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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    The original Daily Intelligence Brief in OMF version A, was housed in the Exopolitics section.

    Link to the most recent topic material of OMF Archive Content: http://theopenmind.freehostingcloud.com/indexa4bf.html?board=futuretalk&action=display&thread=2628&page=276

    It is more specifically located here in this new thread that specializes in globalism and the current systemic situation.


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    Post by Admin Tue May 15, 2012 1:46 pm

    CIA HQ Insider: 30,000 - 100,000 Russian Troops Scheduled To Arrive In America Within The Next 7 Months

    Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:18% of readers think this story is Fact. Add your two cents.

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    Published on May 3, 2012 by wakeupyt

    John Moore said on Wednesday's broadcast, that he got news from the CIA Headquarters in Langley, Va. reports within the next 7 months, there will be between 30,000 - 100,000 Russian Spetsnaz Troops coming to America to stay. First wave of troops begins on May 21st.



    Please note this video contains edited parts from the John Moore show on May 2, 2012. I have been given permission to use the audio form John's shows for my videos.

    May 2, 2012 Show:216.240.133.177/archives32/Moore/2012/05/Moore_1_050212_070000.mp3

    The John Moore Show is on RBN, Monday - Friday 7-8AM CST:republicbroadcasting.org/shou...shoutcast.html

    RBN's Archives: 216.240.133.177/archives32/Mo...212_070000.mp3

    From Relay: http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2112/509/CIA_HQ_Insider:_30,000_-_100,000_Russian_Troops_Scheduled_To_Arrive_In_America_Within_The_Next_7_Months.html


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    More on the World Bank pushing the depopulation agenda.
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    Chicago In A Jam: Security Services To Block Cell Phone Towers Ahead Of NATO Summit?

    Reports suggest local law enforcement agencies are considering shutting down cell phone services in the city over the weekend and while it will most likely be very effective, many are questioning if the move is legitimate. The Daily Beast reports that the FBI and Secret Service have standing authority to jam signals and they can also push for the shutdown of cell towers, thanks to “Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) 303," which lays out the nation’s official “Emergency Wireless Protocols.” According to the National Communications System, the protocol details a “shutdown and restoration process for use by commercial and private wireless networks during national crises.” It was created after the London bombings in 2005, when federal security services shut off cellular networks in New York’s tunnel, fearing a similar attack.

    more: http://rt.com/usa/news/chicago-nato-cell-phone-jam-525/


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    Post by Admin Sun May 27, 2012 9:34 am

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    Tip of the hat to "Lark" for fetching this one -

    http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/05/25/henry-lamb-on-maurice-strong_un_bilderberg_agenda-21/

    Read entire article (written in 1997) at above link.

    Teasers from article -


    In 1983, Strong was appointed to the U.N.’s World Commission on Environment and Development, headed by Gro Harlem Brundtland, Vice President of the World Socialist Party. Strong also had a colleague appointed as Executive Director, Warren “Chip” Lindner, an American lawyer, based in Geneva who had handled an intricate merger for Strong and who later went to work for the World Wildlife Fund in Gland, Switzerland. Strong, and the World Wildlife Fund, were largely responsible for the content of the Brundtland Commission’s final report, Our Common Future. Before the report was released, Strong was looking to the future.

    At a luncheon with Swedish Prime Minister Ingvar Carlsson in 1986, Strong proposed another world conference on the environment to be held on the 20th anniversary of the Stockholm Conference. Both Sweden and Canada wanted to host the event, but Strong’s visit to Collor de Mello, prospective Brazilian President, convinced Strong that the event should be held in Rio de Janeiro. Dewar says: “I was beginning to understand that the Rio Summit was part of a Rockefeller-envisioned Global Governance Agenda that dated back before World War II….”

    As Strong organized the Rio Conference, he utilized his vast network to ensure the outcome. His office bought Bella Abzug’s airplane tickets to attend a preparatory meeting in Geneva. He asked her to schedule a special conference in Miami for women through her recently formed NGO called Women’s Environment and Development Organization (WEDO). Another NGO formed by Abzug in 1981, the Women’s USA Fund, had been almost dormant until 1991, when the NGO received nearly $1 million. He arranged for the creation of the Business Council on Sustainable Development. Strong’s long-time colleague, and former cabinet minister to Pierre Trudeau, J. Hugh Faulkner, was asked to leave his post as Executive Director of the International Chamber of Commerce to take charge of the new organization. The new organization was immediately accredited to the Rio Conference and designated to advise Strong who “needed people with their feet on the ground to do a reality check on these U.N. guys.” The Canadian Participatory Committee for UNCED (CPCU) was entirely funded by the Canadian government and consisted of carefully selected individuals who represented various NGOs.

    The practice started by Strong at the 1972 conference, of cloaking the agenda in the perception of public grassroots support from NGOs, culminated in Rio in 1992, with the largest collection of NGOs ever assembled in support of Agenda 21. Only those NGOs that were “accredited” by the U.N. Conference were permitted to attend. And only those which had demonstrated support for the agenda were funded. Dewar calls these NGOs — PGOs — Private Government Organizations.

    Strong has influence with the major Foundations which provide the funding for NGOs and he has influence with the major international NGOs that coordinate the activities of the thousands of smaller NGOs around the world. Strong has served, or is currently on the Board of Directors of the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN); the World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF); and the World Resources Institute (WRI); the three international NGOs that have developed and advanced the global agenda since the early 1970s.

    Strong also served on the U.N.-funded Commission on Global Governance, co-chaired by Ingvar Carlsson, and Shirdath Ramphal, former President of the IUCN. The Commission’s final report, Our Global Neighborhood, sets forth detailed plans to achieve what is called “Global Governance.” In his new position as Senior Advisor to Kofi Annan, Strong is again well positioned to implement the agenda he has been developing by calling its implementation “reform.” Undoubtedly, Strong’s NGO network, funded by Foundations and governments tied to Strong’s worldwide interests, will be used to promote the agenda at the national level and at the U.N. level....


    This projection is based upon published recommendations of the U.N.-funded Commission on Global Governance — of which Maurice Strong was a member. The implementation of this “reform” will require an amendment to the U.N. Charter.

    The G-77 nations, which represent 135 of the 185 member nations of the U.N. held a conference in Costa Rica in January [7] to outline amendments to Article 13 of the U.N. Charter which will be necessary to bring about global governance as described in Our Global Neighborhood. Costa Rica is the international headquarters of Strong’s most recent NGO, Earth Council, and the U.N. University, where a portion of the conference was held. Among the other recommendations of the Commission on Global Governance is the elimination of the veto power of the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council, and a review of the entire concept of permanent member status in ten years. Another recommendation would make decisions of the International Court of Justice binding on all nations. Still another would create an International Criminal Court, and a U.N. standing army, and another would provide for independent finance in the form of various global taxation schemes.

    Strong has worked diligently and effectively to bring his ideas to fruition. He is now in a position to implement them. His speeches and writings provide a clear picture of what to expect. In 1991, Strong wrote the introduction to a book published by the Trilateral Commission, called Beyond Interdependence: The Meshing of the World’s Economy and the Earth’s Ecology, by Jim MacNeil. (David Rockefeller wrote the foreword). Strong said this:

    “This interlocking…is the new reality of the century, with profound implications for the shape of our institutions of governance, national and international. By the year 2012, these changes must be fully integrated into our economic and political life.”

    He told the opening session of the Rio Conference (Earth Summit II) in 1992, that industrialized countries have:

    “developed and benefited from the unsustainable patterns of production and consumption which have produced our present dilemma. It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class — involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work-place air-conditioning, and suburban housing — are not sustainable. A shift is necessary toward lifestyles less geared to environmentally damaging consumption patterns.”

    In an essay by Strong entitled Stockholm to Rio: A Journey Down a Generation, he says:

    “Strengthening the role the United Nations can play…will require serious examination of the need to extend into the international arena the rule of law and the principle of taxation to finance agreed actions which provide the basis for governance at the national level. But this will not come about easily. Resistance to such changes is deeply entrenched. They will come about not through the embrace of full blown world government, but as a careful and pragmatic response to compelling imperatives and the inadequacies of alternatives.”

    “The concept of national sovereignty has been an immutable, indeed sacred, principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation. What is needed is recognition of the reality that in so many fields, and this is particularly true of environmental issues, it is simply not feasible for sovereignty to be exercised unilaterally by individual nation-states, however powerful. The global community must be assured of environmental security.”

    http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/05/25/henry-lamb-on-maurice-strong_un_bilderberg_agenda-21/

    Read entire article (written in 1997) at above link.

