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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Cuan Scott Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:52 am

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    SIGN ..

    Get well soon, Hudson. Thinking of you beautiful boy and visualising you well. Stay positive Sign.
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    Post by 99 Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:52 am

    A 'devil dog'? No waaaaay! That looks like a smile to me because his eye's are smiling too and he's got nice white teeth! Love Hudson! Beautiful dog in more ways than one! Smile You can tell he's a real pussy-cat! lol
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    Post by AtomicBrando Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:57 am

    Very good smelly, yes, come to me beasts of the field and I will give you rest...

    Awareness bites balls, right?!

    Like what the fuck is that shit!

    Everyone is wrong?!

    Yep.

    Cope out we think.

    Arrogant goat we thought.

    All reflections of ego shimmering before Awareness.

    Ego will argue it’s case until it evaporates into death.

    To say there is no where to go, no thing to do, no understanding seems like utter nonsense.

    Well...ease into it baby.

    I have come to know thats the reason for being.

    To self reflect.

    Following your hallucinations is insanity, following others’ hallucinations is called Religion.

    But I don’t have bad thing to say about religion.

    It is a nice comfort.

    But it can be left or moved beyond.

    Anyway, today I though among the white clouds with this goat here beside me, Life is pretty great.

    It seems this is effortless living and too easy.

    People will hate you to sing and laugh about it out loud I thought, they will just ignore the beauty of now with me.

    Well, as always, I said, fuck em.

    Life is beautiful right here and I’ll splash in it forever.

    What else is needed?

    To have fun and so I will...with stylez.



    Fake it until you give up, then have fun with this material of life.

    Sorry to interrupt the dog flow, but another flow was heading for OMF.

    Nice after a big flow eh Wink
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    Post by AtomicBrando Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:49 pm

    Whoa, massive hints to disoclosure today.

    UFO as the soul, soul as UFO.

    Always felt the light and orbs are just us.

    Like the flowers and insects in my garden.

    We are all part of a bigger movement.

    Connection between afterlife and here.

    Strieber may be onto something.

    Massive synchronicities Ack.

    Fun game.

    I have to stop eating sugar.



    My God, it’s full of stars.

    I just realized why they can’t reveal the truth about aliens, no one will accept how integrated with us they are.

    How creepy it all is.

    The illusion is too good.

    They can’t stop the illusion, or it would collapse.

    UFO Disclosure people will not accept it either.

    Look at how they struggle with the Way.

    There is only the flow of the Way.

    There is a kind of cosmic bliss channel you can hack into.

    People like AP and Ack must know how to externalize soul, but that's missing the point.  

    Perhaps OMF is a honey pot.

    No one will accept Daimons woke up monkeys.

    It will crack their heads open.

    This is a very very fun game.

    What next...



    I agree with TPTB.

    They don’t need to know.

    The crazy ones won’t let it go...ever.

    Let them chase their tails.

    Let it be.

    Nope, they don’t need to know.

    The ones who should do.

    You can observe this, but better to be one with The Unfolding.

    I am anti-Disclosure.
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    Post by AtomicBrando Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:23 pm

    Yes! YES!

    Now we come to IT!!!

    Finally...

    One question remains, how does One best serve Truth in the expression of their being?

    It isn’t being passive and just observing.

    That’s a conditioned response of mind.

    We are what we are, no matter how far beyond the fence we go, we are still prisoners of our own device.

    How to sync with your base essence is the same question as how shall I best serve truth?

    Some of us have gone inside.

    We learn we can apply no force in life that can’t be used against us, so what to do?

    Stop struggling first, be still.

    Then the snake loses its grip and slides off you like a second skin.

    “If you feel that the best way to serve truth is to protest, resist, build awareness about what is
    happening in the world, then do that, but I would recommend doing it from a non-polarity
    perspective. You can’t fight separation with more separation, it will only polarize. It’s important
    to feel that you are standing up, not in fear or some other programmed emotion, but that
    you are aligned to your life essence and in expression of that source within you, even
    when you protest.”

    This is why we we let fear go.

    Very nicely played.

    Like a symphony.



    Look at this lil ole boy from Virgina Ma.

    Secrets of the Universe on tap.

    Haha.

    Ahhhh.

