Hello, Cy, hello, OMF II

Admin wrote:Just hold that thought you've got my friend. Synchronicity has plenty more where Tomion came from.

mdonnall2002 wrote:Jacob (Jake) Barnett

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g91IQsS2spA&feature=related

Profound wisdom in one so young?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq-FOOQ1TpE&feature=related

dan wrote:
Is the resurrection/rapture truly necessary......? No, not ontologically, but, yes, psychologically. Most of us will get to heaven, in the old fashioned way. But, at the very end, the final cleanup crew, all 144 million of them, down here, will have the rapture option, as a special reward for their patience.

This is just so as to maintain a maximal/optimal degree of continuity across the cosmic 'spark-gap' from our future Omega, ~200 years from now, back to our megalithic Alpha, some 6k-12k years ago. Across that gap are deployed 12 motherships and then 12 Noah's arks. Does that sound too much like gibberish?

dan wrote:1:30---------

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/us/david-petraeus-seen-as-an-invincible-cia-director-self-destructs.html?hp

Stuff does happen........

The F.B.I. investigators were not pursuing evidence of Mr. Petraeus’s marital infidelity, which would not be a criminal matter, the official said. But their examination of his e-mails, most or all of them sent from a personal account and not from his C.I.A. account, raised the possibility of security breaches that needed to be addressed directly with him.

Bill Ryan wrote:

Well, I'll be danged, as well -- we had thought it would never see the light of day. If this is indeed accurate! I say that because as best I know no-one's told us it was airing... not even TruTV.

Important: I'd be most grateful if someone could record this, if it airs. We have our own copies of the pilot -- which we're legally constrained from sharing -- but we have no way of knowing if anything will have been changed or omitted. I'd also very much like to know how it's introduced... etc, etc. Personally, in Ecuador, I will have no access.

It's not a bad episode. The showpiece is Bob Dean, of course (pretty much at the end), but it also features Gordon Novel, David Wilcock, Brian O'Leary, Richard Hoagland, and Andy Basiago. Bob Dean is just wonderful, as can be imagined.

Do please keep me informed.... very much appreciated.

“Alarms went off on larger security issues,” the official said. As a result, F.B.I. agents spoke with the C.I.A. director about two weeks ago, and he learned in the discussion, if he was not already aware, that they knew of his affair with Ms. Broadwell, the official said.

Web-based e-mail like Gmail and Yahoo Mail can be quite vulnerable to hacking, and it is possible that F.B.I. experts were studying whether Mr. Petraeus’s accounts had been compromised. Any possibility that hackers could use the C.I.A. director’s e-mail as a route to break into sensitive government computer systems would be an obvious concern.

But the fears of bigger security problems proved unjustified, and the security questions were resolved, two government officials said.

But there are still several unanswered questions surrounding the circumstances of the F.B.I. investigation and about the affair between Mr. Petraeus and Ms. Broadwell, officials said Saturday.

It is not clear yet, for instance, when Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. or Robert S. Mueller III, the director of the F.B.I., became aware that the F.B.I.’s investigation into Ms. Broadwell’s e-mails had run across Mr. Petraeus.

Tracy Schmaler, a spokeswoman for Mr. Holder, declined to comment Saturday on when he was informed about or authorized the surveillance of Mr. Petraeus’s e-mails.

The authorities have provided no information about the person who filed a complaint about Ms. Broadwell’s e-mail, the apparent trigger for the F.B.I. investigation.

dan wrote:McD,

You and Cy, are trying to make me into something that I'm not. I'm not a technology guy. I'm a spirit guy, in the metaphysical, ontological sense of that word.

We already have way too much technology, and way too little spirit. Until we achieve a better balance between technology and spirit, we ain't goin' nowhere, guys!

My mission, should I choose to accept it, is to bring the spirit within the purview of reason, and, likewise, to bring reason within the purview of the spirit. Whoever succeeds at this mission will be the long awaited 4M/K/SoT/X2. Until then, my friends, all other bets are off. They are off my table.

Hey, prove me wrong. Sell your Tomion generator to the T-party. They are desperate.

If you have a technological issue, talk to any one or to all three of my technology/physics gurus, Gary, Jack and Ron. I will give you each of their cell phone #'s. Before consulting them, however, I suggest that you get your own technology ducks in a row, and I would start right here....... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_energy_suppression . And then, from there, see if you can find something that we don't already know. In the meantime, if you have specific scientific questions, then we should start a new thread, for those questions. But don't expect me to do your homework for you. I do have other and, I believe, much more pressing priorities, whether you can sympathize with them, or not.......

You will quickly discover that Hal Puthoff, is the most highly respected physicist in the field. Ron has been investigating Hal's work for the past thirty years of his professional life. Call Hal, and ask him what he thinks of Ron's investigations, and then let us know. Hal has not spoken to me, in almost twenty years. This would be the most important piece of new information that you could bring to this table.

