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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:24 am

First topic message reminder :

This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 3 thread.......

The original topic reminder post http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
should be substituted here......

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:43 pm

A barrel of Rum.........?

I’m not sure I would recommend that, out at the lake.  

All this conspiracy stuff is very divisive, especially QAnon.  It will be an easy act to follow.  

The epitome of all evil is alleged to be the New World Order.  If I’m supposed to be the Antichrist, then I might as well be pushing the NWO.  

And I am, in the guise of the BPWH.....
Dang me, dang me
They oughta take a rope and hang me
High from the highest tree
Woman, would you weep for me?
It will certainly make things easy.......

Any other questions.......?

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by U on Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:04 pm

A new world order is certainly on it's way, whose remains to be seen. You are the best possible Antichrist though Dan so we're in good hands. Q is just having a bit of fun I'm sure.
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:24 pm

Thank you, Reptile, for your endorsement of me for the Antichrist.  I’m sure that smelly will second your nomination, and POJG should readily agree.

My first act as president will be to pardon Hillary and George Soros. Anyone else? I think all the billionaires should be given a second chance. Is Jane Fonda still alive? She will be near the top of my pardon list.


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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:26 pm

Dan,

As the Antichrist, how do you celebrate Christmas?
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:43 pm

Aaron,

I celebrate Good Friday.

Christmas........? Bah..... humbug.....
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Re: Immaterialism 4

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Post by smelly on Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:22 pm

Dan, you are the one that needs to catch up.

The BPW is not what is being shown here, nor how to face the underworld and irrational.

Listen to Tom Cheetham and yuh might get a clue.

Descend into the underworld yourself and then you may have something valuable to point the dreaming to.

Until then you are just pretending.

Have fun.
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:25 pm

Reptile wrote:A new world order is certainly on it's way, whose remains to be seen. You are the best possible Antichrist though Dan so we're in good hands. Q is just having a bit of fun I'm sure.

It is the irrational having fun with you all and it certainly goes much deeper than silly muppet agendas which are meaningless nonsense.

No one knows what will happen, the evil know only that they can trick people to follow nonsense.

Have to look and see much much deeper.

It won’t be seen easily and if you don’t go straight on you have no chance at seeing the real.

Have fun.
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by U on Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:31 pm

Don't worry I am, and I will...
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:49 am

“Vain is the discourse of that philosopher by which no human suffering is healed.”

—Epicurus
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by hobbit on Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:57 am

smelly wrote:Dan, you are the one that needs to catch up.

The BPW is not what is being shown here, nor how to face the underworld and irrational.

Listen to Tom Cheetham and yuh might get a clue.

Descend into the underworld yourself and then you may have something valuable to point the dreaming to.

Until then you are just pretending.

Have fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLRjFWDGs1g

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Re: Immaterialism 4

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https://youtu.be/pOE6vOnyw5E
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Post by smelly on Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:50 am

hobbit wrote:
smelly wrote:Dan, you are the one that needs to catch up.

The BPW is not what is being shown here, nor how to face the underworld and irrational.

Listen to Tom Cheetham and yuh might get a clue.

Descend into the underworld yourself and then you may have something valuable to point the dreaming to.

Until then you are just pretending.

Have fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLRjFWDGs1g


Bahahaha

Don’t worry Dan, I’m not here.
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:22 am

Merry Christmas, everyone........

And have you ever been wished a Merry Christmas, by someone claiming to be the Antichrist?  It’s pretty special.  

The Princess is out, participanting in the ancient art of falconry...... and sending her best, as well.

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by U on Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:00 pm

Back at you, thanks!
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Cuan Scott on Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:31 pm

Merry Christmas Dan

and a Merry Christmas to all the OM Family Smile

Maureen sends her best too! Smile
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:49 pm

There are signs that the world is balanced precariously, hanging by a slender thread.  Of course, things can always get worse...... I will not deny it.  That slender thread, however, is embedded in Eternity.  

We do have premonitions of eternity....... just glimpses.  This is what we are vouchsafed, as mortals. Cheetham speaks of the dark night of the soul, and the blazing night of the spirit.  We find ourselves in that midst.  The spirit might even forsake us...... but we cannot deny it.  We have known it.  We did make its acquaintance...... once upon a time.
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Thank you, Scott. My best to both......

