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Post by dan Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:34 pm

First topic message reminder :

First topic message reminder :

This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 5 thread.......

The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
should be substituted here......

Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.  

Thank you.  

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Post by Cuan Scott Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:43 pm

Yes for what it's worth, my personal opinion is that things are definitely up in the air!

Thanks for the update on the GtM.





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Post by Foot Mann Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:46 pm

In the air she is, then in the sea. A bee she is, then on my knee. Back in time she buzzes about, then into the future, not even a shout. In the air they say, but not today. For the Disclosure has yet a price to pay. Cheer him on, a folly most will think, but those who know will see her wink.
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Post by dan Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:06 pm

As I was saying, we may have to upgrade our concept of personhood.......

There is only one soul..... only one person.  

Does that make the rest of us clones......?  

No. Rather, this is about our infinite human potential, just as love is unbounded.

On Earth, we are self-limiting, however.

The main aspect of our unboundedness is interpersonal..... synergistic.

We compromise, then, a crystal with 10^10 facets. Is the sum not greater than it’s parts?



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Post by Cuan Scott Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:17 pm

dan wrote:

There is only one soul..... only one person.  

Does that make the rest of us clones......?  



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Clones doesn't sound too appealing.. unless perhaps, this refers to our true state as opposed to that which we perceive or identify with as the 'I'.

Are we not all family? including the non homo-sapiens?

Aristotle appears to propose that 'anything that lives' has a soul
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Post by dan Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:24 pm

Scott,

Allow me to opine that the ontology of animals is not the same as that of persons.  

I will come back to this point, after completing the present thought on persons.......

Each of us will, seamlessly, become one with God...... simply become God.  That Oneness will constitute our passage to Eternity...... where all times are present to us at once.  

Any aspect of our world is being recapitulated at all times, but without redundancy.  

The Alpha and Omega each contain the other.  The is no repetition.  

Our singular historic circuit is embedded in Eternity.  There is no cycle.  

As there is one soul, there is also one atom.  There is a strong sense in which this primal atom contains the Cosmos.  

Does the Atom contain the Soul, or is it the other way....?

Here we need to speak of the dimensions of time, of which there are at least two...... but let us continue in the morning......


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Post by Cuan Scott Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:49 pm

Dan,

I accept that.

You did kindly highlight before the distinction between sentience and sapience.

Nonetheless, you also did say before that 'Fido gets to go to heaven' ..

As to synergistic, Aaron's recent comment comes to mind 'Teamwork makes the dream work'









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Post by dan Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:35 am

Here’s a rumor that someone might want to check on........

Joe is on the private lecture circuit....... not necessarily talking about gyros, and not necessarily not mentioning Sgt Lopez.  He may not be mentioning the small world, either.  I guess he has lots to not talk about. Well, this is one way to solve the spotlight problem.  Maybe even the best way.  There is at least one corporate sponsor.  Maybe someone should ask how his galaxy is doing.  The Milky Way keeps a low profile...... along with the galactic federation thereof..... hmmm.

Joe is not on the hustings for the small world, but he would like to talk to mama bee, but mama is a pretty busy bee...... chicken little may be the designated consigliere.  The hive keeps a fairly low profile, as well.  

Anyone for kefir and mead?



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Post by Araneidae Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:47 am

Hic tyranus ipse demonstravit quam beatus esset. Nam cum quidam ex eius assentatoribus, Damocles, commemoraret copias eius, maiestatem dominatus, rerum abundantiam, negaretque quemquam umquam beatiorem fuisse, Dionysius "Visne igitur," inquit, "O Damocle, ipse hanc vitam degustare et fortunam meam experiri?" Cum ille se cupere dixisset, hominem in aureo lecto collocari iussit cenam exquisitissimam inferre. Fortunatus sibi Damocles videbatur. Eodem autem tempore Dionysius gladium supra caput eius saeta equina demitti iussit. Damocles, cum gladium vidiseet, timens oravit tyrannum ut ei abire liceret, quod iam "beatus" nollet esse. Satisne Dionysius videtur demonstravisee nihil esse ei beatum cui semper aliqui metus impendeat?