Until such time, time is being wasted......


9:10----------

There are many, many questions that are still dangling, twisting in the wind, some of which I have recently remarked.........

Is the resurrection/rapture truly necessary......? No, not ontologically, but, yes, psychologically. Most of us will get to heaven, in the old fashioned way. But, at the very end, the final cleanup crew, all 144 million of them, down here, will have the rapture option, as a special reward for their patience.

This is just so as to maintain a maximal/optimal degree of continuity across the cosmic 'spark-gap' from our future Omega, ~200 years from now, back to our megalithic Alpha, some 6k-12k years ago. Across that gap are deployed 12 motherships and then 12 Noah's arks. Does that sound too much like gibberish? Well, the contest for a better denouement is still open.


Here's another dangler....... Why is monism such a big deal with the BPWH........?

It's both a matter of aesthetics and logistics. Everyone likes to connect the dots. That's just what mind and spirit do. If the Creator has any simpatico with us creatures, he will make Creation user friendly. No? Yes, even to the point of allowing himself to be contaminated with our messiness. That's kinda what the X-event was about. No? It's also kinda like what we have learned in physics....... as above, so below. Just ask Pythagoras and the pantheists.

Mind/matter dualism is so yesterday!


Then there is the question of the bandwidth of Creation. Well, my counter-question concerns the bandwidth of the Mandelbrot, which, IMHO, is a matter of one's PoV. Each of the little brots contains, potentially, an infinite amount of information, but, if you put all of those little brots together, the sum-total is Zero. It's a pretty good trick, if you can pull it off. Did God pull it off?

I suspect he did. It also has something to do with Yakir's notion of weak vs. strong measurements, that Jack and I were studying, a couple of months ago, just before I took my bounce, or was it a dive? The jury is still out. You and I can, at best, perform weak measurements. The Strong measurement is when the Fat Lady sings. It's just that simple.

In the case of the Mandelbrot, the total information is ~2. In the case of the BPWH, the total information content is l-o-v-e, which is what....... ~4? Everything else is just random noise, which never/ultimately gets registered or recorded. Just ask your friendly neighborhood mystic.

What then about the Akashic record, and our eidetic memories? Are they weak? Well, like I say, Creation is forever, but, as with all great music, you need only hum a few bars. What is forever is that poor little flower in the crannied wall. It is also the X-event.


10:20-----------

The strong measurement is also known as the final judgment, i.e. universalism. And, perhaps, you are hearing this for the first time, right here, on OM.

And so am I, as a matter of fact.......


Ok, but why must there be the caveat of universalism? Well, that is only about monism.

Hell is just so yesterday....... Speaking of which, I'm attempting to organize a contingent for GFC/SfA tomorrow, when, once again, we'll be discussing Islam. The underlying issue is whether or not the Muslims are going to hell? And, IMHO, the issue that underlies that one is whether there will be 72 or 10^10 virgins.

After all, is not monism all about cosmic intercourse, or, as Sam's grandfather put it, Cosmic Relations.

Or, in deference to Ron's erstwhile boss, should it be cosmic affairs? Is the jury still out? Will the skinny lady sing?



11:35-----------

It seems that all I have to do now is to find a mundane interpretation for Yakir's notion of weak measurements. Just how weak are they? For instance, was Hiroshima a weak measurement? Which is to say, is Hiroshima redeemable? Was it just another boo-boo?


Be advised that there is a measurement problem.


12:35-----------

In preparation for tomorrow's SfA meeting on Islam, Sam has recommended the following two books, the second one of which is available on Kindle..........

http://www.amazon.com/What-Sufism-Islamic-Texts-Society/dp/0946621411

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=message+of+the+qur%27an




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dan wrote:
In preparation for tomorrow's SfA meeting on Islam, Sam has recommended the following two books, the second one of which is available on Kindle..........

http://www.amazon.com/What-Sufism-Islamic-Texts-Society/dp/0946621411

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=message+of+the+qur%27an

If these alleged insiders have any cosmic understanding whatsoever, then they know, as well as you and I do, Cy, that there are no accidents. Synchronicity does rule. Trying to mess around with such forces puts one on a very slippery slope into oblivion. Yes?

The adherents of the Mu'tazili school are best known for their having asserted that, because of the perfect unity and eternal nature of Allah, the Qur'an must therefore have been created, as it could not be co-eternal with God. From this premise, the Mu'tazili school of Kalam proceeded to posit that the injunctions of God are accessible to rational thought and inquiry: because knowledge is derived from reason, reason is the "final arbiter" in distinguishing right from wrong. It follows, in Mu'tazili reasoning, that "sacred precedent" is not an effective means of determining what is just, as what is obligatory in religion is only obligatory "by virtue of reason."

