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Post by 99 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:32 pm

The other night I was visited by what looked like a full materialization of a Tall White Grey that was wearing a red mask over its eyes. I have seen the backside of this, or another similar being, before in the past just as I was entering my bedroom one time where it was exiting via my walk-in closet. This happened last year a few months after my son saw what sounded like a Tall White that was standing next to a tree in his dad's back yard. He was looking out a window in his dad's house when he saw it.


But back to what happened a few nights ago. By the time I climbed into bed that night, I was already hearing those noises that I always hear whenever there are unseen presences around. Those who experience the same kind of thing know what I'm talking about. In this case though, there was also a low vibrating almost motor-like sound too ... hard to describe but this was not the first time I've ever heard something like that.


There was also an odor in the room that was gradually building up. It's a very unpleasant one that smells like rotting meat and I've experienced this kind of thing a number of times before in the past. But even though all of this was going on, I was not expecting anything to show up because most of the time nothing goes beyond what I just described above. And when that odor comes.. I just light up some incense and do a quick banishing prayer for everything to stop... and usually it does though it may take a half hour or a little longer till it does. But sometimes that odor will linger on for a lot longer so I've had that happen too but usually it stops after I do a banishing.


So I was laying there in bed, debating whether or not to jump back out and get an incense stick to light up on my night stand to get rid of it after doing a banishing. I was wide awake tossing and turning but I needed to get a good nights sleep because I had a busy day ahead of me.


So I'm laying there on my side facing the wall where I then flip over to my other side that faces the door and just when I was doing that, when I opened my eyes, I saw a Tall White standing there by the side of my bed looking down at me where it then cocked its head to the side and then disappeared. It looked very solid... so much so, it did not look like anything I could put my hand through. But it was wearing a semi-transparent red cover over it's eyes so I can't describe what they looked like for that reason though except that they looked slanted. I had a red light bulb in my lamp on the table next to my bed and it seemed like the covering over that beings eyes had taken on the color of the light of that lamp. It was not wearing anything... it was all white but I could detect what looked like a mouth. It also seemed to have a 'hair-do', that I could only see the outline of but, strangely enough, it looked like an old ladies kind of 'poof-do'. That's the first thing that came to my mind when I saw that.
Below is a sketch of it that I drew out later that same night. I only saw it for a few seconds but long enough to see some of its details.



The first thing I said when I saw it was "OMG!“ It startled me, of course but everything happened so quickly, I didn't have time to really react but as soon as it disappeared, I sprang out of bed and lit up some incense... then I stayed up for the rest of the night where I finally turned back in again around 4 in the morning.


More on the covering over its eyes:
It looked like a semi-transparent fabric but it also looked like the area just below the ‘fabric’ that was over its eyes was smeared with red paint... and there were tiny red dots too. On the other hand, it could be that it was not paint at all ... maybe that part of its face was soaking in or reflecting the red light from the lamp which indicates that there was differentiation in the surface composition or texture between the area around its eyes and the rest of its face that remained just as white as the rest of it.


When it cocked its head to the side, it looked like it smiled. But what’s weird about this is that last year, a reptilian being popped in one night, just as I was walking into my bedroom where it too cocked its head the same way and smiled too.


So are they the same beings and is it some kind of shape-shifter that first showed up looking like a reptilian where it now is showing up looking like a Tall White? Or is it just a coincidence that both beings did the same thing when they popped in?


Also, I’ve never seen a Tall White in any of my lucid dreams or regular dreams for that matter or in any of mind’s eye visions while meditating. But because my son saw the same kind of being standing next to a tree last year which was the first time he had ever seen anything so out of the ordinary like that, one that he described as a tall “man” that was completely white, and because, since then, I’ve seen it twice, I think it’s connected in some way to both of us. However, having said this, I’m very frightened for my son because if he saw it one time... does that mean that he’s going to see it again sometime? But there are a lot of other things I’m concerned about too that I will not go into now.


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It could be that it already knew that that one reptilian being cocked its head and smiled when it appeared to me that one time so “it”, the Tall White”, did the same thing perhaps to let me know that it knew what happened during that incident.


And just another thought about why it had it’s eye’s covered when it showed up the other night... it could be that it knew that it would frighten me too much if I saw its eyes hence why it had them covered. But another reason why it had them covered could mean that its eyes are very sensitive to red light.


Of course, the big question I’m asking about all of this is what’s going on here? What is the purpose of such visitations and what is the message they are trying to convey to me? In the meantime, because of this most recent visit, I will be keeping a loaded camera nearby just in case “it” shows up again. I will also be taking pics even if I sense it is around me at any given time.

