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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:58 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    And, wait again, how does egolessnes differ from being born again.....?  

    It differs only superficially.  The form may appear very different, but not the underlying cause.

    Personal realization of truth.........?

    I’m arriving back in Baltimore.........
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:42 pm

    If it’s not yours, then whose is it?

    Philosophy, nor knowledge, remove the natural experience of grief, pain, fear or love.

    Who says we should stop anyone’s suffering?

    Who is to say death can only be such and such?

    I feel people suffer by choice.

    I know it’s true by experience.

    Who can inflict suffering on anyone?

    Suffering and evil are part of this show.

    It won’t be removed, only balanced.

    No one wins.

    We all die.

    So, who is in conflict?

    Who is suffering?

    We can’t put human values on these things and think we understand anything.

    You simply don’t.

    Nor do I.

    They don’t need to be understood or explained from a certain point of view.

    Indeed, the feeling is Human, but we can’t really know what it means, so we settle for relativity and an eye for an eye, or some imagined afterlife of eternity.

    We already have eternity, again, from a certain point of view.

    Everyone should be humbled in light of this.

    It’s humbling and limited to be human.

    I happen to love and revel in that.

    Some have accepted and many have not.

    Here is to a lessening of tribalism and belief with the cracking of the world.

    Here is to the letting go of your story.

    We needed the past.

    But we don’t live there.
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    Post by Cyrellys Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:49 pm

    Dan Smith wrote:A particular role of these portals is to act as safety valves for letting off the psychic pressure that has been building up in the world in anticipation of our Revelation and the commencement of our Millennial Rapture. Yes, the Rapture will be one way for us to let off steam, as we begin accessing the portals.

    So is this part sourced from you or from the Pandolfis?


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    Post by dan Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:08 pm

    Not to worry, Cy, everything I’ve said is deniable.

    The Pandolfi’s do not discuss concepts with me. This is all about concepts. Most of us will never see a portal in our lifetimes. They cannot even be photographed. Think about all those photographs of ghosts. No you will not see a portal on the front page of the Times...... maybe on the second page. There will be increasing rumors of portals. Most of us will be able to remember when we first took a second look.
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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:21 pm

    The Princess and the Pod were One, sized for Comfort and for Fun. Expanding to Contain them All, as they Escape before the Fall. There is room for Dan to come along, as GoGo he must be Strong. Listen now for He will Say, the path to follow or be a Stray.
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:28 pm

    Stragglers.......?  

    The last shall be first, and the first will be last.  

    You may take that to the bank.

    Sometimes the captain deserts the ship, but not this time.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:50 pm

    No escape for me I’m afraid.

    It’s terminal.

    I’m a goner Wink

    For any Christians also wanting to follow this path to no-self, great book.

    Help you it will.

    The Path to No-Self: Life at the Center

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/0791411427/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_rXxuAbNMEDF8B
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    Post by painterdoug Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:58 pm

    Dan    definitions always good.

    and perhaps this /

    "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein


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    Dan,  you and others are exceeding in the offering of concepts.  I just think we should distill all down to simplicity if possible.


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    Post by dan Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:59 pm

    Right you are, smelly.........

    I don’t think we’ll be storming the gates of heaven.  Once we realize we have that option, we’ll be able to pay much better attention on how we live our lives here.

    This will be how we will construct God’s Kingdom.



    At your service, Doug.......

    Please make a stab at a concept, and I’ll try to add my two cents.
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    Post by Cyrellys Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:40 pm

    garzparz wrote:No escape for me I’m afraid.

    It’s terminal.

    I’m a goner Wink

    For any Christians also wanting to follow this path to no-self, great book.

    Help you it will.

    The Path to No-Self: Life at the Center

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    @garzparz: story behind stories --



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    Post by RandomSample Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:39 pm

    [quote="dan"]Yes, we’re all going to be getting a crash course in portal phenomena, on the local and global level.

