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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Jake Reason Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:33 pm

    4:30PM EST

    It is logistically Impossible to "Lock Down" a city the size of Boston and its Suburbs, without weeks of planning;

    Strategic political and socio-geographic analysis,
    Multi sector cooperation and coordinative agreement,
    Extensive mobilization preparations, and
    Multi-Government collaborative Command structures.



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    Post by Admin Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:27 pm

    Bingo

    Beta Test is being reported in progress.

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    Post by pman35 Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:02 am

    I spent several months living in Boston and its huge lol


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    Post by Jake Reason Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:32 am

    Yes, a significant exercise.

    They'll be lots of talk about this.
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    Post by Jake Reason Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:00 pm

    PROOF! Boston Marathon Bombing is Staged Terror Attack

    Alex Jones Reporting

    At this posting time, there have been 1,430,487 views of this video.




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    Post by Admin Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:41 pm



    LT Col speaks and confirms - False Flag

    Like I pointed out Boston Beta Test.

    Check out infowars photo find of the guys in black with black backpacks...spec ops busted. The LT is correct.


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    Post by Admin Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:53 pm

    Photos of Boston under Martial Law

    http://www.infowars.com/battlefield-usa-de-facto-state-of-martial-law-declared-in-boston-pics-from-the-war-zone/


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    Post by pman35 Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:32 pm

    I guess that whoever staged this, bit of more than they could chew , or didn't think people would be aware of the events leading up to the Boston marathon. Maybe all the coffee has been drunk and now the people are waking up to the bs thats going on . How much more can the human race take , has all the humanity been taken away , I think not , its more a case of Too comfortable in my shoes , why should I do anything. There is always more than 1 solution to every problem. I always try to look at the bigger picture before i'll comment or at least throw a thought into the process.


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    Post by Jake Reason Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:25 am

    Even the mainstream media is becoming hip to this.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYeielGedNs

    Alex Jones summarizes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0xDS054qCA

    The Mainstream are NOT reporting in one accord. Unlike 9/11 whereas they all agreed to support the same story, the Boston Event is unraveling with divergent reporting. And it is being caught by the people and reporters alike.

    It appears to me that there is an internal PTB War playing out here.

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    Post by Jake Reason Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:12 pm

    Obama advisers say they will urge president to veto CISPA

    http://rt.com/usa/president-veto-bill-cispa-975/

    Bang! Senate shoots down gun control

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/bang-senate-shoots-down-gun-control/

    Analysis: Boston lockdown - Millions of residents were ordered to stay in a “lockdown” on Friday

    http://www.jpost.com/Features/Front-Lines/What-message-is-US-sending-with-a-Boston-lockdown-310424


    All this in the Same Week!?

    I purposely selected 3 country's News Reports above, to emphasize the Global impact of these unprecedented issues, and their outcomes. Each one of these current events were weeks or months in the planning.

    Above stories...
    1st - Power to control internet.
    2nd - Power to control public right to bare arms.
    3rd - Power to control massive civilian populations by force.

    Same week - Coincidink?


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    Post by Admin Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:45 pm

    Jake Reason wrote:Obama advisers say they will urge president to veto CISPA

    http://rt.com/usa/president-veto-bill-cispa-975/

    Bang! Senate shoots down gun control

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/bang-senate-shoots-down-gun-control/

    Analysis: Boston lockdown - Millions of residents were ordered to stay in a “lockdown” on Friday

    http://www.jpost.com/Features/Front-Lines/What-message-is-US-sending-with-a-Boston-lockdown-310424


    All this in the Same Week!?

    I purposely selected 3 country's News Reports above, to emphasize the Global impact of these unprecedented issues, and their outcomes. Each one of these current events were weeks or months in the planning.

    Above stories...
    1st - Power to control internet.
    2nd - Power to control public right to bare arms.
    3rd - Power to control massive civilian populations by force.

    Same week - Coincidink?





    Correct!

    No such thing as Coincidinks in our paradigm. Everything has an imperative involved....

    And everyone called us 'patriots' who have screamed "foul!" for years nuts. Not so nuts now.

    We have the history of all this stretching back over a 100 years. Maybe now the mainstream public will actually pick up those books and read the research.

    Once they understand where we've been, how we got here, then they'll be ready to begin entertaining real solutions to the corruption problem we have.

    If everyone works together on resolving the corruption problem then maybe there's still a chance a 2nd American Revolution can be avoided.

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    Post by Jake Reason Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:22 pm

    Admin wrote:
    We have the history of all this stretching back over a 100 years. Maybe now the mainstream public will actually pick up those books and read the research.