I forgot to say that "it" seemed to be glowing from the inside.

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The Smile:
It was a Cheshire cat kind of smile, not unlike the same one that that reptilian gave me when it popped in last year only that ones smile was much creepier. The Tall White seemed toothless whereas the Reptilian had a mouth full of spiked teeth...

I couldn't tell what it's age was but I assumed it was a male even though there was no way to tell what its sex was. Nor did I get any kind of telepathic message either. When it showed up, it was moving its arms and seemed to sway a bit so it was not just standing there straight and still. It was tall with a very long neck and bent over a little too while it was looking down at me giving me the impression that his body was very flexible. But when I see things like this, it takes me days to process it. I mean, even if I saw stuff like this all the time, I will never get used to it... it's just too waaaay out there. And I can honestly say that I feel very isolated when I have such experiences like this because I don't know anyone else who is currently having them. Sure, there are those who have had experiences of seeing ET-like beings years ago, but no one that I know who is currently having such face to face encounters like I have been over the past few years now. And by encounters, I mean with beings that are showing up in what look like full materialization's when one is wide awake and is not in any altered state of consciousness.
At any rate, I wonder what's going on? One the reasons why I'm making such a fool out of myself by posting all of this stuff is because maybe my own current experiences are just a prelude for what's coming up. Maybe our visitors are going to start showing up the way they are showing up for me to more and more people so as to acclimate the general population about the reality of their existence.
I guess time will tell but I'm always on the look out for new people who have never had any ET encounters before who then report in forums like this one that they have seen a full materialization of one appear in front of them very recently. From there I would like to compare notes. But once again, I definitely think that 'they' are getting ready to reveal themselves if not on a mass scale, at least on a one on one basis. But they will probably first only show up to those who will be able to emotionally handle such encounters as I can't see that they would appear, out of the blue, to those who they suspect would end up having an emotional break-down of some sort due to such encounters of them.
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Re: My Second Visitation of a Tall White Grey

Post by Cyrellys on Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:08 pm

Hi 99, great detail on your experience. Quick question? About the Tall White, which definition of Tall White are you referring to? Is it the Grey type, a human/grey hybrid type, or the Charles Hall type?

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Post by 99 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:26 pm

The Grey type. I'm to find out that those Tall Whites that Charles Hall encountered are a different species and are one that, so far, only Hall has interacted with.

I just found this out and didn't know that before but now I do. So the ones me and my son saw were Tall White Greys.

They look different too. The Tall White Grey has a longer neck and there is less of a distance between the top of the shoulder and the armpit than how Hall's Tall Whites look at least according to the image of those Tall Whites seen on the cover of Hall's book.

I could not really see the eyes of the one that popped in the other night at my place but Hall's Tall Whites had blue and pink eyes... Tall White Grey's have black eyes. So that's another difference between the two types. Plus, I think, Hall's Tall Whites showed up wearing clothes but that is not always the case with Tall White Greys.
As for what, to me, looked like hair on the one that I saw, I have read encounter stories of greys having hair in some cases... or rather, hybrid greys. So the one I saw could have been a hybrid... either that or it was wearing some some kind of head covering where the outline of it around its head 'looked' like a 'hair-do'.

There was definitely that awful odor/smell that many experiencers have reported when in the presence of Greys. I don't know if that is the same case with Hall's Tall White's. Will see if there's anything on the internet about that.
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Post by Bard on Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:28 pm

99 wrote:The Grey type.
As for what, to me, looked like hair on the one that I saw, I have read encounter stories of greys having hair in some cases... or rather, hybrid greys. So the one I saw could have been a hybrid... either that or it was wearing some some kind of head covering that 'looked' like a 'hair-do'.

My first feeling was the Grey-type.


How long did the encounter last for you from start to finish and how did the ‘vanishing’ progress? Same goes for your son’s tree incident? How old is he and how familiar is he with the phenomenon in general?

Do you think you can fool them (take a picture of them) when they can hear your thoughts?

You said: “Of course, the big question I’m asking about all of this is what’s going on here? What is the purpose of such visitations and what is the message they are trying to convey to me?”

This is just mere speculation on my part – but seems appropriate. The reply to that question might be: Is this your burning bush!? Yes, we smiled and creeped you out, but still you remain.

The banishing that you do - Do you believe it works because they are spiritual beings fleeing from prayers intentions or physical beings complying with your intentions? Is this mainly a way to comfort yourself?

Could it be a shape shifter? I suppose. Would you rather have a spiritual one or a technologically aided one in your midst?

