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It looks like we’re running up,against the 40 page allotment from the last thread......

And I’m still with Tulsi, unless there is a better suggestion......

The prize for sacrificing your fear of death is joy.

We worship at the altar of Joy.

Gibran wrote:Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing.
And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb.
And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance.

I’m not fooling my self or anyone else anymore. I’m too old fashioned for transhumanism, i feel that’s when Legion comes into its own.

“Death is not extinguishing the light; it is only putting out the lamp because the dawn has come.”

― Rabindranath Tagore

None of us really understands the light, it blinds us.

Dans lack of humility in this area is surprising given his age and strokes.

I guess he was like, fuck it, what do I have to lose.

And I’m like, fuck it, I have lost nothing, only gained and ultimately I will shed this body and all my gain in the light of the Dawn.

For what is life and death in the light?

The shadow has only led us away from that source.

But that’s the illusion, you can’t get or run away.

You can only stand naked here.

Painting pictures...

“I know not who paints the pictures on memory’s canvas; but whoever he may be, what he is painting are pictures; by which I mean that he is not there with his brush simply to make a faithful copy of all that is happening. He takes in and leaves out according to his taste. He makes many a big thing small and small thing big. He has no compunction in putting into the background that which was to the fore, or bringing to the front that which was behind. In short, he is painting pictures, and not writing history.”

smelly,

I cajole myself with the notion that I embrace life......

..... not just my life, but Life.  

We can do this only out of comprehension and compassion and faith.  

I embrace Creation.  

If we are able to do this, we are one with God.  

You stand on that threshold...... the world stands on that threshold.  

Mystagogy is last buffer against Eternity....... against Gnosis.

Did the gnostics achieve Gnosis?

They left no trail.

Did Kahlil achieve Gnosis? He had great faith in Life...... great compassion.

Who needs comprehension?



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I don’t know what creation is!

I don’t know why the pictures or who paints them in my mind.

That isn’t needed to live.

I cajole myself with the same notion as you do.

I serve Life by having the best one, it needs no saving by me.

I’m not arguing a point here.

From clarity, what each feels to do, they freely do.

From clarity, they will make the best choices.

I know maintaining clarity is the foundation of serving life.

I have at least a poppy seed of faith in Life and my appearance or I wouldn’t be here.

I don’t know anything else.

Only the Light may know the Dawn.

You are woke, smelly....... like Buddha.  

You and he see the internal dawn.  Neither of you could imagine the Dawn.

I’m blessed that way.

The Navigator has landed.  

I point to the Dawn.  It is on the horizon.  

Our ship is headed straight for it........ always has been.  

I’m not really the Navigator....... I’m the lookout in the crows nest.  

Two points make a line...... a beeline......

Love was one point...... Truth is the other.  

If you know me, you know Truth.  If you know Truth, you know me and Jesus.  

When you know Truth, you will know that you cannot know Love without knowing Jesus.  Kahlil understood that..... he had that much faith.  

There is a big difference between knowing love, and knowing Love...... all the difference in the world.  

The Dawn is bringing Love.  

Buddy Bolton called it the Big Love....... bless his heart.

Buddy and Kahlil sensed the Big Love, but they couldn’t quite triangulate it...... the Geometer has landed.  

We have only to reach the critical mass of Truth...... the hundredth monkey of Truth.  That is my triangulation.  

smelly has one foot aboard the glory train...... he hesitates.  


5:10.........

The Big Love only makes sense in a finite world....... in a small world. When you understand this you will be on the threshold of Truth. Only then will you understand chicken little.



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Only the Light and Shadow knows, I am their bastard child.

And my mother is a real bitch.

I have lived the life of a bastard for someone’s delight.

Anyway.

Khalil grew up in a Christian sect.

I don’t have anything against Jesus and only God knows my heart.

Which has no form, let’s call it the Dawn.

The Big Love

The Last Stand

The Big Blue

That Dawn can blow my atoms apart at any moment but it keeps just the right distance.

