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Post by Bard on Sat 3 Nov - 5:11

I would like to take a moment to ask the group to watch this film and then point out anything that stands out in your minds.

I will hold my observations until you have had a chance to form your own.

Which speaker affected you the most and why.

http://vimeo.com/29592900

Or here:

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/92404/infinity__the_ultimate__trip/




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Post by Jake Reason on Sat 3 Nov - 19:25

Hi mdonnall,

I watched about 15 minutes of it and found that much of it was a repeat of what I have studied on the subject, which includes reading a couple books and following Spinningshields thread on the old forum. She has a PhD in psychology and has studied NDE's professionally for many years.

There is evidence to suggest that some Jews during 'Jesus' time believed in reincarnation. It is recorded in the Gospels that Jesus was twice asked if John the Baptist was 'the return' (reincarnation) of Elijah. Jesus confirmed it after John died.

I will gladly offer comments or opinions concerning this subject. Please feel free to ask.

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Post by Bard on Sat 3 Nov - 21:10

One story in particular, Jake, stood out to me anyways.

7m–8m
11:30–11:50
12:30–14:00
18:20- 19:20
20:11-22:40
29:00-31:40
39:20-41:10
48:45-50:00
53:30-53:12
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1hr 2m 50sec – 1hr 4m 10sec
1hr 8m 20sec – 1hr 10m 20sec
1hr 13min 55sec -1hr 14m 50sec
1hr 18m 10sec – 1hr 18min 30 sec


Where is SpinningShields these days?


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Post by Jake Reason on Sat 3 Nov - 22:18

Thank you for all the time segments. I just watched them all.
What a lovely lady she is. I find no reason to disbelieve her.

What do you think, Mdonnall?

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Post by Bard on Sat 3 Nov - 22:41

Unless, I missed something, she did not have an NDE.

A stranger with pale skin, and piercing blue eyes, knew all about her.

Where was she at (what country) when he taught her the sign?

Then think: Rendlesham Forest




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Md, is the code recvd during the Rendlesham incident wholly decoded at this point?


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Post by Bard on Sun 4 Nov - 2:00

I was actually wondering the same thing, Admin.


I thought about passing this onto the Sgt. and checking up on that very question, but I haven't had time.

Feel free to do so if you have the means.

I just found this very odd, insomuch that her story was of an 'experience' that had nothing to do with a NDE. It was a visitation.

Then it dawned on me that the Sgt. and her described basically the same symbol. Then I had an idea pop into my head that perhaps this symbol she described could be related to his. What if that symbol is the 'group' that has geographical control/domain/providence of that particular area? If, in fact, that there are groups of influence into particular regions.


Still, we have two WOW moments in the same area roughly, with a symbol of similarity many years apart. What do we have: "Unfinished Humans" Vs "Planetary Advancement"


Just thoughts that came to mind...





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Post by Jake Reason on Sun 4 Nov - 4:20

mdonnall2002 wrote:Unless, I missed something, she did not have an NDE.

A stranger with pale skin, and piercing blue eyes, knew all about her.

Where was she at (what country) when he taught her the sign?

Then think: Rendlesham Forest


Rendlesham!!?? confused

I think she said she was 44 years of age when she last saw him. Which would have been 1969. She said she was 20 years of age when she first met him in 1945 immediately after the war.

Rendlesham was in 1980.

No match

IMO, Nothing in her story even vaguely suggests an ET experience.



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Post by Bard on Sun 4 Nov - 5:04

I never directly said her experiences were ET. I was pointing out a similarity in the stories.

Do you find anything odd in her tale or out of place?

Do you believe Sgt. P. had an ET encounter?

Do you believe anything paranormal transpired regarding her story?

The time frame may not be the important aspect..


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Post by Jake Reason on Sun 4 Nov - 10:31

mdonnall2002 wrote:I never directly said her experiences were ET. I was pointing out a similarity in the stories.
It is my understanding that the Rendalsham incident has always been considered by Ufology an UFO experience which implied ET craft. I do not see any such in this women's story. But you told me to "think: Rendlesham Forest". Of which I do not understand your connection.


