UFOs, Extraterrestrial Contact, Conspiracy, Exopolitics, Geopolitics, Paranormal, Crypto-zoology, Ancient History, Cutting-Edge Science & Special Guests.

Latest topics

» Montage grokking
Today at 3:32 pm by mion

» Mandella Effect
Today at 2:08 pm by 99

» Disclosure - For U by U
Today at 1:53 pm by smelly

» Immaterialism 2
Today at 10:46 am by 99

» Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2
Yesterday at 9:59 am by desertdweller

» Sunspot Observatory Shut Down Updates
Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:02 pm by dan

» Immaterialism
Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:58 am by Earthling

» CC's Wacky World of Disclosure
Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:00 pm by Course Catalog

» Philosophical Idealism: Mind is Fundamental
Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:48 am by dan

Headline Relay: Linda Moulton Howe Interview of Naval Officer - Antarctica

Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:13 pm by Cyrellys

Linda Moulton Howe Interview of Naval Officer - Antarctica  



MMR Twitter News

September 2018

SunMonTueWedThuFriSat
      1
2345678
9101112131415
16171819202122
23242526272829
30      

Calendar Calendar


Immaterialism 2

Share
avatar
dan
Special Guest
Special Guest

Posts : 3985
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Baltimore

Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:03 pm

First topic message reminder :

[The original topic reminder post http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism  
should be substituted here... ]
............



(cont......)


Last edited by dan on Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:12 am; edited 8 times in total
avatar
dan
Special Guest
Special Guest

Posts : 3985
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Baltimore

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:12 am

Domestic espionage..... I don’t think that’s in foot’s portfolio.

smelly
Member of Distinction
Member of Distinction

Posts : 1594
Join date : 2018-01-18

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by smelly on Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:24 am

It’s early CC, I’ll do better next time.

Nope Dan, you don’t just brush this off.

Maybe you were told to stand down.

Coward Wink

Ships flying around the Sun, cool.

The Sun going dormant, cool.

Ice Age, cool, we survived one drawing pretty pictures on the wall with basic tech.

They release ufo stuff, which was coordinated, but then do things like this.

There must be warring factions on the inside.

I don’t care mind you, but it’s fun to speculate about the appearances.

cwallatruth
Full Member
Full Member

Posts : 78
Join date : 2018-08-09

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by cwallatruth on Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:35 am



smelly
Member of Distinction
Member of Distinction

Posts : 1594
Join date : 2018-01-18

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by smelly on Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:53 am

We are being trolled.

Did Sunspot catch unknown transits in front of the Sun?

Far out.

Beam me up, for the love of all, beam me up???!!!!
avatar
ParanoidFactoid
Senior Member
Senior Member

Posts : 272
Join date : 2016-07-04

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by ParanoidFactoid on Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:55 am

It's one of Ruggero Santilli's invisible antimatter entities.

smelly
Member of Distinction
Member of Distinction

Posts : 1594
Join date : 2018-01-18

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by smelly on Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:25 am

I think they decided time to show the silly monkey muppets how silly their lives are.

Did you see that, I said silly twice chuckleheads Wink

Real wishes always come true, because they already are.

Who is wishing and what could a wish make true that isn’t?

So real wishing must be a kind of remembering, discovering.



There is a very simple way to gain the proper perspective of your life on Earth.

See it from the Sun’s perspective, all things are equal to the sun.

We all rotate around IT’s gravity.

Amazing we can be so blind and ignorant with it blazing up there.

Let there be Light!

cw, that’s all IT is.
avatar
dan
Special Guest
Special Guest

Posts : 3985
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Baltimore

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:00 am

smelly,

We may not be standing down, but bellying up..... to the quilting table.........

According to the Princess.........

Think of this as an essay contest for Disclosure...... is the matrix/quilt of our beliefs about disclosure...... the hopes and fears of all the years are to be borne by our Disclosure Quilt.  

In no small part, it is the quilt of open minds forum......

Individually, we gather our thoughts into panels.... to be stitched together...... somehow.  

This is little like the ‘whistle blower’ ‘quilt’ that Doug has put together, some of which panels have been and are to be displayed by the Smithsonian.  

At my high school, each senior carved a wood panel to be inlaid in the wall of the auditorium....... we ran out of room.  