    Fun.
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    Post by AtomicBrando Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:15 pm

    Everything has come from no-thing and will return to no-thing

    Every form contains within it a seed of its own opposite and will produce its contrary

    Nature loves to conceal things, meet the unconscious, our true nature

    Shake these three ways energy flows in matter up and add some intuition, without fear, and you will have one hell of a bang up fun life.

    When all the towers are torn down, the light of the central Star remains.
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    Post by Sweet Release Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:07 am

    Let's see if we can trick these idiots into believing certain bugs don't exist by hammering home the message that when they see those certain bugs "it's all just spiritual."

    They're obsequious enough to run with it.
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    Post by Sweet Release Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:19 am

    AP wrote:We had a major UFO contact this weekend!

    Multiple cameras,  over 13 witnesses... A pre-craft prediction .... and much more

    https://youtu.be/2Y-1xQTVZig

    How about showing us the footage from JUST ONE of the multiple cameras, instead of videoing a foolscap pad for seven minutes?
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    Post by AtomicBrando Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:46 am

    What is the meaning of spiritual?

    A concept.

    Meaning only what we let it mean.

    Awareness is self evident to anyone still.

    Anyone arguing is running from themselves only.

    All philosophies are mental fabrications.

    I am not, I is not.

    Anyone in a story of their life is pretending.
    Any priest or monk or none is pretending.
    Any prophet is pretending.
    Anyone living for an afterlife is pretending.
    Any I is pretending.

    Fun to pretend, more fun if you don’t know you are pretending.

    When you first take off your mask, you find you have an infinite number of faces.

    Here we have a portal so we can see the masks more easily.

    All things come from no thing, so all things are possible.
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    Post by GrandCru Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:30 am

    Did anyone hear Dr. Eric Davis on C2C AM?

    Real interesting stuff..worth a listen. I know it's just noise, but noise makes life fun.
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    Post by AtomicBrando Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:51 pm

    We are not just IT, we have hands and minds and feet.

    We are free to do what we like with what we have always.

    Sing, dance, cry, laugh, sit still, it’s all happening.

    We are only free though, if we free ourselves first.
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    Post by 99 Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:31 pm

    GrandCru wrote:Did anyone hear Dr. Eric Davis on C2C AM?

    Real interesting stuff..worth a listen...

    Thanks for suggesting we listen to that podcast. It sounds interesting.

    Here's what's on the C2C site on that interview:

    C2C wrote:
    Recent revelations about the Pentagon's secret UFO study have generated headlines, controversy, and questions. Joining George Knapp in the first half was Dr. Eric Davis (who worked on the study) and previously studied UFOs and related phenomena, including the Skinwalker Ranch, as part of Robert Bigelow's National Institute for Discovery Science. He discussed his work analyzing UFO files, and the latest updates on the now infamous 'Tic Tac' UFO incident. Davis expressed his frustration with those in the UFO research community who have been attacking him on social media and who he says "won’t take ’yes’ for an answer." He says this suspicious attitude towards the limited disclosure of the last few months belies an attitude of those who are "not only ill-informed, they are uninformed."

    Davis says that the efforts of Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) and the Pentagon UFO program that was recently revealed were honest and legitimate programs to use the observed properties of UFOs to determine if they could be used or back-engineered with present or near-future technology. In fact, Davis said that he and others were tasked with researching "white papers" to determine if in at least 50 years in the future, humans could produce aircraft that could perform the observed characteristics of UFOs, which he said appear to be "tech that is not made on earth by humans." As for skeptics who say that Navy and other pilots are poor observers whose testimony cannot be trusted, Davis said that as combat experts, "these guys cannot afford to have poor observational skills." Davis also emphasized more than once that “poltergeist or psychic phenomena are a major aspect” of UFO encounters.

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    We are just one of almost countless planets in the Universe, and it's likely that many of those planets hosted technologically advanced alien civilizations which may have faced the same challenges we're facing today. In the second half, astrophysicist and NPR commentator Adam Frank shared his latest research on the existence and trajectories of alien civilizations and what they may teach us about our own. He described science as "constrained imagination," and discussed the famous Drake equation, which was formulated to give us an idea of the possibility of the number of extraterrestrial civilizations that may have reached an age of technological sophistication. Frank also speculated on the possibility of an earlier Earth civilization, which may have existed 10 to 100 million years ago, and would leave very little trace of itself after that amount of time.

