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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin
With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
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A nice Rupert Sheldrake interview to kick things off:
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The GATHERING aspect of His talk is the reason for the present seperation lockdown/s.
The Earth is alive and within it's own unique consciousness field, all so called alive entities in 3D are within their own unique field, but are within the earths.
Consciousness holds all information and all living entities interact in a type of radio interaction.
When humans gather together they form a local collective field and the radio transmissions and receivers begin to communicate.
observe a flock of birds or shoal of fish.
Those communications also involve the Earths field, and all living entities are transmitting information and influencing the outcomes.
hobbit
The Earth is alive and within it's own unique consciousness field, all so called alive entities in 3D are within their own unique field, but are within the earths.
Consciousness holds all information and all living entities interact in a type of radio interaction.
When humans gather together they form a local collective field and the radio transmissions and receivers begin to communicate.
observe a flock of birds or shoal of fish.
Those communications also involve the Earths field, and all living entities are transmitting information and influencing the outcomes.
hobbit
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I knew this would resonate with you Hobbit - Dr. Sheldrake is a person of interest and has been a pioneer in this field: https://www.sheldrake.org
Yesterday scientists announced: "All Kinds of Marine Animals Are Mysteriously Circling in Bizarre Discovery. Turtles, seals, sharks, whales, and penguins all swim in unexplained circles that may signal an intuitive connection to the Earth's geomagnetic field."
https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjpy9m/all-kinds-of-marine-animals-are-mysteriously-circling-in-bizarre-discovery
The study published on March 18, 2021 in iScience can be found here:
https://www.cell.com/iscience/fulltext/S2589-0042(21)00189-9
Yesterday scientists announced: "All Kinds of Marine Animals Are Mysteriously Circling in Bizarre Discovery. Turtles, seals, sharks, whales, and penguins all swim in unexplained circles that may signal an intuitive connection to the Earth's geomagnetic field."
https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjpy9m/all-kinds-of-marine-animals-are-mysteriously-circling-in-bizarre-discovery
The study published on March 18, 2021 in iScience can be found here:
https://www.cell.com/iscience/fulltext/S2589-0042(21)00189-9
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"Why Extraterrestrial Life May Not Seem Entirely Alien - The zoologist Arik Kershenbaum argues that because some evolutionary challenges are truly universal, life throughout the cosmos may share certain features." - Quanta Magazine March 18, 2021: https://www.quantamagazine.org/arik-kershenbaum-on-why-alien-life-may-be-like-life-on-earth-20210318/
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Foresaperire wrote:I knew this would resonate with you Hobbit - Dr. Sheldrake is a person of interest and has been a pioneer in this field: https://www.sheldrake.org
Yesterday scientists announced: "All Kinds of Marine Animals Are Mysteriously Circling in Bizarre Discovery. Turtles, seals, sharks, whales, and penguins all swim in unexplained circles that may signal an intuitive connection to the Earth's geomagnetic field."
https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjpy9m/all-kinds-of-marine-animals-are-mysteriously-circling-in-bizarre-discovery
The study published on March 18, 2021 in iScience can be found here:
https://www.cell.com/iscience/fulltext/S2589-0042(21)00189-9
The circling and spiral routes are all part of straight lines.
it is how consciousness TRIPS from near crossing straight line to the next line always attracted by least resistance.
The circles are actually polygons which creates the spiral routes in means of ever increasing and decreasing polygons which enables consciousness to compress in whirlpool fashions into 3D.
I have been many years engaged on megalithic forums trying to describe why the megaliths were built to interact with this at specific locations and why many had PORTAL doorways.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ancient+russian+dolmens&qpvt=ancient+russian+dolmens&form=IGRE&first=1&tsc=ImageBasicHover
The portal doorway uprights will have had zig zag carvings upon them, this is due to their location upon such, it is where block wall domains are created, which is a magnetic domain where opposite
magnetic flows are found.
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Kumbaya: https://forward.com/news/466518/a-new-study-has-found-that-heartbeats-actually-harmonize-during-this/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=news
For reference:
For reference:
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Bio-Inspired Design by Neri Oxman:
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This is one of the reasonings behind the KEEP TWO METRES APART.
Together We are strong.
Divide et impera.
We attune together via our fields.
That is why churches and sports stadia are shut.
Divide et impera.
I studied crop circles for years and began to realise how the crops were too tightly planted and thus forming a resistance to the planets natural in/out flows of consciousness.
Cities have this effect of forming resistances and thus creating overloads of negative flows of consciousness.
The planet is a living being.
hobbit
Together We are strong.
Divide et impera.
We attune together via our fields.
That is why churches and sports stadia are shut.
Divide et impera.
I studied crop circles for years and began to realise how the crops were too tightly planted and thus forming a resistance to the planets natural in/out flows of consciousness.
Cities have this effect of forming resistances and thus creating overloads of negative flows of consciousness.
