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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:29 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Bjc could stand for lots of things.  It’s possible to suppose that it stands Baltimore Junior College.  It’s possible to suppose that c stands for chick, which is short for chicken.  

    Talk about a pink slip, yesterday, puts me in mind of being laid off, which puts me in mind of a retrospective.........

    And a topic header does require at least ten characters.......

    The allotted length for a thread is 40 pages...... giving us a chance to take the occasional breather...... as the show goes on.


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:12 am

    Dan wrote:Chivo, in his own anarchic fashion, practices chaos magic on me.

    I just do what comes natural.

    Happy to be of service.
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    Post by hobbit Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:31 am

    The serpent is how consciousness is detectable as meandering upon the lattice geometry.

    I have followed such in frost covered grass fields and looked back to see My snake like pathways following consciousness.

    if I focus upon the lattice matrix it is dead straight pathways.

    There are special locations where the opposite spin serpents meet and writhe about each other, the entrance to portal doorways are always placed there.

    It takes two to tango.

    The meandering rivers of water adhere to the meandering flows of consciousness as water is the carrier of consciousness in abundance.

    The seperation of the serpents is horizontal to the surface, look to the cloud layers, this is how the serpents entwine about You, they enable creation and sustain such, they are attracted to life ( a heart centred entanglement of both serpent flows)

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:41 am

    Sounding kinda Taoist hobbit.

    Consciousness wants to be guru, god, shiva.

    Parabrahman.

    It wants to be a true maker.

    But my opinion is consciousness is a trickster.

    A spoiled child.

    We idolize our consciousness.

    Barfield argues consciousness has evolved along with the evolution of physical phenomena.

    In our time, we are still ignorant of our participation in phenomena, but we have what Barfield calls “mechanomorphic collective representations,” which have become idols.

    We idolize the snake and synchronicity because we just can’t see through our mental sickness.

    Entheogens somehow allow us to see beyond our idolized representations.

    Idolizing anything is what the zen call sickness.

    What do people do here on OMF?

    They bring their idols.

    Easy pickens for smelly goat.

    Smash the idols.

    Our collective representations were born when men began to take the models, whether geometrical or mechanical, literally.

    Our literalness concealed the metaphoric nature of our representations. Barfield further explains, “a representation, which is collectively mistaken for an ultimate — ought not to be called a representation. It is an idol. Thus the phenomena themselves are idols, when they are imagined as enjoying that independence of human perception which can in fact only pertain to the unrepresented.” In creating idols, we build objects which have their own independent existence and relate to us as humans in a very particular way which is completely constrained by our representation of them as objects. In our representations as idols, we cut ourselves off from participation because we set up phenomena as other than ourselves.

    There is nothing other than ourselves here.

    There is no world in and of itself.

    Nervous systems make the world.

    The world is beginning to “hunger for iconoclasm.”

    Art 🖼 itself has become an idol.

    Everything is art.

    I think we are learning to create fully self conscious.

    But before we can do that, we have to get past our representations, our Great Sickness.

    The serpent and daimon are representations that help us to overturn the order when needed.

    Dragon 🐉

    To me is the merging of the serpent and daimon symbolically.

    The dragon guards the way.

    I’m sorry, silly discussions on disclosure and religion and drugs aren’t going to help.

    Participation with this, not idolizing this, is how to live.

    Write the poetry.

    Make the art.

    Smoke the J.

    Say and write the words.

    Move and express.

    Share yourself.

    This is participation with appearances.

    It isn’t more thinking.

    Great art captures the changes in collective consciousness.

    Barfield was saying final participation is the fully realized polarity between rationality and imagination which allows for the emergence of something new, the creative expression of humanity in words.

    He thought poetry our highest expression.

    One can soar participating with words, the Logos.

    “consciousness is also the actual material in which she works. Consciousness is to her what their various mediums (marble, pigments, etc.) are to the other arts; for words themselves are but symbols of consciousness.”

    Barfield is here prioritizing consciousness over materiality, which anticipates his phrase “interior is anterior”.

    It’s easy to see when one is idolizing the representations once one has participated deeply with the symbolic and actual happenings.

    What has opened me up is consciously participating, not arguing style.

    Being here with this.

    I will never cease to demand you smash your idols.