Which one would worry you less? Truly ponder this…


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Post by 99 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:18 pm

My first feeling was the Grey-type.

Whenever I think of Tall Whites, I automatically refer to those abduction stories about abductees' seeing both types of greys on their ships. As for Hall's Tall Whites, I've always assumed they were a hybrid of tall white greys but apparently that's not what they are. Anyway, I just found this out yesterday.


How long did the encounter last for you from start to finish and how did the ‘vanishing’ progress?

It was there for about 5 to 7 seconds and it popped out. It was not a gradual fading or anything like that.

Same goes for your son’s tree incident? How old is he and how familiar is he with the phenomenon in general?

He was 22 when he saw it. He said that it was a man who was all white and so were his clothes. I asked him what he was wearing and he said that it looked like a white shirt and white pants -- so they were two separate pieces. I asked him if the mans head was larger than normal and he didn't notice. As for the man's facial features, he said he couldn't really make them out and this included his eyes but whatever the case may be, he said he looked human except that he was all white. He also said that the 'man' was looking directly at him so he must have seen that it had eyes to say something like that. I will be asking him about this again but apparently the 'man' looked in every way human except that he was all white... and that freaked him out. I'm going to ask him how long the man was there. I asked that before but I can't recall what he said about that.

My son is not 'into' UFO/ETs and does not know anything, as far as I know about the different kinds of ETs out there except the small grey. I'm guessing he probably knows about Reptilians too but he and I have never talked about any of this stuff. All he knows about me is that I saw a couple of UFOs back in 2005. If he was well read on these topics I would tell him about my ET encounter experiences but I don't tell him about them or any other members of my family because I don't want them to think I'm nuts. lol

However, there's more to all of this too concerning my son and it's got to do with his very active dream life while growing up. I've been holding off talking about that to him but now that he's a young adult I think I will gently ease into that topic with him sometime soon, but until then, I can't say anything more about that.

But back to the man by the tree, just moments ago I remembered Strieber saying in his book "Transformation", about seeing a room full of humans who are all white wearing white coveralls in that book. I will look that up again for the details on that and will post that information here. So maybe it was one of them instead of a Tall White Grey. Hmmm, I need to process this more but I read about that last year after my son told me what he saw and it really blew my mind because they matched up so closely to what my son saw. At the time when my son told me what he saw, it never even occurred to me that it was a Tall White Grey and quite frankly, I didn't know what to make of it until I saw the back-side of a tall white being exiting my bedroom via my closet where I automatically thought it was a Tall White. It was not wearing any clothes though but I still connected it to what my son saw.

Do you think you can fool them (take a picture of them) when they can hear your thoughts?

It would be entirely up to 'it' if it will allows me to take a snap-shot of it or not. Because it flashed in and out so quickly though, there's no way I would be able to do that. 'It' would have to stick around longer for me to take a pic of it. On the other hand though, I already know that some of them (other kinds) can show up on film even when I can't see them. So for this reason, it's worth a try to just point the cam to a wall and make a vid recording to then see what shows up. So that's another thing I will try out should I get any indications that they are around.

You said: “Of course, the big question I’m asking about all of this is what’s going on here? What is the purpose of such visitations and what is the message they are trying to convey to me?”

This is just mere speculation on my part – but seems appropriate. The reply to that question might be: Is this your burning bush!? Yes, we smiled and creeped you out, but still you remain.

Hmmm, it does sounds like they have too much time on their hands if they pop in and out like that just to say Boo! but it DOES seem like that's all they are doing. And that's kind of unsettling when you think about it. However, time will tell if things evolve beyond that. If 'it' allows itself to show up on film then this will indicate something more.


The banishing that you do - Do you believe it works because they are spiritual beings fleeing from prayers intentions or physical beings complying with your intentions? Is this mainly a way to comfort yourself?

It's all of the above and thanks for bringing this up. However, because the light of the lamp was red where 'its' covering that was over its eyes reflected that indicates to me that it was manifesting to me in the physical. And, as I said before, it could have been wearing that cover over its eyes because it is sensitive to red light or maybe any light coming from a light bulb hence why they only show up at night when it's dark. That it also looked completely physical is another plus point on that one.

Could it be a shape shifter? I suppose. Would you rather have a spiritual one or a technologically aided one in your midst?

I mentioned before that maybe it was just mimicking what had happened when that reptilian showed up that one time. That these beings are known to be able to read our minds presents the possibility that it was not just a shape shifter.

Because the red light was reflecting off of it, I'm not ruling out that it may have popped in via their own technology to be able to do that. But then again, I know that spiritual beings have their own etheric technology to zap into our own dimension too.