Do you find anything odd in her tale or out of place?
Well I found the entire story to be odd, LOL. However I do not get the impression that she is telling a tale.


Do you believe Sgt. P. had an ET encounter?
No. He had originally for years after, only told about seeing a craft. Any new story he may be telling about encountering an ET doesn't make sense to me. As leaving that part out of his story for years is unbelievable to me.


Do you believe anything paranormal transpired regarding her story?
In my view, her entire story and every part of it would be classed "paranormal". And I do not find any reason to disbelieve her.

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Post by Jake Reason on Sun 4 Nov - 11:29

I just rechecked Sgt P's story because I couldn't understand why you would ask me if I believed he had an ET encounter. From all that I can find, there is no mention what-so-ever from Penniston about having an ET encounter.

I feel wasted time. Please be more thoughtful in your questions before asking me. Please and Thank you.



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Post by Admin on Sun 4 Nov - 19:58

Hey Jake Sgt P had what is being described as an encounter with an unmanned craft that had symbols on it which he touched and experienced a download of a message in binary code that has taken a good many years to get deciphered. The code contained a series of coordinates of ancient place sites. It also contained the degree of angle for the current planetary tilt 23.5 degrees. And he is laboring under the belief that the ship was sent by our own people from the far future. This means it's not ET but temporal.

See this on the Rendlesham Code:
http://garyosborn.moonfruit.com/#/rendlesham-code/4563714793

http://garyosborn.moonfruit.com/#/how-to-catch-a-starship/4567715199

The cataclysm Gary mentions in the article about the Rendlesham Code corresponds with the cyclic planetary cataclysm in the oldest story I was told as a child (Old Irish History). Hy Brasil is underwater. If that craft was looking for someone familiar with what happened to Hy Brasil it would mean someone who was familiar with the cataclysm that periodically comes through here and with the Dannan who re-colonized the area (Eire) after the climax of it.

I haven't had a chance to watch the video yet. I had to download it yesterday because I don't have the bandwidth right now to view online (took 7 hours). I'm watching it this afternoon...but what Md mentions about the person with the piercing blue eyes is descriptive of several different tales who may be speaking of the same thing in different terms.

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Post by Bard on Sun 4 Nov - 20:39

Jake

My apologies for not being so polished. I was tying 'potential' similarities together with what I saw of the incidents. I went with the idea the craft would be indicative to being piloted.



You are right - Sgt P. did not see a being. He only saw the craft with the symbols.

However, Larry Warren says there were being(s) seen, and I will remind everyone that he was a Disclosure Project witness.

My purpose and intent - was only an observation.



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Post by Jake Reason on Sun 4 Nov - 20:39

Admin wrote:Hey Jake Sgt P had what is being described as an encounter with an unmanned craft that had symbols on it which he touched and experienced a download of a message in binary code that has taken a good many years to get deciphered. The code contained a series of coordinates of ancient place sites. It also contained the degree of angle for the current planetary tilt 23.5 degrees. And he is laboring under the belief that the ship was sent by our own people from the far future. This means it's not ET but temporal.

See this on the Rendlesham Code:
http://garyosborn.moonfruit.com/#/rendlesham-code/4563714793

http://garyosborn.moonfruit.com/#/how-to-catch-a-starship/4567715199
Yes, that is exactly what I knew about Rendlesham, and thought that everyone else did too, who looked into it. This is why I was so thrown off by Mdonnalls questions and perceived similarities, of which I find absolutely none.


The cataclysm Gary mentions in the article about the Rendlesham Code corresponds with the cyclic planetary cataclysm in the oldest story I was told as a child (Old Irish History). Hy Brasil is underwater. If that craft was looking for someone familiar with what happened to Hy Brasil it would mean someone who was familiar with the cataclysm that periodically comes through here and with the Dannan who re-colonized the area (Eire) after the climax of it.