And this is not really just about Disclosure.  At least, in equal measure, this is about Creation.  

I believe that it was by some such process that our world was created, but that might be a plot spoiler.  

Wouldn’t the universe run out of room for all our ideas...?

This why many suppose that Creation and the Creator must, necessarily, be infinite.  Very conveniently, the modern cosmologists have supplied us with just such a model.  

The Princess is supplying us with a slightly different model, or so it would seem.  What has the hive got to do with the size of the universe ?  

It has to do with connecting those dots.... those panels...... it’s all in the patchwork...... the devil is in the details.....

God has an infinite canvas on which to paint Creation.  How fitting.  

Or, perhaps we have the ‘stone soup’ model of Creation.  

Do we have a choice......?

Our feathered and scaly friends, how do they get to play this game?  

Are they invited to the Quilting table?  

The Princess conducts drone workshops........ how appropriate for a queen bee...... around the world, and on the internet.  I’ve attended many of them.  Each is a marvel, in its own right.  

DYI drones.  DYI Creation......?  That seems to be the model we are being presented with.  

We project our microcosms onto the world..... easy, peasy..... everyone just step right up......


4:10.........

No wonder that we have so many worlds to experiment with.  Eventually, we might get one that is presentable.  

Then we have smelly........ real wishing must be a kind of remembering..... or discovery......

Who died and left smelly in charge? Maybe it’s time for me to pass......



(cont.......)


Last edited by dan on Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:19 pm; edited 16 times in total

cwallatruth
Full Member
Full Member

Posts : 78
Join date : 2018-08-09

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by cwallatruth on Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:11 am

smelly wrote:I think they decided time to show the silly monkey muppets how silly their lives are.

Did you see that, I said silly twice chuckleheads Wink

Real wishes always come true, because they already are.

Who is wishing and what could a wish make true that isn’t?

So real wishing must be a kind of remembering, discovering.



There is a very simple way to gain the proper perspective of your life on Earth.

See it from the Sun’s perspective, all things are equal to the sun.

We all rotate around IT’s gravity.

Amazing we can be so blind and ignorant with it blazing up there.

Let there be Light!

cw, that’s all IT is.

But does the Sun have the perspective that it's rotating around the center of the Milky Way? It's all relative.
As Bigelow said... "don't underestimate those guys up there".
I can't imagine that they are not most definitely in control.
avatar
99
Gold Member
Gold Member

Posts : 906
Join date : 2012-06-16

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by 99 on Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:24 pm

Course Catalog wrote:Sometimes I wish every poster here except Dan had a word count limit.

And every poster except Mion was banned from linking to YouTube.

No offense. 8-)

On Dan's request, other than Dan, Smelly (includes some other VIP's here too e.g. Ron, John, Doug, Gary, Cy) is the only one who can post images and You Tube video's in Dan's threads. 

As for everyone else, they can have a link to a YouTube video or image here but that's it. 

However, this rule does not apply to any other threads in the other subforums in this forum where anyone can post as many YouTube video's and images to their hearts content directly into their post.

As for the length of your posts, there is no limit on the number of words allowed in each post but keep in mind that most people have short attention spans so it's to your advantage to not post long essays for this reason. My suggestion would be to post your long essays somewhere else in this forum and if you want participants in any of Dan's threads to read it, provide a link to that essay in your posts here instead (Dan, Smelly, Cy and the other VIP's here are exempted from that suggestion)


Last edited by 99 on Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:48 pm; edited 1 time in total

smelly
Member of Distinction
Member of Distinction

Posts : 1594
Join date : 2018-01-18

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by smelly on Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:44 pm

Understood 99, I try to keep my random stuff in Hello thread unless I feel strongly to post it here.

I appreciate Dan humoring me, I won’t abuse the privilege.

Sloth, slow down maybe, 1-2 posts per thought.

Another random thought on the topic follows...

No, I have to hold my world line.

No one or thing is in control.

There are stories within stories.

If some more powerful force pushed into our world, it will be war.

That’s inevitable.

In a way, this is war.

War for hearts, minds follow, once your ass is freed, so they say.
avatar
TheSloth
Full Member
Full Member

Posts : 42
Join date : 2018-09-12

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by TheSloth on Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:02 pm

Sloth mode activated.

I'm just watching now.