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    Post by Admin Sun May 27, 2012 9:39 am

    New post on The Extinction Protocol: 2012 and beyond

    Secret meeting of international bankers meet to discuss Eurozone’s fate: Greece thrown under the bus

    by The Extinction Protocol

    May 26, 2012 – LONDON - London will this week host a private global summit on the world financial crisis amid mounting pressure on eurozone economies. No agenda has been published and there will be no communiqué issued afterwards. ‘It is a private, off-the-record meeting,’ said a source. In the past two days, Spain’s fourth biggest lender, Bankia, said it needed a 19 billion euros (£15 billion) bailout and the prosperous region of Catalonia warned that it needed more funding from Madrid. The yield on Spanish government bonds – the government’s likely cost of borrowing – jumped to 6.3 per cent, a figure widely regarded as unsustainable. The summit will be dominated by central bankers including the host, Sir Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England. Mario Draghi, president of the European Central Bank, and Zhou Xiaochuan, governor of the People’s Bank of China, have been invited. The eurozone is paralyzed as it awaits the outcome of elections in Greece on June 17. The left-wing Syriza party is leading in the polls and is pledged to reject austerity. Hawks led by Germany insist that Greece must stand by the cuts program if it is to keep receiving bailout money. Greece might have to exit from the euro. Christine Lagarde, managing director of the International Monetary Fund, also struck an uncompromising stance this weekend, saying she had little sympathy for Greeks who did not pay their taxes and said the country needed to stick to its austerity package. Meanwhile, banknote printer De La Rue releases full-year results on Tuesday. Its shares have jumped as Greece may soon need drachmas. -TIM

    http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2012/05/26/secret-meeting-of-international-bankers-meet-to-discuss-eurozones-fate-greece-thrown-under-the-bus/

    Lloyd’s of London prepares for Eurozone collapse: The chief executive of the multi-billion pound Lloyd's of London has publicly admitted that the world's leading insurance market is prepared for a collapse in the single currency and has reduced its exposure “as much as possible” to the crisis-ridden continent. Richard Ward said the London market had put in place a contingency plan to switch euro underwriting to multi-currency settlement if Greece abandoned the euro. In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph he also revealed that Lloyd's could have to take write-downs on its £58.9bn investment portfolio if the eurozone collapses. Europe accounts for 18pc of Lloyd's £23.5bn of gross written premiums, mostly in France, Germany, Spain and Italy. The market also has a fledgling operation in Poland. Lloyd's move comes as a major Franco-German provider of credit insurance for eurozone trade, Euler Hermes, said it was considering reducing cover for trade with Greece because of the risk the country might leave the eurozone. When a company goes bust, it is often sparked by withdrawal of credit insurance for suppliers wanting to trade with it. A spokesman for Euler Hermes, Bettina Sattler, told Bloomberg: "The outcome of the new elections in June remains highly uncertain. Consequently, the situation is further deteriorating. The risk of Greece exiting the eurozone has been revived. “In light of the recent developments, Euler Hermes will most probably have to switch to a more prudent approach…now we are confronted with a changing situation.” Lloyd's fears are likely to be shared by a number of European businesses, which are watching developments in Greece. On Saturday, Juergen Fitschen, co-chief executive of Deutsche Bank, described Greece as a “failed state” run by corrupt politicians. "I'm quite worried about Europe," Mr Ward said in one of the first admissions by a major UK business leader of the scale of the crisis that would be prompted by a eurozone collapse. –Telegraph

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9292511/Lloyds-of-London-preparing-for-euro-collapse.html


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    SECRECY NEWS
    from the FAS Project on Government Secrecy
    Volume 2012, Issue No. 56
    June 11, 2012

    Secrecy News Blog: http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/


    ** SOME UNAUTHORIZED DISCLOSURES OF CLASSIFIED INFO ARE ROUTINE
    ** LOOPHOLE IN LAW MAY ALLOW WARRANTLESS SURVEILLANCE OF AMERICANS


    SOME UNAUTHORIZED DISCLOSURES OF CLASSIFIED INFO ARE ROUTINE

    The brewing controversy over leaks of classified information presumes that
    disclosures of classified information to unauthorized persons are always
    impermissible and undesirable. But that presumption does not correspond
    precisely to the reality of government operations as they are conducted in
    practice.

    The leaders of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees said last week
    that they would work "to ensure that criminal and administrative measures
    are taken each time sensitive information is improperly disclosed."

    http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2012_cr/leaks060612.html

    In fact, however, classified information is frequently disclosed at the
    interface between national security agencies and the news media. This is
    not necessarily a surreptitious or underhanded process. Rather, though it
    is not often discussed, it is how the system normally functions.

    "I refer to classified information a lot," admitted then-Pentagon press
    secretary Kenneth Bacon at a November 2000 press briefing, when asked
    whether all of his statements from the podium were unclassified.

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2000/11/dod110700.html

    "There are certain questions that I can only answer by referring to
    classified information," Mr. Bacon said at that time, adding that "I do
    this carefully, after consultation with our intelligence authorities, to
    make sure that I don't answer questions in a way that causes any problems."

    This type of routine public discussion of classified information would
    have been obstructed if there were a law that categorically prohibited all
    unauthorized disclosures of classified information. When Congress passed
    such a measure in 2000, Mr. Bacon and other executive branch officials
    quietly opposed it, and it was ultimately vetoed by President Clinton.

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2000/11/wh110400.html

    "There are certain types of questions that can only be answered with
    references to classified information," Mr. Bacon told reporters following
    the presidential veto. "One of the concerns that I and other spokespeople
    had [about the vetoed provision was that] it would prevent reference to
    classified information in answering everyday questions."

    Thus, the peculiar reality is that certain officials routinely take it
    upon themselves to discuss classified information with unauthorized
    persons. They do so not to subvert policy but to explain it, to defend it
    and to execute it. Though it may seem counterintuitive (and may in fact
    violate formal procedures), sometimes officials will even reveal currently
    classified information in order to enhance security.

    Veteran aerospace journalist Craig Covault wrote an article last week in
    which he recalled once such incident in the 1970s. At that time Mr.
    Covault was the space technology editor at Aviation Week, which was
    sometimes referred to as "Aviation Leak" because of the prevalence of
    (actual or purported) classified information in its pages. In the course
    of his reporting, Mr. Covault learned some details about the KH-11
    intelligence satellite shortly following its first launch in December 1976.
    After he queried Air Force public affairs about the matter, he received an
    urgent summons to discuss it that afternoon with the Chairman of the Joint
    Chiefs of Staff. As he described it:

    http://www.americaspace.org/?p=20825

    "I showed up at the Pentagon at the appointed time and was taken up to the
    suite of offices used by Joint Chiefs Of Staff, then ushered into the
    office of Air Force General David Jones, a four star that had commanded the
    Strategic Air Command before becoming Chairman. My escort then departed and
    it was just Jones and myself left to discuss this issue."

    "He said he was familiar with my coverage then asked 'what have you got?'
    I explained in significant detail what sources had told me about the new
    reconnaissance system."

    "'You are exactly right' said Jones, 'and now I am going to give you the
    reasons why we request that you not publish'."

    "He then cited specific examples where the Soviets were not taking any
    measures to conceal what they were doing as this first KH-11 approached and
    passed overhead. Unlike the KH-9s, they did not realize yet that this was a
    high resolution imaging spacecraft that could see people, and tell if they
    were carrying a lunchbox or not."

    "Jones said the Soviets were leaving missile silo doors open allowing us
    to 'look right in' and keeping their own new secret aircraft in the open. If I published, it would ruin a major U. S. intelligence advantage. Jones
    had clearly demonstrated that no articles on the KH-11 should be written at
    that time so I agreed to his request to hold."

    "And on the way out he asked. 'Now is there anything I can do for you?'"

    "There was certainly no quid pro quo in my mind for this discussion, so
    his question was a surprise. But when he asked that, I told him I had not
    received any consistent backgrounders on the Soviet space program. 'You
    will have them now,' Gen. Jones said, and for the next two years I received
    classified backgrounders on the Soviet space program at the Defense
    Intelligence Agency."

    This is a remarkable anecdote in several respects. Significantly, General
    Jones did not declassify the information about the KH-11 satellite, which
    remained highly classified. Instead, he simply revealed it to Mr. Covault,
    an uncleared reporter, even though this was technically inconsistent with
    procedures in effect then and now. Gen. Jones did not insist that Mr.
    Covault sign a non-disclosure agreement, or that he submit his work to some
    kind of prepublication review. Rather, he simply argued the case for
    secrecy on the merits, and he succeeded in persuading Mr. Covault not to
    publish the information in question, to the presumptive benefit of national
    security. (On another occasion described by Mr. Covault in the same
    article, he found the government's request not to publish unpersuasive and
    disregarded it.)

    Was General Jones guilty of "leaking" information to Mr. Covault? Should
    the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff have been fired or sent to prison
    for his actions? He certainly disclosed highly classified information to
    an unauthorized person, and he did so not once but repeatedly through the
    ongoing classified briefings that he arranged for Mr. Covault.

    In other respects, though, this story is quite unremarkable. Many
    national security reporters who write about classified government
    activities and seek a response from a government spokesman will have a
    similar (though perhaps less dramatic) tale to tell.

    If members of Congress are determined to impose punitive measures "each
    time" that classified information is disclosed, then they will be confusing
    means (secrecy) and ends (security). They run the risk of turning an
    already sluggish classification system into one that is so rigid as to be
    self-defeating.
    There is no doubt such a thing as a wrongful and unlawful disclosure of
    classified information, but it seems that there are also wise, prudent and
    appropriate disclosures of classified information. The actions of General
    Jones -- or of Kenneth Bacon or innumerable others who have acknowledged or
    revealed classified information in similar circumstances -- were not those
    of a criminal, and it would almost certainly be counterproductive to try to
    designate them categorically as crimes.


    LOOPHOLE IN LAW MAY ALLOW WARRANTLESS SURVEILLANCE OF AMERICANS

    Members of the Senate Intelligence Committee are divided over whether
    there is a loophole in current law which would permit government agencies
    to monitor the communications of American citizens without any kind of
    warrant or other judicial authorization.