    It does look like there is a chance for a postponement of enforced NWO.

    I note that the Alex Jones' youtube I posted yesterday, now has 1,920,861 Views. 1/2 a million more!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axQtAFtmtVA&

    This example indicates there may now be too many minds growing aware of a real global conspiracy, that a PtB adaption of plans and related time-targets, might be reviewed.

    I have long felt the baby-boomer generation will not permit a forced NWO. But it could go either way. They might throw in the towel because they are too tired to put up a fuss.

    This last week will be a major test of our times.
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    Post by Admin Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:42 pm

    Jake Reason wrote:
    Admin wrote:
    We have the history of all this stretching back over a 100 years. Maybe now the mainstream public will actually pick up those books and read the research.

    It does look like there is a chance for a postponement of enforced NWO.

    I note that the Alex Jones' youtube I posted yesterday, now has 1,920,861 Views. 1/2 a million more!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axQtAFtmtVA&

    This example indicates there may now be too many minds growing aware of a real global conspiracy, that a PtB adaption of plans and related time-targets, might be reviewed.

    I have long felt the baby-boomer generation will not permit a forced NWO. But it could go either way. They might throw in the towel because they are too tired to put up a fuss.

    This last week will be a major test of our times.


    Agreed. I am finding a growing number of baby boomer generation flocking the patriot community. I have heard that many local militias across the States are experiencing a flood they can barely adapt to.

    This is where things get very dangerous. I had heard some time before all these events that if the NWO folks ever felt cornered or like they would end in total failure that they would employ the nuclear option out of desperation. This may be literal or biological. And as we know North Korea has been groomed for the fall guy with China either playing along or not realizing that they are set to be an optional dupe.

    So if a city gets vaporized who gets the blame? NK or China. It'd kill two birds theoretically...the NWO crowd would escape the debt they saddled the Chinese with and leave them holding the bag for the event...and allow the martial law situation for depopulation purposes. That's one of the scenarios suggested on the wind.



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    This is what we fought the first American Revolution over. The people of Boston appear to have meekly submitted to what their ancestors went to war against. Well I suppose we can all scratch Boston off the list of real Americans. King George’s redcoats came and went without so much as a sniffle. This isn’t just what martial law looks like. It’s what castration looks like. ~ Comment posted to Infowars

    http://www.infowars.com/shocking-footage-americans-ordered-out-of-homes-at-gunpoint-by-swat-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-4092282


    Why would anyone come to the rescue of a city of people who won't even attempt to resist stuff like this?

    If I was someone working to rescue cities from un-Constitutional violators, I'd probably pass up a place like Boston in favor of a city that makes an effort to defend themselves from stuff like this.

    My two cents.


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    Post by Admin Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:15 am

    http://beforeitsnews.com/strange/2013/04/nuke-event-in-la-april-28th-facebook-page-memorial-set-up-days-ago-2448402.html

    Hmmmm....see the pics


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    Post by Admin Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:50 am

    If we were able to count the roofing tin shingles installed at the roof to wall location from satellite in 2001 how come this: "MILITARY PHOTOGRAPHERS READY TO DEPLOY AROUND THE GLOBE"?

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    April 22, 2013

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    ** INTELLIGENCE SATELLITE IMAGERY DECLASSIFIED FOR RELEASE
    ** MILITARY PHOTOGRAPHERS READY TO DEPLOY AROUND THE GLOBE


    INTELLIGENCE SATELLITE IMAGERY DECLASSIFIED FOR RELEASE

    An enormous volume of photographic imagery from the KH-9 HEXAGON
    intelligence satellites was quietly declassified in January and will be
    transferred to the National Archives later this year for subsequent public
    release.

    The KH-9 satellites operated between 1971 and 1984. The imagery they
    generated should be of historical interest with respect to a wide range of
    late Cold War intelligence targets but is also expected to support current
    scientific research on climate change and related fields of inquiry.

    The film-based KH-9 satellites were officially declared "obsolete" by the
    Director of National Intelligence in 2011. The KH-9 imagery was nominally
    approved for declassification in February 2012, and then it was finally
    declassified in fact this year.

    ODNI spokesman Michael Birmingham said that approximately 97 percent of
    the satellite imagery that was collected from the 19 successful KH-9
    missions was formally declassified by DNI James R. Clapper on January 11,
    2013.

    "The small amount of imagery exempted from this declassification decision
    will be removed prior to its accession to the National Archives (NARA) and
    will remain classified pursuant to statute and national security interests,
    and reviewed periodically to determine if additional declassification is
    warranted," Mr. Birmingham said last week.
    The imagery is being transferred to NARA in stages, with final delivery
    scheduled for September 2013, he said.