    Assuming crash position!

    (Please "give me the brake!".... first post!


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    Post by jofo Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:44 pm

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    no better time to be present
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    Post by dan Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:42 am

    There are two issues that we might ponder this morning........

    1.)  the magnitude of disclosure

    2.) the follow on from the nyt article

    I believe that these two issues are not unrelated.  Nay, they are liable to be largely correlated.  

    Ufologists uniformly underrate the potential impact of what is to be revealed.  I remain the only eschatologist within sight.  Even R&A, barely grasp the topic, even though Kashmir’s assessment is largely correct..... seriously, gogo.......

    No.  Our small world is eternal.  More accurately it is finite, but is embedded within eternity.  It is not going away, but we are.  We have a rendezvous with Source..... yes, with God.  



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    Post by painterdoug Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:06 am

    99/   but not now and not here in Dan’s thread.

    thanks 99  but could you possibly offer where and when?  

    i do know what you are referring to by my own experience


    and DAN, these are two good topics for us to ponder. will do! thanks
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    Post by 99 Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:12 am

    Sorry Doug. Once again, this is Dan's thread and there's a method to his madness that needs to be honored in his presentation of the information that he's sharing here on portals. I, in no way, want to interfere with that. And besides that, i'm sure there's information that's coming up that I don't know about so I'm in suspense about that as much as everybody else here is.
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    Post by dan Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:15 am

    99,

    I look forward to learning more.  Yes, there probably should be other threads to focus on the particulars.  I try to keep the focus, in this thread, on the larger picture.  

    I trust that your personal experiences will provide you an additional perspective for an informed critique of the BPWH.  I’m looking forward to it.

    I will always need to keep reminding us that I’m not an insider with regard to disclosure.  If anything, I’m an outsider.  Yes, I’m jealous of a personal relationship with R&A, but, as you notice, I maintain a cognitive distance.  

    Yes, 99, your phrase.... ontological shock.... will be crucial to grasping what will be happening to and around us.  

    We did have a mild preview of the impending MoAPS with the Copernican revolution.  

    The Copernican Revolution was no small potatoes.  It was as if God had, quite suddenly, forsaken us.  Well, in retrospect, I think we’ll understand that God was, in fact, pulling up stakes and moving indoors.  On the outside it was still a big shock.

    Externally, God died on the cross.  In fact, through the j-man, God was imploding into us.  Now, we return the favor..... we explode into the Monad.  One day, we are a cancer upon a planet.  The next day, we are a chrysalis of the Monad, about to take flight.  Those portals..... they are the doors of our hangar, opening onto our runway.  

    Bon voyage......


    As a side note, there is sure to be more than a little pushback against anything smelling of sectarianism.  Yes, the BPWH has that odor.  

    Do I have an excuse..... a rationale?  

    My rationale is that personalism is logically entailed by the small world hypothesis.  

    Also, there is the historical fact that it was only the followers of j who bothered to push back against the Copernicans.  But, by now, almost uniformly, the j people have thrown in the towel, on the SWH.  

    Hmmm....... it’s smelling like a setup.  

    It is a setup...... for personalism.  And I’ll never be able to apologize sufficiently for having to be the poi.  What’s a body to do?

    This incident might help to explain the Christians’ dilemma.  


    3:15..........

    Yes, it is ironic that Eric Garza, with all his alleged training in self-control, is the one who is flying into a rage.  I’m sure he will say that it is just an act.  But if it is an act, it is only superficially so.  He fancies himself as a Buddha killer, but he can’t even kill his own rage...... rage at what?...... the Monad?


    But, yes, all history has been a setup for the Revelation that is about to unfold....... slowly, Nunia, slowly......

    This gives those of us watching all the more opportunity to second guess and, yes, critique the process.  This is by us, for us, and about us, after all.  

