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I’m attempting to start a new thread 🧵.......

The previous attempt.....  the ‘Bj-Gz’ thread.... can no longer be posted to, for some unknown reason...... only the existing posts can be edited.

Perhaps this was a cosmic glitch...... called stop the press.... while we consider the following possible flaw in the BPWH......

to whoever????, is the great pretender.

hobbit

hobbit,

Of course, all of us are Great Pretenders........ pretending to not be God.  

The goat just pretends a little harder than the chick !


1400Z.........

It will not be easy for the goat to stop pretending that he is not God........ it will not be easy for any of us.  

But the chick might have a real Princess to help him stop pretending...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEO1xT8e8PM&t=98s  


1500Z..........

Yes, we’re all on a mission here....... our errand into the Wilderness..... East of Eden.........

We are here to become the best possible communicants with God....... so that we’ll be the best possible guests at the Banquet in the sky .  

Poor Chivo/ ...... doesn’t know the difference between the sky and a hole in the ground....... we are a hole in Paradise.  

Yes, sports fans , this was only supposed to have been a game of pokatok....... http://bestpossibleworld.com/nexu54.htm#pokatok , but we got so obsessed with this game, on Mount Olympus, that we we couldn’t hear God shouting at us....... All ye, all ye.... in free.  

Now, sheltering in place, down on the Earth , we might begin to hear..... to heed the beckoning...... to sense our reckoning.....


1630Z.......

Princess and chick are gonna get zoom working...... then you might want to be watching out........ for the sky to fall, etc........



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I said I don’t know.

The rest you just made up in your faulty imagination.

Age does bring senility.

You can be so wrong in so many ways Dan.

It’s your sport and art.

You notice Dan said nothing about himself in his meandering post.

He’s a pusher and the one who claims to know most, knows the least.

If you don’t like my swing Dan, it’s cause you ain’t got it.

I don’t trip anyone up.

They do just fine tripping themselves up.

I watch you trip around all the time.

I simply said I don’t trip moment to moment.

I flow because I stopped struggling.

Not because of anything I know or do.

So what have I done?

What can I claim?

Nothing.

I present that to all to show no one is really doing anything nor needs to.

I encourage you to feel the way around you.

I do not deceive people.

I do not deceive myself.

Of course, if you are full of lies, you will never meet me.

If the Princess just puts in a cameo on zoom , and says anything other than the chick is a liar and cheat.......... it will all be over...... but the shouting!

If you can understand the premise, then you will be invited to join us, and be witnesses to history.



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that’s my my premise. Do I get to join now?

No, never mind. I’m not into exclusivity. Besides we are, all,“in free,” right?

Any time anyone clams to have something none of the rest of have I

1627Z........

wk,

I think you miss chick ’s point......

Chick is claiming to be the first to be able to prove that we are all God......

If you would like to discuss this further, just join the zoom meeting......

Here’s the meeting #...... 417 609 9117.  


1633z......

wk,

True, but it still needs to be demonstrated to the world ........

And this can be done, now, in real time.

No..... yes?



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You don’t have to prove anything to me or anyone else and each has but to only open their eyes.

whoknows wrote: that’s my my premise. Do I get to join now?

No, never mind. I’m not into exclusivity. Besides we are, all,“in free,” right?

Any time anyone clams to have something none of the rest of have I

There is nothing to attain as you know, we all have it all the time if we are conscious or unconscious.

We just live reality or we live in dream.

It doesn't really matter which way we live, but it's much more fun to live reality imho.

It is good to push each other to our best.

You are an outsider like me wk.

We do what we do.

dan wrote:1627Z........

wk,

I think you miss chick ’s point......

Chick is claiming to be the first to be able to prove that we are all God......

If you would like to discuss this further, just join the zoom meeting......

Here’s the meeting #...... 417 609 9117.  


1633z......

wk,

True, but it still needs to be demonstrated to the world ........

And this can be done, now, in real time.  

No..... yes?  



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Bahahaha,

If he is going to persist in his folly, I personally don't want to discuss Dan's silliness.

I'd rather talk to Tolstoy.

He called bullshit on all of dem dumb christians, they aren't even Christians, they are a cult.  

Now if you talked like Tolstoy, then I may get you a little better Dan.

He was a true Heretic.

I guess Dan is kinda heretical with the portal princess stuff, but I'm not biting.

I don't trust anyone who doesn't laugh, sorry.

I don't need to claim God, I am this.

Remember that Hal computer in Space Odyssey, he kept short circuiting any attempt to fix him.

People like suffering.

They don't want to know anything really Dan.

They want to get the best they can for themselves.

Can't blame them for living their genetic imperatives.

https://www.goddessandgreenman.co.uk/beltane

Happy Beltane all.

Just before I ramble off into the woods to find My fairy princess, been the green man I am, could I point very carefully to one aspect celebrated at this time and that is the may pole dance.
Think of the specific location of said pole sited by hobbits like moi, and then think of the spiral inward and outward routes the dancers follow as they circulate around that central pole.