I've not heard of this, other than the Atlantis stories of course. I will look up 'Hy Brasil'.

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Tir na-m-Buadha (Land of Virtue)
http://historicmysteries.com/hy-brasil-the-other-atlantis


Breas or Bres was half Dannan and half Formor. If I remember correctly he was born on the Formor's Isle of Glass. He was in part responsible for the ending of the conflict between the Formor and the Dannan. Both peoples were surviving groups from the previous planetary civilization but on opposite sides of the conflict. The Formor had what we would today describe as genetic damage from weapons used in the war.

and look at the term "Buadha", Bua is a type of creation energy. This may be the tie-in to Md's video along with the information about Synchronicity. It'll take me till tomorrow probably to get through the whole video.

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Post by Bard on Sun 4 Nov - 23:22

Jake, I was aware.

It was just an observation of possible SYMBOLOGY. I just lost a three paragraph reply to the digital winds. I may retry to compose another later after a meal from the orient.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fomorians

In Irish mythology, the Fomoire (or Fomorians) are a semi-divine race said to have inhabited Ireland in ancient times. They may have once been believed to be the beings who preceded the gods, similar to the Greek Titans. It has been suggested[according to whom?] that they represent the gods of chaos and wild nature, as opposed to the Tuatha Dé Danann who represent the gods of human civilization. Alternatively, they may represent the gods of a proposed pre-Goidelic population of Ireland.

Name

The race are known as the Fomoire or Fomoiri, names that are often Anglicised as Fomorians, Fomors or Fomori. Later in Middle Irish they are also known as the Fomóraig. The etymology of the name Fomoire (plural) has been cause for some debate. Medieval Irish scholars thought the name contained the element muire "sea", owing to their reputation as sea pirates.[1] In 1888, John Rhys was the first to suggest that it is an Old Irish word composed of fo "under/below" and muire "sea", concluding that it may refer to beings whose (original) habitat is under the sea.[2] Observing two instances of the early genitive form fomra, Kuno Meyer arrives at the same etymology, but takes it to refer to land by the sea.[3] Whitley Stokes and Rudolf Thurneysen, on the other hand, prefer to connect the second element *mor with a supposed Old English cognate mara "mare" (which survives today in the English word night-mare).[4][5] Building on these hypotheses, Marie-Louise Sjoestedt interprets the combination of fo and the root *mor as a compound meaning "inferior" or "latent demons".[6]
[edit]Characteristics

They are sometimes said to have had the body of a man and the head of a goat, according to an 11th century text in Lebor na hUidre (the Book of the Dun Cow), or to have had one eye, one arm and one leg, but some, for example Elatha, the father of Bres, were very beautiful. Bres himself carries the epithet "the Beautiful."
[edit]Irish mythology