At any rate, I want more proof that supports the ETH. This most recent incident is lending some proof to it.


Which one would worry you less? Truly ponder this…

Negative spiritual beings have the potential to do much more harm because they can possess humans.

Physical beings can't do that. So the spiritual 'only' ones, in my view are much more dangerous.Spiritual beings can in fact manifest physically into our dimension for a short duration of time and for this reason it would be fair to call them interdimensional too. But their main locale is in the non-physical realms, not the physical.

The main locale for transdimensional beings could be in the physical realm and by nature they are physical beings, not spiritual.

Also, just because a being is transdimensional via their technology, does not mean that they have the same supernatural abilities that a purely spiritual being has. They would not be able to possess humans, for example but of course, I don't know for sure if that's true or not.


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Post by Bard on Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:58 pm

99 -


Regarding the tree incident:

What time of day/night was it? What month did it fall in? Distance to the person in white? The only reason I ask is that – it does seem rather odd that a male in general would wear all white, especially in an outdoor setting. There are a couple situations that come to mind that would – healthcare, painters, and possibly some covering for utility workers/dirty jobs that would require a clean layer. Just thoughts.

Probably best to spend some time with him on those childhood dreams. Approach it more from a neutral data collector. That age group can be quite fickle about exploring such things - instead they seem drawn to experience the world as extroverts. Self reflection within a new found freedom takes a back seat, generally.

The red covering over the face – is odd I must admit. Your artist skill are part of the image?

Visitations generally, if they are to be believed, are not continuous. They come is stages. Why stages? Is it an inquiry as to ones progression?

Only one person comes to my mind that claims continual contact/connection/communication. I cannot disprove that nor do I think that it would be beneficial to do so. Is it possible, yes? Is it likely, No? If you were to lay the measuring stick down from the mass of those claiming to have had such experiences – it would fall far outside the norm – as if any of these discussions are ‘normal’. Is it Best to focus on your experience and not waste personal progress on debating such things? Probably so.

The most frustrating aspect we must accept here is that the nature of this enigma is so ethereal – so outside of what is explainable in rational terms that most grasp its meaning in very prosaic fashion. Most people are always looking for a right or a wrong instead of the in-between – that which is required to bring them both together.

Join the crazy club, 99, with a healthy dose of reason.



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Post by 99 on Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:29 am

I will ask him those questions next time I see him.

Now reading the rest of your post and will comment later. Thanks for your reply!

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IMHO... all of us are still in the pioneer era concerning evaluations of the abduction phenomenon, including those narratives by ET experiencers, ET contactee's and ET channelers.

There is a lot we still don't know about this demographic but as time goes by where more and more people out there are willing to come out of the woodwork and tell their story, we will undoubtedly find many more variations in the 'experiencer' narrative than we presently have. Right now, only a small number of people are even on the internet talking about their ET encounters. And because there are very, very few professional therapists out there who have specialized in this area who have also written books on their findings, we are still only talking about a very small number of people who were even willing to go to those professionals to seek insight on their ET experiences.

Because of the very small sample rate of those who fall within that demographic who have come forward to talk online or privately to those researchers, for us to make any sweeping generalizations on any aspect of the ET experiencer phenomenon based on the information that that small sample has shared with the public in some way, either directly or indirectly, is extremely premature.

Also, as for the classic abduction narrative, researchers in that field claim that abductions of those types stopped back in the 80's. The vast majority of abductees' in that category are now in their late 40's, 50's and 60's. The classic abduction phenomenon seems to have only lasted over the course of 3 decades, the 50's, 60's and 70's and maybe into the early 80’s where abductees’ were then having their last visits by their abductors ; after that, with the exception of a few cases here and there, it basically stopped. 'They' got their eggs and so on... women then were visited at certain stages in their lives but then once they got to menopause, most of them were no longer visited.

So now, 30 years later where we are well into a new century, people are still having encounters of ETs but of a different kind. The classic abduction phenomenon that Mack, Jacobs and Hopkins focused on is long gone... and thank G-d for that!

But because of this, it makes it harder for the researcher of more recent accounts by ET experiencers to be able to find a common thread running through each one of them because unlike how it was with the Classic Abduction Phenomenon where we were seeing many similarities in each of those narratives, the contemporaneous ET encounter experience bears little resemblance to how things were before. I mean sure, we are still seeing “the frightening kind” and the “friendly kind” but now we are also seeing the “ET acclimation kind” only without the sex and everything that came with that seen in those cases that fell into the Classic Abduction Phenomenon narrative.