None can hide a particle from Love.

Is Love what Chalmers sees Consciousness appearing in?

He can’t say out loud, but u feel his joy a little.

I think he has glimpsed the Dawn.

He’s always smiling.

Permanent I would guess.

We have all come to see that Dawn.

I see a face brightening as the cool orange turns into a fiery red/yellow.

I see such an expression of orgasmic wonder.

A smile on a face that grows as the breath fills us.

You can feel yourself singing to the Dawn.

Vibrating.

If you speak, your words sound like slow croaks.

Things are slowing as fast as they are accelerating.

We can’t help but shout for JOY!

Like jumping beans in the fire.

Dawn comes to the shore.

Behold!

I do not know its name, but I have been running up and down the streets shouting it is here, it is here!!!

Awaken!

Awaken!

They have landed, the Dawn is here, at last, at long last!

That’s my poppy seed of faith in Life and Love speaking.

...

Here’s the smelly goat’s take from the shadowy hills...

The outsider reborn.

What if we have realized our minds are a virus?!

That we cannot trust our thoughts.

That paranoia could be an overreaction to the light I’ll concede.

But one begins to doubt themselves and every thought, feeling and word.

We don’t feel we speak for this, more that our words are attacking peace, because we don’t need to speak to know.

The horrible truth, my ego awareness is the corruption of the light!

Damn it!

I knew it

I had a dream, I was in a large circle with a spotlight on me.

And I whispered and then yelled so loud.

Why whhyy whhhhyyy whhhhyyyy WHHHHHHYYYYYY!!!!!!

And Light exploded off me onto the edge a glass dome and dissipated.

And I kept just lighting my ball up.

I heard...we are protecting ourselves from you.

You are air gapped.

You are the corruption, it said.

It was very strange.

It was more like a half lucid dream.

I felt great sadness and pain.

Love and pain and then you die

Kahlil was the first to come meet me I could see inside, even before Jesus.

No accident you went there.

It’s a fuckin setup and none of us is getting out of here alive.

Smile bitches.

...

Oh smelly.

I cant do a thing with him.

Can’t beat em, join em, I guess.

Amor Fati

To borrow from Hunter S. Thompson in his eulogy to Nixon, what can be said of the evil met on the low road?

“... It was Richard Nixon who got me into politics, and now that he's gone, I feel lonely. He was a giant in his way. As long as Nixon was politically alive -- and he was, all the way to the end -- we could always be sure of finding the enemy on the Low Road. There was no need to look anywhere else for the evil bastard.

He had the fighting instincts of a badger trapped by hounds. The badger will roll over on its back and emit a smell of death, which confuses the dogs and lures them in for the traditional ripping and tearing action. But it is usually the badger who does the ripping and tearing. It is a beast that fights best on its back: rolling under the throat of the enemy and seizing it by the head with all four claws.”

That was Nixon's style -- and if you forgot, he would kill you as a lesson to the others. Badgers don't fight fair, bubba. That's why God made dachshunds.”

Hunter S. Thompson wrote:That's why God made dachshunds.

...and smelly goats.

Dollars to the stars ...

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1710274/000114420418050766/tv503167_1sa.htm

smelly does vacillate, poor soul.  


There is a caveat to the hundredth monkey scenario.......

It will require a spot a pot...... a quasi public portal...... at least by the time we get to the tenth monkey....... there will need be publicly accessible witnesses.  

For all I know, these witnesses may already be lined up.  

They will need to come forward.

That is the final control rod....... in the hands of the PtB.  

We know, of course, that they don’t really control it, but it is their security blanket, nonetheless.  

Over the years, I’ve had several marginally reliable witnesses.  I’m a marginal witness, myself.  

We can do better.  

By the time we get to the hundredth monkey, the PtB will be in full battle cry...... with an emphasis on cry.  

They’d better be cautious that they don’t overplay their hand.  

Better to be gentlemen...... discretion is the better part of their valor.  

