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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by aaron Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:24 pm

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    Post by aaron Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:34 pm

    I’m using chatGPT to dive into Corbin

    I find it to be an extremely effective tool and spelunking companion

    The Imaginal for Corbin goes beyond walking naked bewilderment and into the archetype realm of the psyche

    Corbin talks of archetypes and spiritual entities that are not simply a product of individual or collective fantasies but that transcend individual or cultural boundaries

    🤔

    Ok, so tarot would be a fine tool to access the imaginal I’m feeling



    According to Corbin, this spiritual dimension can be accessed to help one gain insights into deeper dimensions of their psyche and the nature of reality itself

    Corbin believed that the imaginal has a transformative power that can help us to overcome the limitations of our ego and transcend the material world

    🤔

    Ok, so I recently faced Moloch in the imaginal. We call it Moloch but it could have any number of names. The core idea being the entity that represent sacrificing what we love to obtain power.

    The archetype acts as a mirror to help us see the limitations of our own ego and the futility of our egos games

    Very well

    This is deep work

    The psyche is vast beyond belief

    One could easily get lost and distracted spelunking into the psyche



    It takes a level of relaxed focus to maintain a certain level of clarity

    The seeker is the ego and will always try to distract and look for comfort

    Here there is no need for comfort

    The ego seeks comfort from the unknown

    The bewildered needs no comfort from the mystery

    In terms of the imaginal, the fool and magician are our starting and ending guides/archetypes I would say

    The fool bringing a level of relaxation and the magician bringing a level of focus

    Merging the opposites in each moment we transcend the world of confusion and suffering

    We discover that our basic nature is that of joy and effortless doing

    Where nothing is rushed but everything is accomplished

    Where the fight and flight reflexes give way to trust and love

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:58 pm

    Good work.

    Tarot is such a tool.

    Ultimately Corbin is a mystic.

    What are you?

    Eschatologist, Mormon, Mystic, Spy, Muppet?

    Yes, this is deep.

    It’s the deepest.

    The ego is the ego.

    What else could there be here now?

    We are on the verge of eternity.

    This is an old game.

    I’d speak to Rilke.

    https://www.themarginalian.org/2021/06/29/rilke-letters-to-a-young-poet-macy-barrows/
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    Post by Mr. Janus Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:31 pm

    Dummy wrote:What are you?

    Eschatologist, Mormon, Mystic, Spy, Muppet?    


    All of those but I do prefer Moron most of all.

    I like where this is going 😉

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    Post by aaron Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:03 am

    What are you indeed

    Ultimately we can’t know what we are but by what we do I feel

    I think poets touch close to home in the act of their creation

    Is a poet a mystic?

    I think most mystics have had something to say about the mystery of being and have played with language as a form of exploring the dance between surrender, will, love, and trust

    Goethe wrote:True poetry announces itself thus, that, as a worldly gospel, it can by internal cheerfulness and external comfort free us from the earthly burdens which press upon us. Like an air-balloon, it lifts us, together with the ballast which is attached to us, into higher regions, and lets the confused labyrinths of the earth lie developed before us as in a bird’s-eye view.

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:29 pm

    I don’t think all poets are mystics.

    A few are.

    But I think what the good ones do is mystical.

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    Post by aaron Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:17 pm

    Amidst emerald hues
    Mystic sylphid's bower abloom
    Her laughter echoes
    Like a siren
    And bids recompense
    Not knowing
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    Post by aaron Thu Apr 27, 2023 2:22 am

    Toxins’ green touch breathing heavy
    Three white birds cross homeward bound
    “Look!”, the specter whispers labored
    “safeguard they the helpless laden,
    or torment fixed upon thy brow”

    “Nay” say I and set off yonder
    “Best check thyself before the dawn”
    “For tortured is as tortured does,
    and you have yet to pass beyond”

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    Post by aaron Tue May 02, 2023 8:01 am

    A few days ago I was kidnapped by the goblins and taken to their goblin festival

    There I was shackled and chained and made to provide entertainment for the goblin younglings while the rest drank Mead and made Merry