    If you get within arms reach of me, I’ll smash them, but that doesn’t have the same impact as one being brought to this themselves within themselves and realize their own sickness.

    The moment you hold your Jesus statue in your hand or Sophia or Buddha or Yahweh or the Serpent.

    And you realize, this is nothing, smash that damn image and participate with these representations instead.

    Do you want to call it channeling?

    Of course it is.

    We oscillate with this and resonate.

    Hobbit is a little energizer bunny on the flow.

    There is great upheaval underway, but it is only our idolization that is shifting.

    The people do not need new idols, maybe in the short term, we are experiencing hyper-idolization.

    It is terrifying to most because we have idolized all this and our idols are melting.

    Hopefully we don’t nuke it all.

    That would represent a terrible lack of imagination.

    If we go that far, if consciousness chose suicide?

    We were not worthy of this.

    Your idol or god is not special, it’s all special.

    Your full participation is pretty special.

    I have fully participated with a few non-morons here.

    It was a pleasure to meet you, but the idolators are boring and lost.

    But I’m here for them if nothing else.

    I know the terror of letting your idols go.

    But what a sight to see a human being self aware, pure genius.
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    Post by hobbit Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:34 am

    Your Barfield, and the vast majority are blind to consciousness, thus they think We must create it.
    It creates ALL.

    It contains all information and every encoded living entity radios out and receives back the information it needs to be that which it is encoded to be.

    The serpent like meanderings are a consequence of the straight line geometries that create local vortex locations and every vortex has a dominant cross feature with opposite spin formations ( swastika) next to each other.

    When I go off rambling following consciousness whatever I am thinking of is intensified and radioing out  thus receiving back what is been focussed upon, I sleep directly on a cross feature of E/W 86 degrees and N/S flows with the E/W flow centred through My head. My dream reality is more vivid than this reality.

    I am fortunate to live here in the shires close to such as Avebury and stonehenge and all the other megalithic sites that are built to interact with consciousness, Avebury is amazing .


    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=avebury+stone+circle+diagrams&qpvt=avebury+stone+circle+diagrams&form=IGRE&first=1&scenario=ImageBasicHover



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:05 am

    Great post on final participation smellz.

    I give it a solid 5 meows.


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    Post by hobbit Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:51 am

    https://dragondreaming.wordpress.com/ley-lines-dragon-lines/

    Dragons/serpents are all the same spiral based representations of non visible flows of consciousness.

    You reader are a tiny copy of this planet, and when You know any scale of how this system operates then You know how it operates at all scale.

    As above, so below.

    I have become totally at one with these flows, and a mutual respect develops, I know they enable creation and dissolvement in an eternal manner.

    Dans alpha and omega are in constant play, but relative to the surface of this planet and our life spans there are very large alpha and omega reversal timings where the serpents spin around a pole , as such and then reverse in their spin, guessers call this location black holes, and talk utter shit about gravity crushing everything, I cannot think of them other than knob heads.


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:14 pm

    That’s cool.
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    Post by hobbit Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:45 pm

    Just to clarify for some about directions.
    Compass is rubbish, and has nothing to do with how nature operates, but it is the current go to direction device, same with measure, nature has it's own measure  very close to feet and inches, but not exact.

    There is a chap here in England who bothered to check the bearings of over a thousand churches across England and Wales, I will link to His findings as what he stumbled upon was the lattice grid local to each church, and relative to compass the bearing E/W went from 86 to 94 degrees, more modern churches have been constructed to compass and will not operate as the Norman churches do as accumulaters of consciousness ( holy spirit)

    The lattice grid that is detectable via dowsing is composed of one inch wide lines ( super high frequency carrier lines)
    And to sleep to comply with this locally needs a basic dowsing knowledge.


    https://archive.is/MRYPy

    Think of why We face so called east when praying, and why muslims face towards their black box in mecca
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:28 pm

    The fanatic is always hiding their secret doubt.
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    Post by dan Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:44 am

    1444z..........

    Yes, Chivo, thank you for the Barfield refresher.  

    We can never get enough Barfield.  

    But, if one is going to speak of consciousness, one also has to speak of McKenna and Muraresku.  

    Chivo seems to be leaving M&M out of his equation.  

    And there is something that M&M want desperately to leave out of their equation.  

    They want to jettison time.  

    Barfield will have none of it.  