Of course, there are gazillions of witnesses to portals.  The quasi public ones need to have been designated as ad hoc........ for Disclosure.  


7:15........

It is possible that marginal witnesses could qualify amongst the hundred...... if their experiences are convincingly ad hoc.  

If that were the case, then we might not need portal witnesses, per se, or, at least, this could considerably broaden the potential witness base..... by broadening the definition of an ad hoc portal/witness.  

If any of this broader scenario proves feasible, then by this amount is the PtB’s ‘control’ further marginalized.



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There are no Bolden recordings.

Assume you meant founder of jazz, if not, it’s a synchronicity.

You can come up with some strange attractors Dan.



I don’t know who is or isn’t a Zen master, but I find depth in this guy’s talks.

No poor soulz here.

The more the merrier.

I don’t believe meditating is anything but meditating.



There is the Event and what we have thought about it.

...

Bolden died in an insane asylum after a life chasing alcohol and women.

Spending 25 years in an insane asylum as black man after 1906 must have been hell.

He was a tortured soul.



And then this is always happening.

My god...it’s full of stars.

We are only aware of the thinnest slice of reality is my bet.



...

2 of Swords, meeting of the minds. The primal pair seeks avenues to reconcile their differences.

Can we surrender to the middle?

The soul prays for an intervention.

There are two conflicting visions.

We must learn to connect to sources that seem to be alien.

The eye of scrutiny (SoT) looks deeply into the soul, to guide and sternly direct worldly affairs according to the will of heaven.

These divinely ordained contrasts cannot escape each other and are continually pulled back together. Like intertwining snakes of the caduceus.

Thoughtless quips no longer have a place here.

Careful attention is required to reach a harmonious compromise.

We can maintain a level of civility to allow the other to maintain their dignity.

Look within before calling others out.

I’m suggesting that Disclosure has been triangulated....... rather well...... good enough for gummint work.  

I would guess that we’re just waiting for the dust to settle from the last few months, before the next shoe drops.  

For how much longer can the ETH be entertained as a serious hypothesis?

Modern culture has a vested interest in materialism.  The ETH is the most natural extension of materialism....... at least superficially.  

I’m fairly well acquainted with the main proponent of the ETH, Steve Bassett.  His understanding of the deeper issues involved is, indeed, superficial.  

The Mormon and Catholic Churches both have a dog in that arena.  It is a very lightweight presence...... it is their crazy uncle in the attic.  

For a basically materialist culture, the ETH is a stopgap measure...... an attempt to put a material label on the inevitable Disclosure.  

Will the ETH even be able to get out of the starting blocks before it is overtaken by the IDH (inter dimensional hypothesis)?  

You’d better believe that the PtB is already plumping for the ETH...... good luck with that, boys.  

The most influential elements of the PtB understand that the IDH is their death knell...... the PtB are not as stupid as they look.  

One portal, and modernism is all gone.  

Will the despots be able to exploit portals?  I doubt there are any who haven’t. donny is my exhibit A.  


12.........

We look out at the sky, and we see stars and galaxies.  We have good reason to suppose that every one of those galaxies is arrayed upon a black hole...... just for the record, I believe in portals...... not black holes.

It is no different with nations....... with portals.  Usually, each nation has a keeper of the portal...... it’s deepest secrets.  I hypothesize that currently, in our case, this is #3.  

When 3 went to the Vatican, was that not bringing coals to Newcastle?  

I merely suggest that the titular head is not usually the keeper of the keys....... to heaven.  

Torture and paedophilia have traditionally been used to hack a way in, if you’re not in possession of the key code.  The rumors abound.

The Inquisition hacked its way in....... all too literally.  

Despotism survives on borrowed time.

Democracy is the polis of choice.

In the End..... in the Beginning...... every last one of is a walking portal to the Monad.

Every one of us is a keeper of the cosmic Secret.  

Jesus figured this out....... like none other.  

He knew that, when we went to the well, we’d better be damned careful what we were wishing for.