Another big change that’s taken place over the past decade or so is that ET channelers are not calling themselves channelers anymore and instead are saying that they are contactee’s who receive information from their ET contacts via telepathy. Apparently the term “channeler” fell out of vogue sometime in the late 90’s. There are still a few out there who are still calling themselves that, but most are not.
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Post by pman35 on Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:12 pm

Hi 99 always good to hear from you. I have a question i would like u to ask your alien friend and it is simply this Are they future seerer or past dwellers?

Thanks for this account I have a few other questions I will ask Smile


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Post by 99 on Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:26 pm

If I get some kind of an answer on that, it will be communicated to me either through a lucid dream or when I am meditating. I would like to know the answer to your question too. I doubt I will get it directly from the being who showed up last week, and if I did, I would be very surprised; but if I get anything at all, I will post it here.
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Post by 99 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:52 am

Just thought I would extrapolate more my most recent encounter experience that I'm talking about in this thread...

Does anyone have any any idea what it's like to turn around or glance over or open their eyes only to see something there that's totally unexpected and how it catches you completely off-guard and by surprise to the extent that it STARTLES so much that you JOLT off the ground or off your chair or up into mid-air if you're laying down when that happens no matter what it is that is there? And can you imagine if its something that's so bizarre, like a strange creature as opposed to say... a normal human being, how much MORE of a jolt one would have in such a situation? That's what I experienced last week when that tall white grey was there when I opened my eyes while I was flipping over to my other side in my bed. I mean, truth be told, when I saw 'it', I nearly had a heart attack because that's just how SHOCKING it was to see something like that standing by my bed! I said before that I said "OMG" when I saw it and in fact I did, but truth be told, just the unexpectedness of it being there when I opened my eye's was, and who I reacted to that was, quite frankly priceless. lol. Just thought I would mention this

.Yes, the 'startle'. It's an instinctual 'fight or flight' response. Most say it's a reaction to being suddenly ‘scared out of your wits', but in my case, it's more like one of complete unadulterated shock and surprise. For one split second, your body goes into auto-pilot. It jerks, it jumps and your heart feels like it just lurched from your chest to your throat. I remained in 'surprise-mode the whole time when I was looking at it but the fear only came in just after it had already popped out and disappeared because by that time I had enough time to intellectually process what it was that I was looking at.

But no question about it, it was fear that caused me to immediately jump out of bed and run out of that room like a 'bat outta hell'. I admit that. And I’m embarrassed to even say that I then switched on every light in my apartment and grabbed my tennis racket out of the coat closet in the vestibule just to keep by my side as I stayed up for the rest of the night. I lit up incense too and, for good measure, did a banishing ritual even though what I had just seen was obviously more than just a lil ol' ghost. But so what? It has it's own built in request for protection from the gods from unwanted presences so why not? But just going through the motions of doing all of that was also a message to that being that didn't want it him coming back again that night should he decide to do a repeat performance.

A psychologist (Doc) that I talked to about this recent encounter and how startled I was when I saw it commented about that and gave me some additional information about the 'fight and flight' response that I found interesting. Below is a copy of his posts on that:


I have never had that happen (in regards to my encounter) but I can tell you that it is the response of a person to a real event, not just imagination. I have had things startle me and seen things for a second that were shadows, etc. but nothing terrifyingly non-human like that

One good theory is that when we see something, we compare it to the stored images in our memories. Anything remarkably unlike what we expect based on the stored images is going to provoke fight or flight. (That is a blending of Cognitive and Gestalt theories.) The more "alien", the stronger the response. Birds of a feather flocking together is a real-life everyday example. Birds visually discriminate socially on the basis of "looks like me" or "does not look like me".
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Post by Bard on Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:18 pm

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99 wrote:

IMHO... all of us are still in the pioneer era concerning evaluations of the abduction phenomenon, including those narratives by ET experiencers, ET contactee's and ET channelers.
And each of the interpretations of it are a direct reflection of the path that person took through life. Which doctrines influenced them or in the case of academia, ‘what the data tells them’ in the form of a hypothesis.

There is a lot we still don't know about this demographic but as time goes by where more and more people out there are willing to come out of the woodwork and tell their story, we will undoubtedly find many more variations in the 'experiencer' narrative than we presently have. Right now, only a small number of people are even on the internet talking about their ET encounters. And because there are very, very few professional therapists out there who have specialized in this area who have also written books on their findings, we are still only talking about a very small number of people who were even willing to go to those professionals to seek insight on their ET experiences.

Do you believe that all experiencers are in need of professionally trained individuals to help them understand? Are you assuming that those interactions would always require psychological care? I don’t think Dr. Mack would concur with this premise, but that is just my opinion.