    After several days of partying the goblins fell asleep

    Too hungover and exhausted, they never even noticed I had retrieved the keys from the passed out goblin who had kidnapped me

    I made my way out of the mountains and forest and hitchhiked back home

    Now I stand here before you freshly showered and smelling of musky wildflowers to tell you all about

    The wildest possible ride

    So let me tell you

    It’s a wild ride

    No matter what happens, enjoy it, all of it

    The ups and downs, the loop de loops

    The fast

    The slow

    It’s just a ride

    And no one is driving this thing
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    Post by aaron Tue May 02, 2023 11:01 am

    Let me tell you

    Duder has been over 10 days hemp free and has not experienced any depression, anxiety, nihilism, or strong cravings

    Duder has gotten his shit together, but it wasn’t so much a battle as it was a mindful serenity, surrender and forgiveness

    At some point along the way Duder developed a thc sensitivity

    Just a small amount would send Duder into orbit

    Ungrounded and unable to function efficiently and effectively through the daily grind

    Misplacing things regularly

    Getting lost in parking lots unable to remember where duder parked

    Loss of motivation and curiosity at work

    Like a dragging wet blanket

    There were moments on the come down that felt just right

    And past attempts to let it go resulted in depressed and nihilistic states of being

    But somehow, after a long period of tapering off, duder was released

    God had chewed him up and spit him out

    It was a healing herb at first, but eventually it was time to move on

    the daily grind is what duder loves most

    Duder has now been enjoying his wholesome trinity, resist modernity, daily supplement stack

    Duder feels it may also be contributing to the lack of withdrawals and pains normally experienced after dropping the herb

    It has that 0/1 fool magician vibe

    Helps duder lock into the zone

    Relaxed and at ease yet focused and productive

    L-Theanine - 200mg in morning w coffee/tea; 200mg an hour before bed

    Glycine - 2g in the morning; 1-3g before bed

    Magnesium Glycinate - 500mg midday

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    Post by Mr. Janus Wed May 03, 2023 12:52 am

    Yeah bruh I was a habitual smoker for years and years but ever since COVID that shit has not been the plant ally it once was.

    I kept seeing Aviary guys in black helicopters  dressed as clowns circling round my shack and I was like "o no too much!"

    Lol jk

    It seems like since most of that shit got decriminalized/legalized it's way more potent and intense than ever.

    The Queen of Heaven will literally light up a rig, a bong, then chase them with two one hitter swats and just watching that shit alone without even partaking makes me nervous af.

    She got some health problems so it's different for her but still...


    Lolz.


    I think the plant chooses who stays in favor and who falls out of it.

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    Post by aaron Wed May 03, 2023 7:18 am

    Ha!

    Yes, I think your right that the plant choose who stays in favor and who falls out.

    I also developed asthma and had to use an inhaler every time I lit up.

    Lungs were not having it.

    I have close family who have smoked daily for over a decade and still do. Said they went through a high sensitivity phase as well.

    It’s interesting.

    I don’t condemn it at all, for me it spit me out, that’s all.

    It is well with my soul.

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    On another note.

    Jorjani has a new book out that is more within my digestible realm compared to Prometheism as I am prone to get lost in smart people talk.

    I just purchased Artemis Unveiled.

    It looks fun.

    Looking forward to the read.
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    Post by aaron Wed May 03, 2023 12:25 pm

    I lied

    It happens

    Locking into “the zone” is not a matter supplements at all

    That’s more grasping

    Locking into the zone is the end of grasping

    The mind doesn’t want to give up

    Wisdom has other plans

    It comes like a thief in the night and smashes your false idols

    You grin and walk straight on down the open road

    Nearly naked but for a fig leaf

    Wondering for a fleeting moment

    why it is that you feel you aren’t living

    unless you have some burden to carry

    realizing then there is no answer to that question



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    Post by Mr. Janus Wed May 03, 2023 9:59 pm

    Weird I just had a dream about JRJ two nights ago.

    He was in my childhood home.

    I asked him if the head Deva is who I thought it was.