(cont.......)

dan wrote:
He knew that, when we went to the well, we’d better be damned careful what we were wishing for.  

Amen

I want to clarify one thing Dan about my faith.

I have faith in intuition and presence.

It isn't in the talk, it's in the walk.

Ack,

Amen.


smelly,

With every faith there have been innumerable schisms concerning the balance, or lack thereof, between faith and works.

I don’t think we can have one without the other.  

My work is to be a witness to the Truth...... I bring much faith to bear.  


3:20..........

I spent much of the morning reviewing the current philosophical status of materialism/physicalism......

To say that its status is precarious, would be an understatement.

The consensual fixes mainly entail some version of panpsychism, as the only way to maintain coherence.

So, I guess I’d better be looking at panpsychism.......



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It doesn't matter what we say or think ultimately. We can get people motivated or turn them off maybe, but it matters what we do.

The practice is to train the mind to let action happen with the smallest thought about it needed.

Matters how?

Don't know.

But action speaks loudest.

Trump is mostly just a distracting windbag.

But what he does says it all.

Boris' whole buffoon act is more calculated than Trump's natural buffoonery.

Boris is playing a long game.

The power elites aren't going down without a fight.

They would destroy the world if they cant have it.

I hope there is some check at their level as you hint at Dan.

That's not my world.

I live in a garden water world.

We don't have rich people here, only rich in heart and peaceful in mind.

smelly,

Well, if I go into politics, I’ll be promising a portal in every pot.


In panpsychism, the Quantum is the portal of choice.  

Back when I was a dualist, I was a quantum dualist.  I spoke of the brain as a quantum aperture to the dimensions of qualia....... the pleroma of the cosmic mind.  Pretty soon, everything ended up on that other side of the Aperture...... I was a monist.  That was the insight I got from a close reading of Kit Williams’ Masquerade..... picture/puzzle book.  

Emergent properties are a slippery slope into total immersion in the cosmic Pleroma.  

How many philosophers have not figured this out, yet?  

Apparently, I would qualify as a cosmopsychist......

Proponents of cosmopsychism[38][39] claim that the cosmos as a whole is the fundamental level of reality and that it instantiates consciousness, which is how the view differs from panpsychism, where the claim is usually that the smallest level of reality is fundamental and instantiates consciousness. Accordingly, human consciousness, for example, is merely derivative from the cosmic consciousness.

Amen to that.  

The next stop after cosmopsychism is the holographic theory of the universe, which is precisely where modern physics is.  

Has someone already greased these skids?  


Now I’m switching to the more detailed account in the SEP.......



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"Torture and paedophilia"
At the Vatican?, surely not?
I mean religions are all about love and god, aren't they?

So!, what is the purpose of such acts?

You are hinting that it enables the opening of portals, nes pas?

So!, what's the key?


Hobbit

Yeah I mentioned that it seems panpsychism is coming on strong.

https://www.bernardokastrup.com/

Bernardo is making a full court press.

I wonder what the high priests think about Bernardo.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/the-universe-as-cosmic-dashboard/

Kastrup wrote:What is really out there, underlying our perceptions, is constituted not by physical but by transpersonal mental states instead. Perceived physicality is merely a representation of that surrounding mental environment, brought into being by an act of observation.

This isn’t a new view. In fact, it is very old. For instance, already in the early 19th century, Arthur Schopenhauer argued that the physical world of discrete objects in spacetime is merely a subjective representation in the mind of an observer. What is really out there is what Schopenhauer called the “Will”: transpersonal mental states with a volitional character, which transcend our ability to sense or measure. It is the volitional character of these states that explains the universe’s evolution according to causal chains; the universe moves and changes because it is compelled to do so by the patterns of its own underlying willing.

Seems similar to your jive Dan.

The universe changes because it wills it.

How does one measure will?

Will = Tao?

The cosmos is the sum of all will?

smelly,

Or, is reality the sum total of all conspiracies ever imagined?

Ok, but if space is a manifestation of the cosmic will, then so is time........