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Foot Mann on Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:34 pm

Presidential debates resume in January with the Big Cheese as the Best Possible Candidate.
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Post by smelly on Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:19 pm

Cheetham also says beware of isms.

‘The "mystics" of the church have often been from surprising backgrounds, and their messages rightly construed as subversive; their insights have regularly chafed at the edges of doctrinal "orthodoxy," and they have rejoiced in the coming of startling (sometimes erotically startling) new metaphors to describe their experiences of God. Those who have appealed to a "dark" knowing beyond speech have thus challenged the smugness of accepted anthropomorphisms for God, have probed ... to the subversive place of the "semiotic."‘

Note what he says about being authentic Dan. What I have always demanded of you. Claiming to be the Antichrist is not being authentic.

“This vulnerability is required by both men and women, and is not incompatible with the development of a centered self. It is only by this special kind of vulnerability that the self can both find its true center and be able to connect with others in an authentic way.”
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:46 am

We are lived by powers we pretend to understand:
They arrange our loves; it is they who direct at the end
The enemy bullet, the sickness, or even our hand.

It is their tomorrow hangs over the earth of the living
And all that we wish for our friends; but existing is believing
We know for whom we mourn and who is grieving.

—W. H. Auden

I don’t understand this process that has taken over my life, but I feel it.

Let those with understanding leave us feeling bastards in our ignorance.

The Red Book is a tour and guide to the Hell into which we must all descend and rise from.

The rational mind can’t get the job done and any psychology or plan from that mind is off the mark.

Our flow of pyschic energy in and out mixes with the inner and outer forms.

Form and fanstasy elaborate our emotions.

Psyche creates reality for us every day, which is a fantasy.

To engage the figures of Hell is where the finger points.

Imagine encountering your own soul and you will.

The deeply individual fateful aspects of our lives are being lived by other powers with us.

Hillman saw the vision I and many have.

We swam to bottom of the ocean and we could breath and that was surprising.

The imagination made it possible to breathe.

Imagine it and then your psychic energy will create the form from the inner fantasy.

I am allowing the phonomena to speak through me.

This is how it appears to me.

We need to let the phonomena, the Daimon, speak through us.

Happy Festivas!
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Post by dan on Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:57 am

Claiming to be the Antichrist is not being authentic.........

Spoken by whom, smelly?  

It will be authentic for someone.  I will claim to be that someone until a better someone comes along.  It has been two thousand years years, smelly.  Who’d a thunk it?  donald is just a tin horn, but he does try.  
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by hobbit on Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:03 am

Merry Christmas everyone.

The sun has risen again, after dying for three days.
It reaches it's lowest declination on the 21st dec, stays at that level for three days then rises one degree a day.



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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:55 am

Twas the night before Christmas, and all through xxx Lane, the screams were deafening, the inmates insane.
As I put on my earplugs and downed  vodka egg nog, I beg of you Ron,  don't make me read Dan's blog!
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Post by hobbit on Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:41 am

dan wrote:
Twas the night before Christmas, and all through xxx Lane, the screams were deafening, the inmates insane.
As I put on my earplugs and downed  vodka egg nog, I beg of you Ron,  don't make me read Dan's blog!






https://mukarrar.com/twas-the-night-before-christmas-poem/

St Nick.

The TALE of northern shaman.

Who followed the reindeer who sniffed out the magic mushrooms.
the shaman hung them on the pine trees out of reach of Rudolph.

Then the shaman could ingest the magic mushrooms after drying and receive all the presents universe has.
Rudolph in the mean time found more magic mushrooms under the pine trees, and scoffed them.
Thus Rudolph was flying with St nick ( shaman ) following.

The rest is business.


https://www.livescience.com/25731-magic-mushrooms-santa-claus.html



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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:35 am

Awesome hobbit, posted on my FB Wink

Dan, you may channel and embody any archetype you like, but the image is not you.

I have played the Goat, the Trickster, Pan, an OSHO and the Green Man, it’s fun to play, and I have you way beat in the Antichrist department, sorry.

Sigh, pretenders all.

Catch up muppet, because I’m lapping you, I know the secret.

Who are you then really if anyone you could be was just a mask?

What will help bring peace on earth is for all of us to burn our idols, not strengthen the ones already distracting us.

The flame is the mystical now that always immediately fulfills every prophecy and ends history.

Here is to the all consuming black flame, Happy New Year to all of my muppets!



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The warrior whispers back, ‘I am the storm.’

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