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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Hello(this one is for the forum owners)

Post by kraven on Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:13 pm

First topic message reminder :

Hello,

I am kraven from urubin.com. Recently through a friend who is also an admin on my forums I got the old url for this forum and on there a rar file of the old forum was put up for downloading(Which I did)

I noticed that this forum is missing all the old posts and threads as well as the memberbase.

If you would like I could remedy that situation by restoring the old forum on one of my servers enabling you to access it once again and either import the stuff into this one or vice versa or at least be able to send word out to the old members, where you are located now.

If you would like that simply hit me up at kraven at inbox dotcom and we can discuss how to proceed.

And if you aren't interested that's fine too, then I won't do anything with the file. Just wanted to let you all know I have it and I have the means to restore it in case you would like to make use of it.

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Re: Hello(this one is for the forum owners)

Post by Admin on Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:02 pm

TheGray wrote:
TheGray wrote:
Admin wrote:
Welcome to OMF TheGray!

I was wondering if by some chance I might know you? I used to know a MrGrey over at BlackVault.

Cyrellys

sorry I was never a member of The BlackVault Cool but I also know a MrGrey Very Happy
During my 13 months hitchhiking through the U.S. I met him, I think he was a DJ or something like that Wink

That was back in 1983/1984 of course Laughing

I hear you, lol. Back in 1983/1984 I was still entertaining my self by mortifying my father with the wearing of blue finger nail polish, ratting my hair, and singing Cindy Lauper songs at the top of my lungs as I plowed through an old copy of a Tesla journal thinking the MENSA kids hadn't a clue who Tesla even was, let alone have an appreciation.

Most of those kids made great house-wives and cubical weights while my early nineties were spent as an apprentice in the Theory of Knowledge and as an observer to a communication that ended about as badly as one can get.

Shrug. Grin. Life as an electro-magnet is more enlightening than dishsoap and drano.

Cyrellys


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Post by TheGray on Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:11 pm

Wink And now we have the internet Wink and many more opportunities to communicate Very Happy


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More opportunities than headhunters can deal with. Very Happy

Especially when evolution is the name of the game.

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Post by TheGray on Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:19 pm

this one I suppose Razz



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Post by TheGray on Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:23 pm

time is going faster than a blink of the eye Smile


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Post by TheGray on Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:34 pm

I must now take a nap, but tomorrow I'll be back: P
in the Netherlands, it is now 1:35 Wink good night sweet dreams ............


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Post by Admin on Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:37 pm

TheGray wrote:time is going faster than a blink of the eye Smile

Agreed. I'm old enough now I no longer have to pull the silver hairs out at their roots or make excuses for the ones I missed. lol.

How about this one?



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Re: Hello(this one is for the forum owners)

Post by Admin on Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:38 pm

TheGray wrote:I must now take a nap, but tomorrow I'll be back: P
in the Netherlands, it is now 1:35 Wink good night sweet dreams ............

tomorrow then. Good night.


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Re: Hello(this one is for the forum owners)

Post by Admin on Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:57 pm

Well here's our impetus for additional dissemination of the Archive to servers outside the country: http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7666

thorough reading it's info packed, although not a whole lot I didn't already know via other sources myself. But its current like he said.



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Re: Hello(this one is for the forum owners)

Post by Jake Reason on Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:32 am

Admin wrote:Hey Jake,

I just read the copyright page at Kraven's site. In what way is this a problem? It only says they are in favor of universal information sharing across sites with attribution. Meaning if you repost something just leave a link to the original source. This isn't anything different than what we already do here at OMF. Did I miss something? I had the copyright page translated by google.

I wrote "may" conflict. Copyrights are important for many reasons. Universal information sharing is a separate issue. Hosting a forum should not present a copyright issue. Only operating one, as we do here, would present a copyright issue.

I brought it up in order to clarify Kraven's intentions. That's all.



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Post by Admin on Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:22 am

Jake Reason wrote:
Admin wrote:Hey Jake,

I just read the copyright page at Kraven's site. In what way is this a problem? It only says they are in favor of universal information sharing across sites with attribution. Meaning if you repost something just leave a link to the original source. This isn't anything different than what we already do here at OMF. Did I miss something? I had the copyright page translated by google.

I wrote "may" conflict. Copyrights are important for many reasons. Universal information sharing is a separate issue. Hosting a forum should not present a copyright issue. Only operating one, as we do here, would present a copyright issue.

I brought it up in order to clarify Kraven's intentions. That's all.




Agreed. I'm under the current understanding we're discussing additional hosting of one of the Archive copies, out of country as part of the content safe guarding and enhancing ease of access, only at this time. I do not currently see an imperative for altering the operating forum at this time.


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Re: Hello(this one is for the forum owners)

Post by Admin on Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:25 am

On an additional note for reference, we still hold an invitation for emergency relocation of the operating forum to a patriot/oathkeeper community maintained and secured server should we run into catastrophic difficulty again.

Edit to add: As far as the operating forum goes, my preference has been for it to remain on neutral ground if at all humanly possible so as to keep the sting out of visitation for those wishing the opportunities it offers.



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Re: Hello(this one is for the forum owners)

Post by pman35 on Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:31 pm

some question as to the actuality of the 'missing' data ?

What data is meant to be missing


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Post by TheGray on Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:32 pm

animal2012 wrote:some question as to the actuality of the 'missing' data ?

What data is meant to be missing

I do not know, maybe the e-mail list scratch


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Re: Hello(this one is for the forum owners)

Post by pman35 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:30 am

Whats been happening then with the "offshore account for omf"


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