The medieval myth of Partholon says that his followers were the first to invade Ireland after the flood, but the Fomorians were already there: Seathrún Céitinn reports a tradition that the Fomorians, led by Cíocal, had arrived two hundred years earlier and lived on fish and fowl until Partholon came, bringing the plough and oxen. Partholon defeated Cíocal in the Battle of Mag Itha, but all his people later died of plague.
Then came Nemed and his followers. Ireland is said to have been empty for thirty years following the death of Partholon's people, but Nemed and his followers encountered the Fomorians when they arrived. At this point Céitinn reports another tradition that the Fomorians were seafarers from Africa, descended from Noah's son Ham. Nemed defeated them in several battles, killing their kings Gann and Sengann,[7] but two new Fomorian leaders arose: Conand son of Faebar, who lived in Conand's Tower on Tory Island, County Donegal, and Morc son of Dela (note that the first generation of the Fir Bolg were also said to be sons of Dela).
After Nemed's death, Conand and Morc enslaved his people and demanded a heavy tribute: two thirds of their children, grain and cattle. Nemed's son Fergus Lethderg gathered an army of sixty thousand, rose up against them and destroyed Conand's Tower, but Morc attacked them with a huge fleet, and there was great slaughter on both sides. The sea rose over them and drowned most of the survivors: only thirty of Nemed's people escaped in a single ship, scattering to the other parts of the world.
The next invasion was by the Fir Bolg, who did not encounter the Fomorians.
Next, the Tuatha Dé Danann, who are usually supposed to have been the gods of the Goidelic Irish, defeated the Fir Bolg in the first Battle of Magh Tuiredh and took possession of Ireland. Because their king, Nuada, had lost an arm in the battle and was no longer physically whole, their first king in Ireland was the half-Fomorian Bres. He was the result of a union between Ériu of the Tuatha Dé Danann and the Fomorian prince Elatha, who had come to her one night by sea on a silver boat. Both Elatha and Bres are described as very beautiful. However Bres turned out to be a bad king who forced the Tuatha Dé to work as slaves and pay tribute to the Fomorians. He lost authority when he was satirized for neglecting his kingly duties of hospitality. Nuada was restored to the kingship after his arm was replaced with a working one of silver, but the Tuatha Dé's oppression by the Fomorians continued.
Bres fled to his father, Elatha, and asked for his help to restore him to the kingship. Elatha refused, on the grounds that he should not seek to gain by foul means what he couldn't keep by fair. Bres instead turned to Balor, a more warlike Fomorian chief living on Tory Island, and raised an army.
The Tuatha Dé Danann also prepared for war, under another half-Fomorian leader, Lug. His father was Cian of the Tuatha Dé, and his mother was Balor's daughter Ethniu. This is presented as a dynastic marriage in early texts, but folklore preserves a more elaborate story, reminiscent the story of Zeus and Cronus from Greek mythology. Balor, who had been given a prophecy that he would be killed by his own grandson, locked Ethniu in a glass tower to keep her away from men. But when he stole Cian's magical cow, Cian got his revenge by gaining entry to the tower, with the help of a druidess called Biróg, and seducing her. She gave birth to triplets, which Balor ordered drowned. Two of the babies either died or turned into the first seals, but Biróg saved one, Lug, and gave him to Manannan and Tailtiu to foster. As an adult Lug gained entry to Nuada's court through his mastery of every art, and was given command over the army.
The Second Battle of Mag Tuireadh was fought between the Fomorians under Balor and the Tuatha Dé under Lug. Balor killed Nuada with his terrible, poisonous eye that killed all it looked upon. Lug faced his grandfather, but as he was opening his eye Lug shot a sling-stone that drove his eye out the back of his head, wreaking havoc on the Fomorian army behind. After Balor's death the Fomorians were defeated and driven into the sea.
The Tuatha Dé Danann and the Fomorians are closely related. Neit, a war god, is an ancestor of both.
[edit]The Training of Cú Chulainn