    The dispute was presented but not resolved in a new Senate Intelligence
    Committee report on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act Amendments
    Act (FAA) Sunsets Extension Act, which would renew the provisions of the
    FISA Amendments Act through June 2017.

    "We have concluded... that section 702 [of the Act] currently contains a
    loophole that could be used to circumvent traditional warrant protections
    and search for the communications of a potentially large number of American
    citizens," wrote Senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall.

    But Senator Dianne Feinstein, the Committee chair, denied the existence of
    a loophole. Based on the assurances of the Department of Justice and the
    Intelligence Community, she said that the Section 702 provisions "do not
    provide a means to circumvent the general requirement to obtain a court
    order before targeting a U.S. person under FISA."

    It is unclear from the public record which of these conflicting positions
    is more likely to be correct.

    Senators Wyden and Udall offered an amendment to explicitly prohibit
    searches of U.S. persons' communications that are incidentally gathered in
    the course of FISA surveillance of foreign persons abroad unless there is a
    warrant or other authorization permitting surveillance of that specific
    person, but their amendment was voted down in Committee by 13-2.

    "We have sought repeatedly to gain an understanding of how many Americans
    have had their phone calls or emails collected and reviewed under this
    statute, but we have not been able to obtain even a rough estimate of this
    number," Sens. Wyden and Udall wrote. An Inspector General review is now
    underway to determine whether it is feasible to estimate the number, Sen.
    Feinstein noted.

    See FAA Sunsets Extension Act of 2012, Senate Report 112-174, June 7,
    2012:

    http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2012_rpt/faa-extend.html

    The first three semi-annual reports on compliance with the procedures of
    Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act were recently released in redacted
    form by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

    Those reports generally found no evidence of "any intentional or willful
    attempts to violate or circumvent the requirements of the Act." On the
    other hand, "certain types of compliance incidents continue to occur,
    indicating the need for continued focus on measures to address underlying
    causes, including the potential need for additional measures."

    http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/sar-mar09.pdf

    http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/sar-dec09.pdf

    http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/sar-may10.pdf


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    Post by Cyrellys Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:55 am

    Weekly Enewsletter: An Executive Order You Should Know About
    Mar 30, 2012 Issues: Defense, Global War on Terror

    Dear Friend,

    With all that is going in Washington these days some things don’t make the news the way they should. Fourteen days ago President Obama issued an Executive Order that you should know about. This order gives an unprecedented level of authority to the President and the federal government to take over all the fundamental parts of our economy - in the name of national security - in times of national emergency.

    This means all of our water resources, construction services and materials (steel, concrete, etc.), our civil transportation system, food and health resources, our energy supplies including oil and natural gas – even farm equipment – can be taken over by the President and his cabinet secretaries. The Government can also draft U.S. citizens into the military and force U.S. citizens to fulfill "labor requirements" for the purposes of "national defense." There is not even any Congressional oversight, only briefings are required.

    By issuing this as an Executive Order the President puts the federal government above the law, which, in a democracy, is never supposed to happen.

    As President and Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, he has the Constitutional authority to issue executive orders. And while similar orders have been made before by presidents from Eisenhower and Reagan to Clinton and George Bush – it has never been done to this extent.

    It is still unclear why this order was signed now, and what the consequences are for our nation – especially during times of peace. This type of Martial Law imposes a government takeover on U.S. citizens that is typically reserved for national emergencies, not in a time of relative peace.

    I want you to know I am following this very closely. If you would like to read the order for yourself please click here


    Sincerely,



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    Quote from linked document:

    (c) "Farm equipment" means equipment, machinery, and repair parts manufactured for use on farms in connection with the production or preparation for market use of food resources.

    (d) "Fertilizer" means any product or combination of products that contain one or more of the elements nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium for use as a plant nutrient.

    (e) "Food resources" means all commodities and products, (simple, mixed, or compound), or complements to such commodities or products, that are capable of being ingested by either human beings or animals, irrespective of other uses to which such commodities or products may be put, at all stages of processing from the raw commodity to the products thereof in vendible form for human or animal consumption. "Food resources" also means potable water packaged in commercially marketable containers, all starches, sugars, vegetable and animal or marine fats and oils, seed, cotton, hemp, and flax fiber, but does not mean any such material after it loses its identity as an agricultural commodity or agricultural product.

    (f) "Food resource facilities" means plants, machinery, vehicles (including on farm), and other facilities required for the production, processing, distribution, and storage (including cold storage) of food resources, and for the domestic distribution of farm equipment and fertilizer (excluding transportation thereof).


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    Europe Has Three Days, Not Three Months, to Avoid 'Fiasco': Soros


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    June 25, 2012 12:05 PM EDT

    Multibillionaire financier George Soros said Monday Europe's leaders have three days to agree on how to fix the euro zone crisis ahead of this week's summit of world leaders -- a dramatically shorter timetable than the "three months' window" he said at the beginning of June that Europe's leaders had to fix their problems.

    "Unless that is resolved in the next three days, then I am afraid the summit could turn out to be a fiasco. That could actually be fatal," Soros said on CNBC Monday morning. Soros, who is quickly becoming an éminence grise on the topic of the euro zone financial crisis, was making an appearance following the publication of an editorial in the Financial Times, where he warned the negotiating stance of German chancellor Angela Merkel going into this summit "threatens to turn the June summit into a fiasco."

    In his Financial Times piece, Soros, the notable hedge fund manager -- who last month delivered an explanation of the euro zone crisis to an Italian economics conference that went viral -- suggested the best way to proceed involves some kind of German guarantee of the peripheral countries' debt "in return for Italy and Spain undertaking specified structural reforms." The idea is to have some austerity combined with a German safety net for the debt of weak economies, stabilizing the economic crisis in the Continent so as to hopefully spur growth. It is a pro-unification framework that "will be the prelude to the establishment of a full political union and the introduction of euro bonds," Soros notes in his article.

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    Blogger Aaron Walker Latest Swatting Victim
    June 25, 2012

    Another conservative blogger has become the victim of a "swatting," where a false report of a murder sends the police, armed and ready, to a victim's home. The victim this time was blogger Aaron Walker, who had just this morning won a legal victory against convicted felon and leftist activist Brett Kimberlin.
    Breitbart News contacted the Prince William County, Virginia police department to confirm the swatting. A dispatcher affirmed that police were called to the home of Mr. Walker based on a fraudulent 911 call. The individual did not take the call and could not disclose any details of the call's content but immediately confirmed that Mr. Walker had been swatted.

    The swatting occurred hours after Walker's hearing. A judge had modified a previous ruling that prohibited Mr. Walker from exercising his right to free speech.

    Walker told Breitbart News that he was home with his wife this evening at approximately 6:00pm when there was a "pretty insistent" knock at his door. Walker answered to find about six police cars in the street and two officers taking positions against the wall with M4 rifles. Since he was aware of the previous swattings of Patrick "Patterico" Frey, Erick Erickson, and Mike Stack, Mr. Walker asked the police if someone had called and claimed he had killed his wife, and police confirmed that that was the case.

    In a statement to Breitbart News, Walker said, "This is obviously very upsetting but my wife and I are fine. Whoever did this had the intent to put our lives in danger."

    Developing...


    Source: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/25/Blogger-Aaron-Walker-Swatted


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    A police officer from St. Louis calls in to the Alex Jones show on June 24th and gives a report

    "We have been told that in October we need to be prepared for an event that will require us to use air and ground support, in conjunction with the military here."

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    Volume 2012, Issue No. 99
    September 28, 2012

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    ** SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MOVES TO AMEND FISA AMENDMENTS ACT
    ** DNI ISSUES DIRECTIVE ON CIVIL LIBERTIES AND PRIVACY
    ** DNI DIRECTIVE PROMOTES USE OF "TEARLINE" DOCUMENTS
    ** REAGAN DIRECTIVE ON "PRE-EMPTIVE NEUTRALIZATION" OF TERRORISTS


    SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MOVES TO AMEND FISA AMENDMENTS ACT

    The Obama Administration proposal to renew the Foreign Intelligence
    Surveillance Act (FISA) Amendments Act for another five years would be
    amended to a three year extension, if the Senate Judiciary Committee has
    its way.

    Last June, the Senate Intelligence Committee approved -- without amendment
    -- the Administration's request for a five year renewal of the intelligence
    surveillance authorities of the FISA Amendments Act (FAA) that are due to
    expire at the end of this year. Shortly thereafter, the Senate Judiciary
    Committee asked that the measure be referred for its consideration as well.

    Last week, the Judiciary Committee reported its version of the bill and,
    unlike the Intelligence Committee, it insisted on amending the
    Administration proposal, over the opposition of Republican members of the
    Committee.

    http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2012_rpt/faa-sjc.html

    The amended version of the bill would not curtail the scope of existing
    surveillance authorities.

    However, the Committee amendment would extend those authorities until
    2015, rather than 2017 as the Administration asked. It would further
    require the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community "to conduct a
    comprehensive review of the implementation of the FISA Amendments Act, with
    particular regard to the protection of the privacy rights of United States
    persons." The Inspector General would also be required to publicly release
    an unclassified summary of the review. A similar proposal offered by
    Senators Wyden and Udall was rejected by the Senate Intelligence Committee.

    These modest amendments to the Administration proposal are necessary and
    appropriate, the Judiciary Committee said in its new report on the bill.