The planet is a living being.
hobbit
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De-Extinction, and Biodiversity Generation: https://futurism.com/the-byte/neuralink-cofounder-tech-build-actual-jurassic-park
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First results from the Muon g-2 experiment in: https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj8ddm/major-physics-experiment-suggests-something-unknown-is-influencing-reality?utm_content=1617823803&utm_medium=social&utm_source=VICE_facebook&fbclid=IwAR3PWXaXBvIZ020GAn3VMYpuC7GjY4etgb_1zBjrZuUpmMKQW4fMxHTWqII
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It's Hobbit's day....page 25 revealed 
https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7e4g3/found-page-25-of-the-cias-gateway-report-on-astral-projection
PAGE 25:
"Absolute as the model around which the evolution of time-space revolves to ultimately attain a reflection of and union with Him. That thought model, which perfectly reflects the essence or "spirit" of the Absolute fits the Christian metaphysical description of the Holy Spirit. Finally, our description of the universal hologram, the Torus of creation and evolution is neither new nor original. Its use as the figure of the universe, of creation developing in evolution is found in various stylized representations in virtually every religious system of antiquity, whether of eastern or western derivation. Whether its the stylized labyrinth once popular in the Helenic world, the spiralized version of the Hebrew Tree of Life or its Hindu counterpart, or the Chinese Spiral Through The Fourfold Powers, the ultimate meaning is the same. Mystics the world over, it seems, have perceived the universal hologram in the same spiral form and have incorporated that intuitive knowledge in their religious writings from antiquity to the present.
35. Left Brain Limitations. Twentieth Century physics would seem to be revisiting insights belonging to mankind as far back as written records can take us. The only difference is that Twentieth Century physics is using a left brain, linear, quantitative style of reasoning to approach the same knowledge which the mystics of old apparently acquired in a holistic, intuitional, right brain style. As a tool in the hands of our left brain culture, Gateway would seem to be a promising method for achieving the intuitive, holistic type of interface with the universal hologram needed to provide the context that thinkers like Einstein have sought in their labors to discover a unified field theory in physics. For persons in our profession whose concerns revolve around strategic issues, tactical questions and matters of managerial form and system, access to a new world of intuitive perception and self reflection would seem to offer, in the long term, the means by which to know in a truly objective way. This is so because the self-imposed limitations to balanced perception and objective logic which our cultural and personal psychological subjectivity imposes when we use the strictly left brain thinking style could be offset by the holistic form of perception associated with altered states of consciousness. To the extent that we come to perceive ourselves fully in the context of that portion of the universal hologram which is the reflection of ourselves, to that extent we release ourselves from the prison of subjectivity.
36. Self Knowledge. It was axiomatic to the mystic philosophers of old that the first step in personal maturity could be expressed in the aphorisa: "Know thyself." To them, the education of a man undertook, as its primary step, achievement of an introverted focus so that he learned what was within himself before attempting to approach the outside world. They rightly assumed that he could not effectively evaluate and cope with the world until he fully understood his personal psychological balance. The insights being provided by Twentieth Century psychology in this context through the use of various kinds of personality testing seem to be a revalidation of this ancient intuition. But no personality test, or series of tests, will ever replace the depth and fullness of the perception of self which can be achieved when the mind alters its state of consciousness sufficiently to perceive the very hologram of itself which it has projected into the universe in its proper context as part of the universal hologram in a totally holistic and intuitional way. This would seem to be one of the real promise of the Gateway Experience from the standpoint of its ability to provide a portal through which, based on months if not years of practice, the individual may pass in his search to find self, personal effectuality, and truth in the larger sense."
https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7e4g3/found-page-25-of-the-cias-gateway-report-on-astral-projectionPAGE 25:
"Absolute as the model around which the evolution of time-space revolves to ultimately attain a reflection of and union with Him. That thought model, which perfectly reflects the essence or "spirit" of the Absolute fits the Christian metaphysical description of the Holy Spirit. Finally, our description of the universal hologram, the Torus of creation and evolution is neither new nor original. Its use as the figure of the universe, of creation developing in evolution is found in various stylized representations in virtually every religious system of antiquity, whether of eastern or western derivation. Whether its the stylized labyrinth once popular in the Helenic world, the spiralized version of the Hebrew Tree of Life or its Hindu counterpart, or the Chinese Spiral Through The Fourfold Powers, the ultimate meaning is the same. Mystics the world over, it seems, have perceived the universal hologram in the same spiral form and have incorporated that intuitive knowledge in their religious writings from antiquity to the present.
35. Left Brain Limitations. Twentieth Century physics would seem to be revisiting insights belonging to mankind as far back as written records can take us. The only difference is that Twentieth Century physics is using a left brain, linear, quantitative style of reasoning to approach the same knowledge which the mystics of old apparently acquired in a holistic, intuitional, right brain style. As a tool in the hands of our left brain culture, Gateway would seem to be a promising method for achieving the intuitive, holistic type of interface with the universal hologram needed to provide the context that thinkers like Einstein have sought in their labors to discover a unified field theory in physics. For persons in our profession whose concerns revolve around strategic issues, tactical questions and matters of managerial form and system, access to a new world of intuitive perception and self reflection would seem to offer, in the long term, the means by which to know in a truly objective way. This is so because the self-imposed limitations to balanced perception and objective logic which our cultural and personal psychological subjectivity imposes when we use the strictly left brain thinking style could be offset by the holistic form of perception associated with altered states of consciousness. To the extent that we come to perceive ourselves fully in the context of that portion of the universal hologram which is the reflection of ourselves, to that extent we release ourselves from the prison of subjectivity.