    Frank also discussed the record of Earth’s climate and the scientific consensus that temperatures on the planet have remained fairly constant for at least 10,000 years, and added that "we would have to be unbelievably wrong" about the effects of the sun on climate change for it to be a factor in any warming or cooling trends. The climate patterns on other planets (and even some moons) in the solar system can be used as a sort of universal guide to climates. Frank also used the example of Easter Island, and the depletion of natural resources over a few hundred years and how this can be scaled up to a planetary level. He concluded that "climate change shows how powerful how we’ve become" as a technological species.

    https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2018/06/24
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    Post by AtomicBrando Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:46 pm

    Squaring the Circle

    Reset to Zero...be empty of the concern of becoming non-existent.

    I am down with Nagarjuna...

    “All the dogmatists have been terrified by the lion’s roar of shunyata. Wherever they may reside, shunyata lies in wait!



    I am not, I will not be.
    I have not, I will not have.
    This frightens all children,
    And kills fear in the wise.”

    —Nagarjuna

    Have you faced your fear?

    That’s living.

    The Buddha and Jesus struggled with sharing their experience and I’m sure anyone who opened their mouth has.

    Nāgārjuna has a great caution I take very unseriously.

    “the whole world is cause and effect; excluding this, there is no sentient being. from factors which are empty, empty factors originate.

    there is nothing to be denied and nothing to be affirmed. see the real correctly, for he who sees the real correctly is released.”

    That’s some deep doo doo.

    We are connected by this sticky web time in timelessness they say.

    Don’t know and I’m ok with it.

    You don’t know either.

    How fucking amazing is this then, mind bogglingly amazing.

    And it’s not even here.

    But we are here!

    Obviously we have caused what we can perceive, or is that obvious?

    What a trick?!

    The dogmatists are terrified.

    I AM NOT
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    Post by AtomicBrando Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:59 am

    THE TAMING POWER OF THE GREAT

    Be the same all the way through:
    quiet, still, at home. In the
    absence of mind, all phenomena
    can be seen for what they are -- empty.
    This is freedom.

    WWW

    The wise monkeys shriek at emptiness and beg a nonexistent God for Death.

    Death it shall be in abundance if that is your fear.

    The whole world passes away.

    Where will you be then my little monkeys?

    You won’t care.

    You will be gone.
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    Post by AtomicBrando Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:06 am

    Don’t worry—just try

    You must try
    Only you can
    One liberated mind
    Purifies the universe

    When they quit, you don’t
    When others flee, you stick
    When anger rages, you are calm
    When no one will, you will
    When you have freed yourself
    You will free others
    You are constant as the Sun
    When all believe in every thing else
    Believe in yourself 100%
    Straight on—don’t know

    What does this have to do with phenomena...everything and nothing

    This is the Great Work of Life and Death

    Who is born and who dies

    What you are does not appear or disappear

    This is the Great Mystery

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    Post by Sign Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:12 am

    HI All  

    New York Post wrote:Oxford University - Scientists say humans are alone in the universe


    And i Thought i was the Dumb F**ker

    Plus these Scientists are most likely getting paid for this report.  Very Happy    F**king Dumb wits..  

    Which Government are they being paid by ???



    Sign.. " live long an Prosper"
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    Post by Sign Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:27 am

    And they say animals (dogs are Dumb..) Hudson is brighter than i am.. Very Happy

    The bugger just ran out the factory .. followed the ice Cream van and sat and waited for one... Laughing  

    He got his for nothing.. i had to pay for mine.. Mad


    i jest you NOT>.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:56 am

    If you are observing OMF, we have been divided into sheep and goats.

    As it goes here, it goes in the world.

    I love it, it’s a beautiful symphony.
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:02 pm

    dan wrote:AP,

    I would say that discretion is the better part of valor.  

    Dan,

    Did you decamp? I know it's been a while, but I've been busy. Still, if you're around, I have new questions.

    #1: What is up with the new Puthoff-DeLong show that's been blasting the UFO airwaves of late? Yes, I read Grant's transcript of Puthoff's talk at the latest SSE conference.

    #2: Why did Jack join the MAGA cult?

    #3: Is there a connection between Bigelow luminaries like Alexander, Puthoff, Davis, and Knapp and the 'anti-deep state' ex-CIA like Robert David Steele and Steve Pieczenik? And even Ray McGovern!

    How does this connect with UFOs? And China. Because China is the current target. And was the target under Obama with his Pivot policy too.
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