    ............
    From the PoV of the BPWH, I would suggest that Eric is providing cover for the rest of us.  Yes, if this is anything, it is a stealth operation, being conducted in plain sight.  Or, we are digging for treasure, and Eric is our canary bird.  Yes, we will run into seams of toxic gas.  
    .......

    Science is personalism...... backwards........

    It has built up our egos mightily, while stealing our spirit.  It has corralled our spirit by inflating our egos.

    But not to fear, Spirit can bide its time.  Its time has come...... through the portals.  

    All of this.... science, Eric, etc..... is part of the plan.  Eric is all about going with the flow, but if the flow departs from his comfort zone, he will kick and scream.  There will be more than enough screamers along this path.  A large part of managing the magic will be to manage the screamers.  


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    Post by 99 Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:20 am

    The only thing I'm interested in now Dan is processing the information that you are trickling to us as each day goes by. All I wanted to do is remind people out there that they need to equip themselves spiritually in such a way that it's beyond reproach. Someday, when I feel it's time for me to share what information I have on the personal front, I will do that in another thread if I think it contributes to the BPWH.
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    Post by painterdoug Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:40 am

    99 yes I am very aware that it is Dans thread and I respect that.

    but you introduced this very interesting info and so I asked if a time or place .

    no worries, things are coming one way or another I'm sure

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    Post by 99 Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:47 am

    Doug, Dan already touched on that. There are more and more portals that are opening up now more than ever before. So as for the 'time', it's happening now as we speak. This is why we need to be talking about portals now. Dan and A&R are absolutely right about that.
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    Post by @awestruckt Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:05 am

    Dan, based on the totality of your knowledge on this topic and interactions with R/A, any educated guess as to how long until your average person on the street will be aware of the MoAPS? That this stuff will be water-cooler talk in the mainstream? I think that is what I am longing for—it is disappointing the apparent inverse proportionality between the importance of a given topic and the relative amount spent discussing said topic(s) in “society”....
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    Post by painterdoug Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:21 am

    99   WELL ,  Dan and I know up front and "personal" that  P A is not interested in sharing disclosing illuminating anyone on the topic.  it was made very clear.  

    so who has gone thru? who has experienced? who can share fact with all?

    we need to get to this.///


    smelly G I was waiting... just waiting... lol


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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:22 am

    There is nothing ‘out there’ 99, so I’m not sure what in the world you are talking about.

    Shrug.

    Meanies?

    Look in the mirror.

    Anything keeping to the ufo myths is a fade, a dodge.

    Look deeper.

    Look inside yourself.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:27 am

    99, you have shown me no evidence you are realized or aware Wink

    I reached end game, death will put a cherry on it soon enough, so all these things other than dissolution are funny to read.

    So I will play with you.

    I wil fiercely push back on mythological bullshit.

    And hinting about secret info is also not appreciated.

    What is your experience relating to Disclosure?

    Period.

    People’s views, beliefs or opinions here in my opinion are distractions and irrelevant, haha.

    Thanks for the song Cy, I think.

    What is your experience?

    That’s just the start.

    The test here, step beyond ufos into yourself.

    The Truth isn’t found in your knowledge and experience, only in letting go of your story.

    So people who promote their experience and knowledge, aren’t leading anyone anywhere except deeper into their own story.

    Which you will have to let go of to continue forward.

    Who’s ready?

    Who is ready to drop the sham?

    Who is ready to say they don’t know and don’t care?

    Who is ready to see this is all a setup?
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    Post by dan Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:51 am

    Eric,

    Cease and desist...... now.

    But, yes, this is a setup, if you will restrain your bully-boy persona, so that a may continue the explanation, above.

    Thank you for your cooperation. Please go read Osho, if you cannot act civilly.


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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:52 am

    Wink

    If you are not pissing people off, you just aren’t doing it right.

    Not my intent, I see it just happens.

    My joy.

    Delicious.

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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:22 am

    I’m always civil.

    Please continue your dialogue.

    I reserve the right to call bullshitz.

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