It looks like we’re running up,against the 40 page allotment from the last thread......
And I’m still with Tulsi, unless there is a better suggestion......
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dan wrote:Well, Ack,
Did you find out anything when you when you went through your portal?
dan wrote:
Ack,
Cy does not seem to suffer our kind of foolishness gladly. She is definitely a no nonsense kind of gal......
dan wrote:
5:15.........
And, in that respect, Cy is similar to the Princess!
Cy might have fallen off a mountain, too.....
dan wrote:Cy,
We both suppose that there is a Creator.
My starting impulse is to give our Creator the benefit of the doubt by supposing that she created the best possible world. This might not be the case, but it’s not being so would render the world unintelligible. Instead of being the coCreators, we become alienated, redundant interlopers. Instead of being the chrysalis, we become some sort of cancer.
Well now there's a bunch of BS Dan. That's like taking the spoils of hospitality obligated by your host and then stabbing the host in the back when the grant of time wears out.
A big part of the problem is you make assumption in the first place before actually listening carefully. Just as you do not understand me the vast majority of the time, make assumptions about what I have said, stating those assumptions in a way that puts words in my mouth, you do the same to Source. You give the "Creator the benefit of the doubt by supposing that she created the best possible world" You assume that is the purpose without having listened.
And then you render the world "unintelligible" by calling the Creator's creation a cancer. You assume this is about chrysalis or cancer.
But, Cy, I don’t think you have ever provided us with a big picture. You appear to be giving us a piece of an infinite jigsaw puzzle.
You are correct I have not ever provided a big picture. It was because you have not learned to listen and demonstrated you have learned to listen. What meaningful education and consciousness has in common is a certain complexity built in layers like an onion.
You’re not a big picture person. I am.
You would be amazed at how many people who DO know me, would heartily disagree with you on that.
You are very concerned with your background in Ireland.
Only because you all should be. The Ireland of my people's time there is not the same Ireland of today. What Ireland WAS terminated with the death of Elizabeth I and was imported to North America to eventually morph into a new creation...a creation only dreamt of by the Templars...a nation built to withstand the Illumined onslaught manned by a PEOPLE who's inherited culture belonged to the OTHER SIDE of the PreDeluvian global war...the ones who kicked the ASS of the Illuminati's ancestors. It's only about your provenance of identity. Your roots.
Without your roots your identity is useless because you are incapable of understanding who you are and what is expected of you.
Brain Trust you boyz are NOT. It all went over your head and out the door....Dan didn't understand a word of it.
However, at the same time, you recognize that you are here on a global mission.
Yeah, for whatever good it does. Shrug.
It’s not at all clear how the different pieces are supposed to fit together.
Yeah, that's why I said "Brain Trust you boyz are NOT." For me it is all interconnected and I don't have any trouble seeing how.
Because you are presenting us with a potentially infinite puzzle, there is no guarantee that there will be any fitting together.
Sure it's a potentially infinite puzzle -- you can get as specific as you like or go big picture. I deal with massive amounts of information. You don't, so expecting any of you to figure out relationships is a fools errand...you're too wrapped up in your little world.
Also, to suppose that we might be coCreators is to subscribe to the philosophy of personalism, which is to suppose that Creation is for, by and about persons....... that whoever happens to be the Creator is able to identify with the sapient Creatures...... there is no reason to suppose that we could not sit down and have a beer with the Creator, as a coCreator. Being Creator is something of an arbitrary and honorific/ad-hoc title.
Dan I'm not into personalism, utilitarianism, unitarianism or any other -ism. I'm involved in learning pure consciousness -- all being. It's all perception...multi-dimensional...if you want to learn how, start with listening rather than assuming.
Every person has an infinite capacity to be One with God....... a capacity that is exercised at the best possible time in each one of the 10^10 loops of the cosmic Soul.
It doesn't require death, destruction, chaos, or mayhem...IN FACT you get there faster by allowing perception to evolve naturally by not deliberately screwing up the moving parts of a rock.
What do I mean by screwing up the moving parts of a rock? I mean by depopulation agenda (because epiphanies begin by feeding off interconnection), by catastrophic planetary trauma such as helium placed and detonated UNDER yellowstone or any of the carbon pools, by stealing elections with rigged voting machines so Hillary would have gotten her "promised" presidency, by instigating WW3 by creating a situation in Syria that could be blamed on Iran, by releasing bioweapons in mosquitoes, on aerosoled metal particulates, by mind war on the general population so that life is more about survival than any of the rest which facilitates soul evolution/consciousness complexity...on down the line.
there's a bit of you BIG PICTURE Dan, if you can handle it. The meltdown isn't in the PEOPLE, it's in the Leaders who think they have to be control freaks....the Constitutional Republic was built to curb the control freaks so the general population would have greater freedom to do what comes naturally...evolve.