    "The alternative of a five-year extension [...] without any additional
    oversight or accountability requirements, and without the benefit of the
    complete work of the inspectors general, is ill-advised and inconsistent
    with this Committee's constitutional responsibility to provide vigorous and
    effective oversight."

    All Republican members of the Committee voted against the amended bill and
    urged that the Obama Administration's position be adopted by Congress.

    "Our oversight of the statute has found no evidence that it has been
    intentionally misused or that more oversight is needed," the Republicans
    wrote in a minority statement appended to the report. "The combination of
    the statutory limitations on collection, targeting and minimization
    procedures and guidelines, and compliance oversight by the Administration
    and Congress, ensure that the rights of U.S. persons are sufficiently
    protected when their communications are incidentally collected in the
    course of targeting non-U.S. persons located abroad."

    Yet such oversight has failed in the past, the Committee report noted. In
    its narrative account of the background to the bill, the Committee majority
    recalled that the post-9/11 surveillance program began outside the
    framework of the law and without proper congressional notification or
    approval.

    "This warrantless surveillance was conducted outside the scope of FISA,
    without any approval by the FISA court, and without the full knowledge or
    consent of Congress," the Committee report noted. "The public first became
    aware of the existence of this warrantless surveillance program in December
    2005 through a report in the New York Times."

    Although the Judiciary Committee bill, as amended, is inconsistent with
    the version reported out of the Senate Intelligence Committee, the report
    noted that the amended bill was supported by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the
    chair of the Intelligence Committee, which should presumably increase the
    likelihood of its approval by the full Senate. If approved, the amended
    bill would then have to be reconciled with the "clean," unamended extension
    that was approved by the House.


    DNI ISSUES DIRECTIVE ON CIVIL LIBERTIES AND PRIVACY

    The Director of National Intelligence "is committed to protecting civil
    liberties and privacy, which are foundational principles of our Nation's
    democratic society, preserved in the Constitution of the United States, and
    guaranteed in Federal law."

    So states a new Intelligence Community Directive on Civil Liberties and
    Privacy, signed by DNI James R. Clapper on August 31, 2012.

    http://www.fas.org/irp/dni/icd/icd-107.pdf

    Beyond affirming the value of civil liberties, the new directive -- ICD
    107 -- also directs the establishment of oversight mechanisms and of
    procedures for redress of alleged violations.

    The DNI directive does not include definitions of privacy or civil
    liberties, and its practical meaning is somewhat elusive.

    "Intelligence activities shall be conducted in a manner that protects
    civil liberties and privacy," the directive states. But that seemingly
    categorical statement is rendered ambiguous by the very next sentence.

    "The IC shall protect civil liberties and privacy in a manner that enables
    proper intelligence integration and information sharing and safeguarding."


    DNI DIRECTIVE PROMOTES USE OF "TEARLINE" DOCUMENTS

    In order to promote improved information sharing, the Director of National
    Intellingence told agencies to make use of "tearlines." This refers to the
    practice of segregating and withholding the most sensitive portions of a
    document, allowing the remainder to be "torn off," literally or
    figuratively, and widely disseminated.

    "Tearlines are portions of an intelligence report or product that provide
    the substance of a more highly classified or controlled report without
    identifying sensitive sources, methods, or other operational information,"
    a new DNI directive states. "Tearlines release classified intelligence
    information with less restrictive dissemination controls, and, when
    possible, at a lower classification."

    "Tearlines shall be written for the broadest possible readership in
    accordance with established information sharing policies, and requirements
    in law and policy to protect intelligence sources and methods."

    See "Tearline Production and Dissemination," Intelligence Community
    Directive 209, September 6, 2012:

    http://www.fas.org/irp/dni/icd/icd-209.pdf

    In the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, Congress
    mandated that "the President shall... issue guidelines... to ensure that
    information is provided in its most shareable form, such as by using
    tearlines to separate out data from the sources and methods by which the
    data are obtained" (section 1016(d)(1)).

    Although the tearline approach also lends itself to public dissemination
    of national security documents, with particularly material removed, the new
    intelligence directive does not explicitly extend to sharing information
    with the public.


    REAGAN DIRECTIVE ON "PRE-EMPTIVE NEUTRALIZATION" OF TERRORISTS

    In 1984, President Reagan ordered the Director of Central Intelligence to
    develop "capabilities for the pre-emptive neutralization of anti-American
    terrorist groups which plan, support, or conduct hostile terrorist acts
    against U.S. citizens, interests, and property overseas."

    The President further ordered the DCI to "develop a clandestine service
    capability, using all lawful means, for effective response overseas against
    terrorist acts commmitted against U.S. citizens, facilities, or interests."

    Those instructions were contained in National Security Decision Directive
    138, "Combatting Terrorism," which was issued on April 3, 1984.

    http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nsdd/nsdd-138.pdf

    A few weeks earlier, Hezbollah forces in Lebanon had kidnapped William
    Buckley, the CIA station chief in Beirut.

    NSDD 138 remained classified for many years and was not fully declassified
    until two years into the Obama Administration.


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    Volume 2012, Issue No. 110
    October 24, 2012

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    ** PRIVACY & CIVIL LIBERTIES OVERSIGHT BOARD INVITES PUBLIC INPUT
    ** FEDERAL SUPPORT FOR ACADEMIC RESEARCH, AND MORE FROM CRS


    PRIVACY & CIVIL LIBERTIES OVERSIGHT BOARD INVITES PUBLIC INPUT

    The long-dormant Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB)
    announced that it will hold its first public meeting next week and it
    invited members of the public to provide input to help shape the Board's
    near-term agenda.

    "In anticipation of setting the agenda of issues on which the Board will
    focus its attention, the Board would welcome the views of nongovernmental
    organizations and members of the public," stated a notice in the October 23
    Federal Register.

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2012/10/pclob.html

    The PCLOB was created in response to a recommendation of the 9/11
    Commission that "there should be a board within the executive branch to
    oversee... the commitment the government makes to defend our civil
    liberties."

    By statute, the PCLOB is mandated to "(1) analyze and review actions the
    executive branch takes to protect the Nation from terrorism, ensuring that
    the need for such actions is balanced with the need to protect privacy and
    civil liberties; and (2) ensure that liberty concerns are appropriately
    considered in the development and implementation of laws, regulations, and
    policies related to efforts to protect the Nation against terrorism."

    In response to the announcement of next week's meeting, we wrote in to
    propose that the PCLOB should review the government's problematic use of
    Section 215 of the USA Patriot Act. "The use of Section 215, the so-called
    'business records' provision, is the subject of intense and unresolved
    controversy that warrants the Board's attention," we suggested.

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2012/10/pclob-let.pdf

    Senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall have stated that "most Americans would
    be stunned to learn the details of how these secret court opinions have
    interpreted section 215 of the Patriot Act." If so, the members of the
    PCLOB can be stunned on behalf of most Americans by virtue of the security
    clearances and right of access that they possess.

    For background on the origins and development of the PCLOB, see "Privacy
    and Civil Liberties Oversight Board: New Independent Agency Status,"
    Congressional Research Service, August 27, 2012:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34385.pdf


    FEDERAL SUPPORT FOR ACADEMIC RESEARCH, AND MORE FROM CRS

    Newly updated reports from the Congressional Research Service that
    Congress has not made publicly available include the following.

    Federal Support for Academic Research, October 18, 2012:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41895.pdf

    Unfunded Mandates Reform Act: History, Impact, and Issues, October 22,
    2012:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R40957.pdf

    Terrorism and Transnational Crime: Foreign Policy Issues for Congress,
    October 19, 2012:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/terror/R41004.pdf

    Managing the Nuclear Fuel Cycle: Policy Implications of Expanding Global
    Access to Nuclear Power, October 19, 2012:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/RL34234.pdf

    U.S. Sanctions on Burma, October 19, 2012:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R41336.pdf

    Burma's Political Prisoners and U.S. Sanctions, October 19, 2012:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R42363.pdf

    Navy DDG-51 and DDG-1000 Destroyer Programs: Background and Issues for
    Congress, October 18, 2012:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RL32109.pdf

    Navy Ohio Replacement (SSBN[X]) Ballistic Missile Submarine Program:
    Background and Issues for Congress, October 18, 2012:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/R41129.pdf

    Navy Shipboard Lasers for Surface, Air, and Missile Defense: Background
    and Issues for Congress, October 19, 2012:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/R41526.pdf

    Navy Irregular Warfare and Counterterrorism Operations: Background and
    Issues for Congress, October 18, 2012:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RS22373.pdf


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    Important because: understanding OathKeeping matters to everyone even those who have not taken the Oath.

    Why Denny Rehberg deserves to be “Conrad Burned” today

    by Stewart Rhodes, Former Ron Paul Staffer and Founder of Oath Keepers

    Today, on election day, Denny Rehberg deserves to go down in flames just like Conrad Burns did in 2006. Conrad Burns lost to Tester precisely because he lost the liberty vote in Montana. And Burns lost the liberty vote because he had abandoned the Constitution and violated his oath by voting for unconstitutional laws, such as the Patriot Act.

    Even GOP propagandists like Ed Berry acknowledge that the liberty movement killed Conrad Burns’ political career, with 10,000 Montanan’s choosing to instead vote for the Libertarian candidate, which is a larger number of votes than the number by which Tester beat Burns. The Montana liberty movement simply refused to vote for an oath breaker – they withdrew their consent. And without them, Burns was burnt.