Because of the very small sample rate of those who fall within that demographic who have come forward to talk online or privately to those researchers, for us to make any sweeping generalizations on any aspect of the ET experiencer phenomenon based on the information that that small sample has shared with the public in some way, either directly or indirectly, is extremely premature.

That is probably due to the elusive nature of this enigma. Is it safe to assume that most would believe they were having a mental breakdown, hallucinations, drank too much beer, etc. and would just move past those thoughts? “Forget-about it!” And those with their mental faculties intact – would they not cognitively understand that the fringe nature of the enigma we currently have our feet in – is a ‘scarlet letter’ waiting for bestowment? There could be other reasons for the ‘small sample rates’ insomuch as those experiencers do not wish to be a ‘sample rate’. Impersonal-sounding, isn't it? Even a bit disattached? Data mining the human soul?

Also, as for the classic abduction narrative, researchers in that field claim that abductions of those types stopped back in the 80's. The vast majority of abductees' in that category are now in their late 40's, 50's and 60's. The classic abduction phenomenon seems to have only lasted over the course of 3 decades, the 50's, 60's and 70's and maybe into the early 80’s where abductees’ were then having their last visits by their abductors ; after that, with the exception of a few cases here and there, it basically stopped. 'They' got their eggs and so on... women then were visited at certain stages in their lives but then once they got to menopause, most of them were no longer visited.

So now, 30 years later where we are well into a new century, people are still having encounters of ETs but of a different kind. The classic abduction phenomenon that Mack, Jacobs and Hopkins focused on is long gone... and thank G-d for that!

Sounds like you have a firm grasp on the abduction narrative or at least what a more sentient being would logically do to beings in lesser scale. Biology 101?

But because of this, it makes it harder for the researcher of more recent accounts by ET experiencers to be able to find a common thread running through each one of them because unlike how it was with the Classic Abduction Phenomenon where we were seeing many similarities in each of those narratives, the contemporaneous ET encounter experience bears little resemblance to how things were before. I mean sure, we are still seeing “the frightening kind” and the “friendly kind” but now we are also seeing the “ET acclimation kind” only without the sex and everything that came with that seen in those cases that fell into the Classic Abduction Phenomenon narrative.

Acclimation related encounters? Jim Sparks would probably concur. Heck, they tried to beat the ABC-scribbles into him. Dissect his story and see how he began and how he views the world today. Can we concur that, despite the shock and awe related, he is better person today - more consciousness and awareness? Is there a give and take? Fair questions.

Another big change that’s taken place over the past decade or so is that ET channelers are not calling themselves channelers anymore and instead are saying that they are contactee’s who receive information from their ET contacts via telepathy. Apparently the term “channeler” fell out of vogue sometime in the late 90’s. There are still a few out there who are still calling themselves that, but most are not.

Channelers? I don’t think how it works. I’ve never given it a fair share of scrutiny to be honest. Channelers always gave me an mental image of sitting in with Baba Yaga and her crystal ball.




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Post by 99 on Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:54 pm

The following are only my own observations and nothing more.

These days, when an ET contactee says that they are also in communication with and getting messages from that ET, I assume that they are either getting it through channeling or telepathy or both because there are ET channelers out there who are not calling themselves that anymore and instead are simply saying that they are ET contactee’s and leaving it at that.

For a number of reasons, channeling got a bad rap in the late nineties. So then we saw a diminishing number of channelers around like there were before on the internet. And believe me, there were a lot of them. Whole websites went down and they seemed to have completely disappeared off the radar. At first I thought maybe the heyday of the ET channeling phenomenon died down and that’s true it did. But so quickly? This caused me to wondered if something else was going on. Then later, in some forums, I saw a couple people who were calling themselves ET contactee’s who were receiving information from their ET contact primarily via channeling. It was at that time when I realized what happened to some of those disappearing channelers. They were still channelers but they were no longer calling themselves that.

Granted, there are very few people out there anyways who claim to be ET contactee’s but you have to ask them directly how they get their information because we can no longer assume that it is only through telepathy due to the infiltration of ET channelers in that group now too.

This said though, channelers also receive messages from their unseen contacts via telepathy too... at least occasionally. So technically this would qualify them as ET contactee’s which is what they are. Many say they have had visual encounters of their contacts too just like ET contactee’s have too.
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Post by 99 on Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:01 pm

Researchers on the mediumship/channeling/telepathy phenomenon call "Telepathy", "Conscious Channeling".
Percipients who receive telepathic information, are usually in a mild altered state of consciousness when that happens. So mild, the experienced receiver of telepathic information may not even be aware that they are in any altered state of consciousness at all because, for them, it only feels like they are more or less relaxed.*

Unlike those channelers/mediums who go into a full trance by "stepping-aside" where another source takes over and occupies the individuals mind and body, which allows the outside source to communicate through that person, that does not happen in telepathy which is said to be a kind of temporary cohabitation instead.

