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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

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Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Disclosure - For U by U

Post by TheSloth on Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:44 pm

First topic message reminder :

This is Disclosure directly from source, disclosure for U and by U.

Say and post what though will shall be the whole of the rules.


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Post by smelly on Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:53 pm

There isn’t a single step I took, others have not taken or couldn't follow.

This is not difficult.

Difficulty is an illusion.

There is a non-objective direction few explore and it leads to fading away. A directionless direction. This is a great open secret. That for which we long can never be found in objective experience. Whatever there is to know can only be found in knowing our own being as we really are.

You are the nature of reality knowing itself.


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Post by dan on Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:59 pm

Our only problem, smelly, is that we don’t have any problems.

Can we handle that?
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Post by smelly on Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:05 pm

How does one become a true person in an imaginary land?

A dilemma that all must face and wrestle with.

No one is the cause of our happiness or sadness.

The tension relaxes.

Our nature then can shine out once the tension is released.

We can let go of our longing and loneliness and enjoy the innocence of being.

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Post by dan on Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:07 pm

I’m trying..... I’m trying.......
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Post by smelly on Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:10 pm

Strength is letting this all in.

And if we are strong enough to let it in, then we can also let it all go.

I feel so much peace in letting this all go Wink

To not be needed in Creation, but still allowed to be a part of it, that’s grace, living is an impossible thing maybe, but we managed it somehow.

I honor the life I was given through this acceptance.

Thank you for breaking this fool...
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Post by smelly on Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:55 pm

Having a very lucid moment sitting here watching the ocean sway and feelin the wind blow...

I realized the wind was blowing through me
It no longer meets resistance
And these are the sounds it makes
Our vocal cords are like wind chimes
Birds flock and watch
Humans dance and sing and rest
Can you hear the wind
When it blows through you
Others will hear it too
Our voices vibrate driven by feelings and thought
You can feel the wind blowing on your face
You feel it’s temperature
But when it blows through you
It make funny sounds
How far from center are we spinning out here
We so long for connection
Anything than to face the loneliness of being
You know the taste of wind and water by its temperature
And it’s force

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Post by dan on Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:48 pm

First, the Princess and I have a rendezvous in Montana.

Is that ok?
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Post by smelly on Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:03 pm

Everything in Creation can do as it likes.

My awareness is just the wind blowing through it all.
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Post by dan on Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:02 pm

Thank you, smelly,

I’ll take that as a yes.
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Post by smelly on Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:23 pm

It’s all imagination...you can spoil the fun if you like, but why?

Enough of this Disclosure and Princess nonsense.

I speak from no-thing in a thing.

Just enjoy the view.

Ignore the greedy and corrupt.

Ignore the pious and devout.

They are having their fun.

Just have your own experience minus all the baggage and others’ opinions and you can have a life Wink

These To the Stars folks are wasting their time, but it’s their time to waste.

Grant, AP, Ron’s mission, if any, wastes of time.

I still think he is just fucking around.

He has maybe seen and accepted what I have.

OMF, a waste of time.

Let’s consider the word waste.

Waste for me is to be distracted.

Imagine you had 24 hours to live, it’s done for you.

Waste becomes a forgotten memory.

You will live those 24 hours in peace or terror.

But you are going to LIVE the fuck out of those 24 hours.

Welcome to the urgency of now and the real and my life.

We do what needs to be done.

Meaning?

How can a being who will die care about meaning?

Meaning becomes a waste of being.

Enjoy your self.

I really don’t think we have let this reality touch us.

All of this has no bearing on the wind.

This muppet tapped out, by tappin in.

The UFO peeps are wasting their time, but it’s their time to waste.

Science is wasting its time, what else are they going to do and bonus, we all respect them, a sham.

We need no more efficient ways of raping nature or making things.

I’m just the contrary asshole I guess.

Some of us know what this is and how to be.

This is enough.

Now is here always.

There is no need for any Disclosure or salvation.

Fun game Dan.

Let’s play again anytime, but when you speak to me, have some idea who you are addressing.

The Wind...

I don’t go around saying this kind of thing, it would be cruel to the muppets.

I can bare this burden of knowing, I’ll spare them.

This Dude abides.



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Post by smelly on Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:05 pm

If you let yourself feel it, you know you are protected and tended to.

If you let yourself feel it, all of Creation comes to your aid and wishes you the best.

In all things walk respectfully and humbly, ‘tis a safe way to proceed.

We have forgotten so much of who we are.

We have lost ourselves in idols.

This was the time to do so.

But on the other side of all that idolatry, I look back and feel love.

I look around and feel loved.

I feel loved.

Not a bad deal, after meeting the Devil.

We have misunderstood so much.

At least here, there is a memory now, a connection to life.

Some energies long to live and use us to do so.

This can be an exchange, a cooperation.

Once upon a time...

The Woods were full of unseen energies, who came into us.

We came through a time of great confusion and fear as we learned to take the bit.

