By the way, both a's in Laval are pronounced short as in the English ''pan'' in the N. Am. accent, as are many a's in French, especially in the beginning and middle of a word, in Europe as well as Canada, contrary to the bizarre view of orthodoxers, in fact, a view so bizarre, it is down there with slopism (as I call it, the view that there are no other minds) and psychic projection, which are even more bizarre than dogmatic skepticism, if that's possible.
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Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
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Hello from Canada
By the way, both a's in Laval are pronounced short as in the English ''pan'' in the N. Am. accent, as are many a's in French, especially in the beginning and middle of a word, in Europe as well as Canada, contrary to the bizarre view of orthodoxers, in fact, a view so bizarre, it is down there with slopism (as I call it, the view that there are no other minds) and psychic projection, which are even more bizarre than dogmatic skepticism, if that's possible.
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Re: Hello from Canada
My friends and close associates call me Cy. I'm the Admin here as you know. I'm not always here on a daily basis like Dan Smith is but if you pm me as you did earlier or leave a message for me on my blog I get a note in my email to respond in a timely fashion. Lots of irons in the fire for me this year!
So you are Canadian? Are you french or Scot Canadian or something else? I'm south of you in Montana and we have many Canadian visitors here. I've only visited Canada once and it was a wonderful experience. The people I met up there were incredibly friendly and helpful. Took the kids to the Calgary Zoo. Unfortunately the US now requires us all to have passports to go visiting over the border and since we're a large family it simply makes that too expensive to do now.
Cy
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Re: Hello from Canada
I'm a lifetime member of the Intl. Soc. for Philosophers. I have an above average IQ but not enough to be in Mensa. I read some of Dan Smith's thread, and there are some things I agree with and some not. Like him I'm a fan of Leibniz but not all the way thru. What I especially like about Leibniz is his necessary truths, something irrationalists (most scientists) don't recognize, which is 1 reason they are usually wrong.
I'm of French and Italian descent and was born in Montreal. I'm glad you visited Calgary and liked it. It's only a hop, skip, and a jump from Montana as you know.
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Re: Hello from Canada
I have a semi-neglected disorganized blog here called: Uncommon Thoughts On Common Things. It's mostly a dumping ground (when I have time) for things of interest in my own sphere. This year I've had so much radio and Manticore Group stuff, there's not alot of posts. I've been revamping my social networking and routine to be able to spend more time here and produce more coherency. It's a work in progress.
If you'd like you're own space you are welcome to set one up. Anyone who does so I give them moderation powers so they can keep house in it as they see fit. There's plenty of room here for anyone who needs to run a little separate from you or vice versa. That's one of the benefits of not being one of the 'big boys' in the world of forums. We do, fyi, get a fairly high traffic of intelligence community employed characters, but they usually are strictly readers. They haven't caused any problems for us here so I don't use them for target practice, and they're welcome to come and go same as anyone else.
Cy
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"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Rue she said Protection
Rooster's Crow Confusion
One thing else to end the deed --
A dog with no Illusion.
~ Walter Wangerin Jr., Book of the Dun Cow
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