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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by pman35 Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:38 am

    originally posted by gary on Jun 19, 2010, 10:02pm


    An article released from the CIA's internal "Studies in Intelligence" reveals the existence of a National Security Agency paranormal program, which was previously reported based upon information provided by unnamed sources.

    A footnote found in an article written by Gerald K. Haines for the CIA's classified "Studies in Intelligence" confirms the existence of a rumored National Security Agency psychic research program.

    Gerald K. Haines is the National Reconnaissance Office historian.

    Previously, sources to STARpod.org, including one of the psychics who worked with the program following 9/11, identified the NSA as the successor to the now-declassified Defense Intelligence Agency program nick-named STAR GATE. The STAR GATE program was made public in 1995.

    The footnote is found in the declassified CIA-published article called "CIA's Role in the Study of UFOs, 1947-90: A Die-Hard Issue." The article is available to read at the CIA's website.

    Haines writes, "CIA also maintained Intelligence Community coordination with other agencies regarding their work in parapsychology, psychic phenomena, and 'remote viewing' experiments. In general, the Agency took a conservative scientific view of these unconventional scientific issues."

    He then adds in the footnote, "There is a DIA Psychic Center and the NSA studies parapsychology, that branch of psychology that deals with the investigation of such psychic phenomena as clairvoyance, extrasensory perception, and telepathy."

    The footnote also mentions possible CIA involvement when extraterrestrial aliens arrive here on Earth:
    originally posted by gary on Jun 19, 2010, 10:02pm

    "The CIA reportedly is also a member of an Incident Response Team to investigate UFO landings, if one should occur."

    Curiously one of the sources, who provided information concerning the post-9/11 NSA psychic program to investigative author Gus Russo, claimed that some of the operations to remote view foreign intelligence targets had been blocked by "an unknown extraterrestrial source," suggesting the program involves more than psychic perceptions.

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    http://starpod.org/viewpoint/1006191.htm


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    Post by pman35 Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:43 am

    originally posted by mildmage on Jun 20, 2010, 2:34am

    My thoughts on the matter is they have the signal and it is fed into computer banks at fort meade filtered and then analyzed. Much more standardized and reliable then having humans with emotions and preconcieved ideas in the mix. In other words the computers are doing the remote viewing... meh just another one of those crazy notions I get at times.

    But then what i'm after is related but very different, what I would like to see is how they used those computers to mind teleport children into their lab environment for training in mind (quantum) warfare. Closest I can get to this is Mitre, and their DEW systems, perhaps multi-tasked? ... Don't mind me too much ...technically just another nut with crazy ideas... maybe someday the right documents get declassified ...one can just hope I guess.
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    Post by pman35 Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:44 am

    originally posted by lee on Jun 20, 2010, 11:17am

    Thanks, Gary. That's very interesting!

    Coincidentally, I recently watched Dr Hal Puthoff's excellent presentation to the Arlington Institute on the topic of remote viewing. The following excerpt struck me as potentially significant:

    ".... we ended up with separate contracts with the Navy, the Air force, Army, with some places I still can't name, and finally, the Defense Intelligence Agency came in as kind off an oversight/umbrella function" - 03:15


    Note that NSA is pretty much the only agency not named above by Dr Puthoff, suggesting the possibility that they may have initiated a separate program to run in parallel with DIA's STARGATE, which remains classified and is possibly still ongoing, as suggested by Russo's source.

    TAI Presents: Dr. Harold Puthoff - Part 1

    TAI Presents: Dr. Harold Puthoff - Part 2

    The video above is an outstanding presentation from Dr Puthoff and is vastly at odds with the depiction of remote viewing research and development in John Ronson's The Men who Stare at Goats. Of particular interest was Dr Puthoff's description of how they managed to convince the CIA's die hard skeptic "Fraud buster", that they should continue funding the research - by asking him to act as the remote viewer himself!

    Here also, for those who are interested, is a direct link to the document referenced above in Gary's article:

    CIA's Role in the Study of UFOs, 1947-90: A Die-Hard Issue
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