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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:09 pm

First topic message reminder :

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:30 pm

Thank you, Aaron.  We do what we can.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:33 pm

If you refuse to play the games of your masters, they will put you to death.

The hippies played their own games, Tiny Tim.

I like where they were headed.

Meta game programming.

The meta game of becoming wise is a fun game.

The game of goats is fun.

But that’s all they are.

Dan’s eschaton game is boooring.

Princess and hive portal game sounds more fun.

My game is my favorite though.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:43 pm

Compassion can be hell a fun too
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:45 pm

If I had no compassion, I’d be silent and inactive. Wisdom only grows from the ground of compassion.

One muppets compassion is another’s poison.

More cow bell please.



My blood is your blood muppet.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:50 pm

Eric, 

I think we have enough confusion in the world, already.  

Let’s see if you can stop being the class clown/bully for just one minute while we attempt to sort ourselves out......


Aaron,

I’m going out......

Could you please try tamp down Eric’s mania.  I will try to call him later....

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:51 pm

Ha, got ya. I never said you didn't have compassion.

You fell right into my trap, I knew you would. 

Muahaha
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:06 pm

dan wrote:Eric, 

I think we have enough confusion in the world, already.  

Let’s see if you can stop being the class clown/bully for just one minute while we attempt to sort ourselves out......


Aaron,

I’m going out......

Could you please try tamp down Eric’s mania.  I will try to call him later....

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Says the old drunk Wink

I’m just calling your bullshitz.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:08 pm

Lol

I'll help Dan only if you pay me.

But I only accept girly giggles as payment. 

You have to giggle like a girl.

Half now, and half when you reach cold mountain.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:15 pm

Truth is not the ultimate criteria.

Dan suffers from an addiction to truth.

That’s a throwback to the age of righteousness.

That stinks bad to the smelly goat.

The irrational now leads, you are in my world after all, irrational numbers are uncountably infinite.

What is Truth?

The rational is an island in the ocean of the irrational.

Muhahahaha
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:26 pm

Tell us about Owen Barfield, Eric.

What has been his influence on you?
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:28 pm

Will, which is Magick, is my only witness.

You aren’t cleared for this yet muppet Wink

It turns out, self belief has the greatest power. We have given our power away in all these games.

Now the wolves approach for the kill.

El ‘Ron’ Diablo
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:35 pm

Owen Barfield sure has a lot of nothing to say.

Letting go of all concepts and understanding is the beginning of wisdom.....I think maybe
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:02 pm

The only Way is to believe in your self with a wink to fortune; a beautiful, irrational, imaginary being.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:11 pm

That's simple enough, but even that is a product of something simpler
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:31 pm

Black Goat, The Destroyer!!!

I’m laughing, so hard.

What a setup.

Muppets.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:13 pm

Oh God, that is hilarious!

I’m rolling.

Good times!

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:16 pm

smelly wrote:Truth is not the ultimate criteria.

Dan suffers from an addiction to truth.

That’s a throwback to the age of righteousness.

That stinks bad to the smelly goat.

The irrational now leads, you are in my world after all, irrational numbers are uncountably infinite.

What is Truth?

The rational is an island in the ocean of the irrational.

Muhahahaha

How do you know so much Smelly?

You just have an answer for everything.

Wink
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:27 pm

What’s a matter Goat boy, Cat got your tongue?

Wink

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:56 pm

Where did everyone go?

Come back and play...

Silence is a fun game too I guess.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:26 am

There is a story about Confucius, who one day met Laozi, a great Chinese philosopher. Laozi said, “Sir, what is your system?” And Confucius said, “It is charity, love of one’s neighbor, and elimination of self interest.”

Laozi said, “Stuff and nonsense. Your elimination of self is a positive manifestation of Self. Look at the Universe. The stars keep their order, the trees and plants grow upward without exception, the waters flow, be like this. All your nonsense about elimination of Self is like beating a drum in search of a fugitive.”

When the police arrive on the first floor, the thieves have gone up to the second. And so to the third, and finally up to the roof. So when the ego is about to be unmasked, it immediately identifies with the higher self. It goes up a level.

You cannot one up the ego. The best you can do is Wu Wei, but you are already doing that all the time anyway, so all there is left to do is laugh and dance and let your freak flag fly.

Swing this thing and go out with a bang, not a whimper.



Something magical has happened on OMF and I hope you beautiful people can see it.

I hope you muppets can see that the word muppet is a term of endearment.

Smelly Goat has dropped some big golden poops on here the past couple days.

You have to read between the lines.

It’s so beautiful it brings a muppet tear to my eye.

Let your individual freak flag fly and embrace your individual self.

Diversity is the heart of unity.

I like the eschaton game.

I like the Princess and the Portal game.

I like the Smelly Goat game.

But I think my game is the best by far.

My game is all of these and so much more.

That Tiny Tim video is perfect by the way. Haha
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:36 am

Smelly can help you move beyond judgements if you let him.

The moment the desire arises to change Smelly and tame him you have already lost.

Smelly swings on the spiral of the Tao, of doing not doing, beyond all judgements.

The second a judgment arises the Devil has you.

There is great power in 93.

Live and let live.

How do you taste the vinegar?

Do you have a grin?


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Reptile on Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:39 am

Oh I'm still here Muppet

I'm always here Muppet!
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:44 am

We are all muppets of the way.

The play is the play.

We are muppets of the great wheel of time.

Enjoy the ride and savour the passage of time.




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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Pkisfake on Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:04 am

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:04 am

It’s just a lovely peaceful ride Dan.

Have you found your perma grin yet?


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