    Who is going to win this battle?  

    Without the dimension of time, consciousness is almost nothing.  

    Is time an idol?  Chivo&hobbit would have us believe this.  

    Time is about Creation.  

    Time is about persons...... is about sapience and the Logos.  

    We cannot make it to our final participation if we cannot understand the origin.  

    We can understand neither Alpha nor Omega if we cannot understand b,j&c.  

    Why is that?  

    It should only take two points to define a line.  

    Ok, but time is not a line.  Time defines the CTC...... the Ouroboros.  It takes three points to define a circle Surprised:.....?

    But it’s not really a circle...... pace, Buddha.  

    Ok, Buddha is one of the foci of the ellipse, if you will.  

    The MoAPS is the other foci.  j is right there..... in the middle of the Metanarrative.   The three points define the ellipse that is the CTC.  

    Alpha and Omega are the two foci of the elliptical CTC.

    Without those three points, you are flying by the seat of your pants 👖.  

    There is nothing wrong with that, but come on.........!  

    The good Lord didn’t give us sapience..... for nothing!  


    1540.........

    The Omega is our portal back to the Alpha....... by way of the Monad.  

    The internet manifests the gravity of the Monad.  

    The internet manifests Agape, with electrons and photons.  

    And then there is the God molecule.........

    Where would we be without the God molecule?  

    We would be in a great fog.  

    If you can understand the God molecule, you can understand atoms ⚛...... you can understand electrons and photons.  

    There is your handle on Creation...... along with Anthropics.  

    Do Alpha and Omega have to be personified?

    Well, they do have to be incarnated into the Metanarrative....... just like the jguy.  

    They are the two supporting characters....... doing cameos for the Monad.

    It’s a small world, quantitatively...... and personally, given that persons, each one of us, are at One with the Monad.  

    Don’t worry, it’ll work out in the wash.  

    And the virus 🦠 molecule is just our portal to the God molecule.  

    And, poor donny, he got his little ass blindsided....... he was hoping that he, with his little chaos word magic, could turn it into another flu 🤧.  It was foot 🦶 who spoke of the telomeres.  Yes, donny, I think foot 🦶 forgot to explain the telomeres to you.  

    Yes, donny, if you walk softly, you want to carry a big stick....... it does wonders on the school yard bullies.  

    Teleology is all about the telomeres, and the strategic placement thereof.  

    Chivo&hobbit are about to meet their Telomere.


    1740..........

    Yes, poor Chivo....... he has gone the route of M&M......

    They suppose that Creation was some sort of sideshow...... a fairytale..... a tale full of sound and fury, as told by an idiot.  

    Or simply maya.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:37 am

    I respect Barfield a great deal, could almost write a Masters thesis on him. Maybe I will, just for myself.

    McKenna spent last 10 years of his life lying, or so his brother says.

    I have my psychedelic experience.

    Which I have mostly integrated.

    My view is not complete or fully formed or expressed.

    I don’t need McKenna’s views, no one needs ours, yet we persist.

    As soon as one can, they have to go their own way.

    I’m on the edge of something huge, for me anyway.

    One must be careful not to settle things.

    “A person who has had the misfortune to fall victim to the spell of a philosophical system (and the spells of sorcerers are mere trifles in comparison to the disastrous effect of the spell of a philosophical system!) can no longer see the world, or people, or historic events, as they are; he sees everything only through the distorting prism of the system by which he is possessed. Thus, a Marxist of today is incapable of seeing anything else in the history of mankind other than the “class struggle”.

    What I am saying concerning mysticism, gnosis, magic and philosophy would be considered by him only as a ruse on the part of the bourgeois class, with the aim of “screening with a mystical and idealistic haze” the reality of the exploitation of the proletariat by the bourgeoisie…although I have not inherited anything from my parents and I have not experienced a single day without having to earn my living by means of work recognised as “legitimate” by Marxists!

    Another contemporary example of possession by a system is Freudianism. A man possessed by this system will see in everything that I have written only the expression of “suppressed libido”, which seeks and finds release in this manner. It would therefore be the lack of sexual fulfillment which has driven me to occupy myself with the Tarot and to write about it!

    Is there any need for further examples? Is it still necessary to cite the Hegelians with their distortion of the history of humanity, the Scholastic “realists” of the Middle Ages with the Inquisition, the rationalists of the eighteenth century who were blinded by the light of their own autonomous reasoning?