In telepathy, the percipient is usually in a full state of awareness (or nearly so) in which they are not only self-aware but they are also aware of their surroundings too when they receive their messages. For most, the information is communicated TO them (as opposed to through them) in the form of clairaudience or clairvoyance. In the case of clairaudience, the individual simply repeats back what was said to them. But when the individual receives telepathic isolated words, images, thoughtforms and feelings or information in the form of symbolic meta-conceptual information units, he/she processes and repeats back that information not too unlike that of a bilingual simultaneous translator.

The question is, which form of mediumship ... full-trance channeling or telepathy... has the potential of being less contaminated by the individuals own self-generated thoughts rising from within that ultimately results in a more trustworthy and more precise version of the contents of the information from the source that was passed on to them (the medium)?


*with the exception of some unique and special situations but for the sake of brevity am only stating how it is in the vast majority of cases; most of the time.
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Post by Peter May on Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:33 am

99 wrote:The other night I was visited by what looked like a full materialization of a Tall White Grey that was wearing a red mask over its eyes. I have seen the backside of this, or another similar being, before in the past just as I was entering my bedroom one time where it was exiting via my walk-in closet. This happened last year a few months after my son saw what sounded like a Tall White that was standing next to a tree in his dad's back yard. He was looking out a window in his dad's house when he saw it.


But back to what happened a few nights ago. By the time I climbed into bed that night, I was already hearing those noises that I always hear whenever there are unseen presences around. Those who experience the same kind of thing know what I'm talking about. In this case though, there was also a low vibrating almost motor-like sound too ... hard to describe but this was not the first time I've ever heard something like that.


There was also an odor in the room that was gradually building up. It's a very unpleasant one that smells like rotting meat and I've experienced this kind of thing a number of times before in the past. But even though all of this was going on, I was not expecting anything to show up because most of the time nothing goes beyond what I just described above. And when that odor comes.. I just light up some incense and do a quick banishing prayer for everything to stop... and usually it does though it may take a half hour or a little longer till it does. But sometimes that odor will linger on for a lot longer so I've had that happen too but usually it stops after I do a banishing.


So I was laying there in bed, debating whether or not to jump back out and get an incense stick to light up on my night stand to get rid of it after doing a banishing. I was wide awake tossing and turning but I needed to get a good nights sleep because I had a busy day ahead of me.


So I'm laying there on my side facing the wall where I then flip over to my other side that faces the door and just when I was doing that, when I opened my eyes, I saw a Tall White standing there by the side of my bed looking down at me where it then cocked its head to the side and then disappeared. It looked very solid... so much so, it did not look like anything I could put my hand through. But it was wearing a semi-transparent red cover over it's eyes so I can't describe what they looked like for that reason though except that they looked slanted. I had a red light bulb in my lamp on the table next to my bed and it seemed like the covering over that beings eyes had taken on the color of the light of that lamp. It was not wearing anything... it was all white but I could detect what looked like a mouth. It also seemed to have a 'hair-do', that I could only see the outline of but, strangely enough, it looked like an old ladies kind of 'poof-do'. That's the first thing that came to my mind when I saw that.
Below is a sketch of it that I drew out later that same night. I only saw it for a few seconds but long enough to see some of its details.



The first thing I said when I saw it was "OMG!“ It startled me, of course but everything happened so quickly, I didn't have time to really react but as soon as it disappeared, I sprang out of bed and lit up some incense... then I stayed up for the rest of the night where I finally turned back in again around 4 in the morning.


More on the covering over its eyes:
It looked like a semi-transparent fabric but it also looked like the area just below the ‘fabric’ that was over its eyes was smeared with red paint... and there were tiny red dots too. On the other hand, it could be that it was not paint at all ... maybe that part of its face was soaking in or reflecting the red light from the lamp which indicates that there was differentiation in the surface composition or texture between the area around its eyes and the rest of its face that remained just as white as the rest of it.


When it cocked its head to the side, it looked like it smiled. But what’s weird about this is that last year, a reptilian being popped in one night, just as I was walking into my bedroom where it too cocked its head the same way and smiled too.


So are they the same beings and is it some kind of shape-shifter that first showed up looking like a reptilian where it now is showing up looking like a Tall White? Or is it just a coincidence that both beings did the same thing when they popped in?