The Fomorians were still around at the time of Cú Chulainn. In the medieval Irish tale entitled The Training of Cú Chulainn, preserved as a copy by Richard Tipper in British Library, Egerton 106, it gives the following mention:
Then they parted from each other, and Cúchulainn went and looked forth on the great sea. As he was there he beheld a great assembly on the strand nearest to him, to wit, a hundred men and a hundred women seated in the bosom of the haven and the shore, and among them a maiden shapely, dear and beautiful, the most distinguished damsel of the world's women, and they a-weeping and lamenting around the damsel. Cúchulainn came to the place and saluted them. ‘What is this sorrow or the misery upon you?’ says Cúchulainn. The damsel answered and this she said: ‘A royal tribute which the tribe of Fomorians carry out of this country every seventh year, namely, the first-born of the king's children. And at this time it has come to me to go as that tribute, for to the king I am the dearest of his children.’‘What number comes to lift that tribute?’ asks Cúchulainn. ‘Three sons of Alatrom of the Fomorians,’ she answers, ‘and Dub, Mell and Dubros are their names.’ Not long had they been at those talks when they saw the well-manned, full-great vessel approaching them over the furious waves of the sea. And when the damsel's people saw the ship coming, they all fled from her, and not a single person remained in her company save only Cúchulainn. And thus was that vessel: a single warrior, dark, gloomy, devilish, on the stern of that good ship, and he was laughing roughly, ill-fatedly, so that every one saw his entrails and his bowels through the body of his gullet. ‘What is that mirthfulness on the big man?’ asks Cúchulainn.‘Because,’ says the damsel, ‘he deems it excellent that thou shouldst be an addition to his tribute in this year rather than in any other year.’ ‘By my conscience,’ says Cúchulainn, ‘it would not be right for him to brag thus regarding me if he knew what would come of it.’ Then the big man came ashore to them into the strand, and stretched forth his long, sinewy, hideous arm to seize Cúchulainn in the very front of his royal tribute. Straightway Cúchulainn raised his right hand, and bared his sword, and gave a blow to the big man and struck off his head, so that he was the first that fell by Cúchulainn after having completed his training. And thereafter the other two fell by him, and he left them thus, neck to neck.[8]
In later times any settled pirates or seaborne raiders were labeled Fomorians and the original meaning of the word was forgotten.
[edit]List of Fomorians

Balor
Bres
Buarainech
Cethlenn
Cichol Gricenchos
Conand
Corb
Elatha
Ethniu
Tethra
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Togail Bruidne Dá Derga
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A hypothesis for how consciousness might be affected by such a celestial cycle can be built on the work of Dr. Valerie Hunt, a former professor of physiology at UCLA. In a number of studies, she has found that changes in the ambient EM field (which surrounds us all the time) can dramatically affect human cognition and performance. In short, consciousness appears to be affected by subtle fields of light, or as quantum physicist Dr. Amit Goswami implies, “Consciousness seems to prefer light.” Consistent with myth and folklore, the concept behind the Great Year or cyclical model of history is based on the Sun’s motion through space, subjecting Earth to waxing and waning stellar fields (all stars are huge generators of EM spectra) resulting in the legendary rise and fall of the ages over great epochs of time.

Source: An Ancient Message For the Future by Walter Cruttenden http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/CruttendenW2.php

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A Historical Perspective

Current theories of history generally ignore myth and folklore and do not consider any macro external influences on consciousness. For the most part, modern history theory teaches that consciousness (or history) moves in a linear pattern from the primitive to the modern, with few exceptions, and it includes the following tenets:


*Mankind evolved out of Africa

*People were hunter-gatherers until about 5,000 years ago

*Tribes first banded together for protection from other warring parties

*Written communication preceded large engineered structures or populous civilizations

The problem with this widely accepted paradigm is that it is not consistent with the evolving interpretation of recently discovered ancient cultures and anomalous artifacts. In the last hundred years, major discoveries have been made in Mesopotamia, the Indus Valley, South America, and many other regions that break the rules of history theory and push back the time of advanced human development. Specifically, they show that ancient peoples were, in many ways, far more proficient and civilized nearly five thousand years ago than they were during the more recent dark ages of just five hundred to a thousand years ago. In Caral, an ancient complex of unknown origin on the west coast of Peru, we find six pyramids that are carbon dated to 2700 BC, a date contemporaneous with Egyptian pyramids and that rivals the time of the first major structures found in the so-called Cradle of Civilization in Mesopotamia. Caral is an ocean away from the Cradle. We find no evidence of writing or weaponry, two of the so-called necessities of civilization, but we do find beautiful musical instruments, astronomically aligned structures, and evidence of commerce with distant lands — all signs of a peaceful and prosperous culture.