My apologies for hogging the stage.

Everyone eventually learns to love being alone with the alone, sloths are slow to digest.

Maybe everyone here is a VIP, but sometimes we forget it.

Cary on.



smelly
Member of Distinction
Member of Distinction

Posts : 1594
Join date : 2018-01-18

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by smelly on Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:08 pm

I don’t think any thing is more or less important.
avatar
dan
Special Guest
Special Guest

Posts : 3985
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Baltimore

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:13 pm

Thank you, 99,

I am rather too inclined towards laissez-faire, this being the best possible world, and all that.

I’m not much of a task master, or disciplinarian.

A little consideration does go a long way, however.......

That’s all it takes. I love to see enthusiasm, also..... with a bit of moderation, please.

avatar
99
Gold Member
Gold Member

Posts : 906
Join date : 2012-06-16

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by 99 on Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:16 pm

Thanks Dan! I like it that way too.... makes sense and I think most will abide by your suggestion on that. MODERATION is the key word here.


Last edited by 99 on Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:17 pm; edited 1 time in total
avatar
TheSloth
Full Member
Full Member

Posts : 42
Join date : 2018-09-12

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by TheSloth on Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:16 pm

When everything is important, nothing is important, yes.

Another paradox.

Maybe when you are happy and content and whole then you can be important to others for their sakes, but no more or no less important than anything else still.
avatar
dan
Special Guest
Special Guest

Posts : 3985
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Baltimore

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:34 pm

Very good, Sloth/ackbar,

There is pain in the best possible world.  We are also here to share our pain, please don’t forget.  

It’s a much greater challenge to share pain, in a constructive way, than to just share happiness.

Certainly, we can share hope, but we also must share our fears.  

We are hardly out of the shadows.  Our biggest shadow may loom.... just about now.  

How foolish was I to suggest to the Princess that we might have no problems?  Our individual instincts for survival are now metamorphosing into global concerns, as the chrysalis transmutes to the butterfly.  

There is confusion, and our every confusion will be exploited to someone’s hilt.  

If any of us can remove a microgram of confusion, on any given day, it is a day to be remembered. It is a day that will be remembered.

That we might share our truths...... could there be a greater hope?

That our truths have a synergy of synthesis...... can there be any less hope? Should we aim lower? Can we aim higher?

What else could we be here for?


(cont......)
avatar
TheSloth
Full Member
Full Member

Posts : 42
Join date : 2018-09-12

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by TheSloth on Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:05 pm

Thanks Dan,

Smelly said something yesterday.

He said,

"What is there to do, what needs to be done.

Aspirations will keep you alive longer.

What do you aspire to and why?

Are you maximizing your peace and tranquility?"

I've been thinking about that today.

The Princess also taught some about peace and tranquility, and I think above all else that is what we are here aspiring for.

I like the word aspire because as soon as you begin to strain for peace, peace is already gone.

Ultimate peace and tranquility I think is that still empty quietness deep within, but if we had nothing to contrast that nothingness with, we wouldn't really be able to enjoy it.

So we also aspire to life and experiences

We are the aspiring to peace through the aspiring to life and death equal and balanced with nature

I could tell myself that in this moment I am not maximizing peace because I am here blogging and shouldn't need to blog if I am content and happy with who I am and I should just be with myself and my family and stop sharing my thoughts.

However, I could also just be at peace knowing that there is a part of me that enjoys thinking and talking about The Way, or disclosure, or IT, or whatever you want to call it, even if IT tells me I am enough alone and don't need to be here participating in the blog.

So I like how Smelly puts it that you just have to aspire towards peace because ultimately that is what we are and will always be, the aspiration for peace.

We breathe automatically so we know we are aspiring to living even if we have fully realized our own nothingness.

Just go with your flow and be happy with who you are in this moment now, what you think are your flaws and your strengths.

Flaws and strengths are only concepts of thought, you are this moment now, how can you be anything other than what you are now?

Breathe that in and have peace in accepting the whole of U in this moment.

As Atomic Brando taught us, just relax into it.

youtube.com/watch?v=2WzSm34lSqQ


Last edited by TheSloth on Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:19 pm; edited 1 time in total
avatar
dan
Special Guest
Special Guest

Posts : 3985
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Baltimore

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:18 pm

Of course, smelly cautions us to be careful what we aspire to.