That is how creation operates, how it is enabled.

hobbit

Many talk about the j guy going to Glastonbury.




I would not be surprised given the geometry I detect there, and the two opposing serpents that entwine the hill.


Hobbit

Dragons, where's George?

I hope He knows I am big friends with them two?



hobbit in spiral mode

wk and chick are still going on the the 9117 meeting, posted above......


1953z.........

Chick is on with Ack and Scott...... wk is taking a break for dinner.


0005z.......

I’ll be back on around 0130z.......


0200z.........

wk and I are back on the zoom meeting..... 9117......

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/4176099117


0230z........

wk and I are still hoping for more folks......



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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-lockdown-chicken-manure-lund-pagan-festival-walpurgis-night-coronavirus-a9491816.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1sMSRSz8XshpbNLAV0MeEzbpZOzvdcMg21cmwC1bi6N9EczaD-hoBv2jo#Echobox=1588240047

So does the spreading of chicken shit assist in the mythical virus story?


I hope they don't spread salmonella.


hobbit

I went to see the “#one” and this is all I found.

Poor chick has been reduced to cosmic debris........

Pulverized by the arch skeptic 🤨, who is...... who knows, wk.  

Where was Chivo to hold my hand against my arch nemesis?  

On rare occasions, wk would agree that this was the best possible world........ but he had no rhyme or reason for ever holding that belief.  

An important thing to know about wk is that he was a Vietnam veteran, who had to watch comrades die, at close range.

Ack eventually joined us, and we were able to posture anew.  

Our major stumbling block came down to the issue of immaterialism......

In the mind of wk, to be an immaterialist simply was simply to believe that some things were not physical.

Likewise, to be a personalist was simply to believe in the existence of persons...... among many other things.  

It turns out that wk has been following the chick on OM boards for ten years...... believing that conversations, here, are among the most entertaining available.  

Is it fair to say that wk was engaged in a degree of posturing?

Is it fair to say that chick engages in posturing?  



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Well, at least till last night.

I was ask if all we observe is material or a dream... I could not believe the inanity of the question.

But  I’ll take a brief moment to explain.

It doesn’t matter, a dream or material makes it no less real.

Oh and BTW I what could be technically be called a vet of that war, I was never in country as the saying goes. I was on A DE off the coast of California testing weapons of destruction.

My eldest brother on the other hands was “in country” Airborne Ranger Recon. Though as I said technically I am a vet of that war, I am loathe to make clams out of respect to those I feel deserve it. I do not. I apologize for using that as bate. I do on occasion use devices to see what kind of response it will illicit. Again I most humbly apologize to all. This time the temptation was just too much for me.

Other than that, Dan showed me no proof that he is the second Coming or the Princess is the “Princess of heaven. I don’t even see any evidence that he is actually speaking for her.

Other that one amendment to all that was said, I will be sitting back and watching the show from here on out. I’ve gotten as close as I’d ever want To this over the past 24 hrs.

Scott, you and Arron rock man, it was great to meet you. It might be interesting to get you two, Chivo and I together for a bit of a zoom chat. I think that would be extremely interesting.

Yes, chick does style himself as the Second Coming.  

wk styles himself as my arch skeptic 🤨.

And, yes, I do encourage folks to zoom in the absence of chick .

It may also be fair to say that whoKnows blind sided chick with his total agnosticism..... plus his objectivism concerning facts.  

The whole notion of entertaining hypotheses seemed for to whoK .

The notion of knowing a tree be the fruit it bears......



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https://www.facebook.com/derek.reynolds.140/videos/10221535573599483/?fref=mentions

They, whoever they are, wouldn't cause mass murder to create fear , to thus enable their agenda....would THEY?????

That's not the best possible world unless Your in League with the devil.

The GATES of hell?
Hobbit

Christ is the embodiment of this age.

As is Trump.

Love one another is the gospel, as you know yourself.

El Chivo can dig that and in loving others I am one with Christ consciously or unconsciously.

I see how I pulled a fast one on myself.

Whatever your conscious mind rejects or believes the unconscious seems to subvert and show us.

I remember love is what I felt most true when I was a kid, while I was tormented by my unconscious.

Or so it seemed from my perspective.

To clarify, the gospel is love one another, not god.

Ironic how it can be so twisted up by those who hate change.

Trump is truly...anti-Christ.

Christ embodies hermaphroditic love of all, the competing idea in the air is self love.

Trump is not evil, just the ultimate Fool.

He simply loves himself to the exclusion of all.

That is the energy of anti-Christ.

These are clumsy ways to speak about this.

This is this.

And isn’t Trump just pathetic to see?

Like a trapped rat.

He is trapped by love.

See how awkward he is with love, but he’s great with lust.

Truly, trump is a great man to observe, but not embody.

If you think trump the greatest, it’s obvious what your doing.

Denying loves complete scope.

All of this.

Love it LIKE your self.