Gobekli Tepe presents an even greater challenge to conventional accounts of history. Dated to about 9000 BC, this site in Turkey contains dramatic architecture, including many carved pillars of large proportions, and it is still only about 10% uncovered. To find that something so big and complex existed long before the dates accepted for the invention of agriculture and pottery is an archaeological enigma. These sites defy the standard historical paradigm. And what is stranger still is that so many of these civilizations seemed to decline en masse. In ancient Mesopotamia, Pakistan, Jiroft, and adjacent lands, we find knowledge of astronomy, geometry, advanced building techniques, sophisticated plumbing and water systems, incredible art, dyes and fabrics, surgery, medicine, and many other refinements of a civilized culture which seem to have emerged from nowhere and were completely lost over the next few thousand years.


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Summary of my posts above:

Synchronicity is busy making matrices - connections in which restoration of humanity's history is enabled, science & soul can begin to establish relationships, and a second shot at setting up a foundational knowledge base about creation & creation energy is established. This is all part of a bigger picture in which purpose is married to potential and mankind becomes aware of the revolution of lifetimes and the value of this life and form of expression to self-development and interconnected development with others. The Rendlesham incident seems to have a relationship at several levels. A spiritual, historical and temporal level and may be a communication of a future problem that has to be transcended? The interweaving of synchronistic activity drawing together so many components and individuals efforts is rarely publicly seen.

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Post by Bard on Mon 5 Nov - 1:24

Thanks for the previous links from Gary Osborn's site. I finished reading them over.

I'll just continue shooting arrows into the dark from here. farao








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Post by Admin on Mon 5 Nov - 2:20

you're welcome Md.

More evidence:

page 1 - Evidence that the Avebury stone circle and its associated monuments show knowledge of past Polar positions
by S. F. Wells

Introduction

General

As someone interested in ancient mysteries I purchased and read ‘The Atlantis Blueprint’ by Flem-Ath and Wilson shortly after it was published in the UK. One of the things that interested me was that Avebury was listed as one of the three ‘original sacred sites’ according to the theory the book proposes. The other two were Ur and Abydos.

Living as I do fairly close to Avebury I decided to pay the site a visit just for something to do on a Sunday. Flem-Ath also mentioned that some of his ‘sacred sites’ had indications within their layout or structure that made reference to the three previous polar positions of the Earth. These previous positions were those it has had over the past 100,000 years as theorised by Hapgood in his book ‘Path of the Poles’. It occurred to me to look at Avebury to see if there were any indications in the structure and layout of this nature. Flem-Ath made no reference in his book to visiting Avebury.

To be honest I had no expectation of finding anything. How wrong I was..

Atlantis Blueprint theory

For a full explanation and reasoning behind this theory the reader should of course obtain and read Wilson & Flem-Aths book. For relevance to the rest of this paper I will lay out the main points as follows.

Firstly, it is related to Hapgoods Polar displacement theory in which he lays out evidence that the Earth’s crust has slipped around causing the poles to move relative to the surface of the Earth but not relative to the Sun. This has caused different regions of the Earth surface to be glaciated at different times. Hapgood proposes there are no ‘Ice Ages’ as such. Simply that the movement of the pole causes different areas to be covered in Ice at different times. Also that this slippage can occur relatively quickly when it does happen. Possibly just measured in terms of a few years. He has evidence for three specific movements in the last 100,000 years and many others throughout geological time. He also proposes that these slippages cause catastrophic problems for flora and fauna in the regions nearer to the poles or those most affected by the particular slippage direction. Most recently he believes it contributed to the demise of the so called ‘mega fauna’, Mammoths etc in North America and Siberia some 12- 6,000 years ago.

Wilson & Flem-Ath think mantle displacement rather than crustal displacement is a more likely explanation and I have found several papers on the Geological society website that discuss mantle/core discontinuity so it is not anathema to modern scientific thinking.

Hapgood mentions as an aside in his book that some ancient maps appear to show the world as it would have looked prior to the last Polar displacement. He wrote a further book called ‘Maps of the ancient sea kings’ on this subject. The implication being that human knowledge and civilisation therefore predated the end of the last ‘Ice age’.