    Yes, autonomous philosophical systems separated from the living body of tradition are parasitic structures, which seize the thought, feeling and finally the will of human beings. In fact, they play a role comparable to the psycho-pathological complexes of neurosis or other psychic maladies of obsession. Their physical analogy is cancer.”

    ― Valentin Tomberg, Meditations on the Tarot: A Journey into Christian Hermeticism

    Consider what spell you are under maybe.

    One must remain vigilant against themselves.

    Ideas are so powerful in children’s minds.



    The stream runs deeper than one could possibly imagine.

    No, Dan isn’t here yet.

    Not smelly enough yet.

    I AM eating your lunch and dinner.

    If you hear and listen to voices, they will lock you up.

    But I let them speak.

    Here the looney speaks.



    This journey into muppet mind and madness is a shamanic journey to recover the pearl, the gift or what was apparently lost.

    Perhaps history is just our story of our decent into matter, into Hell.

    If only a fairytale could wrap it all up.

    But there is no answer to our queries.

    Just this.



    It is obvious why the virus and being sequestered at home.

    Look how Trump and his ilk fights to make sure we are not still too long.

    Withdraw oneself into the secret world of symbol and they have lost you.

    This is the second birth and first death.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:17 pm

    A dude is infected with ease instead of disease.

    This is the way a dude lives enlightened.

    Enlightenment is nothing magic.

    It is simply discovering your ease and being able to return to ease quickly.

    Our natural state of free fall.

    You can go to that super receptive state anytime.

    That’s the gift super concentration can give.

    In the storm, you can be at ease.

    Free of disease.

    No one can take it.

    It’s really all you got or will ever find.

    The rest is imagination and thinking and what happens.

    You will wobble, no one is innocent, how quickly you get back to ease is the measure of a dude.

    And where one dude goes, so goes all.

    If you are all worked up, can you calm down?

    Breathe.

    Now it doesn’t matter, does it?

    For has accused me of being overly sure, no no muppet, nothing to get upset about is all.

    Sure of what?

    Death, as far as I’ll go, and not dressing it up at all.

    There is nothing from ease that is not playful.

    You can’t abide your ease or you can.

    Shrug.

    What is there to get upset about?

    Why is anyone so hungry they would kill the world?

    Both kind of people appeared here.

    “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”

    I am certain of nothing and I don’t think I ever met a wise person, humans don’t seem to exist to be wise, but we do enjoy our ease.

    Do me better than passive concentration and ease and living in between these states.

    Show me the YouTube, or book or ideology or philosophy that demonstrates your ease.

    What do we resonate into the world?

    Ease or disease?

    I have witnessed glimpses of left foot’s ease in his poetry and the same for dan.

    They may be fairly cultured muppets tied into the power structure.

    Dan accuses me of being an agent chaos.

    Yes, the easy side of chaos.

    Gotta find a way to abide chaos.

    You think you are above it?!

    Ha, that’s a fall waitin to happen.

    Let’s just all take er easy.

    And then your ease will spread, it always does.

    It’s infectious.

    Disease or ease?

    What are you mostly naturally?

    This is all self evident to the open minded muppet who points the finger back at their head and laughs and laughs, realizing they are already dead 💀!!!
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    Post by Foot Mann Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:38 pm

    The Chicken will the teaching soon. Before the rise of a New Moon. But the Chicken does not have the Rune. So the Chicken cannot play the Tune. But with philosophy he is Attune.
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    Post by dan Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:51 pm

    Before Friday.........
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    Post by Foresaperire Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:41 pm

    Foot is right about the telomeres: https://faseb.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1096/fj.202001025

    Consistent opt-in epigenetic testing (preferably from home within a smart city ecosystem)  would allow for an evolution to take place within the species.
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    Post by hobbit Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:41 am

    Dan,

    https://www.workmenforchrist.org/DailyBibleStudies/matthew-713-14-the-straight-and-narrow/

    I trust You have listened to the hobbit?
    Consciousness follows straight and narrow pathway ( one inch wide)

    consciousness enables and sustains life , it is the holy spirit.

    With the correct supply our defense system will protect our vehicle.