Non potest esse nisi unum?

Et tu Pangloss...

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Post by 99 Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:56 am

Dan, your posts here are getting more and more loopy... am now wondering what area of athletics, that you supposedly excelled in [wink, wink], got you into Yale in the first place? Cornhole? 

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Post by dan Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:06 am

Orb weaver,

Over whom hangs the sword of Disclosure......?  

It might hang over donny, but I think he might just want a free pass.  

Mike.......?  He seems rather innocent...... lucky guy...... we could do a lot worse.  


99,

Yale......?  Please.......!

Well, my dad got a letter for Stanford track.  Is that close enough?  Running was my best sport, but I could never crack the five minute mile.  

Loopy........?

Well, the small world cosmology is pretty loopy...... no fault of my own.

Avoiding the spotlight....... try kefir and mead..... it does induce a certain amount of vertigo.



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Post by 99 Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:37 am

Oh, that's interesting (the Stanford track thing)  but was only joking... no question in my mind that you got into where ever you went, through your own merit.
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Post by dan Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:49 am

Own merit...........?

Now, there is a real joke........!

Let’s see...... is the BPW a meritocracy?  

Hmmm...... the last shall be first........

That sounds like a topsyocracy.  May I get credit for that ?  

I mean....... we do have to give donny credit, where credit is due...... he is introducing the topsyocracy on the global stage...... no mean feat.  

Fools do rush in........ and maybe donny is not quite as foolish as he looks.  

And cornhole.......?  Yes, I may have a hidden talent.  


But where were we.......?

There are quite a few outstanding topics...... and that might be an understatement.  

Perception......?

How many private cosmologies are there?  

Uh oh....... are we getting back to the multiverse?  

Maybe that’s what the topsyocracy is about.......

It may be just another version of the multiverse...... once again, I’m demanding credit!  

How many gold stars can a person accumulate..... in the topsyocracy?  

Maybe we’re gonna find out.  
........


The Alpha and Omega...... the atom and the cosmos........

The Ouroboros......?  Speaking of topsy.......

How did the j-man get so many gold stars?

Did he have a cheat code?  

At what price?  The pearl of great price.......

Button, button.......

It might be a game of faith.  The one with the most faith......

Can you cheat on faith?  Would you want to, if you could?  It verges on the oxymoronic, but still...... grace, grace..... but by the grace....


Buddy is checking out the Joe lecture rumor...... now there’s a rumor..... and he’s claiming to have no problem with the small world..... I guess it’s what comes with the mind-brain problem.  I asked what he thought about Grant, in this regard.  I forget the answer...... it involved politics, if I recall.  

It seems that a lot of folks are keeping their heads down on this one..... it’s a tad spooky.


3:10.........

So how much autonomy can we afford to nature, in the BPW?  

Nature can be a harsh mistress.  

Ugly facts slay beautiful theories........

You don’t say.  


Now we have an APB out for Joe....... he might be in a hospital or on a plane.  Me?  I’m just minding my own business.  

The real question might be..... where is Kevin?  

Or..... what is Kevin up to?  


And, on the other hand, just because truth is beauty, it doesn’t mean that beauty is truth...... does it?  

How much topsy can mama allow.....?  

What is the best possible amount of topsy?  

That sounds like a tough question.  


9:40.......

I have said before..... disclosure is excruciatingly slow...... until it is excruciatingly fast.  There is very unlikely to be a happy medium.  

Controlling the flood gates, after a threshold, would be a fool’s task.  

Yes, there will be a point of no return, for disclosure......  may the Lord have mercy on our souls.

I think that folks will understand that portals are not playthings. We might even be taking a second look at recreational drugs.

Better to exercise our imaginations. Even Hollywood may be challenged.


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"Non Dionysius videtur fecisse et illud satis patet quod nihil potest esse beatus enim homo super quem quidam timor semper imminet?"

