Who do we think we are?

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Ok, sports fans.........

Before we ask ourselves any other questions........

Here is the #1 priority question........

Who the heck do we think we are?  

I’m not aware that this question has ever been seriously asked before.  The only precedent of which I’m aware is when it was simply posed by Paul Gauguin.  

I would not pose this question unless I thought I had the rudiments of an answer.  I’m seeking help from anyone who would be willing to participate in fleshing out the answer.  
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(The continuation of this ‘topic post’ is the no. 3 post (on the first page https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t361-who-do-we-think-we-are ) of this topic.....)

When I say nothing, it is a pointer to everything.

I forget you have not translated Zen terminology probably and realized all words about it are riddles.

Dan wrote:But, I think you’d agree that even nothing, or especially nothing, has an infinite potential.

Of course.

How else could we individuate if we were not drawing on our infinite reserve of potential?

I simply assign no god or person to this.

Tao or IT will suffice for the rest of my life.

But of course we are the living walking talking breathing expressions of IT, ion its myriad aspects.

The Tao is maybe mystical, which is why we don't talk about it or try to understand it.

We understand by knowing our selves and expanding our lives based on the raw ingredients provided.

This may be all of it.

This is why I say ordinary.

I can't explain.

You shouldn't take me literally.

I use hints or encoded language sometimes to throw you off and make you look for yourself.

Someone seeking will look into themselves and not take anyone else's words for this.

But I am finding most just stop and settle for others' words.

No no, go further, see your simple life as the crux of cosmos.

I am playing with realization here, it plays with us.

I am not lying.

I have checked myself against several masters.

They all say the same thing.

Be glad I came to my realization naturally, it was the better way.

I like the Zen style of constantly trying to push each other off balance.

This practice is critical and I practice it here.

Why?

Because it's so easy to be distracted.

What worked for me, worked for me.

Something does happen here if you pay attention, YOU!

If you can catch the slight of hand at work here in and around you, something amazing will happen.

You may even meet the Trickster.

But that's all nonsense really.

Still, it's very fun to communicate with Consciousness directly, whether it's lying to me or not, it accommodated my deepest desire to seek and know and turned me back into my self.

It's only a mirror and I mirror it.

What appears is anyone's guess really.

But fuck, here we all are, is that not the most profound statement provable to all about Being?

One only, incredibly, needs to look for themselves.

That's all.

What you settle on is up to you and fate after you spin the wheel.

But you are missing your life if you don't chuck what you believe and fear and spin that wheel, at least try to set it aside and try other things.

You will find all things reflect the same thing.

YOU!

Ha!

The damndest thing to be alive.

Anyone sure of it and what direction it's heading is insane in my book.

Like, please, you lying muppet is my thought, you have no awareness even of yourself here and they want to talk about Demiurges and Gods.

Nonsense, you are here, we can dispense with the distracting language if we would really like to get to IT.

I am sure of nothing other than this image being here.

I'll keep pushing, you can ignore me or kick me off, but that would be stupid of you and only more evidence you only like to hear what your itching ears want to here.

This won't be summed up in a few sentences or a word even.

If you have glimpsed it, YOU, how ever could there be enough words?

This is what being here is.

And if you don't know what I mean, find someone else to show you you trust who might know 'nothin'.

You will know who to talk to.

But will you listen?

Do you really know what you think you know?

I bet you don't.

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I would retire the word truth. Our English doesn’t point here.

Shakespeare’s does.

English is a trap itself.

If you haven’t doubted all of it, what have you realized?

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I hope I’m not bugging you grand pa.

I’m enjoying seeing what you are about.

You will be my grand pa, won’t you?

I don’t require any care or feeding.

Bahahaha

Git on with your dumb Disclosure.

The Demiturd doesn’t care.

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Dan,

http://www.svpvril.com/Cosmology/cosunity1.html

You appear desperate to class others into groups of ISMs.

I may look with favour at Neoplatonism.

No god needed, just a system of creation.


hobbit

hobbit,

Thank you very much for this information.  

Hopefully this will greatly facilitate our communication, going forward.  


smelly and Ack,  

Pilate famously asked Jesus....... what is the Truth?  Basically, his response was........ Let me get back to you on that, Pontius.  

Those are my marching orders.  After two millennia, the world is finally ready for the Truth.

smelly and Ack are not ready....... not yet.  

But, guys, before we get started, aren’t there any other words you’d like me to dispose of?  

You’re just getting started, right?  

Basically, you’d just like everyone to STFU.  Tell me I’m wrong.  

Yes, the mystics of the world do not want to talk while the flavor lasts. And they wish everyone else would kindly oblige.  

But....... it’s a pity...... the show goes on.......

I’m just a little bit smarter than you guys........

I’m going to have the last word......

No more talking........?

Yes, just shouting......... Hallelujah......!  

Well, maybe there's a God above
But all I've ever learned from love
Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew ya
And it's not a cry that you hear at night
It's not somebody who's seen the light
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

10:50.........

Yes, then we can retire the Truth........ everything will be True.  

There will be no more lies and illusions.  Only the Truth will be able to shine through.  It will be blinding....... better bring your Sun glasses.  

Or...... maybe that’s what smelly has been trying to tell us..... all along....... Hallelujah......!



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Ack,

You’re not wrong.

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Grand Pa, the only thing clear is you aren’t ready to know your self.

smelly,

I’m God, and so are you. That’s the Truth, and you know it.

Truth is a horrible delusional muppet word and all the false hopes attached to it are bullshitz.

Nuff said.

Ok, then, it’s not the Truth....... it’s just a damn fact.

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Apparent facts.

Appearances are all we got, Jack Ass.

We can see through our cultural trance, belief systems and limitations.

We can see who we really are.

You won’t use words.

You don’t know what god is.

You are playing a loose game grand pa.

Sloppy and lazy, nothing new.

Are you prepared to accept almost everything you have said is bullshit gramps?

I have spared nothing.

I have put every fact to the sword and I’m still here.

It’s all bullshit except that you and I are God.

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Oh, and did I forget to say that it’s the best possible bullshit?

Gramps just can’t handle we can free ourselves from thought.

Best Possible Bullshit I like.