    The transfer is being implemented pursuant to a November 2012 Memorandum
    of Agreement between the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and
    the National Archives, under which the Archives is "responsible for
    providing public access to the declassified imagery."

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/othergov/intel/kh9-moa.pdf

    Reishia R. Kelsey of NGA public affairs confirmed that the imagery "will
    be made available to the public following its accession to NARA" later this
    year.

    The National Archives was not prepared last week to set a precise date for
    public release. But an Archives official said that "NARA intends to make
    these records available to the public at our research room in College Park,
    MD as soon as possible following transfer."

    If successfully executed, the release of the KH-9 imagery will constitute
    a breakthrough in the declassification and disclosure of national security
    information. It will be one of several discrete but momentous shifts in
    secrecy policy during the Obama Administration that have often gone
    unrecognized or unappreciated. Though these declassification actions took
    years or decades to accomplish, they have been downplayed by the White
    House itself, which has seemed curiously ambivalent about them. They
    include the public disclosure of the size of the U.S. nuclear weapons
    arsenal, the routine publication of the annual intelligence budget request,
    the release of the Office of Legal Counsel "torture memos," the
    declassification of the KH-9 satellite itself, and others.

    The KH-9 imagery is being processed for public release pursuant to the
    1995 Executive Order 12951 on "Release of Imagery Acquired by Space-based
    National Intelligence Reconnaissance Systems." That order had been
    effectively dormant since the Clinton Administration, when the last major
    release of intelligence satellite imagery (from the CORONA, ARGON and
    LANYARD missions) took place.

    The declassification of the KH-9 imagery is a massive undertaking, Mr.
    Birmingham of ODNI said last year.

    "For context, and to grasp the scope of the project, the KH-9/HEXAGON
    system provided coverage over hundreds of millions of square miles of
    territory during its 19 successful missions spanning 1971-1984," he said. "It is a daunting issue to address declassification of the program
    specifics associated with an obsolete system such as the KH-9, which
    involves the declassification of huge volumes of intelligence information
    gathered on thousands of targets worldwide during a 13 year time period."

    http://blogs.fas.org/secrecy/2012/10/hexagon_imagery/


    MILITARY PHOTOGRAPHERS READY TO DEPLOY AROUND THE GLOBE

    Just as law enforcement relied upon surveillance cameras and personal
    photography to enable the prompt identification of the perpetrators of the
    Boston Marathon bombing, U.S. armed forces increasingly look to the
    collection of still and motion imagery to support military operations.

    Combat camera (COMCAM) capabilities support "operational planning, public
    affairs, information operations, mission assessment, forensic, legal,
    intelligence and other requirements during crises, contingencies, and
    exercises around the globe," according to newly updated military doctrine.

    COMCAM personnel are "highly trained visual information professionals
    prepared to deploy to the most austere operational environments at a
    moment's notice."

    COMCAM units "are adaptive and provide fully qualified and equipped
    personnel to support sustained day or night operations" in-flight, on the
    ground or undersea, as needed.

    "Effectively employed COMCAM assets at the tactical level can potentially
    achieve national, theater strategic, and operational level objectives in a
    manner that lessens the requirement for combat in many situations," the new
    doctrine says. "Their products can counter adversary misinformation,
    disinformation, and propaganda and help commanders gain situational
    awareness on operations in a way written or verbal reports cannot."

    "The products can also provide historical documentation, public
    information, or an evidentiary foundation... for forensic documentation of
    evidence and legal proceedings. They can provide intelligence documentation
    to include imagery for facial recognition and key leader engagements, and
    support special reconnaissance."

    The newly issued COMCAM doctrine supersedes previous guidance from 2007. See Combat Camera: Multi-Service Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures for
    Combat Camera (COMCAM) Operations, April 2013.

    http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/atp3-55-12.pdf


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    http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/04/boston-bombing-did-you-notice-this-video-2450272.html?utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2Ft2Ig&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse&utm_medium=verticalresponse&utm_campaign=&utm_source=direct-b4in.info


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    Post by Admin Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:54 am

    Was this intended to be a follow up to the Boston event?
    http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/04/missile-used-in-texas-this-sure-the-hell-looks-like-it-to-me-2450200.html



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    Post by Admin Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:15 am

    Another side note - Just what kind of fishing is going on here?: http://www.wbir.com/rss/article/265845/2/Shots-fired-overnight-at-TVA-Watts-Bar-Nuclear-Plant

    Excerpts:

    A TVA spokesperson confirmed that a security officer patrolling TVA Watts Bar Nuclear Plant in Spring City was involved in a shootout with a suspect Sunday at about 2:00 a.m.