Also, I’ve never seen a Tall White in any of my lucid dreams or regular dreams for that matter or in any of mind’s eye visions while meditating. But because my son saw the same kind of being standing next to a tree last year which was the first time he had ever seen anything so out of the ordinary like that, one that he described as a tall “man” that was completely white, and because, since then, I’ve seen it twice, I think it’s connected in some way to both of us. However, having said this, I’m very frightened for my son because if he saw it one time... does that mean that he’s going to see it again sometime? But there are a lot of other things I’m concerned about too that I will not go into now.


Additional thoughts:
It could be that it already knew that that one reptilian being cocked its head and smiled when it appeared to me that one time so “it”, the Tall White”, did the same thing perhaps to let me know that it knew what happened during that incident.


And just another thought about why it had it’s eye’s covered when it showed up the other night... it could be that it knew that it would frighten me too much if I saw its eyes hence why it had them covered. But another reason why it had them covered could mean that its eyes are very sensitive to red light.


Of course, the big question I’m asking about all of this is what’s going on here? What is the purpose of such visitations and what is the message they are trying to convey to me? In the meantime, because of this most recent visit, I will be keeping a loaded camera nearby just in case “it” shows up again. I will also be taking pics even if I sense it is around me at any given time.

I forgot to say that "it" seemed to be glowing from the inside.

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The Smile:
It was a Cheshire cat kind of smile, not unlike the same one that that reptilian gave me when it popped in last year only that ones smile was much creepier. The Tall White seemed toothless whereas the Reptilian had a mouth full of spiked teeth...

I couldn't tell what it's age was but I assumed it was a male even though there was no way to tell what its sex was. Nor did I get any kind of telepathic message either. When it showed up, it was moving its arms and seemed to sway a bit so it was not just standing there straight and still. It was tall with a very long neck and bent over a little too while it was looking down at me giving me the impression that his body was very flexible. But when I see things like this, it takes me days to process it. I mean, even if I saw stuff like this all the time, I will never get used to it... it's just too waaaay out there. And I can honestly say that I feel very isolated when I have such experiences like this because I don't know anyone else who is currently having them. Sure, there are those who have had experiences of seeing ET-like beings years ago, but no one that I know who is currently having such face to face encounters like I have been over the past few years now. And by encounters, I mean with beings that are showing up in what look like full materialization's when one is wide awake and is not in any altered state of consciousness.
At any rate, I wonder what's going on? One the reasons why I'm making such a fool out of myself by posting all of this stuff is because maybe my own current experiences are just a prelude for what's coming up. Maybe our visitors are going to start showing up the way they are showing up for me to more and more people so as to acclimate the general population about the reality of their existence.
I guess time will tell but I'm always on the look out for new people who have never had any ET encounters before who then report in forums like this one that they have seen a full materialization of one appear in front of them very recently. From there I would like to compare notes. But once again, I definitely think that 'they' are getting ready to reveal themselves if not on a mass scale, at least on a one on one basis. But they will probably first only show up to those who will be able to emotionally handle such encounters as I can't see that they would appear, out of the blue, to those who they suspect would end up having an emotional break-down of some sort due to such encounters of them.


No photographs I suppose?

It is very imporyant to understand the nature of what we see, and not what we want to see.
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Post by HarvardLawSecretSociety on Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:07 pm

Are you by any chance living in West Virginia? I've heard of encounters there that are similar to this. I don't have a ton of knowledge on this particular field, thought I do know some who have more than I do. Have you heard of the Mothman?
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Post by Bard on Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:08 am

HarvardLawSecretSociety wrote:Have you heard of the Mothman?

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I remember driving past the bridge to no where towards my grandparents house for many years growing up.

You have some tales to share about 'Eileen'?


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Post by HarvardLawSecretSociety on Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:38 am

I don't know an over amount about the Mothman, but I have done some research in the past. A few friends of mine were overly interested in it. This thread caught my attention because that was the first thing I thought of.

Do you have any experience with it?
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Post by Bard on Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:26 pm

HarvardLawSecretSociety wrote:I don't know an over amount about the Mothman, but I have done some research in the past. A few friends of mine were overly interested in it. This thread caught my attention because that was the first thing I thought of.

Do you have any experience with it?

Personally, No.

The bridge collapsed prior to my birth. I actually knew nothing of the legends until just a few years ago, oddly enough. People in those areas just don't talk or discuss such things, being in the bible belt. I know there are a couple very recent documentaries interviewing some the people who were involved on YouTube who are now in their latter years.

Still, for me, this tale does hold some mysterious curiousness.


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