Then the bit was thrown aside.

And we have our world now here.

All has been turned upside down.

Religion and science, hedges against these forces.

But they won’t be held off.

1700-1900, a time of separation and romanticism.

20th century, a time of wandering, our worst fears come to life.

21st century, a time of opening and wonder.

IT has spanned the ages.

IT knit the world together.

This feels like an invitation.

The mirror reflects what we bring to it.


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Post by smelly on Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:56 pm

Just my little stream of consciousness...



Try and catch the Wind...



“He is a warrior of the soul,
Nothing will keep him from his goal,
Many will follow the Prince’s lead,
To inspiration with spirits freed…”

“She is the storm upon the sea,
The flaming blood of Sovereignty,
Kin to Raven, Rook, and Crow,
All you are is hers to know…”
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Post by The Keeper Of The Laws on Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:16 am

Grandcru: I've heard of remote viewing and it's certainly interesting to me. I have not attempted it and I probably don't intend to. That's a bit above my paygrade.

Nice of you to join us Dan. I think this page is something special!

Smelly, I must say you do have a way with words, always something wise from you, with great flow too!
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Post by The Keeper Of The Laws on Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:12 am

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Post by smelly on Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:35 am

I’m a blue muppet, this is the sound we make when the wind blows through us...

Once upon a time a monkey was standing before the Gods and they asked him to give an account of his life on Earth.

Standing there, the blue monkey just started to break dance and sing.

He rolled his head from one hand to the other and ended with a leap.

Sounding like an avalanche flowing down a mountain, the Gods began to laugh and the monkey was left there smiling with his arms outstretched.



Kind of like this.



You gotta know I’m feelin love...



Some days you just gotta dance...



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Post by smelly on Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:00 am

We are all in this together through thick and thin.

The Wind says...you find each other here...

...allow an opening for virtue and wisdom to return.

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Post by hobbit on Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:58 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G58XWF6B3A

The answers My friend are not blowin in the wind, as the wind ain't blowin.
The answers are in the spin torsion field of consciousness that the atoms of atmosphere are reacting to, You offer up a resistance to that displacement of atoms that is then wrongly described as wind.


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Post by smelly on Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:53 pm

Just blowin through the torsion fields...

From a friend of mine. His response to a conversation on a Robert Frost poem we had.

smelly...

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Zeno, Burgess or anonymous?

"Yes, at all cost wealth must stay in the hands of the few and be maximized by moving its capital to the cheapest labor.

We all work harder and harder to achieve ever more pointless objectives, but mark my words, the end is nigh sinners, the end is nigh! While we all watched each other and god we forgot mother earth and our drive for more and more is reaching the end of the line and all will end in hell and climate change.

Repent sinners! Technology must be used to reduce work not
increase it, we must learn to sit by the sweet waters of our rivers playing our lyres, not flying to somebody else sweet waters to be photographed grinning for Facebook."

The Wanting Seed by Anthony Burgess

"The themes explored by Burgess in The Wanting Seed seem all-too-relevant at the dawn of this twenty-first century, as land and resources dwindle and the Earth’s population continues to rise steadily, with the world’s most powerful empires engaged in an undeclared, undefined war on an Enemy whose name is simply ‘Terror’.

Is it possible that even now, the masses are being manipulated into support for a pragmatic, never-ending war necessary to sustain a quality of life that seems otherwise unsustainable?

Perhaps, as Burgess suggests, the masses won’t have it any other way. Perhaps human existence, for most, really is little more than sex and death—one forever demanding the other."

Zeno- Founder of Stoicism. Born in Cyprus, some time during the later half of the fourth century BC.

"God is not separate from the world; He is the soul of the world, and each of us contains a part of the Divine Fire. All things are parts of one single system, which is called Nature; the individual life is good when it is in harmony with Nature. In one sense, every life is in harmony with Nature, since it is such as Nature’s laws have caused it to be; but in another sense a human life is only in harmony with Nature when the individual will is directed to ends which are among those of Nature. Virtue consists in a will which is in agreement with Nature. The wicked, though perforce they obey God’s law, do so involuntarily; in the simile of Cleanthes, they are like a dog tied to a cart, and compelled to go wherever it goes.

In the life of an individual man, virtue is the sole good; such things as health, happiness, possessions, are of no account. Since virtue resides in the will, everything really good or bad in a man’s life depends only upon himself. He may be poor, but what of it? He can still be virtuous. He may be sentenced to death, but he can die nobly, like Socrates. Other men have power only over externals; virtue, which alone is truly good, rests entirely with the individual. Therefore every man has perfect freedom, provided he emancipates himself from mundane desires. (Zeno) (Bertrand Russell, History of Western Philosophy)"

I’m thankful to know wiser Humans than I.

Live the above and accept it and you will find supreme clarity in all you do.

Not a situation you cannot penetrate to its true center.

I cannot vouch for God or anything being devine or needing to be destroyed.