    It is the light, but most are as if blind to the light, it is not about fear, but of adoration, personal with NO CONTROL BY OTHERS.

    We are all one in consciousness, it is all.

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    Post by GSB Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:42 am

    Trump to take 'good, strong look' at whether there are UFOs
    The president replied, 'Well, I'm gonna have to check on that'


    https://www.foxnews.com/science/trump-good-strong-look-ufos

    In an interview with Fox News on Sunday, President Trump said he would take a "good, strong look" at whether UFOs exist.

    "Sunday Morning Futures" host Maria Bartiromo asked Trump point-blank whether the objects exist, to which the president replied, "Well, I'm gonna have to check on that. I mean, I've heard that. I heard that two days ago, so I'll check on that. I'll take a good, strong look at that."




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    Post by U Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:47 am

    Me and Gary must have posted at almost the exact same second, now that is strange. Feel it all around indeed.
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    Post by dan Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:59 am

    Gary,

    The only real question is whether this phenomenon is extraterrestrial or inter dimensional.  

    And, if it is the latter, what are the eschatological implications?


    hobbit,

    Consciousness an inch wide...........

    Don’t be silly 😜, hobbit.


    Fores,

    With Darwinian evolution, you are very much in the wrong ballpark.

    You have no clue what the BPW section is about....... it is about the small, personal, inter dimensional world.

    If you wish to refute the BPWH, you must do so explicitly, not by sneaking materialist concepts in the back door.

    The BPW section is about immaterialism....... in case you missed the handwriting on the wall. Darwin will just have to go fish 🎣.



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    Post by hobbit Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:06 am

    Dan,

    You have not been listening.

    I never said anything about consciousness been only one inch wide .

    The straight and narrow path it travels upon is one inch wide, and acts as a carrier pathway.

    You are been the stupid deaf one, in Your arrogance You are blind.

    The geometry of the carrier lines enables creation at all scale, and enables creation and sustains such.

    No thing can operate without consciousness, it is lifes battery been charged up constantly.

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    Post by dan Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:49 am

    Poor hobbit,

    You still don’t get it....... comparing consciousness to electricity.  

    The BPW is about mind only........ there is nothing besides the cosmic mind, silly goose.  

    If you are going to dispute anything, that is where you have to start.
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    Post by Foresaperire Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:51 am

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    [Fores, please state your point.  This is not a cartoon show.  
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    Post by Foresaperire Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:45 am

    If the BPW is "mind only" then why didn't Jesus or other enlightened beings appear only as such? It's not a valid position or statement. They appeared in the "flesh" - M&M argues that the basis of religions that have shaped the planet's belief systems utilized a material tool - a bridge between chemistry (science) and religion. The tools I describe in my previous posts are no different. The BPW requires these bridges. The current framework is clearly broken that you cling to Dan.
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    Post by hobbit Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:29 pm

    Dan,

    Consciousness is operating across all dimensions, those dimensions are created in the geometry of the one inch wide carrier sheets ( they appear at our scale to be lines)

    consciousness carries all information and enables creation of matter in 3D, our vehicles are such, as is all living 3D entities.

    Our eternal selves are in 5D and occupy the heart pinch point of our vehicles.

    Our local consciousness field can only contain a limited amount of information and it is easily programmed, once such programming is rammed into it is when humans become BELIEVERS of that programming, and fight to the death to be correct, hence stupid religions that force compliance to such ( such programming is occurring presently with the distancing and masks shit)

    Your resort to constant riducle of My posts and demeaning nature of such displays Your compliance to Your BELIEF programming.

    I have no such, and am open to the information when dowsing with no limit imposed by any BELIEF.

    A BPSW can only be achieved by correct understanding of how universe operates, and living in conjunction with such, at one with it, not as at present with so called science ( BELIEF)

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    Post by Foresaperire Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:51 pm

    There is an anesthesiologist (*hint), Dr Stuart Hammerhoff who has collaborated with physicist Roger Penrose (who just won a Nobel Prize last week in physics) on a theory of consciousness, postulating that the DNA of cells act as antennas to download information stored in the universal field of information, Christians call it ‘The Book of Life’ , the Hindus call it the Akashi Field, Ervin Laszlo calls it the A Field and has written several books about it, Laszlo is the best known general systems theorist in the world, has been nominated for a Nobel Prize twice and runs a global think tank in Italy.

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