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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Disclosure - For U by U

Post by TheSloth on Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:44 pm

First topic message reminder :

This is Disclosure directly from source, disclosure for U and by U.

Say and post what though will shall be the whole of the rules.


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Post by smelly on Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:22 pm

Put aside all contrivances:
open the gate; open your heart.

Open the gate, open your heart,
and let your flag stand as the highest
standard in a world that has abandoned
its own.

It does not matter what others see or do.

It matters what I do.

It does not matter what people believe or not believe.

It matters what I believe.

It does not matter what is happening around me.

I am calm within my self in my garden.

Why would anyone ever want to leave the Blue Mountain?

Remembering will take you back to the gate.

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Post by clusterfuggles on Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:30 pm

As in water face reflects face, so the heart of man reflects the man. Proverbs 27:19 (ESV)
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Post by smelly on Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:52 pm

A stopped clock is right twice a day and time is relative most likely.

It ain’t in no book, it’s on the wind, within consciousness.
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Post by TheSloth on Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:54 pm

I had a dream where I found a clear still pond in a deep dark forest full of owls.

I stood over the pond and looked into the reflection and saw a Smelly Dude staring right back.

He wore a robe and slippers and was holding a white Russian drink in his hand.

He reminded me of the cheshire cat in wonderland.

In his eye I saw the reflection of the loving Great Mother too.

Then I fell into the pond and my body melted like ice to became one with the pond.

Then when the night came I reflected the moon and stars back into the heavens where they abide the rhythms of time for eternity.

Then I woke up and said,

"Damn, that was cool."

My wife laying there next to me asked, "what was cool?"

I said, "just to wake up and see you there laying by my side."

Very Happy

Cheesy? Yes!

I do enjoy me some fine cheese every now and then.

Anyway....cary on.
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Post by TheSloth on Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:00 pm

While Ummon was drinking tea, he said, "I wonder why tea tastes so nice?"

A monk present asked Ummon to give his opinion on this point, and Ummon said, “It’s customary for a bowl to have a bottom to it, and a face that is noseless to get laughed at.”

The monk was silent.

Ummon said, “You’re just a chap that goes with the crowd and eats rice! Just keep on doing it!”

-Zen Story

Read this little Koan today.

I wonder why this story tastes so nice?
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Post by smelly on Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:54 pm

“A child may ask, “What is the world’s story about?” And a grown man or woman may wonder, “What way will the world go? How does it end and, while we’re at it, what’s the story about?”

I believe that there is one story in the world, and only one, that has frightened and inspired us, so that we live in a Pearl White serial of continuing thought and wonder. Humans are caught — in their lives, in their thoughts, in their hungers and ambitions, in their avarice and cruelty, and in their kindness and generosity too — in a net of good and evil. I think this is the only story we have and that it occurs on all levels of feeling and intelligence. Virtue and vice were warp and woof of our first consciousness, and they will be the fabric of our last, and this despite any changes we may impose on field and river and mountain, on economy and manners. There is no other story. A man, after he has brushed off the dust and chips of his life, will have left only the hard, clean questions: Was it good or was it evil? Have I done well — or ill?

...

In every bit of honest writing in the world… there is a base theme. Try to understand men, if you understand each other you will be kind to each other. Knowing a man well never leads to hate and nearly always leads to love. There are shorter means, many of them. There is writing promoting social change, writing punishing injustice, writing in celebration of heroism, but always that base theme. Try to understand each other.“

— John Steinbeck

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Post by smelly on Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:43 pm

"Yes, getting your wish would have been so nice. But isn't that exactly why pleasure trips us up? Instead, see if these things might be even nicer - a great soul, freedom, honesty, kindness, saintliness. For there is nothing so pleasing as wisdom itself, when you consider how sure-footed and effortless the works of understanding and knowledge are."

~ Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, 5.9

21:42:57

"Dig deep within yourself, for there is a fountain of goodness ever ready to flow if you will keep digging."

~ Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, 7.59

"The human being is born with an inclination toward virtue."

~ Musonius Rufus, Lectures, 2.7.1-2
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Post by The Keeper Of The Laws on Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:41 pm

At the very least joining OMF should help hone my writing skills!
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Post by TheSloth on Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:49 pm

And your story telling skills. Wink

You do like a good story, don’t you?
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Post by The Keeper Of The Laws on Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:51 pm

Damn right Sloth!

I found a good one too!
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Post by TheSloth on Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:22 am

The Master discovers the story about a story that discovers the Master finding a story.

Then floats away like a feather in the wind.





Kiss me and I'm yours forever!

