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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:09 pm

First topic message reminder :

[The original topic reminder post http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:15 pm

I can do this forever...because I’m NOT pretending.

I don’t have to run away from my Self.

Thus endeth the lesson muppet.

Go find that grin boy, me thinkz I smell bullshit and it’s all over...

YOU

P U

Bullshit stinks, but the smelly goat smells, an earthy aroma you just can’t get out of your nostrils, there is a difference, but I doubt you’d know it.

But hey, that’s you.



Bahahaha

I’ll tell ya, this is just too much funz.

Being smelly is the Way, again, a fact lost on most of you muppetz, especially your fellow muppet, Idolator Dan.

Bahahaha

Yay!

I just remembered it’s Friday!!!!!

Imma git high high high...

I might nibble on the Sky
I might go talk to the Fly
I might ask Him

WHY
WHY
WHY

He will tell me because you gonna

DIE
DIE
DIE

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:46 pm

I never lost my grin for a second boy.

The biggest pretenders are those who call others pretenders.

Damn, I just called you a pretender.

Shrug.

You know, you can have goals, like leaving OMF, and still be Wu Wei.

You cannot escape wu Wei. Everything is wu wei.

That is why I have a perma grin.

Silence is no better than a blabbering fool, you can’t have one and not the other, they imply each other. All is One.

I will admit, your blabbering is very poetic in its own Smelly Goat way. Refreshing in a world of pretenders in its own weird way, at least it is to me.

You don’t always have to be on the attack though. You can accomplish the same thing with a kinder tone.....if you feel to do so....I could care less though, do as you feel.



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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:19 am

Bahahaha

Awwww, am I a meanie Sad

Toughen up buttercup.

You been Ginsburned...



Better luck next time PizzaBoy.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:24 am

Shrug.

If you don’t love Smelly for his Goat among Goats ways there is something wrong with you....you still don’t get IT.

Zen and the Tao is fucking hilarious.

What would I have done without it?

Everything is a hilarious Koan...life itself...

Paradoxes, nonsense, and Wu Wei rule the world, not signs or laws.

Seriously, this guy.....

Bwahahahaha

I fucking love the Smelly Part of me.

They wanted to call a meeting to honor Mr Kern...Haha

What the hell is that?

Comedians.

As if there were free will or separateness or something.

The play is the play.

Nice try muppets.

Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

Okay, it’s seriously time for some for some peace and quiet.

I hope to never post here again.

Seriously!


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:46 am



I put a spell on OMF

Now I will never post here again.

Good thing “I” is an illusion.

Now I can post and post all I want till the fat lady sings.

Hahahaha
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:52 am

Oh shit, I can’t stop laughing...

Life is hilarious!

I’m gonna wake my poor wife up shaking the bed.

I’m cracking up!

I must be getting a second hand high from Smelly’s weed.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:56 am

Ahhhhhhhh
OMF is Magical

Here’s the thing...Smell might sound harsh at times but he never really takes himself too serious. He always has a grin because he knows the secret about IT. You have to pay close attention to the little Wink winks he puts in.

He’s really not that dumbass guy on the boat pushing everybody around. Remember Atomic Brando in the garden? That’s the real Smelly folks.

Remember google face matcher thing matched his face with the Poet Cold Mountain?

Smelly is a grinning fool if I ever did see one.

He is me.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:12 am

Anyway....

Goodnight...

https://youtu.be/egf-q8RibSc
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:28 am

Good mythical morning!

Every morning I wake up and feel like the pumpkin king discovering Christmas town for the first time.

Especially when I look at my beautiful children the Tao has brought into my life.

This is a delightful nightmare.

You might call it a dream.

The best possible dream.




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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:18 am

Still cracking up I see.

No one can really see us.

We made a bubble.

It’s gonna be ok kid.

Relax.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:18 am

Smelly cracked Kern and I don't care, my master has gone away.

I'm always relaxed Dude. 

I left my head on cold mountain, don't you know?
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:07 am

We’re having a fight over whether Ron is going to be on Paul Price’s radio show.  

I don’t think so.  It wouldn’t be following the established protocol.

There will be no Disclosure without coherence.  

Am I Mr Coherence or not?  Let’s get this straight.  

I think Kashmir will be on my side.



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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:15 am

Back to topic...

You are dead wrong Dan, so lost and confused to make one laugh and laugh.

Welcome to the return of the age of magickal thinking.

It is very threatening to some, downright apocalyptic.

Some will kill to avoid this age.

Too late.

You are trapped, bahahaha.

This is an age of effectiveness, what works locally?

The Tarot is true and real and very effective.

Religious thinking is fading away.

Science is floundering on the quantum edge.

If someone says something consider what they are trying to do.

As Above, So Below requires magical thinking to understand.

This new Age requires magical thinking.

Trump is a great sign of the new Age, a magician, dumb moron that he is. He’s more a chaos magician.

Incoherent wisdom says if the world has risen out of chaos, the rational only has limited information, but a random uncertain statement is full of useful information, Wei Wu Wei embodies this.

Uncertainty will increase.

The more chaotic you allow yourself to become, the more you can see.

You will have to become mad.

MAD
MAD
MAD

The mad goat sees all.

Are you blind?