36. Self Knowledge. It was axiomatic to the mystic philosophers of old that the first step in personal maturity could be expressed in the aphorisa: "Know thyself." To them, the education of a man undertook, as its primary step, achievement of an introverted focus so that he learned what was within himself before attempting to approach the outside world. They rightly assumed that he could not effectively evaluate and cope with the world until he fully understood his personal psychological balance. The insights being provided by Twentieth Century psychology in this context through the use of various kinds of personality testing seem to be a revalidation of this ancient intuition. But no personality test, or series of tests, will ever replace the depth and fullness of the perception of self which can be achieved when the mind alters its state of consciousness sufficiently to perceive the very hologram of itself which it has projected into the universe in its proper context as part of the universal hologram in a totally holistic and intuitional way. This would seem to be one of the real promise of the Gateway Experience from the standpoint of its ability to provide a portal through which, based on months if not years of practice, the individual may pass in his search to find self, personal effectuality, and truth in the larger sense."
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Do You mean I am not stupid, as Dan keeps calling Me?
That i really can detect a duality of spin states of consciousness that chases itself eternally?
That it spirals in compression to create 3D reality?
And it all needs a simple soul to interact with it?
K.I.S.S.
Spin spin spin.
To every season turn turn turn,
There is a reason, turn, turn, turn.
Luckily I am a simple sort, otherwise it would drive one crazy as our indoctrination into total left brain thinking is turning us into stone.
I am Me as You are Me and We are all together.
hobbit
That i really can detect a duality of spin states of consciousness that chases itself eternally?
That it spirals in compression to create 3D reality?
And it all needs a simple soul to interact with it?
K.I.S.S.
Spin spin spin.
To every season turn turn turn,
There is a reason, turn, turn, turn.
Luckily I am a simple sort, otherwise it would drive one crazy as our indoctrination into total left brain thinking is turning us into stone.
I am Me as You are Me and We are all together.
hobbit
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Maybe it’s time to set aside your dowsing rods.
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dan wrote:Maybe it’s time to set aside your dowsing rods.
No chance, I have too much yet to puzzle out.
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The dowsing rods are your scrying stone?
Ok, the Quantum is my scrying stone.
Ok, the Quantum is my scrying stone.
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mother-trees-are-intelligent-they-learn-and-remember/
Q: "Your use of the word “intelligent” to describe trees is controversial. But it seems like you are making an even more radical assertion—that there is an “intelligence” in the ecosystem as a whole."
A: "You used the word “controversial.” That comes from me using a human term to describe a highly evolved system that works, that actually has structures that are very similar to our brain. They are not brains, yet they have all the characteristics of intelligence: the behaviors, the responses, the perceptions, the learning, the archiving of memory. And what is being sent through those networks are [chemicals] like glutamate, which is an amino acid that also serves as a neurotransmitter in our brain. I call the system “intelligent” because it is the most analogous word that I can find in the English language to describe what I am seeing."
Q: "Your use of the word “intelligent” to describe trees is controversial. But it seems like you are making an even more radical assertion—that there is an “intelligence” in the ecosystem as a whole."
A: "You used the word “controversial.” That comes from me using a human term to describe a highly evolved system that works, that actually has structures that are very similar to our brain. They are not brains, yet they have all the characteristics of intelligence: the behaviors, the responses, the perceptions, the learning, the archiving of memory. And what is being sent through those networks are [chemicals] like glutamate, which is an amino acid that also serves as a neurotransmitter in our brain. I call the system “intelligent” because it is the most analogous word that I can find in the English language to describe what I am seeing."
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https://futurism.com/the-byte/mit-researcher-ufo-new-laws-physics
Rather than convincing people that UFOs do in fact exist, Virk is hoping to “encourage academics and industry leaders to move beyond their biases into an open-minded investigation to figure out who or what created them, and how they work.”
Rather than convincing people that UFOs do in fact exist, Virk is hoping to “encourage academics and industry leaders to move beyond their biases into an open-minded investigation to figure out who or what created them, and how they work.”
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We are already dead, now that is something to try to convince a muppet of.
It might be better for them to figure out who and what they themselves are and how their minds work and how to live here.
It might be better for them to figure out who and what they themselves are and how their minds work and how to live here.
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"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence." - Nikola Tesla
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I didn’t wait for them.
One does for themselves and dies alone.
My heart spoke to me in silence and darkness and said...
“I love you with all my heart.”
Should I tell my wife?
One does for themselves and dies alone.
My heart spoke to me in silence and darkness and said...
“I love you with all my heart.”
Should I tell my wife?
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