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Post by RunningBull Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:57 am

U wrote:"Non Dionysius videtur fecisse et illud satis patet quod nihil potest esse beatus enim homo super quem quidam timor semper imminet?"


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Post by dan Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:31 pm

There is liable to be gotomeeting early tomorrow afternoon, edt.  

We are lacking a name...... I’ve suggested the ‘googa magoogs’.  Aliyah is not thrilled.  

Uncoverup Live..... Holodeck Earth...... We’ve met Them, and They’re Us.  

Welcome to the Millennium......... or to the Hive

You name it.........

Joe might be on the show.  In any case, the focus will be on recent events..... maybe in Brazil/Utah.  

Joe has been giving private talks..... corporate and government sponsored.  Did Joe happen to brief donny?  That too........

Is this a decoy operation led by an outpatient?  Who knows?  If it is a decoy, I’d like to see the real McCoy.  

If Disclosure is moving into the public domain the TTSA operation stands out..... and, if it’s a big world, Hal’s team would win hands down.  If it’s not a big world....... well, there is R,A&D....... and where is the competition?..... nolo contendere.....

Joe may be coming over into the small world camp.  We may soon get to find out.  

Are we the #3 rock from the Sun, or the #1 holodeck?  That’s what it all comes down to.  

I believe most everyone would agree that the concept of portals is heavily weighted toward the holodeck hypothesis.  

Kevin has been collecting pixie dust around the lab..... just saying.  


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For awhile, today, Kevin was not accessible.  Persons may be easier to find from particular access points.  Don’t ask.... it’s above my pay grade.  But Joe should be coming back online, tomorrow. There must be something in that pixie dust.




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Post by Cuan Scott Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:10 pm

Sounds great Dan

If it is decided to open the GtM for OM I'm sure like many here, I will tune in.

Oh, BTW I am starting to see I sense your championing of the J man.








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Post by dan Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:50 pm

Scott,

The GtM is presently scheduled for 2pm edt, tomorrow.  It will be about the lid coming off.  

The rumor is that there has been an authorization to open publicly accessible portals, globally.  

This decision is, formally, a unilateral decision involving the USG, at least in part.

Informally, we are only staying a step ahead of the preordained cosmic process.  

The purpose of the strategic repositioning is to provide a globally accessible prophetic vision concerning these latter days.  Does chicken little take charge?  No, cl might better be regarded as a team mascot, with a script.  It is rather ad hoc.  

This end phase can be the Millennium..... our best possible, most graceful possible exit....... a thousand years if you like.  

The holodeck Earth might be regarded as a pressure cooker.  You have to be cautious when removing the lid of a pressure cooker.  There is a strong tendency for it to simply blow off.  I don’t think we want that.  

The portals have already been operating as a safety valve.  This knowledge will now be coming into the public domain at an accelerated pace...... as the valve continues to open.  

Besides the risk of explosion, there is also the risk of implosion.... invasion......

I have referred to the googa magoogs..... or the juj wa majuj, in Islam...... also Gog and Magog, if you like.  One might think of a zombie apocalypse...... there is likely to be two-way traffic at the portals....... another reason to proceed with caution.  These would be desperate souls, attempting a last minute entry.  

So, there you have it, sports fans....... the lid is coming off.  

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Post by 99 Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:24 pm

Dan wrote:Loopy........? 

Well, the small world cosmology is pretty loopy...... no fault of my own. 

I agree, the cosmos IS loopy and I, afterall, know that very well. For example... lets take betting in Pick 3 or Pick 4 Lottery. 

Due to a rather unorthodox way I do this, which I've had enough success with... here's what happened today. Am only talking about this because I didn't win tonight (it's bad luck to boast about it when one wins but tonight I didn't hence why am talking about it). Anyway, here's what happened:

I asked the cosmos to give me a clue what the Pick 4 evening draw will be. I did that later in the afternoon today.

Then, a little later, I got my wish and got the non-sensical phrase, which was said to me telepathically, "OH, this is an OUT for ME". 

