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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:47 am

    JAMES CORBETT’S SHORT, BUT PITHY EXPLANATION OF 9-11:


    Posted in: News | No Comments | Posted on November 14, 2013 by Jim


    BLUNT TRUTH DEPT.

    Commentator James Corbett lays bare the unvarnished, if almost humorous, truth about the official explanation of the 9/11 attacks. As you read this and smile, just remember that this is what, in all seriousness, your government expects you to swallow concerning the loss of life and property that day.

     

    Jim

    JAMES CORBETT’S SHORT, BUT PITHY  EXPLANATION OF  9-11:

     

    On the morning of September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with boxcutters directed by a man on dialysis in a cave fortress halfway around the world using a satellite phone and a laptop directed the most sophisticated penetration of the most heavily-defended airspace in the world, overpowering the passengers and the military combat-trained pilots on 4 commercial aircraft before flying those planes wildly off course for over an hour without being molested by a single fighter interceptor.

    These 19 hijackers, devout religious fundamentalists who liked to drink alcoholsnort cocaine, and live with pink-haired strippers, managed to knock down 3 buildings with 2 planes in New York, while in Washington a pilot who couldn’t handle a single engine Cessna was able to fly a 757 in an 8,000 foot descending 270 degree corskscrew turn to come exactly level with the ground, hitting the Pentagon in the budget analyst office where DoD staffers were working on the mystery of the 2.3 trillion dollars that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had announced “missing” from the Pentagon’s coffers in apress conference the day before, on September 10, 2001.

    Luckily, the news anchors knew who did it within minutes, the pundits knew within hours, the Administration knew within the day, and the evidence literally fell into the FBI’s lap. But for some reason a bunch of crazy conspiracy theoristsdemanded an investigation into the greatest attack on American soil in history.

    The investigation was delayedunderfundedset up to fail, a conflict of interest and a cover up from start to finish. It was[url=http://books.google.com/books?id=3ItzwLVo8DwC&pg=PA161&dq="Our+access+to+them+has+been+limited+to+the+review+of+intelligence+reports+based+on+communications+received+from+the+locations+where+the+actual+interrogations+took+place.++we+submitted+questions+for+use+in+the+interrogations,+but+had+not+control+over+whether,+when,+or+how+questions+of+particular+interest+would+be+asked.++Nor+were+we+allowed+to+talk+to+the+interrogators+so+that+we+could+better+judge+the+credibility+of+the+detainees+and+clarify+ambiguities+in+the+reporting."&ei=Nn1cR-CpJIOCsgPKjJHeBw&sig=KxPuuLu_6sRaDbk536CE7StD-4A#v=onepage&q="Our access to them has been limited to the review of intelligence reports based on communications received from the locations where the actual interrogations took place. we submitted%]based on testimony[/url] extracted through torture, the records of which were destroyed. It failed to mention the existence ofWTC7Able DangerPtechSibel EdmondsOBL and the CIA, and the drills of hijacked aircraft being flown into buildings that were being simulated at the precise same time that those events were actually happening. It was lied to by thePentagon, the CIA, the Bush Administration and as for Bush and Cheney…well, no one knows what they told it because they testified in secretoff the recordnot under oath and behind closed doors. It didn’t bother to look at who funded the attacks because that question is of “little practical significance“. Still, the 9/11 Commission did brilliantly, answering all of the questions the public had (except most of the victims’ family members’ questions) and pinned blame on all the people responsible (although no one so much as lost their job), determining the attacks were “a failure of imagination” because “I don’t think anyone could envision flying airplanes into buildings ” except the Pentagon and FEMA and NORAD and the NRO.

    The DIA destroyed 2.5 TB of data on Able Danger, but that’s OK because it probably wasn’t important.

    The SEC destroyed their records on the investigation into the insider trading before the attacks, but that’s OK because destroying the records of the largest investigation in SEC history is just part of routine record keeping.

    NIST has classified the data that they used for their model of WTC7′s collapse, but that’s OK because knowing how they made their model of that collapse would “jeopardize public safety“.

    The FBI has argued that all material related to their investigation of 9/11 should be kept secret from the public, but that’s OK because the FBI probably has nothing to hide.

    This man never existed, nor is anything he had to say worthy of your attention, and if you say otherwise you are a paranoid conspiracy theorist and deserve to be shunned by all of humanity. Likewise himhimhim, and her. (and her and her andhim).

    Osama Bin Laden lived in a cave fortress in the hills of Afghanistan, but somehow got away. Then he was hiding out in Tora Bora but somehow got away. Then he lived in Abottabad for years, taunting the most comprehensive intelligence dragnet employing the most sophisticated technology in the history of the world for 10 years, releasing video after video with complete impunity (and getting younger and younger as he did so), before finally being found in a daring SEAL team raid which wasn’t recorded on video, in which he didn’t resist or use his wife as a human shield, and in which these crack special forces operatives panicked and killed this unarmed man, supposedly the best source of intelligence about those dastardly terrorists on the planet. Then they dumped his body in the ocean before telling anyone about it. Then a couple dozen of that team’s members died in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.

    This is the story of 9/11, brought to you by the media which told you the hard truths about JFK and incubator babies andmobile production facilities and the rescue of Jessica Lynch.

    If you have any questions about this story…you are a batshit, paranoid, tinfoil, dog-abusing baby-hater and will be reviled by everyone. If you love your country and/or freedom, happiness, rainbows, rock and roll, puppy dogs, apple pie and your grandma, you will never ever express doubts about any part of this story to anyone. Ever.

    This has been a public service announcement by: the Friends of the FBICIANSADIASECMSMWhite HouseNIST, and the 9/11 Commission. Because Ignorance is Strength.


    Source: http://jimmarrs.com/news_events/news/james-corbetts-short-but-pithy-explanation-of-9-11/


    Truth is indeed stranger than fiction.


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    Post by karl 12 Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:21 pm

    Great post Cyrellys - here it is in video format.


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    Post by Cyrellys Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:42 pm

    Extra, Kudos Karl! I love the vid! I hadn't seen the vid before now. Thanks for posting it!

    My teenage son liking it, agreed it clearly shows the whole event as either a definitive cover up or the weirdest story in human history.

    Cy


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    Post by karl 12 Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:50 pm

    Your welcome Cyrellys and it certainly makes some very astute points (particularly about the FBI investigation) -don't know if you've seen this one but also thought it was relevant to your thread and deals with why some folks will not (or cannot) accept alternate conspiracy theories concerning 9/11:





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