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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by truth_hurts Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:15 pm

    Hi,I'm a new member, I will probably stuff up something while using this forum, till I figure out how it all works.

    But, I want to discuss with interested parties, the problem of pseudo science being accepted wholesale by every institute of advanced learning today, in every country.

    Im referring to the false science of modern physics, namely anything based on Einsteins work, and anything to do with Quantum Mechanics.

    Thats a lot of rubbish being taught to students.

    Not just special relativity, but general relativity, and everything quantum has spawned such stupid claims as Big Bang, Black Holes, spacetime, Parallel Universes, Dark energy and dark matter, gravity waves, CMB, and accelerating universe. (faster than light speed!) and quantum computers.

    Its all deception folks!

    Anyone care to discuss this? and the reasons why its being pushed like some drug?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:21 pm

    Are you a physicist?

    Welcome.
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    Post by truth_hurts Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:37 pm

    smelly wrote:Are you a physicist?

    Welcome.
    Thanks for the welcome.
    No, thankfully I'm not a Physicist. Thankfully because I've not been subjected to the years of solid indoctrination that one is subjected to when embarking on an approved course of study.

    I study on my own behalf, reading the work of others, those for mainstream science and those against.

    I'm not proposing any new theories,
    I just want to shine a spotlight on the accepted theories that are nonsense.

    I also believe that science (especially Physics) has to some degree been hijacked by people with an agenda that is not in the best interests of the general public.

    So I'm open to discussing anything along this line of thinking, pro and con.







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    Post by dan Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:15 am

    th,

    Maybe you came to the right place........

    Has physics been hijacked? Yes and no.

    We’ve got to keep the internet up and running..... probably until we’re halfway to Monadnock, which might be another couple hundred years.......

    Technology is the physicists’ placebo. They have to believe, just to keep the cell phones working. I love my cell phone.


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    Post by truth_hurts Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:34 am

    dan wrote:th,

    Maybe you came to the right place........

    I hope so.
    Im hoping that there are interested informed people who share my interest in disecting some of the more bizarre, but accepted scientific theories, especially those related to Physics and theoritical cosmology, which uses the stranger theories of Physics to invent the weirdest possibilities (or impossibilities)

    Bizarre indeed are all of Einstein’s theories, which I say are all totally impossibly wrong.

    Same with all of Quantum Mechanics.
    Seems that the weirder and wackier the hypothesis, the faster the professors are willing to embrace it.

    No thought is given to the notion that maybe, just maybe, we all have been racing off down a dead end track, and all our current theories are just ad-hoc inventions of the mind, with no relationship to reality.


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    Post by dan Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:38 am

    I’m an immaterialist.......

    Physics is not wrong, we just take it too seriously.

    I start with the Anthropic Principle.... we can work backward from there......

    This is a dream, and we’re the cosmic dreamers.  

    And, because time is an illusion, this is the best possible dream.

    And free will is also an illusion.  

    This is known technically as personalism...... I would call it Cosmic personalism.  

    The corollary of cosmic personalism is that the best possible world is geocentric and anthropocentric.  I also suspect that it is Christocentric.  That’s a whole other discussion.  

    Immaterialism, phenomenalism, idealism and personalism are all pretty much the same thing, in my estimation.  

    Another way to look at the problem is simply that....... since science has no place to put consciousness, we’ll have to put science in consciousness...... https://www.amazon.com/Science-Within-Consciousness-Developing-Primacy/dp/B005HDLKD6

    I spent a day with Amit, back in the eighties. He wanted to ascribe consciousness to bacteria. Instead of a personalist, he was a bacterialist.

    The lesson is that you can’t construct a world with mere sentience. You need sapience from the git go.

    th seems to have left the building.......

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    Post by truth_hurts Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:22 pm

    dan wrote:I’m an immaterialist.......

    Physics is not wrong, we just take it too seriously.

    I start with the Anthropic Principle.... we can work backward from there......

    This is a dream, and we’re the cosmic dreamers.  

    And, because time is an illusion, this is the best possible dream.

    And free will is also an illusion.  


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    Well for me you have made a similar mistake as the materialists, in that you have thrown out the baby with the bath water.
    Both these views are too polarized, the reality I experience seems to me to be somewhere in the middle, with strong physicality and strong spirituality.
    In this thread, I’m mainly wanting to thrash out where Physics currently lies, and why.
    So for me, a great way to begin is with Einstein, as it was in that time that most of the obvious mistakes in Physics were made. The burning question is WHY these obvious mistakes are still adhered to by believers in mainstream academia, as strongly as poo sticks to a wool blanket.


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    Post by dan Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:10 am

    th,

    Maybe the truth is a compromise...... maybe it isn’t.  

    Maybe, th, you should learn about the coherence theory of truth (CohTT).

    Maybe the Truth doesn’t hurt.  Maybe it is firmly planted in our souls.  We are comprised of love and truth...... just a thought.....

    Maybe we are not an afterthought.  Maybe we are thought.... incarnate.  We are one with God...... just a thought.....

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