The 2 words that were emphasized to me in that message (that I focused on) where the words "OUT" and "ME". But the first word "OH" was emphasized too ... but in this case I ignored it but shouldn't have... as you will see.

Then what I do is take the corresponding number of the first letter of each of those  emphasized words... in this case, the letters "O" and "M" (this is how my technique works). "O" corresponds to 15 in the alphabet and "M" corresponds to the number 13. 

Ok, so there you have it... I have the four numbers for the Pick 4  evening draw... 1513.

So I go to the store and place a 24 way .50 box  on those numbers.

So then, later on in the evening I check the results of that draw and here's a screen shot of the ticket I bought for that draw and the results as published on the OH lottery site around 8 PM sometime later after the evening draw. 

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As you can see, I missed it by one number and, you got it... it was letter "O" which explains the emphasis of my telepathic message of the word "Oh" too at the beginning of that message from "them". And as I said before, I consciously chose to ignore it and just left it dangling there. Big mistake.

The bottom line, sometimes the universe plays by the rules (which allows me to rake in a little extra pin money) and other times it does not. In this case, a wrench was thrown into the mix to cause me confusion but that's just how things are sometimes.... ya know? 
Yea, I agree... the universe is loopy!

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As a side note: While I was at it... I also wagered a .50 bet in the Pick 3 evening lotto tonight using some of those 4 numbers... in this case 153 ... which turned out to be in the exact order of what the Pick 4 evening draw results were... here's a screenshot of that wager:

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Post by dan Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:49 pm

Please, sports fans...... with greater access to the other side, temptations will increase. There is fools gold at the end of that rainbow.
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Post by 99 Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:37 pm

Unless the money is going to a good cause... if not, then it backfires on you. Secrecy between the giver and the receiver is paramount. Just another universal rule.

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Post by dan Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:33 am

Another suggested title.......

Heaven Can Wait...... just not forever.

Time: 2pm/edt.

Topic: How we share in the consciousness of the Monad.
...........

We know that we breathe the same air.

We are less aware that we live in the same consciousness.  

What do fish know of water?  

Yes, sports fans, space and time are very well supported illusions.  

And, yes, again, there is a lot of fake news, because the only real news comes from nowhere.  

We’ll be exploring nowhere, which, yes, is also now, here.  

The story may take us to Brazil and back.


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Post by Course Catalog Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:26 am

I would assume Heaven isn't all it is cracked up to be if souls are lining up for another go-round on Earth as it stands right now.
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Post by RunningBull Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:44 am

Course Catalog wrote:I would assume Heaven isn't all it is cracked up to be if souls are lining up for another go-round on Earth as it stands right now.
Now is the best time for a soul to come back. So much to learn! Heaven is a poor teacher but a great place to meditate.
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Post by dan Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:06 am

The moral is that heaven can wait, but Earth can’t....... there are many desperate souls, trying to get back in, under the wire.  

The GtM can wait, too, leaving open the Joe option...... who would be a late show.

Kevin has been located, or....... as Siri suggested..... localized...... but he might also not be ready for prime time.  

Standby for the code.......

We may only be able to push the time back by half an hour...... yes, Earth can’t always wait.  

Anyway.......

Reality is the sum of all our theories...... past, present and future.  

The upshot is that most of our theories are (presently) unconscious.  

Also, there are no wrong theories, it’s just that some are more temporally inclined than are others.  

There are just two things..... presence and absence..... and we are both.  

Reality is the arena of clashing schemata..... and we’re not just talking about the social arena, we’re also talking... Anthropics.  

Reality is like a Venn diagram...... the central overlap contains Anthropics and the Logos.  

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Post by 99 Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:28 am

The 22nd anniversary of the "ascension"  of Heaven's Gate is just around the corner. Only mentioning this because all of this talk about exiting the matrix is reminding me of that group and their method of doing that. How tragic... That group is a disturbing reminder to us of how far things can go so horribly wrong with cults.... especially religious ones.

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