    TVA spokesperson Jim Hopson said the subject traveled up to the plant on a boat and walked onto the property. When the officer questioned the suspect, the individual fired multiple shots at the officer. The officer shot back, and when he called for backup, the suspect sped away on his boat.

    At least one bullet struck the patrol vehicle, but the officer was not injured in the incident.

    TVA officials labeled the incident as an "unusual event," which is the lowest level of its four emergency classifications.


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    Could any of the above have a relation to this recent event?:

    At our last “meeting” several weeks ago, we were advised by a High Ranking Official of the State Guard that they stopped vehicles of this type coming from KY into TN. The troops were wearing very distinct uniforms for the Dept. of Homeland Security that were not recognized and the men they stopped were Eastern European, probably Russian. Apparently, there is some type of FEMA/DHS camp somewhere in Kentucky?

    After receiving the above email, we spoke on the phone, I wanted to find out more information about the Russian/Eastern European DHS troops that were handling the armored vehicles.

    During our phone conversation. They told me that the uniforms were not typical DHS uniforms but they had Eagles on their sleeves and it was stressed these were different DHS uniforms than regular ones. The Russian/Eastern troops were not armed that were in the DHS uniforms and they were very polite to the State Militia. They were stopped from coming into Tennessee. This person told me that in Gatlinburg, Tennessee people are reporting being questioned and stopped by DHS that are Russian. I was also told that the high ranking official mentioned Kentucky FEMA camps.

    Source: http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/03/tennessee-state-militiaguard-has-stopped-dhs-armored-vehicles-from-kentucky-russians-with-dhs-eagle-uniforms-2583388.html

    Date 3-04-13


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    Post by Admin Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:00 pm

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=514056885321310&set=a.161012857292383.36284.160485844011751&type=1&theater


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    Post by Jake Reason Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:11 am

    Wow Cy, you were very busy here yesterday. Much to read. Thank you
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    Post by Admin Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:09 pm

    Thanks Jake. It's just a typical day for me. The only difference was I posted some of my reading/viewings to this thread at OMF. Usually I don't post stuff I review anywhere mostly because I find people's lack of interest or difficulty with making connections in the way I do frustrating.

    Shrug.

    It's easier to be called a nut then it is to get people see what I do.

    I guess you could call me lazy.

    But some day's I actually get a bug in my bonnet and put in the effort.

    I know everyone who frequents OMF are well aware of what's going on, so my laziness is no statement on our regulars. It's just my own small bit of despondency squeaking through.

    I had a run in with a local in my area last night who couldn't even see the correlations between a multi-millionaire waltzing into our area and attempting to buy up all landowners property in our area...the equivalent area of a small east coast state in our country.

    He will with little doubt live to see troops on the street of our small town and the surrounding area, removing the few remaining landholders to be relocated as planned to some other place completing what the millionaire buyer has begun.

    But there's nothing to see here. We move along.

    Unfortunately it means some of us will one day disappear into the woodwork once again...centuries returning in full cycle. Unfortunately now there's no "new world" to flee to. The wisdom of those like Ambrose who went through such a relocation centuries ago doesn't exist anymore. Nor is there the wisdom of the later individuals who opted to stand with Washington against the British. There is no here to advise or impart the hard won wisdom of those experiences.

    There is only us. We're it. We will soon choose. And we will sink or swim.


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    Post by Admin Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:23 pm

    Boston preps for events that encroach ever closer.


    As Forewarned, The Irish Savers Have Just Been "Cyprus'd", And There's MUCH MORE "Cyprusing" To Come
    http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-04-23/forewarned-irish-savers-have-just-been-cyprusd-and-theres-much-more-cyprusing


    and


    Brasscheck TV via aweber.com
    10:08 AM (2 hours ago)

    to me
    Cyrellys

    They passed the Cyber Intelligence Sharing
    and Protection Act (CISPA).

    Aaron Swartz...

    He fought and defeated SOPA, a law similar to
    CISPA which Congress just passed while we
    were all paying attention to the goings on in
    Boston.

    Swartz was also a Harvard-recognized
    expert on institutional corruption.

    The Feds took over a minor case he was involved
    with and turned it into potential multi-decade
    prison sentence for him.

    The claim is that he committed suicide in despair
    over the case. The reality is he was in a positive state
    of mind when he died and he was a fighter.

    So how did he really die?

    Video:

    http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/22044.html



    and then there's the rats bailing off the sinking ship:

    Max Baucus (MT) retires.


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