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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Post by Guest on Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:11 pm

I can't find again the posting by Cyrellys so I'm doing a new posting here.

Regarding the delusions, which are also myths, listed at IWD, there are many other popular ones that should be added, 75 in all:  

science, as it is usually done, as rational, rationalist, objective, and logical,
the Big Bang (is disproven physically and metaphysically; see Grote Reber, Halton Arp, Hilton Radcliffe, Paul LaViolette, Tom Van Flandern, etc.),
Einsteinian relativity (the speed of light is not a constant and there is no space-time curvature for the simple reason space and time are not perceivable by the senses so they are mental constructs so they cannot have physical properties which Tesla recognized),
the planetismal hypothesis (planets actually split from the sun in pairs, see Thomas Van Flandern),
the failed planet hypothesis,
the Big Splat (the Moon instead fissioned from the Earth, see Thomas Van Flandern),
the giant planets as gaseous (they are actually liquid),
the Oort Cloud (see Thomas Van Flandern),  
black holes,
space tunnels,
dark matter,
extra dimensions,
quarks, neutrons, neutrinos, and mesons (these are purely hypothetical, have never been detected, and are unsubstantiated; neutrons are actually protons bound to electrons)
the idea there is no secret space program,
Yuri Gagarin as the 1st man in space (it was actually Vladimir Ilyushin)  
the no-race idea,
the idea there is no human nature,
the idea that we use only 10% of our brains
Hispanics as a race (world-wide they are 47% mestizo and 31% white, and in the US they are 26% mestizo and 66% white; they are a linguistic community; the myth comes from the US Census Bureau establishing a separate category for them because of the large influx of Spanish immigrants from Cuba, Mexico, Puerto Rico, etc.),
absolute skepticism,
falsificationism
philosophy and history as non-sciences,
the idea that there is no short a or short i in French and Portuguese (perhaps the most bizarre of delusions in orthodoxy),
red algae as related to green plants,
unikonts as basal eukaryotes
Rhizaria as monophyletic
molecular taxonomy as foolproof or superior,  
plate tectonics (all claims of PT are completely contradicted by the evidence; see David Pratt, Kirsten Storetvedt, the Meyerhoffs, Robin Wilson, etc.),
the flat earth,
man-made climatic change,
cold fusion as false,  
Shakespeare as the author of the works attributed to him (it was mostly DeVere),
everything as a conspiracy theory (the pyramids, Saturn's hexagon, time travel, etc.),
TV as intrinsically evil,
liberal left (most leftists are repressive, puritanical, close-minded, and prejudiced, as we see especially in political ''correctness'' and official science),
conservative right,
feminism as being opposed to sexism (it is itself sexist and both ways),
pacifism as being peaceful and anti-war,
the killing of  sociopaths as unjustified (an especially twisted extreme-left fantasy promoted in shows like Scorpion),  
sugar as causing diabetes,
fast foods, salt, processed meat, and added sugar as unhealthy (in moderate amounts these are not harmful; see Why Processed Meat is Bad for You-NutritionAuthority.Com; The Truth About Sugar.Com),
stress as causing ulcers and heart disease,  
the dieter's disease as anorexia (anorexia involves appetite loss which doesn't occur in the dieter's disease),
schizophrenia as split personality,
Obama as American-born, Christian, heterosexual, and moderate (he is Kenyan-born, Muslim, homosexual, and communist),
theism,
the '60s as '68-'75,
the Classic 6 in the NHL as the Original 6 (only 2 of them were original, the Montreal Canadiens and the Toronto Maple Leafs (originally called the Arenas)),
the CFL as inferior to the NFL,
the '90s fantasy that everyone had  a computer and was on the Internet when it was only a small minority,
the misuse of language as legitimate,
orthodoxy as always right,
psychic projection (the most bizarre and nonsensical explanation for UFOs),
reincarnation,
the idea there is no coincidence,
homosexuality and perversions as normal,
human omnipotence,
tallness in women as attractive (tallness is a masculine trait, most women are short, most shapely women are short, and height and weight are independent variables),
the legal defintion of insanity applying to abnormal psychology and psychiatry,
''conventional'' as synonymous with ''rational'' or ''logical'' (''there must be a logical explanation'' meaning ''there must be  a conventional explanation,'' but, naturally, whatever the right explanation is it's going to be logical and rational, conventional or not),  
UFOs as having a conventional explanation,
ghosts as having a conventional explanation,  
psychic powers as nonexistent,
psychiatry as legitimate (it's mostly abusive and incompetent),
intelligence as being determined by hair colour,    
male stereotypes (which are promoted by sexist feminists),
guns as the cause of crime, as the most dangerous weapons, and as being used only by criminals,  
loners as anti-social (most anti-socials are (abnormal) extraverts), everything as racist,  
everything as homophobia,
everything as sexism,
everything as sexual harassment (also a mainstay of feminist extremism and pc),
warrantless surveillance as justified,
the excesses and abuses in the media as acceptable,
releasing dangerous offenders and light sentences for serious crimes as acceptable,
sexuality as intrinsically evil (a mainstay of feminist extremism and pc),
the idea there are no conspiracies and that everything is paranoia or hysteria,
the idea that anything outside of orthodoxy is crackpottery or something similar.

Most are part of the Cabal agenda and a result of mass mind control and social engineering, but most are not insane, but they are delusions none the less. An insane delusion, which is a psychosis, is a false belief that can't be shaken by reason and is harmful, which would include the last 14. Certainly the idea that guns are the problem and not criminals and that security and self-defense are not important is an insane delusion and is basically included in the article. Most of the high-profile theories in science are fantasies defended by mud-slinging, infantile derision, fraud, and repression by people who believe nothing is certain, which is itself a delusion (absolute skepticism). Most scientists are rigid, close-minded, obstinate, ultraconservative, subjective, and emotional, but they have hypocritically created a totally bogus, propaganda image of themselves (just as leftists have, and most are leftists), and which is a complete joke, of course.  

Regarding the article at IWD that says the younger generation is waking up, this is also a delusion. If anything, it seems to me and a lot of people at least, that they are more dumbed down and zombified than older people.

Another article said that all conspiracy theories are being proven true, but most are actually conspiracy facts already proven true, and even if a conspiracy fact is acknowledged by the mainstream, orthodox extremists (deranged skeptics) continue to believe there are no conspiracies. And orthodox extremists are the very epitome and embodiment of denial and projection, so they're like the guy who says to someone, '' You must be drunk 'cause I see 2 of you.''

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