survivors from the Ministry of Truth, ABC News. You better believe it.

    Regards, Ken


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