    Some dummy from my place of work was angrily screaming "NO, WHY DOES IS MATTER!?

    It doesn't take a Rhodes scholar to sus out the leading candidate.


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    Post by aaron Wed May 03, 2023 10:20 pm

    Excellent interview


    Head Deva?

    Don’t know.

    Don’t even know what that means honestly

    Will probably gain more context as I read more JDJ

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    Deva Definition:

    “ a member of a class of divine beings in the Vedic period, which in Indian religion are benevolent and in Zoroastrianism are evil.”

    🤔

    I wonder if there is any connection to aliens alien

    Everything matters

    I’m liking JDJ a lot

    He is a kindred spirit for sure

    A radical kindred spirit



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    Post by Mr. Janus Wed May 03, 2023 10:38 pm

    Yeah I think of all his work, Closer Encounters had the biggest effect on me bruh.

    Uber Man too.

    I'm pretty sure I know who the head Deva is though.

    It takes a village...

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    Post by aaron Wed May 03, 2023 10:41 pm

    Nothing is separate in any sense

    Whatever/whoever this Deva entity is it would be a part of us

    Or part of thee

    All y’all look like a bunch of aliens honestly

    Everyone and everything

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    Post by aaron Thu May 04, 2023 10:49 am

    JRJ does seem to be a little bit fired up

    I am not so fired up

    Watts would be better company for an evening of food, drinks, and socializing IMO

    You can’t take it too seriously

    I do appreciate the “give me liberty or give me death” Tomorrowland ayn rand-eque vibe however
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    Post by Mr. Janus Thu May 04, 2023 10:11 pm

    I tried sneaking onto the Tomorrowland set when they came to town.

    Didn't take.

    Pretty sure I walked right by Damon Lindelof on Canal Street though.

    He got a bad rap for a while because of Lost but that is still my all time favorite show.

    Once The Leftovers came out though I think everyone realized he was operating on a different level.

    That show is definitely not underrated anyone who sees it knows it's a masterpiece but still it never became a part of the cultural zeitgeist.

    Instead it's more underappreciated than anything.
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    Post by aaron Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:17 pm

    I finished Prometheism a month or so ago

    I’m still wrestling with it a bit

    It’s no Cold Mountain

    I like the core story of Prometheus/Lucifer

    JRJ is a conspiracy extremist in some ways

    But we all are

    I liked his interpretation of the Ridley Scott films

    Some of my favorites

    Prometheus, Alien Covenant and the Blade Runners

    mystical forms of art

    Expressions of the ineffable

    David’s ultimate creation

    A perfect beast of a creature

    Not unlike the way one develops their own writing skills or any other form of art or expression

    “Once you've gotten the meaning, you can forget the words.

    Where can I find a man who has forgotten words so I can talk with him?”
    -Zhuangzi

    Zhuangzi is like David in what they work to unmask I feel

    There is a fierceness to the vitality of naked life energy

    Like a ravenous beast or creature

    The post-human human we develop with our will to power

    Facing the void we learn to adapt and express ourselves in more subtle ways

    Unmasking the false, our true will is unveiled

    Like a ravenous xenomorph bursting out of our belly

    Hah

    Reading Alan Moore’s Promethia now

    A beautiful piece of art and story telling
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    Post by aaron Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:06 pm

    P.S. smelly can go screw himself

    Dopey kid?

    Shhhhhhh?

    Hah

    GTF outta here

    I feast at the table with the titans

    I earned my hammer and chisel

    I sojourned through the abyss

    I stand here on cold mountain grinning after all the shit I ate

    No greater or lesser than any fool

    I am not your bitch

    My voice cannot be silenced

    You’re welcome
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:32 pm

    🐐💨
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    Post by aaron Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:32 pm

    🐐💨💨

    Shoo!
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    Post by aaron Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:47 pm

    Anyway…
    😄

    passing gas is always a fun time

    Haha
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    Post by aaron Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:00 am

    Monday night vibes

    Street food and Jazz

    Best played at the same time

    Street food for the visuals and jazz for the sound

    It just works






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