Thus, the cosmic Will must contain its own Telos/Omega.  

Remind me, now, what is the cosmic Alpha/Omega?  

It seems like something’s got us covered...... coming and going.  



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I’m not trying to confirm a theory here.

I’m just observing the conversations.

I don’t know Dan.



Time may be a data structure.

Stores all events and causes and reactions.

Consciousness then may be a data structure.

Physical objects are all just icons.

So our brain paints a picture that tends toward survival, but not by showing us the truth.

Bernardo/Donald says knowing the truth would cause our extinction so it was hidden?

So what is fear in the OS and Love?

We have a human interface that doesn’t tend to truth.

Yes, I can definitely feel Kastrup, Hoffman and Tononi, all breathing down my neck.......

Donald is correct....... knowing the Truth will cause our Extinction...... we will be obliterated by God.

That is the Wedding Feast in the sky. Each one of us has an engraved invitation...... written on our souls.

The menu is included in the invitation. We are the piece de resistance...... the featured entreé.

Maybe Hoffman is furthest along.

You get consciousness and an end to physicalism, but no logical God.

Meets in between religion and science.

Everyone has to compromise.



Objective truth is the sum of all points of view.

Like consider what a snake represents.

Why some are poisonous.

We have our meaning of that in the Holographic world, but we don’t really know what the snake is and why our mind paints it the way it does.

It ends our time in the hologram.

But it could be on an on/off switch if you can abstract little.

Same for portals.

What appears is not at all what it is but may hint at function.

Color smell touch sound all tell us something about a portal.

But not what connects to it, unless there are patterns or resonances left in the hologram that are common because of our commonly built brains we could use to guess.

And I guess following this line of thinking, we could reconsider every single object we have ever identified or interacted with, people at work, lovers, family and ask what does this mean and represent.

It seems where all appears as it is, what it means is knowable based on how you think about it or not. Context and utility based on survival makes it meaningful.

Meaningful for survival, but what else is meaningful?

What else is there here but survival?

Just thinking out loud.

What I bring to this auspicious gathering is the Alpha/Omega Metanarrative.

I don’t really believe in survival, except for survival in the Bosom of the Cosmos.

What I know is that there can’t be Nothing

The individual ego is the biggest illusion of all.  

The cosmic Atom is the reductio ad infinitum of all our materialist thoughts. The atom is a logical necessity of metabolic fantasies. And so forth.......



(cont.......)

Here they talk about making consciousness just another property of a physical universe.

Nick Herbert suggests panpsychism.

Hoffman likes a monistic theory and that consciousness is fundamental.



You and Hoffman desire monism, Hoffman says it’s consistent with QM.

Nothing exists separate from its perceptions.

If the physical world is the sum contents of consciousness, what don’t we know about consciousness?

Ha.

We may only experience .0001 percent of it for all we know.

I guess the math gives hints.

Zen may end up being the best game in town

I don’t read much, but I’m going to get Donald’s 8/13/19 Audible book coming up, the case against reality.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393254690/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_mSlqDbSGT8RT7

The problem with Hoffman is that he is taking evolution as coeval with consciousness.  

That is an incoherent juxtaposition.  

If you’re gonna take the leap into immaterialism, you have to jump with both feet....... you have to embrace the MoAPS.  The MoAPS is the bitter pill...... it’s tough to swallow.

How can you embrace Truth, without embracing the spirit of truth?  That will be the trick.  

Everyone and their cousin is tiptoeing around this Godzilla in the room, pretending they just didn’t notice it.



(cont.......)

It is fascinating to watch our perceptions changing about the fundamental nature of reality.

And I don't have to be hindered by any one view, I can have an open mind about it.

How lucky are we?!

I mean no one would listen to you with credentials, but still

Materialism is just a dead end. Hoffman is being listened to because he has data and models and math.

One step at a time, right?

We still don't even know why observing a Quantum computer breaks the calculation.

QCs are going to show us a lot about how the hologram works, no?