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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:22 pm

    Grant Cameron is claiming that Foot Mann is CIA's Ron Pandolpi, that Dan Smith is a Foot Mann puppet and that he has solved several of their (dis)information communications right here on Good Old OMF.

    Isn't that special. cheers

    Here's where I get confused. confused Cameron constantly refers to Foot Mann and Dan Puppet Smith's most recent posts...that do not exist on OMF.

    It could be me. Don't think so.

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    Post by SurfBum Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:16 am

    Chicken Little is our hero of Zero!

    If there is disinformation to be uprooted, we can count on our very own Chicken Little to do the digging.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:22 am

    Bahahaha

    Grant is missing it completely.

    What a muppet.

    If Grant was doing his Shadow work, same for AP, they would only be talking about this personally, but they aren't.

    Just actors in the play.

    Tvey are the puppets of their egos.

    Which is all good with some evil to even it all out.
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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:21 pm

    TheSloth wrote:Chicken Little is our hero of Zero!

    If there is disinformation to be uprooted, we can count on our very own Chicken Little to do the digging.

    None of which addresses my questions.
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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:23 pm

    smelly wrote:Bahahaha

    Grant is missing it completely.

    What a muppet.

    If Grant was doing his Shadow work, same for AP, they would only be talking about this personally, but they aren't.

    Just actors in the play.

    Tvey are the puppets of their egos.

    Which is all good with some evil to even it all out.

    Missing what? It? What? When was the last time you listened to Grant Cameron?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:16 pm

    I listen to everyone.

    It’s Daimons and they aren’t going away.

    Ready or not, the shadow comes.

    The evolution of consciousness.

    We use your imagination to make this.

    It’s double causation from future observations affecting our present illusion.

    So if one understands this, they aren’t putting a trail of breadcrumbs together the higharchy puts out, but everyone is doing what they should, so mostly it’s on auto pilot.

    And we aren’t food for the moon or fighting a demiturd.

    We are the danger.

    The rational mind just can’t make the leap...yet.

    You have to be crazy to become a God.
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    Post by U Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:57 pm

    Demiturd

    Haaaaaaaaaa

    Now that's a good one

    Who's the danger?

    Is Smelly the one who knocks?
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    Post by GrandCru Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:37 am

    Alchemical Coincidence wrote:

    Here's where I get confused.  confused Cameron constantly refers to Foot Mann and Dan Puppet Smith's most recent posts...that do not exist on OMF.


    Could you be specific about the content that Cameron is referencing? You can look at the members tab and scroll through a particular member's posts.
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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:45 am

    GrandCru wrote:
    Alchemical Coincidence wrote:

    Here's where I get confused.  confused Cameron constantly refers to Foot Mann and Dan Puppet Smith's most recent posts...that do not exist on OMF.


    Could you be specific about the content that Cameron is referencing? You can look at the members tab and scroll through a particular member's posts.

    That's the point. Grant claims that a post was made (recently), names the poster, then when I look for new Foot Mann and Smith posts...they don't exist.
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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:46 am

    smelly wrote:I listen to everyone.

    It’s Daimons and they aren’t going away.

    Ready or not, the shadow comes.

    The evolution of consciousness.

    We use your imagination to make this.

    It’s double causation from future observations affecting our present illusion.

    So if one understands this, they aren’t putting a trail of breadcrumbs together the higharchy puts out, but everyone is doing what they should, so mostly it’s on auto pilot.

    And we aren’t food for the moon or fighting a demiturd.

    We are the danger.

    The rational mind just can’t make the leap...yet.

    You have to be crazy to become a God.

    uh huh

    Hey, Goat, is there an Ignore function?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:41 am

    You are now on ignore.

    You didn’t have anything anyway.

    Pay attention.
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    Post by Marillion Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:55 pm

    Alchemical Coincidence and GrandCru:  regarding the missing posts, I think this normal for Dan as when he does not approv of
    the direction of discourse he removes the posts.  I have been reading Dan's blog for over a year and have noticed this, a post will be present in the morning and gone in the afternoon without explanation but I have printed the post to read as my eyesight is poor.  I find that Dan has power of administration to do this and that the removed post will not appear in any search.

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    Post by dan Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:31 pm

    Excuse me, Mari, but we’ll need to see the forensics on that one.

    I do, very occasionally, edit posts, especially ones with redundant quotes. It is possible that some other admin did so, but not to my knowledge.

    Sorry......
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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:22 pm

    dan wrote:Excuse me, Mari, but we’ll need to see the forensics on that one.

    I do, very occasionally, edit posts, especially ones with redundant quotes.  It is possible that some other admin did so, but not to my knowledge.  

    Sorry......

    Edit no deletions, eh?

    OK. Back to the delusional Grant Cameron.
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:46 pm

    Dan doesn't believe in mistakes so I don't think this claim about deleting posts makes any sense.

    This is the best possible world after all.
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    Post by painterdoug Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:14 pm

    A C / do you know what thread Grant Cameron was referring to? there have been plenty of posts by Footman on the forum.

    Grant is a really good guy, doing his best, dedicated his life to this research and inquiry.Right or wrong, he is not a disinformation guy by any means. In my mind, a disinformation guy is someone who is , by intent, willfully spreading disinformation.

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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:57 pm

    painterdoug wrote:A C  / do you know what thread Grant Cameron was referring to?  there have been plenty of posts by Footman on the forum.

    No, all he says is CIARon has posted this or Dan PuppetSmith has posted that recently.




    Grant is a really good guy, doing his best, dedicated his life to this research and inquiry.Right or wrong, he is not a disinformation  guy by any means.  In my mind, a disinformation guy is someone who is , by intent, willfully spreading disinformation.  


    Grant Cameron, good guy or not, flaps his jaws endlessly, his speech is testing in-coherency and he is rapidly becoming irrelevant to all but the few Grant Cameron admirers.

    i may love him.

    Or I may not.
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    Post by painterdoug Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:37 am

    A C

    I would never deny a man his opinion.
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    Post by dan Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:44 am

    AC,

    Grant and I are members in good standing of the jaw flapping club...... thank you very much.
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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:37 pm

    painterdoug wrote:A C

    I would never deny a man his opinion.    

    Very special.
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    Post by Alchemical Coincidence Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:45 pm

    dan wrote:AC,

    Grant and I are members in good standing of the jaw flapping club...... thank you very much.

    Two things with certainty are going on.

    1) There are none so blind as those who desperately want to be special.

    2) Cryptic crap is forever cryptic crap.

    Add a dash of Hair King Grant Cameron and either they're really clever, or I'm really stupid.

    I wonder which it is?

    Not really.
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    Post by dan Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:59 pm

    AC,

    You make two statements, and then pose two contrasting premises.

    I accept neither of your statements, nor either of your premises.

    Where does that leave us?

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    Post by GrandCru Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:35 pm

    Alchemical Coincidence wrote:
    painterdoug wrote:A C

    I would never deny a man his opinion.    

    Very special.

    AC- as you point out Grant's slide into irrelevance(which I disagree about to an extent), who else would you cite as being the most relevant to you in this topic?
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    Post by painterdoug Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:16 pm

    I spoke to Grant today. Just because he hasn't posted here, doesn't mean he is irrelevant.

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    Post by U Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:54 pm

    To be honest, I can't think of a UFO researcher more relevant these days than Grant Cameron, whether I agree with his conclusions or not.

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