Every person always has direct access to the One mind, but usually we are not aware and/or do not choose to exercise the option.
Of course not Dan! The elites and leaders are too busy forcing every person to be focused on mere survival day to day. Because it benefits them.
12:10........
And, Cy, you have expressed considerable misgivings with respect to any limitations on our quantitative growth.
No Dan I have not expressed considerable misgivings. I've been throwing what's been going on back in the face of the "observers"...just letting them know we have their number and measure. The fun and games are on borrowed time.
At the same time, you have not provided us with any guidance on whether or not we are to be supplanted by a superhuman species.
Dan NO you will not be supplanted by a superhuman species. Will you co-exist with the hybrids? YES. But you will pinwheel around each other as all cousins do, cutting a broad swath...it is ego I caution you about as I do all beings. Ego can be both friend and foe...a double edged sword that cuts both ways.
If humans are to be superseded or otherwise rendered obsolete, then all bets about the best possible world are off the table.
You see...there's your assumption gear going round again. Ask the Pleiadians -- the Children of An Griglean...they of all people know how it goes with cousins. You only make monsters out of something when you assign the nature of one to another...there's enough real monsters in the universe without creating more by the Labeling Theory of Crime.
Remind me later to share the link -- I have a pdf on the Labeling Theory of Crime written by Quintus Dias. Too tired and lazy to fetch it tonight.
Sincerely, A Dog With No Illusion.
(cont......)
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
dan wrote:Gary,
It would be helpful, for all concerned, if you would your posts as a view from the other side...... from the big world side.
People like Cy are simply incapable of wrapping their minds around the possibility that this is a personal world. The are incapable of going against the grain of their, oh so, parochial culture.
Yes, Cy, I understand that you’re on about the good guys v the bad guys.
It makes life so simple....... you know that you must be one of the good guys, and everyone else is either for you or against you....... end of story.
News flash, Cy, it’s not that simple....... but then, further down it’s more simple, because it is personal.
When you start going on about us v them, and about the big world, I cannot help but to start tuning you out...... because, Cy, I’m not that kind person. I’m a person’s person. Anything else is a lie.
If you have been told anything else, you have been lied to....... sorry.
If you have not been told of the difference between a big and a small world, you have been lied to........ not deliberately....... it’s simply a failure by omission........ down through the generations.
The point is, Cy, that your ancestors have, quite unwittingly, told you the best possible lie.
Without all those lies, you would not be here, standing next to God.
One day you will begin to wake to this chicken little truth.
How do I know I’m God.......?
I don’t...... I have to make educated guesses.
OM is the platform for both....... education and speculation...... that’s my job..... my game..... the only game in town, just now.
Come on in...... the water is great..... come one, come all.
Another way I know that I’m the real God, is because I know that I cannot rest on my laurels.
The Lord is not a person, rather it is a personal office...... being held only temporarily, at the behest of Eternity. In all my temporality, I’m the best possible stand in for Eternity...... here, now.
I say this with the possibility of my voice reaching the Ends of the Earth, on the light and dark webs.
(cont.......)
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
dan wrote:Well, Cy, are you judging it impossible that either one of us could be a stand in for God, at this crucial juncture in history?
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
dan wrote:Wonderful, Cy,
Using your analogy.......
Source has two hands, defining personal history...... the Alpha and Omega hands.
I claim that Jesus is the Alpha hand, and that I have a leg up on being the Omega hand.
And, as coCreators, every one of us is a hand of Synchronicity.
(cont.......)
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
dan wrote:Was Jesus a hand of Synchronicity?
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Ack wrote:What is synchronicity and how is it tracked?
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Dan Smith wrote:And, Cy, you are half right about one thing. You say that this is a bottleneck...... that this is a filter. No, Cy, this not a filter or a bottleneck........
News flash....... this is The Bottleneck..... The Filter, Cy.
All lies stop here..... only the Truth will get through.
Donald Trump is the biggest lie on Earth. He will not get through.
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
dan wrote:Cy,
Now, listen to me.......
Here is one thing that you need to understand, before you go around shooting people......
Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord. You are not the Lord.
Do you hear me, Cy?
I thank you.
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
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