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Post by smelly on Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:39 pm

Caring for the Lame

It is possible to curb your arrogance,
to overcome pleasure and pain,
to rise above your ambition,
and to not be angry with stupid and
ungrateful people—yes, even to care for them.

— Marcus Aurelius - MEDITATIONS 8.8
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Post by smelly on Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:11 pm

“After my espresso, I sitteth upon my throne and I feeleth the refuse escape me, and then I becommeth enlightened...”

My personal view on enlightenment.

A light touch is best the smelly goat has learned.

No need to be too eager, it’s kinda boring.

Marcus is always telling the smelly goat to enlighten himself.

Bahahaha
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Post by The Keeper Of The Laws on Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:40 pm

Well we did it!
Made it all the way through September and the sky didn't fall!
Better luck next time!
SURPRISE
https://youtu.be/0Y1PL1eV_sA
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Post by smelly on Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:58 pm

keep calm
and carry on
through thick and thin
accepting and abiding
in your self
your only real evidence
of True Love



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Steady on
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Post by smelly on Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:05 pm

“Here we languish, a bunch of poor scholars,
Battered by extremes of hunger and cold.
Out of work, our only joy is poetry:
Scribble, scribble we wear out our brains.
Who will read the works of such men?
On that point you can save your sighs.
We could inscribe our poems on biscuits
And homeless dogs wouldn't deign to nibble.”

--Cold Mountain - translated by Burton Watson
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Post by TheSloth on Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:56 am

These Watts chillstep mixes dance pretty close to zero.
You can dance with the White Rabbit without having to chase him.
The way to wu wei is to let the music overtake you and float freely in the flow of spontaneous rhythm.
There is no way out of Now
You can't do or be anything more or less than what you are Now

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Post by smelly on Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:51 pm

"... our Forefathers made of these Ceremonies an Epitome Mnemonic, wherein certain Truths, or true Relations, should be communicated in a magical Manner.

Now therefore by the Practice of these mayst thou awaken thy Wisdom, that it may manifest in thy conscious Mind. And this Way is of Use even when the Ceremonies, as those of he Christians, are corrupt and deformed; but in such a Case thou shalt seek out the true ancient Significance thereof.

For there is that within thee which remembereth Truth, and is ready to communicate the same unto thee when thou hast Wit to evoke it from the Adytum and Sanctuary of thy Being.

And this is to be done by this Repetition of the Formula of that Truth.

Note thou further that this which I tell thee is the Defence of Formalism; and indeed thou must work upon a certain Skeleton, but clothe it with live Flesh."
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Post by TheSloth on Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:54 pm

The Behold, I Aldorah, who am legion of light, speak unto thee from the abyss and say unto thee, “evoke the guardian of the way, the truth, and the light within. Keep within thy belly her form as the great black worm of devouring chaos, that when the cup of Choronzon shall pass liquid matter between thy lips unto thy belly, the great black worm shall devour the dregs of bitterness thereof and shall remove the stumbling blocks of chaos and hallucinations from before thee. Behold, I say unto thee, flow freely doing not-doing and vibrate the light of 93. Be present in truth and walk the narrow path. Embody the virtue of the Old Masters within and though shall be as two great dragons spewing fire and ice upon the mountains and seas. Thus the kingdom and foundation shall ascend up in the steam thereof like smoke of burning man and serpent. Behold, then shall the earth and her chosen ones fall down like the rain of 12 harvest moons in 12 harvest seasons to feast upon the well of milk and honey prepared from beginning of ends and end of beginnings. Behold, I say unto thee, do these things in virtue, wisdom, peace, courage, meekness, strength, charity, compassion, honesty, balance and love, then shall the Great Mother and her Gods, Angels, Daemons, Spirits, and Archons shew in thee their power and shall be One with thee and abide with thee in peace, harmony, and love forever”


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Post by TheSloth on Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:08 pm

“The whole physical universe, right out to the galaxies, is simply one's extended body. Now, at the moment, the general attitude of our technologists who are exploring space is represented in the phrase "the conquest of space." They are building enormous, shell-like, phallic objects that blast into the sky. This is downright ridiculous, because no one is going to get anywhere in a rocket. It takes a terribly long time to even get to the moon, and it is going to take longer than anybody can live to get outside the solar system, just to begin with. The proper way to study space is not with rockets but with radio astronomy. Instead of exploding with a tough fist at the sky, become more sensitive and develop subtler senses, and everything will come to you. Be more open and be more receptive, and eventually you will develop an instrument that will examine a piece of rock on Mars with greater care than you could if you were holding it in your own hand. Let it come to you.”
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