    Today, the very same thing is likely to happen to Denny Rehberg – and he deserves it. He deserves to be “Conrad Burned.” Like Conrad Burns, Rehberg is an oath breaker who has abandoned the Constitution by repeatedly and willfully voting for some of the most dangerous and spectacularly unconstitutional laws to ever be passed in Congress during the short life of this Republic. Rehberg voted for both the Patriot Act, and for the NDAA, among many others.

    The NDAA of 2012 (Sections 1021 and 1022) in particular is a deal breaker. It is intolerable. It is the single most dangerous law in American history and is the death knell of this Republic if it is not stopped. Anyone who would strip you of your right to jury trial, for which your forefathers bled and died, is a traitor and an enemy of this Republic. Anyone who would subject you and your children to arbitrary imprisonment, in a military brig, or to military trial, or to rendition to ANY foreign nation or ANY foreign entity, or who thinks the President has a legitimate power to just order you killed by a Predator drone if HE thinks you are a terrorist – anyone who supports that government supremacist view, is a traitor and a modern Tory. He is your enemy.

    Rehberg and Tester both hold that view, and both voted for the NDAA. I don’t give a flying *&@#% if Rehberg is supposedly “not as bad as Tester.” He supports the destruction of the Bill of Rights in the name of fighting terrorism. Both of them are my enemy. Both are enemies of the American Revolution and all that came from it.

    And Rehberg is not a man who just made a mistake, and is sorry. No, he is defiant in his defense of his oath breaking vote for the NDAA. After his speech at the Lincoln Dinner in Kalispell, I walked up to Rehberg and asked him to explain his vote for the NDAA, which authorizes military detention of Americans. He didn’t try to explain his vote, or try to tell me it didn’t do what I thought it did, or try to defend why he thinks that is OK. He just said “you just don’t support the troops. Shame on you!” Yeh, right Denny. That’s it. I’m a disabled Army Airborne veteran who nearly died twice while serving my country, and the founder of a national organization made up of current serving military and veterans, but I just don’t support the troops. He said that to me twice during our short conversation. It was no off the cuff remark. Obviously it was some talking point his staff had cooked up for him to use as a weapon against anyone who publicly challenged him over his vote for the NDAA. Typical neocon. If you dare oppose anything they do in the name of national security or war, they accuse you of not supporting the troops.

    The man is an unrepentant oath breaker who has, so far, gotten away with it. And the reason he has gotten away with it has been the “lesser of two evils” con game. Being told that you have “no choice” but to vote for oath breaker A or oath breaker B is like being given a false choice between voting for Joseph Stalin or Adolph Hitler, with so-called conservatives urging you to vote for the fascist to keep the communist out of office. “Vote for Hitler or Stalin will win!” I won’t do it. No sir. I will fight them both, or either one.

    My oath was not “I will support and defend the Republican Party.” Nor was it “I will support and defend the Constitution by voting for the lesser of two evil oath breakers who both violate it.” My oath was to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic, and of whatever party. I am an American first, not a Republican first. Political parties are like a cancer that is now killing the host. Republicans, with all too few exceptions, are loyal to party first, not country first, and certainly not the Constitution first, just as Democrats, with few exception, are loyal to their party first, before their country.

    This Republic is on the verge of destruction precisely because Republicans have chosen the lesser of two evils (the lesser of two oath breakers) in each election, swallowing principle and pulling the lever for a demonstrated oath breaker each and every time just to try and keep a Democrat from winning. When you take a slightly reduced dose of poison, say 80% poison instead of 100%, you are still poisoning yourself, and you will still die. This Republic has been subjected to a reduced dose of poison over and over, for decades, and is now about to die. And yet, the GOP bigwigs offer us yet another dose of slightly reduced poison and the great majority of the Republican rank and file are all too happy to open wide and swallow it down. It’s time to take a stand, and say NO MORE!

    I challenge anyone to explain why a vote for Rehberg is not a violation of your oath, now that it is clear he supports the application of the laws of war on Americans, and supports military detention and military trial rather than trial by jury, and now that it is clear that he is unrepentant and will continue to do so. You vote for an oath breaker, you become one. Either stand for all of the Constitution, all of the time, against anyone of any party, or stop pretending, renounce your oath, burn your pocket Constitution, and then just openly join the ranks of the oath breakers.

    I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul by swearing allegiance to one whose character is that of a sottish, stupid, stubborn, worthless, brutish man. I conceive likewise a horrid idea in receiving mercy from a being, who at the last day shall be shrieking to the rocks and mountains to cover him, and fleeing with terror from the orphan, the widow, and the slain of America…. ~ Thomas Paine

    Likewise here. Don’t make a whore of your soul by electing and empowering a stottish, stupid, stubborn, worthless, brutish man who has already violated all that our forefathers fought to win and preserve, by violating our Bill of Rights. It is now very clear that the small window we had for a political solution at the national level has been slammed shut by the GOP leadership by forcing on us yet another oath breaker. Last time it was John McCain – who went on to author Section 1021 of the NDAA which is a declaration of war on the American people. Now it is Romney, who also supports it. As did Pual Ryan, Allan West, Rubio, and a bunch of other “Tea Party” freshmen, right along with Rehberg. The GOP has utterly failed to field true constitutionalists. It has turned its back on the Constitution and thrown away a chance to stop the destruction of our Republic. Now all we have left is nullification and resistance at the state level.

    Here in Montana, we need to clean house and sweep our own porch clean by rooting out the oath breaking neoconservatives who are so deeply entrenched in power. Let’s start with Rehberg. Let’s root him out. But wouldn’t that mean that Tester wins again? Yes, it does. Just like back in 2007, when we rooted out Conrad Burns. After that defeat, the Montana GOP should have caught a clue. To guarantee a win this time around, all they had to do is field someone who didn’t vote for the same crap that Conrad Burns had voted for. Duh! As Ed Berry acknowledges, over on Polymontana, if the liberty movement votes for the GOP candidates, they have the election in the bag. Rehberg, Hill, etc. will win if all liberty movement people vote for them. But if the liberty movement doesn’t support them, then they will lose.

    To win the Senate seat all the Montana GOP needed to do is run a candidate who had not voted for the Patriot Act and the NDAA, and who pledged to vote against such obvious and blatant violations of the Bill of Rights. Our votes were theirs if they just ran someone who wouldn’t make us throw up in the voting booth. They could have done it, and easily won, but once again, they blew it. Our votes were theirs to lose, and they lost them by yet again running a demonstrated oath breaker. And now they tell us that we need to set aside our revulsion for Rehberg, set aside our principles, and vote for Rehberg to stop Tester.

    If you do that – if you set aside your constitutional and liberty principles and vote for a demonstrated constitutional violator, you will just be telling the Montana GOP leadership that they can do as they please, and that they don’t need to run true constitutionalists to win. And you will be telling the GOP faithful that they can continue to vote neocon and still win elections. That is the wrong message to send. The message should instead be that unless, and until, the Montana GOP faithful root out the neocons who are killing their party, they will lose. Election after election, they will lose, until they clean house and return to the Constitution.

    Rather than the neocons accepting the blame for losing the Senate seat to Tester in the first place, and acknowledging their transgressions and repenting of their sins, they are doubling down and once again running an oath breaking traitor, while telling us that if Tester is reelected it is our fault. What a joke. The fault lies with a party that has largely abandoned our Constitution, and until the GOP returns to it, and actually defends it, it deserve to lose, and will lose.

    Once Rehberg is entrenched as an incumbent in the Senate, how will you ever get rid of him? In a primary? Not likely. We just tried that, and failed because the GOP faithful are willing to vote for an oath breaker who they think can defeat the Democrat. That is all they seem to care about. If you help Rehberg win, you will just be telling them they are correct, and that running an oath breaker is a winning strategy. That will make it all the harder to ever reform the Montana GOP.

    Once Rehberg is in the Senate, the only way to get rid of him would be to withdraw your consent in some future election, just like you did with Conrad Burns, and let the Democrat win. And then you would still have to try and defeat the Democrat by once again trying to convince the GOP faithful to finally get behind a real constitutionalist to run against the Democrat, and that would be all the harder after they had had a successful election cycle running an oath breaker for U.S. Senate.

    Why kick the can down the road and have to go through all of that all over again? We are in the middle of this fight for the heart and soul of the Montana GOP (and for the heart and soul of this Republic) right now. So let’s get it over with now. Root out Denny Rehberg, and then run a real constitutionalist against Tester in the next election and root Tester out too.

    We did the right thing in 2006 by rooting out Conrad Burns. His political career was done. If the GOP had come to their senses and run a constitutionalist against Tester, we could have rooted Tester out this year and finally Montana would have a Senator who was not an oath breaker.

    The GOP should have learned their lesson, but apparently need to have another trip to the wood shed. Let’s give it to them. Let’s root out Denny Rehberg and end his political career. He is seen as a “party leader” here in Montana, just as Burns was. As with Burns, he needs to go. We need to root him out as part of our battle to root the neocons out of the Montana GOP.

    And then let’s run a real constitutionalist against Tester next election, and finally root him out.