..... and how we aspire to it.  

Careless aspirations may be our biggest problem. But we are hardly more than aspiration machines.  

I don’t think that smelly aspires to eliminate aspirations.  

smelly has the aspiration to end all aspirations?  I’m doubtful.  

But smelly understands our pot of gold.......  a true wish is a remembering...... is a discovery about ourselves.  This, and love, is what we bring back to the Source.  We must, because the Source is the synthesis of all our (true) aspirations.  Our truest aspiration is to love and be loved.  Can we buy true love, for instance?  Need we ask?  


6:40..........

And what does Sunspot tell us about true love.....?  

Everyone loves a mystery..... don’t we know?  

It might have been a scripted mystery........ but, heck, I watch tv, too.

Ron and Aliyah might be scripted....... but all the world’s a stage.  

And are we not seven billion characters in search of an author, even if we have to invent one?  But, fear not, we already did that....... in Eternity.  All, ye..... all, ye, in free....

I mean, what’s Eternity good for, anyway.....?

Are the portals scripted, too?  

That’s kinda what I’m trying to say.  If they didn’t already exist, we might have to invent them.  I’ll take that one there, on the left.... the green one.  


smelly says that everything is important.......

He may simply be saying that God is in the details.  

I would definitely keep that in mind, Aaron.  

It’s all microcosms within microcosms.......

We aspire to the Microcosm...... ask any Creator...... oops.... well, you know what I mean.  

I think we both learned this from the Princess..... among a few others, maybe.



(cont......)


Last edited by dan on Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:19 pm; edited 7 times in total
avatar
TheSloth
Full Member
Full Member

Posts : 42
Join date : 2018-09-12

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by TheSloth on Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:21 pm

dan wrote:
I don’t think that smelly aspires to eliminate aspirations.  

Smile

That's a good one Dan.

Nice Koan.
avatar
TheSloth
Full Member
Full Member

Posts : 42
Join date : 2018-09-12

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by TheSloth on Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:20 pm

I have a close friend who told me today about a very paranormal experience he had involving a Mother Mary statue and candles. I mentioned this blog and the Princess but also made sure to say he really already has everything he needs.

He lives in Canada.

Not sure what it means or what it might lead to but he has had several mystical experience over the past few years and is looking for some guidance and direction.

He may or may not join in the conversation here.

smelly
Member of Distinction
Member of Distinction

Posts : 1594
Join date : 2018-01-18

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by smelly on Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:57 pm

Aspirations replace or transmute desires.

Desires are just primitive aspirations.

Good you two.

Good flow.

Good on you and evil Wink

That we can be here and build and deconstruct ourselves is a grace.

That we can know evil and good and choose what’s best all around is a grace.

We can’t ignore our thoughts or desire or lives and connections.

Dan helped me learn not to break from history, but learn what the history meant to me.

It had to be personal for me.

That doesn’t mean we become special, I feel it means, we can learn to take it all in and make the best of it, another grace.

A question, where is all this grace coming from?

I anthropomorphize, which is a fine tool.

I feel cared for by this world.

I have great love for the Sun and Moon, as close as parents.

I feel protected.

I feel loved.

I feel grace in other words, but not for some thing, but for the chance to see it all and be in it.

This is what abiding means.

Not knowing who to thank for your breath, but feeling it is not some material accident, not knowing who to thank Wink

But I am thankful, for all of it and that’s an aroma of abiding.

Caring for others is a natural aroma of abiding, as you learned to love your self, you extend that grace to others.

People say I am sometimes preachy being like this.

I am zealous and enthusiastic about living, ‘tis true, an optimist. If my choice is to worry or make the best of it, I’ll make the best of it.

I am sharing my experiences to give others courage to abide in what is, not what could be, and why I share them.

And I speak of my battles with fear.

It is just the aroma of a flower.

I don’t come here to get or take anything, but I have received many things through my OMF connection, a Rainbow Connection, a portal.

I have very much enjoyed my time here and speaking with Dan and others.

I enjoyed the haters and do. This was all crazy thing to do and share perhaps over these last 3 years, but then I feel to do so, so I can’t compromise my will, that’s what I learned, a grace also to have a drive and will.

Accept it all and rest in it.