It was this implication that Wilson & Flem-Ath picked up on and expanded. They eventually concluded that there was an ancient worldwide civilisation. They were aware of previous polar displacements and how damaging they could be. They therefore, set up a series of measuring points around the world that were related to Giza and the Poles so they could measure if any slippage was taking place and take appropriate (evacuation?) action in the areas likely to be most effected.

These measuring points were at specific relative positions and the overall theory shows that many of these positions still have ancient monuments associated with them and further that it is possible to predict where other ancient monuments may be based on the knowledge of how these measuring points were set up. (Read the book for a full explanation!). These ancient monuments show characteristics that relate to previous poles. For example Wilson & Flem-Ath show that the Sphinx temple at Giza is misaligned to the mortuary temple of the great pyramid by 28 degrees. This bearing points to the previous North Pole. Also this temple has 28 pillars.

My task in the rest of this paper is to show the reader that similar evidence exists at Avebury to show that the builders had knowledge of the position of previous North Poles and this is demonstrable in the alignments of the Avebury monument structures and the bearings between them.

more: http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/WellsSF1.php


and on the next piece page 2:

Did Ancient Humans Have Knowledge of the Electromagnetic (EM) Spectrum? (cont.)
By Glenn Kreisberg, Radio Frequency (RF) Spectrum Engineer


Fig. 3 Saw tooth wave representation
Fig. 4 Sine wave representation
Observing what he believes to be power plant plans on ancient tapestry, and microprocessor design in Egyptian temple layout, Slovakian researcher Dr. Pavel Smutny has written, “Maybe it is unusual and surprising, but in ornaments on old carpets are woven-in schemes, and principle plans of advanced technologies, which come from vanished cultures and thousands-year-old civilizations. These residues are probably the last ones, which can help revive forgotten, very sophisticated technologies and methods for exploitation of natural electrostatic energy sources”

On the Egyptian temples Smutny continues, “ If we see plans for the Valley temple at Spynx, or of the Mortuary temple at Chaphre's pyramid, or the Mortuary temple at Menkaure pyramid, or also of Osereion from Abydos, to a person familiar with the basics of computer techniques, or even better to person experienced with construction of microwave circuits in bands above 1 Gigahertz (GHz), he will tell you that these plans are schemes of PCBs (boards for electronic circuits).”

Smutny further notes, “These plans look like schemes of electronic circuits working on quite high frequencies above 1 GHz, with use of so called components with distributed (spread) parameters. These components are of such sort, that the top conductive layer is formed to various shapes, which work as inductors, capacitors, resistors, filters, resonators, or have similar functions. Advantages of so produced circuits are very good functions and low losses on high frequencies. Not so different from classical electronic circuits with use of discrete components as began to be produced in the 1980s, in at that time superior high frequency devices.”

More at source: http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/KreisbergG1.php?p=2


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Post by Jake Reason on Mon 5 Nov - 23:58

mdonnall2002 wrote:Jake, I was aware.

It was just an observation of possible SYMBOLOGY.

Keep Well

No worries. I just felt her story was beautiful and thought you wanted to talk it.

Thank you Cy for posting some historical details of our Irish past. I haven't had time to delve into it yet, but will do.

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Post by Admin on Tue 6 Nov - 4:58

@ Jake you may find so many of the things you wondered about have always been closer to you than you ever imagined.

@ Mdonnall, her story would be one that so many others should hear.


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Post by Bard on Tue 6 Nov - 9:52

Admin wrote:@ Jake you may find so many of the things you wondered about have always been closer to you than you ever imagined.

@ Mdonnall, her story would be one that so many others should hear.

Nodding head.

~Still, she does not need a circus for certain and neither does her caretaker(s).~


I have been scouring the net for books and movies about her experience and have came up empty. I have attempted to contact her to inquire more about her story - with no reply.

She looks very frail.


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