If we can explain humans, then we ought to be able to explain atoms. That is how the path of explanation will proceed. There needs to be a level playing field, and so we have space. There needs to be a metanarrative, and so we have time. There needs to be a chain of being/food/ecology, and so we have metabolism. That's about all she wrote.
Sapience is the social 'disease', par excellence. That's why I suppose that God doesn't have a soul. She is timesharing ours. Only our singular shared soul is sufficiently socialized to be sapient.
But hold on, a minute..... I used to suppose that the big distinction between the sapients and sentients was that only we had individual souls, as demarcated by our individual eidetic memories. I guess that I'm now supposing that our memories are shareable, if not actually shared, at present.
And, yes, that atoms are mainly the product of our teleologically mediated collective memory/Cs. They provide, along with the stars, a kind of registration/calibration device for the proper alignment of our consciousnesses. That's the best explanation I've managed so far. Please, forgive my ineptitude. Why does God have to pick dumb clowns? Life could have been a lot easier for all of us.
End of story? Well, there is still the small matter of theosis. I'm sure glad I discovered that little word. Aren't you? And when do we stop breathing? Do the 144,000 returnees ever stop breathing? Maybe not. Perhaps they remain segregated. The rest of us get over it. Our transitional bodies are more or less shape-shifting. They suffice for whatever are our transitional purposes. The glorified bodies fulfill their purposes, and fade away. No big deal.
Is there a final state? Eternity? Does time stop? I would suppose that time gives way to a shining Presence. Can we then backtrack? I would suppose, unless there is a good reason why not. There is no erasure of memory..... more like its reconfiguration. Keep in mind that most of what we experience now are reconfigured memories. Our fullest presence is but a shadow of the real thing.... 1Cor13, is it not?
Memories may seem like an indirect perception, but that is only so they don't overwhelm the present. Sub specie aeternitas, there is nothing absent from the Presence. Be there or be square.
Atoms are a bit like the roulette wheels...... if they don't play fair, they get smacked. If an atom ever shape shifted, something bad would happen to it. And there is only one atom, rather like there is only one electron. No? How does that work? Well, it tells us something about the mirrored aspect of space. Yes? If your reflection doesn't behave, then watch out. And it tells us something about the Imago-dei. There is a lot of filtering, on this level.
Sam sends the following link to our four person discussion group, meeting tomorrow.....
One of us responds as follows.......
Sam, et al.,
I don’t think the Story of Change is a very accurate view of the world as it is or as it might become. The real story is the impossibility of change without some major disruption like widespread famine, financial collapse, nuclear war, a major pandemic, etc. The only people on this planet really desiring change are those billions living on a few bucks a day, and the change they want is to live like us. We all know how that would work out.
Personally the only changes I want are those that would make my current lifestyle more secure or those that would make it possible for Carol and me to travel the globe in our declining years. Somehow I think those two values are probably near the top of the list for most middle class folks in the Western world. What do I want to give up? – can’t really think of anything other than meat in my diet.
When the incredible necessity for change runs into the incredible resistance of those who are comfortable, I don’t see self sacrifice carrying the day.
And I respond.......
Yes, this does sound like food for our discussion, tomorrow.
Change can come from within and from without. The most leverage comes from within. Witness the Copernican revolution.... that was a combination, was it not?
The modern minded amongst us have been sold on Copernicus, and for very good reasons, or so it seems..... to the modern minded.
We have grown very accustomed to the notion that we are lost, in space and time. Can you imagine what it would do to the modern psyche to learn otherwise? To learn that we may not be quite as lost as we are wont to believe? That demonstration could come overnight, or it could come over a decade, whichever best suits our situation.
In the meantime, I kibitz the modern media with a certain sense of irony and bemusement.
So, what are our heavenly bodies? Perhaps the best example is the one ascribed to Jesus, especially in his sudden appearance to the eleven. It is pointed out that the door had been locked, giving the presumption of a non-physical 'translation'. Yet, his body was solid to the touch, and he supped with them. In this example of a transitional(?) body, the physicality is somewhat ambiguous, or, shall we say, ad hoc! I can go with that.
Surely this is some sort of a fable. It may well be. But on this fable may hang human destiny, according to the BPWH, and that, in turn, accords with my best opinion, FWIW. If this story does not speak to our destiny, then I am at a loss to know what might do so, in its stead.
On another note, I have sometimes been given to wonder why the laws of physics need be quite so elegant, in their mathematical glory, although I do not recall having made this question explicit. Might we not also wonder whether some of their anthropic functionality might not have been sacrificed thereby? Or, OTOH, is that elegance not, somehow, an essential feature of that functionality? It's hard for me to believe that God is merely showing off his mathematical prowess, or merely wanting to paint a pretty picture.
I have speculated about the organicity of mathematics, and how this might relate both to its elegance and to its functionality. Yet, the sort of elegance to which I refer is not something to be found in biology, where intricacy might be the more appropriate descriptive.
The elegance to which I refer is nothing superficial. It is, rather, a deep beauty, the secrets of which have required the utmost efforts of the most gifted of human minds many centuries to uncover. To even catch a glimpse of it is to have one's mind boggled. I often refer to Srinivasa, in this regard, despite the fact that his work never focused on mathematical physics. Evidently, there is a music of the spheres to which only the most gifted amongst us can have a direct, intuitive perception. The rest of us....... we hear the music through the PA system.
That's lovely, but where is the biology? Or is there a direct connection to our CNS? Or does it bypass our CNS to go right to our uCs? One might as well ask how organicity works, or what it is, in the the larger scheme, or is it the larger scheme? I would suspect it is. It is about panpsychism and the panpsychic catastrophe.