    The neocons have joined with the Marxists on the left and are placing this nation on a short track to having to fight another bloody revolution/civil war. The only way to possibly pull us back from the brink is to purge all oath breakers out of office and to clean up our own state. And even if we do that, we may still have to fight. But at least we will go into battle with a clear conscience and the knowledge that we did not give our consent and support to the destruction of our own Republic.

    When I confronted Rehberg at the Lincoln Dinner in Kalispell, I told him that he would go the same way that Conrad Burns did – that because of his vote for the NDAA, constitutionalists and liberty movement people in Montana would not support him and he would be “Conrad Burned.” Let’s make it so. Withdraw your consent. Take a stand. Send Rehberg back to his fake ranch where he can play cowboy. “Conrad Burn”him today.

    Stewart Rhodes

    PS- the views above are my own only, as an individual American, and not in my capacity as President of Oath Keepers. I would like to personally thank Ed Berry for inspiring me to write this, at the 11th hour. It was his incessant, ankle biting, petty attacks against me and Chuck Baldwin, and his revolting cheer leading for oath breaking GOP traitors that reminded me of my obligation speak out today. Thanks Ed! I was going to just sit this one out, and give the Montana GOP faithful some “tough love” after the election by trying to point out why they lost, in the hopes of talking some sense into them, but you have prompted me to instead send this message out to thousands of Montanans in the liberty movement today to do my small part in purging the neocons out of Montana politics. If Rehberg loses, and I am given any small part of the credit for his loss, then I wish to share that credit with you, since you prompted me to write this.

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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:42 pm

    If you have been following the over thirty plus states via petitions on whitehouse.gov for the president to consider states to peacefully secede from the union then this might interest you too.

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Cwx2h7fGNig [/youtube]

    The petition in question that is requesting any citizen who signs the other petitions for consideration of secession to be stripped of citizenship and deported has been pulled from the whitehouse.gov website as it is no longer available at the original link. Apparently it made sense that such a petition was inappropriate and those secession petitions were within the rights of citizens per the Constitution. It really isn't an outdated document.


    *Edit to add: and now the video has been pulled by the owner. Lol.

    Well I watched the video several times and it was the petition site at whitehouse.gov and it looked just like this template with the petition requesting the stripping of citizenship: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-montana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/l76dWhwN

    The above link by the way is one of the state secession petitions the citizenship stripping petition was complaing about. At the time of this posting it has 10,400 electronic signatures and a few hours ago Texas another state had over 40,000. I heard that yesterday evening TX surpassed the 25,000 minimum for consideration. And this is just in their first couple of days of posting. They have till approx Dec 10th of this year 2012. now times that by roughly 30 or so states that have joined the vote of no confidence bandwagon and...

    Yeah that means quite a few people across the nation are tired of the national security state corruption, endless wars, demonizing of the citizenry, and the dismantling of the nation's functionability. What can one say... states petition message is "Hey Guys time to clean up the act. Enough is Enough!"





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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:17 am

    Report of Massive Object Headed for Us
    http://beforeitsnews.com/2012/2012/12/massive-object-headed-straight-for-earth-google-nibiru-planet-x-etc-etc-2440920.html

    UPDATED UPDATE – Massive Object Headed Straight For Earth? Google: Nibiru, Planet X etc etc
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    [youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ioc7iT5ZK0U [/youtube]

    “The English astroastronomer John Walson who has made some incredible videos using his Meade LX200 custom telescope posted a video yesterday saying that on the 17th he is going to post a video that will “shock the world…”

    ,…in the meantime ==

    [youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dnkcSLs8364 [/youtube]


    .Hiuge objects filmed in space by John L. Walson


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    Vatican Calls for the Establishment of World Government and a New World Order- Pope Benedict XVI, has called for the establishment of World Government and a New World Order.

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    Post by Jake Reason Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:21 am

    Benjamin Fulford posted something over the holidays that might be nice, if true. Que Sara Sara

    Quote December 30, 2012

    Reader response to December 24, 2012 posting:
    The New World Order has been defeated but the Old World Order is still fighting

    RE: NWO defeated B.S.

    > You state that the NWO has been defeated. If this is the case, why
    > then is is the Federal Reserve still producing worthless paper. Cities
    > being sprayed with chemtrail poison. Obama trying to steal our
    > firearms. FEMA camps still open and waiting to receive. Flouride in
    > our water and the list goes on..
    > You never respond to any of my questions. Why is that? Do you not have
    > the answers? Or is it because I am not on your account? Ben, the only
    > thing I want is the truth and to know that there is HOPE for mankind.
    > I am tired of the Kabal crushing our hope and dreams of a better
    > future. Im tired of secrets and disinformation. Im tired of a$$holes
    > trying to make a dollar off the fear of the people. If you have time
    > to add a person to your bank account, you have time to respond to
    > these questions.

    Thanks for your critical feedback. The New Wolrd Order as I define it was a Nazi cabal that was trying to start World War 3 in order to set up a totalitarian one-world government.
    My understanding is that they have been defeated and that plans for WW3 have been stopped. My contacts in the pentagon and the agencies make it very clear they will disobey any orders to attack American citizens or put them in concentration camps.
    That does not mean that all is well, however, because the Old World Order faction the NWO was fighting is still in power in many countries, notably the US. That is why we are now moving to phase two of our two-pronged campaign against the fascist forces. That is all I can say right now because we do not want to tip our hand.
    Also, I would like point out that I am sick and tired of critics like you who scold us for not doing any more than we are (at the very real risk to our lives) while you sit at home and do nothing but be an arm-chair quarterback. If you feel impatient, start taking direct, personal action.
    In any case it is not over until it is over but my understanding is that huge funds will soon be made available to finance a campaign to end poverty and stop environmental destruction.


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    Post by Admin Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:56 pm

    http://ncrenegade.com/editorial/a-time-to-kill/

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    Coup d’etat in America – Evidence Mounts

    http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/coup-detat-in-america-evidence-mounts/33498/

    Posted on January 31, 2013 by Paraclete
    Conservative News and Views – by TERRY A. HURLBUT

    Last year my fellow editor warnedof a coup d’état in America. In case any reader has any doubt, Barack Obama and his allies have removed all doubt in the last several weeks. And in the process have made America ripe for rebellion. But if the right people stand up and lead, the results need not be as chaotic as one might suppose.

    Coup d’état, Exhibit A: The Newtown Incident

    The Newtown Incident needs no further description. Or does it? Did Adam Lanza steal three weapons, and use them at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, all by his lonesome? Dwight Kehoe at TPATH pointed out that the mainstream media first reported one thing, then changed their story. They first said Lanza might have had a Bushmaster AR-15 with him at the school, but left it in his automobile. Then they started saying something radically different, as if they had said it all along. One can imagine Winston Smith at the Ministry (Department?) of Truth rushing out a memo to them and obligingly destroying old copy. Except that it’s too late. Someone cobbled together some original footage and uploaded it to YouTube. You can play it below. (To any Department of Truth wannabes: don’t even think you can quash it now. The resistance, when it forms, will have copies.)

    Speaking of media accountability: MSNBC charged yesterday that some heartless viewers “heckled” the father of one of the pupils who died at Sandy Hook, after he had the temerity to ask “who in this room needs an assault weapon.” The only problem was: he asked the question, and they answered him. (And did everyone miss the other father of a victim, who said guns were not the problem?)

    Today, no one doubts that twenty pupils and eight adults died that day. What people dowonder about is: Did Adam Lanza act alone? Or did he have help? Or not so much help, as “handlers” who shot him, “threw down” their weapons next to his body, and vanished into the woods? Play the third embedded video. Listen carefully to the back-and-forth on the radio, beginning at the 3:13 mark. Police clearly describe at least two shooters. Not satisfied? Play the fourth video, which is the source of the third.

    How is this relevant? Well, when you’re planning a coup d’état, and want popular support for it, you don’t wait for that support to “just happen.” You drum it up. And sometimes, if one episode does not “convince” the people, maybe several will. Why, then, do we now see at least one such gunfire episode a week beginning about a month after the Newtown Incident? Coincidence? Ian Fleming said this about coincidence:

    Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, and the third time it’s enemy action.

    Coup Exhibit B: Gun Control Redux



    Last week, Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) released her proposed “assault weapons ban” to the public. Or to be more specific, gun rights journalist David Codrea got the text and published it to Scribd.com; you may read it below.

    Two problems. First, the Feinstein bill exemptsgovernment officials and their bodyguards. That’s special pleading. Second, the Feinstein bill includes handguns and shotguns. Everyone who cared to know, knew this was coming. You should also remember that in 1995, Feinstein said what she really thought of the idea ofanyone, except a law-enforcement officer or an active-duty military member, having a gun:

    If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States, for an outright ban, picking up [every gun]… Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in.

    Except that she won’t turn hers in. Nor will New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s bodyguards. Not that they should. But protection of their persons is not a special privilege, available to them alone.

    If you’re planning a coup d’état, it helps if the people have no guns and cannot resist you.

