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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Jake Reason Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:49 pm

    Barbaric Savagery on steroids?

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    It appears to me that God has vacated the Knesset.

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    Post by Cyrellys Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:58 pm

    Jake Reason wrote:Barbaric Savagery on steroids?

    It appears to me that God has vacated the Knesset.[/size]

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    Someone for got to remind them that God has a bug in his bonnet about eugenics in any form and that being the pawns in the game doesn't make them anything other than accessories to murder.

    But then we too live in a glass house. We've got one heck of mess to sort out and clean up.


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    Post by Jake Reason Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:29 pm

    Cyrellys wrote:
    Someone for got to remind them that God has a bug in his bonnet about eugenics in any form and that being the pawns in the game doesn't make them anything other than accessories to murder.

    But then we too live in a glass house. We've got one heck of mess to sort out and clean up.
    I believe the 'clean up' is unfolding now. I sense you do as well.

    I am sensing that a growing awareness is developing within Christendom, that our traditional grounds for support of Israel is causing us to reconsider the reasons why the world is prophesied to culminate its contentions in a show down known as the Battle of Armageddon to take place in the valley of Megiddo, south-west of the sea of Galilee.

    The growing reconsideration is that we may be wrong, that the causes of the Battle of Armageddon are not that the world is wicked and Israel is Holy. But rather that Israel has forgotten its first love. So deeply forgotten that even the secular world judges the PtB/Government of Israel to be ungodly in their ways.

    There is a prophecy of " The Two Witnesses" who will arise in Israel in the time, just a few years prior to the Battle of Armageddon. And they implore (not only the world, but also) Israel to repent.

    ( repent = to reverse ones ways)

    Delusions increase as madness arises.

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    Post by 99 Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:10 am

    I too share the same sentiments about those attacks ...


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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:35 am


    I believe the 'clean up' is unfolding now. I sense you do as well.

    Yes.

    The growing reconsideration is that we may be wrong, that the causes of the Battle of Armageddon are not that the world is wicked and Israel is Holy. But rather that Israel has forgotten its first love. So deeply forgotten that even the secular world judges the PtB/Government of Israel to be ungodly in their ways.

    Exactly. Once again a portion of mankind is noted as "having forgotten who they are."

    It seems to me there are witnesses in just about every neck of the woods and their warnings go unnoticed or unheeded. Nothing like learning the hard way huh?


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    Post by Jake Reason Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:11 am

    Yes.

    So now there's talk of rhetorical truce. Now that Israel has finished dropping a million pounds of TNT. That will teach those Gazians from tossing firecrackers over the wall.

    Meanwhile Netanyahu is scheming how he could get away with bulldozing them into the sea. And Clinton will take a couple bandages, a few aspirins and a snack pack, to the strip. But not before giving her PR wink for the $1 billion bomb replenishment order.

    While those in Tel Aviv will continue to wonder why they have so many problems. Oy vey





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    Post by Cyrellys Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:26 am

    Yes except the Gazan's don't seem to be cooperating in the fun and games...seems they didn't find the pounding and deaths of non-combatants quite as amusing as the globals did:

    Tel Aviv bus explosion jeopardizes Israel-Gaza truce deal An explosion has hit a public bus in the heart of Tel Aviv, wounding at least 10 people, even as frantic diplomatic efforts continued to secure a truce between Israel and Hamas.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9692594/Tel-Aviv-bus-explosion-jeopardises-Israel-Gaza-truce-deal.html


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    Post by Jake Reason Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:49 am

    And Oh the irony of the face on the sign of the bus.
    Priceless!


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    Post by Jake Reason Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:38 am

    Canadian Headline Article on this bus bombing.

    "At least 10 people sustained moderate to serious injuries when a blast ripped through a bus on a main street across from Israel’s national defence headquarters, emergency responders said.

    Rescue officials escorted injured parties from the area, littered with broken glass from the bus’ blown-out side windows. Blood was visible on pavement near the scorched bus.

    An eyewitness told the Associated Press that moments before the explosion, an unidentified man placed a device on the bus and then disembarked.
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    Notice bolded. hmmm

    So no one was on the bus. How else could no one die in such an explosion (pictured above)? Moderate injuries from glass? Note the location of the bus. So close to such security and no one chased the unidentified man? No one from Gaza has proudly claimed responsibility. Peculiar.

    Excuse my cynicism, but I can't help but wonder if Mossad carried it out.


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    Post by Nib Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:49 pm

    "Excessive force" Jake? Seriously? You know better than anyone the Israelis don't go to the bathroom without thinking it through. = opportunity to shore up the southern border, get as many/as much ammo, rockets and firecrackers out of the way prior to the inevitable conflict with Iran, Hezbollah and anyone else who's not too preoccupied with internal spring like revolutions?

    I sometimes wonder if they actually have taken to heart the idea of Gog/ Magog and planned for that? Why would they- right?
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    Post by Cyrellys Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:40 pm

    I have the distinct impression that there are people out there who want such a war....that they are trying to create the circumstances for it. I didn't know it was possible to gather into one general area so many suicidal people.

    Sigh...

    anyway, Happy Thanksgiving Nib and Jake.


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    Post by Bard Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:53 pm

    The Dirty Truth of Israel

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    Lesson in History

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    Post by Jake Reason Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:51 am

    Nib! Very Good points! Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Are you one of their consulting strategists? bom

    And Yes indeed, who would have the need to study prophecy more than Israel?

    @Cyrellys,
    It is amazing isn't it! Psychotic reasoning appears to be Politically Correct in their world.

    Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

    @mdonnall,
    Thank you for that video. It truly paints the picture.


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