But we don’t know real love, it’s been wallpapered over, they put a parking lot at the front of the garden.

But you can’t deny this or self love, this is this.

What you believe doesn’t matter, you know.

Christ and the gospel can’t be studied.

It is not a doctrine to be believed or laws to follow.

Those who don’t want change treat Christ as a rule bringer and lawgiver.

Rubbish, he is a destroyer of ignorance.

Some believe something and think that is the meaning.

This is very different than we have lived.

Every age has an appropriate way to live in it.

Those who do not absorb and participate consciously, do so unconsciously.

Beliefs change.

Ironic.

Paganism is not appropriate for this age.

The savage cant accept something incomprehensible.

Is love comprehensible?

It is through how we respond to it.

So the savage became social.

Now you must love yourself and all others.

Suffering is caused from resisting this.

We passed from animal to social life.

This alarms us.

It began two thousand years ago.

Now what was unconscious must be conscious.

All the conflict here on OMF is the war between the animal and the bigger connections.

We were terrified as animals and learned together we are stronger and best.

Just relax.

Things are kinda taking care of themselves.

I don’t believe, I know in my heart.

I guess now I embody the loving fool.

Love has been stirring el Chivo’s heart.

It can’t be this good part of me feels while the other says it is so good you can be allowed to deny it.

Why fight it?

Christ is a psychic force obviously.

Jung and many have shared their experience of it.

As I have now done.

Have you nakedly shared your passage?

It is quite an experience.

I became an animal and ran into the wilderness as soon as I felt free.

What a trip through that forest.

I ran with the wolves.

I howwwwlllleeeeddddddddd

The freedom of just running in the forest, savage, primal.

It happens.

I feel the sense of a long arch back to where we began this.

Given the chance to live so high and low in this, now is a time to flow with it.

I appear within a country and world and family and marriage.

All these reflect love.

Give me the chance to choose love.

It wouldn’t mean anything if gods ruled over us.

But we needed spoon feeding and diapers changed.

We have had many wet nurses.

No one is in authority here.

Just this.

What a fuckin trip muppets.

There is no skepticism here.

There is simply what is.

I don’t deny it, all will suffer the best amount, but not all end up conscious.

We are always complete and whole.

We just have aspects we experience in reflection.

Dan is confused in what he heard perhaps inside himself.

He is insane after all.

I have have shown him what happened to him through my own experience and how one can respond.

All rivers empty into the same ocean.

A suggestion, don’t claim to be the second coming, you herald and reflect the age.

Be here totally and live it.

He did the best he could with what he has, as we all do.

He can say what he likes about how this feels.

But he will never get through to a soul using icons.

U have to embody and live it Dan and demonstrate it.

You are always what is needed in the moment.

I can understand that Chivo is not quite ready for the Second Coming.  

whoK was still lost, through his brother, on the battlefields of Nam.  

He seeks the love that Chivo has found.

Who can be ready for the best possible story to end?  

Aren’t we still on a roll...... up on our cosmic luck/love?

I can’t prove otherwise.  

Naturally, folks want proof and certainty.  Love is not about certainty..... it is about faith.... about trust.  

We don’t have to trust the world..... but what else can we trust?

whoK suffers a vicarious PTSD.  Chivo has barely recovered from his.  

Scientists are material..... actually mathematical.... monists..... Pythagoreans.  It provides a mystical state of mind. We understood that atoms were just chips off of that block.  

Pythagoras rules the modern intellect.  

I was there, until it occurred to me that we invented mathematics..... rather than the other way around.  

With that definite possibility, I was flipped to Parmenides.  

It doesn’t appear that wk was ever able to grok these subtleties.  

It is a mystery as to what attracted him here, for ten years.  I would hate to lose him, this late in the game.  I might guess the the goat chick combat was somehow mesmerizing.  

Even the standoffishness of the Princess could be mesmerizing.



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One suggestion...

More cowbell please.

Explore the space.

And I have always felt wk deeply.

Though he never truly engaged, I felt him.

In the 90s I worked with a Vietnam vet and he got a kick out of me.

I used to crack him up.

But he had a heaviness.

He told me he fought so I would never have to.

That really sobered me up being such a smart ass kid.

He liked me being able to be free to be a dumb kid.

Something to this day, I can’t personally relate to.

I would hope we end war and lay down our arms.

But who will blink first?

I give up.

You got me.

I surrender.

There is rage against the system....... burn baby burn.  

This couldn’t be the best possible system.  

It’s not....... this is not all there is.

Disclosure is about finally seeing around the corner........ the corner where the Princess disappeared in Figueres.  

Even chick has trepidation about seeing around that corner....... going around that bend.

If Pythagorus and Parmenides are not wrong, there must be pre-established harmony.  

Is it the best possible or worst possible?  

It’s fair to say that it is the only possible one...... given our evident centrality to the Metanarrative.  

No....... wk is not quite ready for the cosmic harmony....... it comes with a pre-established dissonance...... essential to the structure.



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