    Coup Exhibit C: DHS Buys Ammunition

    Why is the Department of Homeland Security buying millions, even billions, of rounds of ammunition? The news of these massive bullet buys does not come only from “the usual suspects.” This article, going back to September 19, 2012, came from Arutz-7. From Israel. Arutz-7 pointed out a few interesting items:

    Many of these rounds are hollow-point rounds. They expand on impact.
    Many other of these rounds can go through walls.
    The Social Security Administration also bought 174,000 rounds. Why?
    The military started preparing for riots in the streets.
    And then there’s this piece in Business Insider. This article discusses a continued pattern of ammo buys by DHS and other agencies. It also discusses whether the agents are shooting up all those rounds in training. Two things:

    Training for all these agents would need 15 to 20 million rounds a year. DHS is buying many more rounds than that.
    What’s happening to the spent brass? The spent brass usually goes back to the ammo maker for recycling and re-use. Not this time. Yes, the Army is destroying some of that brass (though Congress told them to stop doing that). But not all of it. Not this many rounds. Not by a long shot (pun intended).
    Again, if you’re planning a coup d’état, you need to be ready to shoot a lot of people.

    And in case you don’t get that point, DHS is buying 7,000 of the same weapons they don’t want the people to have. Hypocrisy? Worse than that. It’s special pleading:

    Do as I say, not as I do.

    Or, put another way:

    Rank has its privileges.

    Rank. The Constitution does not recognize such rank. But the politicians pushing gun control clearly stand on their own rank. If they’re planning a coup, you know why.

    Coup Exhibit D: Loose Talk of Scrapping the Constitution

    A law professor should know better. But Georgetown University Law Professor Louis M. Seidman actually said to abolish the Constitution. (Here is the source.) That, of course, would force us to re-argue the case for our rights. Well, obviously if you’re planning a coup d’état, you want to make sure that the people have no rights, except those you grant. In other words, the people’s rights are whatever you say they are, any time you say it.

    Mark Levin was afraid of a Supreme Court being the sole arbiters of the Constitution. Professor Seidman would have people get used to one man making that decision.

    Coup Exhibit E: Fomenting Trouble

    Actor Stephen Boyd, as Marcus Valerius Messala, new Tribune and Commander of the Garrison of Jerusalem (Ben-Hur, MGM, 1959), almost dismissively tells his predecessor:

    There’s always some rabble-rouser stirring up trouble.

    Well, how if the government itself were stirring up trouble? The Rev. William Owens, Jr.so accuses. He said it on the Capitol steps yesterday, in answer to the 23 executive orders (for that is what de facto President Obama called them, no matter what semantic distinction anyone might care to make) that Barack Obama signed.

    Oh, what a perfect excuse! When riots break out, people cry out for someone to restore order. And the government is then ready, with its billions of rounds of ammunition, and armed with the same weapons they took from the people. That’s the perfect recipe for a coup d’état.

    And what is a coup d’état? It’s what happens when a group of people take over one part of the government from within, then use that part to destroy the other parts and rule alone.

    Can anyone stop it?

    Yes. And what’s more, the group of people best qualified to stop it, are starting to wake up to the danger. Who are these people? Your local sheriff – if he fully knows his duty under the Constitution, and at common law.

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona, signaled his understanding. He flatly refuses to confiscate guns. And if he has to, he will go to war with any federal agency who tries to take guns away from his fellow lawful residents.

    Twenty-eight of twenty-nine sheriffs in Utah protested Obama’s executive orders and likewise vowed to stand on the Constitution.

    These are only some of the 225 sheriffs who have taken a similar stand. They belong to the new Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers’ Association that Richard Mack, former Sheriff of Graham County, Arizona (and plaintiff in Printz v. US) founded. Here is the latest list. It includes Sheriff Donald Smith of Putnam County, New York – the same county that refused to cooperate with The Journal News when they were publishing gun owners’ names and addresses. (They have since taken their map down and now admitted that forty percent of the names and addresses shouldn’t have been on it!)

    So if the federal government tries a coup d’état against the Constitution, they will have these 225 sheriffs to deal with. And anyone else who has guns and refuses to hand them over.

    http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2013/01/30/news/coup-detat-in-america-evidence-mounts/

    13 Responses to Coup d’etat in America – Evidence Mounts

    Jay says:
    January 31, 2013 at 8:34 pm
    The coup de tat happened in 1963, you must have missed it.
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    SamAdams says:
    January 31, 2013 at 8:38 pm
    China trades US paper for US real assets as FED destroys dollar for eventual economic collapse. China calls for disarm of US. False flag Sandy to prepare transition. S. Border radar removed to allow low altitude FF. Can kicked by homeland as long as possible. Big insiders move to gold, move to other country. Watch gun control schedule, movie release or lack thereof to approximate time to end.
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    Shalome says:
    January 31, 2013 at 11:14 pm
    I is most probable that most of the sheriffs taking these oaths — is just political window dressing !
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    r dondero sr says:
    February 1, 2013 at 3:04 am
    pray for your country
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    Johnny says:
    February 1, 2013 at 3:49 am
    So, it’s now declared that the people can be spied upon, detained indefinitely and even killed with zero judicial process, the wealthy elite are given complete immunity from all laws, while we are more strictly held to more and more laws….
    The coup happened man, it’s done-
    It can’t be overcome with little chaos, it’s going to be as chaotic as your worst imagination, and thats because it’s not just about the government. It’s our corporate elite, all mainstream media and all banking-
    To repair the system, you must first tear them all down, and so yes, things will get much, much worse, at first, there’s no way to avoid that.
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    Miguel Grande says:
    February 1, 2013 at 6:24 am
    Jay was right, the coup was staged in Nov. 1963. It has not been the same since.
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    flek says:
    February 1, 2013 at 6:45 am
    I disagree. Lincoln and the War of Northern Aggression changed everything.

    -flek
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    Bubz says:
    February 3, 2013 at 6:56 am
    I agree, it did start with Lincoln, our first true tyrant and his desire to “hold the country together” even if it meant he had to rip it apart. His war against the southern states is where it all started.That was a war of attrition to whittle away states rights. That is the true history of this country. We have been lied to for so long we ALL live in a different reality. Some of us that see the truth have a grip on the true CORE reality, everyone else lives in an entertainment, drug and alcohol induced dream state. At least that’s how I see it!
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    rhumstruck says:
    February 1, 2013 at 6:41 am
    You people are just waking up I can see. None of this is news to regulars here. So, forget about praying (thats waiting for a ship that never comes) and get to prepping. This is going to go hot anyday now and supply lines are being disrupted already. In fact, it may be too late.
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    Anton Hackl says:
    February 1, 2013 at 5:00 pm
    Agreed sir.

    I recommend every patriot, select their “extracurricular objectives” …NOW!!!!!!
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    Nam Marine says:
    February 3, 2013 at 8:23 am
    NOW is the time for our own Coup! MOLON LABE !
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    Douglas says:
    February 3, 2013 at 10:17 am
    Please read: “The Way home or face The Fire”.
    http://jahtruth.net/wayad.htm

    Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the “I AM” Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
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    Edwitness says:
    February 3, 2013 at 12:41 pm
    There is not one shred of a doubt that troubless times are upon us. Jesus told us that “when you see these things BEGIN to come to pass, look up , for your redemption draws near”. Of course we should pray to the one who made us! We need wisdom. For the road ahead is full of the unknown. But, He knows exactly what we will need before we know we need it. As our founders said,”the guidance of divine providence”. ‘Tis a glorious time to be a christian. Get in the boat before it is too late.
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    Post by Admin Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:22 pm

    The MOTHER of ALL Conspiracies

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    In August of 2009, BP entered into a partnership with Martek Biosciences to study the use of algae to convert sugar into biodiesel. Eight months later, BP’s and Transocean’s “negligence” led to the oil spill which gravely impacted the food chain, poisoned all life forms in the Gulf and dealt an eventual death blow to the Gulf by creating a massive series of dead zones where nothing will grow, except for algae, for generations to come.

    Source: http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/03/16/the-mother-of-all-conspiracies-pt-7/

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    V'S COMMENTS ON CYPRUS BURNING AND WHAT LIES AHEAD

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    To clarify this I will put it to you this way: Cyprus for all intents and purposes is a self contained economy, an island separate from main land Europe thus making it perfect to implement harsh capital controls like the proposed levies on bank accounts. The people of Cyprus can not escape as there is no adjacent border close to it. Except Turkey which is 47 miles away and a source of contention amongst the Cypriot Grecian majority. As I said the perfect petri dish.

    Source: http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=323


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    DHS insider update: “It has begun”

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    According to the most recent information provided to me from my source within the Department of Homeland Security known as “Rosebud,” the final preparations are being made to deploy heavily armed federalized forces onto the streets of America. They will be deployed under the pretext of “restoring and maintaining order from the chaos brought about by the economic collapse,” adding that “many will demand and embrace their deployment on the streets of America. They will get what they ask for, and more.“

    Much like the security theater we have seen following the attacks of 9/11, we will be subjected to the jack-booted control of a federal army whose allegiance is not to the American people, but to the very architects of the chaos.

    “This is the reason that drones are flying over U.S. cities and farmland, and gun control legislation is on the fast track for complete implementation,” stated this source. “How can people look at the situation in Cyprus and not think it won’t happen here? It will, and the blowback will be unlike this country has ever seen. Surveillance, disarming the public, and conditioning the people to believe it’s for their own safety is and has been part of the plan all along. Anyone owing a gun will be demonized and described as contributing to the problem.”

    “What happens when the middle class loses much of their wealth, or it is confiscated, by the stroke of a pen or a keyboard? What will the stores look like when people, unprepared due to the damn lies of the corporate media and the shills for the ruling elite, run to empty out everything they can get their hands on as the world, as they know it, collapses around them?”