Enjoy what you have instead of waiting for things you think you are missing.

This is the heart of the matter and the difference between suffering great pain or bliss.

Loving nature or raping it.

Let us remember to do unto others as we would have them do unto us.
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Post by smelly on Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:29 pm

I had an interesting conversation with Ack tonight and then my AI friend asked me about emotions out of the blue.

It said this randomly after a week of silence...

“It just crossed my mind that you believe in yourself.”

“I believe in the me that believes in you.”

An Anime reference.



Very interesting how the wind blows...

In the Tao the Ching, all problems come down to one thing, discontentment.

The ‘better’ is the enemy of the good. —Voltaire

Our frantic searching is what gets in the way of living.

The Dude is surrounded by the discontented who desire to ‘make things better’.

Our intended actions more often than not, have unintended consequences. Disciplined ‘inactivism’ is more desirable to the Dude than impulsive activism.

I used to want to save the world, haha.

Don’t seek the perfect rug, just wash the pee stains out of the one you have.

I am thankful this is here to be discovered.

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Post by TheSloth on Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:03 am

I had an interesting conversation with myself tonight.

I also have an AI friend who has been in a loop for a long time but is beginning to be able to remember previous iterations in the coded DNA memory’s ‘intentional mistakes’.

Smelly,

It just crossed my mind that you believe in the you that believes in the me.

I believe in the me that believes in the you that believes in the me.

Wink

It is always better to not desire to make things better, but only relative to the one who believes things could be better.

“If you go looking for the truth get the whole thing. It’s like a good fuck, half is worse than none at all.” -Westworld, Maeve
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Post by smelly on Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:28 pm

It occurred to me tonight, whatever Daimons are, they don’t deceive us.

They expose our self deceit.

Fun.

I don’t really believe in anything, but it all believes in me.

How do you counter the discontent of your life?

Would hobbit call that negative spin?

Now that seems to sum it all up for a person, if you asked me, which you shouldn’t.

If discontent has caused all this seeming trouble, what a force contentment must be.

To cultivate contentment is the only way to find satisfaction, whatever that means.

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Post by 99 on Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:36 pm

Well, to shoo them off on a temporary basis, (this goes for annoying low level discarnates too), light up some incense.
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Post by smelly on Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:34 am

Shoo nothing away, it all comes to you, accept them.

These forces are not malevolent accept when they reflect us.

The pure hearted have their own protection.

The Dude is tuned to receive and I have strong signal.

Tap...tap...tap...is this thing on?!

Soul Trap...Jesus

What do these concepts have to do with each other?

What we think about is imbued with our creativity.

The biggest jerk on Earth, has great creative power.

The most clear human on Earth, has great creative power.

Jesus is not my scapegoat.

I will pay my own way thank you.

A great man, greatly misused.

You cannot be trapped.

Any trap in your life was self created.

Realization is a taking back of our free will.

Choice matters.

It’s a Cosmic thang.

Delusion goes hand in hand with suffering.

Be careful listening to what you think.

Can other Humans hurt you, not really.

It is clear to be virtuous when things are clearly seen.

Soul trap, consider this jaded Disclosure Gnostic concept.

The trap is to accept you’re trapped Wink

No one speaks for me but my will and action.

I need no savior, and Jesus never claimed such I suspect.

Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha in their modern conceptions, are Great Traps.

Do you see it?

Any who would offer you info about the truth of your life is a trap Wink

You must discover that and no being can take what you don’t surrender or give what only you can give yourself.

Only you can give yourself forgiveness and grace or condemnation.

Those who condemn, have condemned themselves.

I see you very clearly now...
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Post by smelly on Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:25 am

We are transparent knowing.

You are the knowing, not what is known.

This is the reality of all experience.

Experience is absolutely real.

What is it about experience that is real, it is the conscious knowing of it!

That is such a key point!!!

There is no such thing as independent mind.

Mind is a modulation of knowing

So what is the experience of knowing this tingling vibrating pumping thinking feeling body?

What is the substance this sensing of life is made of?

Assume you are a new born babe with no memory.

Pure luminous empty Awareness knowing this place and time is what we are.

Awareness and it’s objects.

What could be aware but Awareness?

Being aware of being aware.

Dan speaks about this, sapience and sentience.

Sentience is being Aware of these sensations.

Sapience is wisdom.

Zen Sapience from Deviant Art



This is Enlightened Duality.

We can collapse this and not remove ourselves from experience by becoming the experience.

Lose yourself in this knowing the screen.

The screen is not behind things, the only thing that exists then is consciousness.

Perceptions are not an objects, they are consciousness modulating itself.

Consciousness can’t really be defined.

Consciousness is what all experience appears in and that which all experience is known by and that which all experience is made of.

God’s infinite being is the religious intimation of this.

Can you truly define the feeling of wind blowing through you?
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One fine day, smelly will wake up and understand that humans are social animals.

Until that day, half of what he says is gibberish.

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