We will be dead one day, no time for regrets or take backs, leave it all on the field I say.

Dan has great depth, confused most of the time, but that’s why we met Smile

He has moment of lucidity, as I do.

We help each other by accepting one another and by being willing to look in the mirror.

It’s not always pretty or it is all beautiful.

It’s all beautiful.

I don’t feel to disconnect from life or hide, oh no, show me what you got.

I feel there are no problems, just fertilizer to sink our roots deeper and deeper into.

We can pierce any problem with focus and first principles.

The Way is through the gate, not around it, or under it, through it.

Life is pain and profane, beautiful in ugliness and joy that can grow from acceptance.

https://jamesclear.com/first-principles

This could never be boring, ever, are you kidding me?!

The ego gets bored with anything that doesn’t build it up or give it pleasure.

Are you bored?

smelly
Member of Distinction
Member of Distinction

Posts : 1594
Join date : 2018-01-18

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by smelly on Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:14 pm

All that to say...live like you mean it.

When others give up, don’t
You never fail
So how can you ever give up
When others won’t fight for it
You fight for it
When others won’t give their best
You give all you have
When others are clouded
You are always clear



An aspiration is beyond your self. On the other hand, desire means wanting something for me. You said, for example, "my family will thrive." That is my family. Why only my family?

That is desire mind. But, "May all families thrive" is an aspiration. Not only for human families: tree families, dog families, cat families . . . any kind of family. That has no "I, my, me."

If one says, "This enlightenment business sounds good; I want enlightenment," that is desire mind. This mind doesn't even understand enlightenment, so why does it want it? But, if one says, "I don't understand my true self; what am I?", then this question takes away desire mind. So, if you cultivate desire, then desire will grow.

If you cultivate great question, then desire disappears.

How does all this relate Disclosure?

I have no fucking clue.

The Sun can read your mind.

The eye in the Sky was looking at me this morning and it read my mind.

It totally shined light right through me.

Don’t say words you will regret, or let fire rush to your head.

Are you bored?

hobbit
Senior Member
Senior Member

Posts : 424
Join date : 2017-08-04

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by hobbit on Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:08 am

TheSloth wrote:I have a close friend who told me today about a very paranormal experience he had involving a Mother Mary statue and candles. I mentioned this blog and the Princess but also made sure to say he really already has everything he needs.

He lives in Canada.

Not sure what it means or what it might lead to but he has had several mystical experience over the past few years and is looking for some guidance and direction.

He may or may not join in the conversation here.

I have been trying to best explain about locations.
Locations of spiral implosion and outrush locations of consciousness.

At such locations humans have placed idols.

If You visit Romanesque churches they have circular ends where multiple such idols are kept in apertures.
They light candles in front of them and kneel and pray.

This is where stones in megalithic circles would have been sited.

It is not the idol that matters, but the non physical outrush ( female ) flow of consciousness .

Omphalos stones decorated in spiral ( Fibonacci) carvings were placed at such locations and humans experienced the interactions ( tripping across dimensions)
"Communicator of the gods"



https://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-other-artifacts/sacred-omphalos-stone-navel-world-and-communicator-gods-002655

Hobbit
avatar
GrandCru
Senior Member
Senior Member

Posts : 121
Join date : 2018-02-09
Location : Pennsyltucky

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by GrandCru on Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:22 am

hobbit wrote:

I have been trying to best explain about locations.
Locations of spiral implosion and outrush locations of consciousness.

At such locations humans have placed idols.


Hobbit, I love your explanations and logic. This is a long shot, but would you have any recommendations for sites in the greater Pittsburgh area (western Pennsylvania, eastern ohio, west virginia)?

cwallatruth
Full Member
Full Member

Posts : 78
Join date : 2018-08-09

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by cwallatruth on Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:54 am

GrandCru wrote:
hobbit wrote:

I have been trying to best explain about locations.
Locations of spiral implosion and outrush locations of consciousness.

At such locations humans have placed idols.


Hobbit, I love your explanations and logic. This is a long shot, but would you have any recommendations for sites in the greater Pittsburgh area (western Pennsylvania, eastern ohio, west virginia)?

I’ll answer for smelly..... wherever you stand is the site you are looking for.

Sponsored content

Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by Sponsored content


    Current date/time is Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:30 pm