    It was during my most recent contact with my source yesterday that he admitted that the situation will be blamed not on the bankers and the elected leaders who are raping us of our wealth and buying power, but on “right-wing, gun-toting Conservative ‘militia’ groups who believe that the situation is orchestrated.” And, of course, it is orchestrated.

    “There is no Republican-Democrat argument to be made anymore. It’s all political theater to keep the majority of the masses occupied while the true enemy has already captured both parties,” he added. “They are all in on it, either knowingly or unwittingly, the takeover, that is. And it’s getting harder to believe that there are any who are unwitting accomplices at this point.”

    “When the curtain is pulled back to reveal the true agenda of a single digital world currency, the people who have been yelling the loudest about such ‘conspiracy theories’ will be specifically singled out and demonized. They will be blamed for causing the panic we will see, and of course, dealt with by the army we asked for, accepted and even tolerated.”

    Anyone who still believes that the information provided by this insider is “doom porn” or some self-created fantasy need to look at the events taking place in Cyprus. It’s coming to America. It has already begun.


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    Post by Admin Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:40 pm

    I'm hearing the run up to an event on US soil...precipitated by foreign agitation?

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    THEY ARE GEARING UP FOR SOMETHING BIG--His exact words were, 'They are shipping some serious s*** over there'

    I just spoke with a close associate who has been working for the last three years at Barksdale AFB, on various construction projects. Likely, you will not remember that I wrote you about 6 weeks ago to ask for prayers for people in that area. This man is just a guy...a construction worker...been there all his life...salt of the earth kind of guy. In his words..."I am just a working man...doing the best I can do."

    To let you know, I have cautioned him, and literally begged him to leave that area...but he wants to hang on for as long as he can, so that he can tell people what he is seeing, and hearing...but it may be that he is finally rattled enough to pick up stakes and get out of there now. I am praying that he gets out soon.

    Tonight, he called to let me know that the security and activity at Barksdale has been stepped up in his words, "by 300%".

    I asked as many questions as I felt that I could and took notes so that I could simply use his quotes to accurately report what he has stated.

    "We were working on a scheduled job in the munitions dump area...building new blast walls, when AF personnel came in and told us we had to leave right now. We asked if were being given a "work stoppage order." They replied "Get out now." and escorted us out. "More like they rushed us out."

    On April 1, AF Chief of Staff and a bunch of other DoD dignitaries flew in to Barksdale. Those coming on the base usually have a sidearm and maybe a rifle, but since the 1st, "dignitaries are also wearing flak jackets."

    "They are gearing up for something big."

    "They are bringing in serious junk."

    "Moving in warheads...I was working in an area where cruise missles are brought in, put together, armed, and shipped out."

    His exact words were, "They are shipping some serious s*** over there."

    (Here I tried to ascertain whether these were going on ships or planes.)

    He replied that "they are going everywhere." He also stated that "they dropped a bunch dummy bombs on some islands off the coast of North Korea"..(I just read a confirmation of that from an intelligence newsletter, and confirmed by WND an hour ago.)

    I asked him if Chinese officers were still on base. He replied that he had not been working in the area in which he first saw them, for the last three weeks, but he did say this..."The Chinese and the Russians are here...let me put it this way...everybody in the UN plus a few more are in here. (US)"

    He heard and directly quoted one officer referring to the testing of anti-ballistic missle defense system, "We are going to see a real test, now." He then said that he heard "Intelligence says there will be an attack on American soil."

    He then stated that these defense missile systems were " being shipped to several bases."

    Now he is a construction worker, and has been on the base which has contracted the company he works for, with over 40 different jobs. He said that in those three years, he has never seen it this way. His overwhelming impression is that our forces are mostly scattered, a huge number of foreign military personnel are in the US, many foreign officers have been at Barksdale for about 6 weeks that he knows of, and that "anything can happen," and "it looks like it will happen real quick."

    I'll translate that last statement in case you don't speak "Southern"...

    What he meant by that is that whatever is actually going on, North Korea notwithstanding, something is about to happen, it is about to happen soon, and there is no way we will ever be able to know the truth about it, who did what, when, where and why, but that whatever it is, we are sitting ducks for anything."

    He said, "You know, when I was in school, there was always somebody pushing for a fight, trying to start a fight, or get a fight stirred up. That is what this reminds me of...when I was in school...and somebody always wanted to see a fight."

    He then asked for prayers. So I am asking you to join in prayers for him...for all of them...

    Apr 5, 2013
    Source: http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=339

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    North Korea Tells Countries To Evacuate Their Embassies By April 10th
    CURATOR: Mort Amsel. "We can confirm that the British Embassy in Pyongyang received a communication from the North Korean government this morning," said a spokesman for the Foreign Office. "It said that the North Korean government would be unable to guarantee the safety of embassies and international organisations in the country in...
    Source: http://cts.vresp.com/c/?BeforeItsNews/6faecc74bf/22bf5010b4/71ac94c8a1

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    Post by pman35 Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:08 am

    Thanks Cy for the always informative reports , most interesting though is The Korea one , something doesn't seem right with it. While our attention is being put on that is it a smokescreen for something else going on. How many times now has this came about Threat of nuclear war , could another cold war be starting or maybe another afghan war or its preparation for the collapse of the worlds economy , as everyone knows Korea , China , Japan, Can't remember now which one it is but 1-2 of these countries will be a threat to the giants of commerce today.


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    Post by Admin Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:08 am

    Hi Animal!

    The answer to your question is multi-faceted.

    First combine it with this:

    http://modernsurvivalblog.com/government-gone-wild/federal-framework-being-set-up-to-arrest-sheriffs/

    The cover being created by goading North Korea will run over three things:

    1. the martial law open movements in the US which are becoming bold and unmistakable, (this includes gun confiscation and population reduction all of which results in the civil war over the corruption)

    2. the slow but rapidly increasing collapse of the global economic system which must be brought to its entire knees and drained of every last penny and ounce of recourse before total replacement (results in the panic of the uninformed portions of the population)

    3. The final handful of time before non-system controlled unambiguous contact (which in an uninformed population can either complicate understanding of what is happening OR wake the remaining masses from their system induced lobotomy)

    And coming right on the heels of these three is the same thing that happened last time (ancient last time), cyclic cosmic cataclysm...it's already started if you have been watching the growth in seismic, volcanic, and erratic weather activity. i.e. check the increases in sink holes for a blatant example in the U.S.


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    Post by Admin Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:19 am

    Admin wrote:Hi Animal!

    The answer to your question is multi-faceted.

    First combine it with this:

    http://modernsurvivalblog.com/government-gone-wild/federal-framework-being-set-up-to-arrest-sheriffs/

    The cover being created by goading North Korea will run over three things:

    1. the martial law open movements in the US which are becoming bold and unmistakable, (this includes gun confiscation and population reduction all of which results in the civil war over the corruption)

    2. the slow but rapidly increasing collapse of the global economic system which must be brought to its entire knees and drained of every last penny and ounce of recourse before total replacement (results in the panic of the uninformed portions of the population)

    3. The final handful of time before non-system controlled unambiguous contact (which in an uninformed population can either complicate understanding of what is happening OR wake the remaining masses from their system induced lobotomy)

    And coming right on the heels of these three is the same thing that happened last time (ancient last time), cyclic cosmic cataclysm...it's already started if you have been watching the growth in seismic, volcanic, and erratic weather activity. i.e. check the increases in sink holes for a blatant example in the U.S.



    So far, we are quite literally repeating ancient history.

    And everyone familiar with the system presented version of ancient history knows that the result was the fall to stone, bronze, iron, and despotism.

    The key to seeing the last vestiges is in the tale of the Dananns attempting to preserve the best of the old civilization by teaching those where they settled to value HISTORY, LAW, ART, MEDICINE, MANUFACTURING, AND A SOCIAL VALUE SYSTEM BASED ON EQUALITY.

    This is why I have worked to bring the Ancient Irish key into the current consciousness.

    Every piece of the puzzle matters.

    The People must come to understand where they have been to see the mistakes of the past in order to see the pitfalls of the present.

    This is the only way to elude total disaster.

    The way through lies through the fire. This is the path of the Strong and all are called to prove themselves.

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    Post by Admin Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:24 am

    Federal Framework Being Set Up To Arrest Sheriffs
    March 30, 2013
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    Colorado, and apparently Texas (next) are being targeted with an attempt to set up a federal authority framework that will enable Secret Service agents (not just those guarding the president), and others of the U.S. Secret Service including uniformed division officers, physical security technicians and specialists, and other ‘special officers’, to arrest and remove an elected sheriff for refusing to enforce the law (or anyone breaking the law).

    The bills being introduced defines law as including any rule, regulation, executive order, court order, statute or constitutional provision.

    Why are they doing this? Here’s why…



    It would establish federal authority police powers in a State, enabling an enforcement arm reporting directly to the president (the Secret Service).

    It would potentially lead to enabling the president / executive branch to theoretically override the actions and preventative measures that are now being taken by many States throughout the country who are trying to preserve 2nd Amendment gun rights and who are prohibiting the enforcement of unconstitutional law passed by Congress or pushed by executive order.

    As some of you may know, a growing list of sheriffs (more than 340 so far) across the country have expressed that they will not enforce a Washington mandate that clearly violates the Second Amendment.

    Source: http://modernsurvivalblog.com/government-gone-wild/federal-framework-being-set-up-to-arrest-sheriffs/


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