It is banned in Saudi Arabia due to differences on some creedal issues compared with the Salafi ideology prelevant there.

Natural philosophy, or physics, in the strict sense is the study of natures; however, since by ‘nature’ most medieval natural philosophers meant an internal principle of change or motion that belongs to something essentially, natural philosophy came to be identified more specifically with the study of motion and the conditions purportedly necessary for motion, such as the infinite, place, void and time. Within the medieval Arabic-speaking world there were two primary intellectual traditions in which natural philosophy was done: kalam and falsafa.

Although some early Muslim theologians maintained that there is basically only accidents and that bodies are composites of bundles of accidents, while others held that there are only corporeal bodies and that everything else is constituted out of the interpenetration of these bodies, most Muslim theologians included both atoms[1] and accidents in their ontology and additionally God.

Their existence would help explain why galaxies appear to rotate faster than the Standard Model would suggest. Physicists have speculated that as well as the particles we know about, galaxies contain invisible, undetected dark matter made up of super particles. The galaxies therefore contain more mass than we can detect and so spin faster.

Researchers at the LHCb detector have dealt a serious blow to this idea. They have measured the decay between a particle known as a Bs Meson into two particles known as muons. It is the first time that this decay has been observed and the team has calculated that for every billion times that the Bs Meson decays it only decays in this way three times.

If superparticles were to exist the decay would happen far more often. This test is one of the "golden" tests for supersymmetry and it is one that on the face of it this hugely popular theory among physicists has failed.

Thus there is what creates, namely, God, and what is created. What is created was divided further into what occupies space, namely, substances or atoms, and what does not, namely, accidents.

dan wrote:Cy,

I did have a brief visit, chez R&A, yesterday afternoon. I felt that there was undue pressure toward the dilution of my blogging activities, and so I felt it necessary to beat a somewhat hasty retreat. I remain a one-trick pony.

dan wrote:Cy,

According to his wiki entry, Asad joined the Pakistan Movement, upon his arrival in India, in 1932. This coincided with the political emergence of Hitler in Germany. He may have already been having second thoughts about his previous opposition to Zionism, and was applying this insight to India, with its large Muslim minority. But this is just speculation, on my part. His parents were arrested by the Nazi's in 1939, and killed in the Holocaust.

Interesting. I'll see if there is more online to read about him. Thank you.

I did have a brief visit, chez R&A, yesterday afternoon. I felt that there was undue pressure toward the dilution of my blogging activities, and so I felt it necessary to beat a somewhat hasty retreat. I remain a one-trick pony.

Well, my apologies. I guess you can see I have a pretty fierce bug in my bonnet over catastrophic purposeful depopulation. I can't help it really. But I am also very glad that there are others with similar bugs in their hats, like the guys in white and green uniform who stepped in to the hi-jinx back in 2007 (late summer) when Cheney gave a nod to getting a plane load of toys toward that objective. Some-folks out there, according to all the parallel talk, are thinking along the same lines as you and believe as you do about a need for a profound event to get the ball rolling. I was asked to help the mentality find another way of looking at their world. Intervention is ok when it comes from another human being. Shrug.


Eventually that lot will get what they wish for because they're quite good at knocking out the white hats from commission. And most white hats believe adamantly in playing nice under all but the worst of circumstances...as you might figure they and I differ over the definition of "worst of circumstances".

Anyway peace my friend I wasn't trying to run you off.


11:40-----------

Let us note that within Islam, as in most traditions, there is fundamental tension between Kalam and Occasionalism.

The BPWH leans heavily toward the side of Kalam or reason, but it decidedly rejects the Atomism, into which reductionistic or analytic thinking quickly descends.

Consider the following article........ http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/arabic-islamic-natural/ and notice, especially, the several references to occasionalism and atomism, therein.......

Yes, this appears to be a very interesting article, in that, in the context of Islam, it emphasizes some very basic philosophical points, points that tend to remain implicit, in most other contexts.......

Natural philosophy, or physics, in the strict sense is the study of natures; however, since by ‘nature’ most medieval natural philosophers meant an internal principle of change or motion that belongs to something essentially, natural philosophy came to be identified more specifically with the study of motion and the conditions purportedly necessary for motion, such as the infinite, place, void and time. Within the medieval Arabic-speaking world there were two primary intellectual traditions in which natural philosophy was done: kalam and falsafa.

Hmmm.........

Although some early Muslim theologians maintained that there is basically only accidents and that bodies are composites of bundles of accidents, while others held that there are only corporeal bodies and that everything else is constituted out of the interpenetration of these bodies, most Muslim theologians included both atoms[1] and accidents in their ontology and additionally God.

it seems to me if I'm understanding this correctly they are perceiving what we call "trial and error" processes as "accidents"? So I take it you are noting here that they have no perception of Synchronicity?

Cy




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