I see what power I have.

Hmmm, what do I want?!

Riches?

Power?

Women?

Knowledge?

No, I love my pack and I’d die or kill for them.

I’m a pack member now.

Daimons I am finding are great aids with Magick.

I have tripped on something so much fun.

Society is being split into believers and non-believers.

The unbeliever is cast out as evil and must not be heard.

My great fortune was to become a Heretic.

The frightened go for the right.

The prosperous go left.

The sheep and the goats separating before your eyes.

The trick is to stay multi-dimensional, uncertain.

The unbeliever can be very open and unpredictable.

If you are agile, and don’t pick sides, you can go anywhere.

It’s a mistake to predict what will happen based on previous culture.

Idolator Dan is dead wrong here about the post-Truth Magickal world.

I am not saying there is no Truth.

Chaos is not all that is happening here.

We are just gooooing crazy, Truth is set aside for a time to allow Magick and weirdness to be experienced, that it works matters, not how so much, what it leads to matters.

So stuff your predictions up your ass, we are in chaos now, but there is a way to walk in it.

Idolator Dan has no idea what to do or how to live in this new age, he’s so confused and spinning around it’s more funny than sad.

Stay frosty.

Learn to think and live magickly.

I have told you the truth in fact recommending madness.

Smelly the Mad Goat


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:23 am

Wrong again, smelly.......

You will never set truth aside.  You will never set coherence aside.  

You are the destroyer and nihilist.  Get thee behind me, goat.

The world is one, and the truth is one.  Do you question that, goat boy?  

Magic is only for the purpose of enhancing coherence.  

You, smelly, attempt to enhance your ego.  Good luck with that.  



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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:32 am

Dan has totally ignored Owen Barfield, I wouldn’t listen to a single thing Idolator Dan says.

Only an Idolator speaks in such binary terms.

He can’t underatabd what I’m saying.

He’s stuck.

He isn’t agile.

The Idolator hasn’t let the trinity of 3 pierce him with uncertainty.

He is being stupid.

He knows nothing about this age and is leading people astray, but then, that’s his purpose.


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:33 am

I judge that both of you are making judgements.
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Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:36 am

He forgets it’s a spectrum as evil always has a good seed and good an evil seed.

He is no Gardner.

He won’t let the Trickster child close.

Good, bad, doesn’t matter really.


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Foot Mann on Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:37 am

The gates will close behind the Discloser. As he finishes one last drink, he will walk through the gates and wave goodby to the Small World. He is dishonest, disloyal, and disruptive, but he was chosen as the guardian so he remains the Discloser.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:38 am

Ohhh, now the Foot.

The Foot ain’t smelly enough yet.

Nope, I’m judging that muppet too.

The third principle then, who is the Trickster?

Consciousness of course, get some Idolator Dan.

Consciousness is hella funny, I can’t stop laughing, belly laughs!

It’s so wicked!

I love it!

Naughty at times, funny string puller Consciousness.

I am always trying to make it laugh.

I have heard it laugh at me Wink

Say HI to Anubis for me from the mad goat.  

*waves*


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Foot Mann on Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:42 am

The Princess has requested knowledge of the species of Goat associated with Smelly. The finest fiber comes from the Goats of Kashmir, and they do not smell bad. They were the first to receive her when she arrived on the Mountain and they were her escorts as she passed down to the Valley of People below. Together with the Snow Leopard, they stand guard of the Hive and all that exists between this Small World and Others.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:45 am

I never said I smell bad, I smell earthy is all.

For some that is an aroma of the Divine.

For others, a putrid stench.

It depends entirely on the quality of your soul what you smell here.

I am of the Black Goats, but I have a white stripe down my back and soul.

We force any near us to choose.

What will it be, laughing or crying?

I dried my tears in laughter.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:16 pm

Joe may need some assistance, Aaron.  Keep him in your thoughts, please.  I am attempting to secure additional information.  
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Post by smelly on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:19 pm

When the brain witnesses magick and magickal beings and your brain is mostly rational, the brain destroys the Magick.

How often have you seen something as if in twilight and then you clear your head and it dissolves away?

I think this happens to us all the time.

I have experienced this before where I saw beings and I melted them away through my fear.

But no longer, I was normalized or initiated into the magickal world.

I trained myself into this state of mind through hella hard work.

Now I can’t stop laughing, I really cracked up Wink

I am not afraid of them.

If a god shows up, I bow my knee in respect.

Only now do I begin to see. I didn’t know I would start really seeing insane things.

Funny.

I assume this at the heart of the UFO phonomena.

I guess that’s why I came to OMF.

Part of us always sees things, the Trickster conscious part.

I guess the vision is a gift, a reward, not a curse, only a curse to binary thinkers, to muppets.


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:19 pm

Speaking of Snow Leapords...

I just finished having a tea party with a Mongolian Snow Leapord (Zoe playing as her favorite animal).

The tea is delicious to the taste. Yum.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:21 pm

dan wrote:Joe may need some assistance, Aaron.  Keep him in your thoughts, please.  I am attempting to secure additional information.  
Oh Joe...

I'll do what I can, let me know.

Of course he can only help himself in the end, but I'll do what I can...

I guess the majic pizza portal was not enough...

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