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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by Cuan Scott Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:52 am

    First topic message reminder :

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    Get well soon, Hudson. Thinking of you beautiful boy and visualising you well. Stay positive Sign.
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    Post by 99 Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:48 pm

    Thanks for the feedback on that Dan. Smile Will bookmark that one to refer to it when needed.
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    Post by Z Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:18 am

    I think most of us agree...
    ....if you look at the scorecard ... humanity is in deeeep goat shit ....(although some goats dont mind that).... i think Joe IS about Personhood Dan!!!! Thats the delightful surprise.... yes he's fascinated by the mysteries & puzzles God laid out for us all to find & explore...but he cares about persons MORE than profits ( which a revolutionary discovery will undoubtedly garner lots of regardless)...

    People will project what THEY want onto Joe... but the reality is Joe will be Joe kicking ass in quiet, un congratulations like a member of Delta Force....

    Im not sure when the next act opens, but the intermission is over...
    Big stuff IS coming...the final act of second play of the trilogy is almost over...a new paradigm & "the plot twists" are always MOST interesting & DRAMATIC in the final act!

    & the future is NOT fixed yet, we are on the fulcrum & could tilt dramatically either way...Dan, Joe, Jack, a certain colorful Dr., a Princess and others emplore us to POSITIVE actions... we choose whether to be audience or actors in the play...goats prefer the audience role( its safer & easier & more numerous)....but this play needs good actors to end well.

    Love to all!
    AP

    PS- my understanding about the Gov. funding Ufo research is thats just the first round & does NOT include the Black world obviously.... after all 500$ mill is not a lot for something with consequences like this


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    Post by GSB/SSR Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:44 am

    Dan: "No, I do not subscribe to free will. "

    You can choose a ready guide
    In some celestial voice
    If you choose not to decide
    You still have made a choice
    You can choose from phantom fears
    And kindness that can kill
    I will choose a path that's clear
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    Post by GSB/SSR Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:56 am

    Today's science provides quite a lean picture of time as a mere geometric evolution parameter. I argue that time is much richer. In particular, I argue that besides the geometric time, there is creative time, when objective chance events happen. The existence of the latter follows straight from the existence of free-will. Following the french philosopher Lequyer, I argue that free-will is a prerequisite for the possibility to have rational argumentations, hence can't be denied. Consequently, science can't deny the existence of creative time and thus that time really passes.

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1602.01497.pdf

    Free-will comes first in the logical
    order, hence all its consequences are necessary. In particular
    one can’t argue rationally against free-will and
    its natural consequence, namely that time really passes.

    We also saw that this is not in contradiction with any
    scientific fact. Actually, quite the opposite, it is in accordance
    with the natural assumption that no finite region
    of space can contain more than a finite amount of information.
    The widely held faith in scientific determinism
    is nothing but excessive scientism.

    This can be summarized with the simple chain of
    implications:
    Free-Will ⇒ Non-Determinism ⇒ Time Really Passes


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    Post by Z Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:59 am

    GBS... my friend...
    I see your Rush...Freewill
    ...and raise you ....with another Rush !

    https://youtu.be/QY2iKzm62AM

    But that hand is Ron & others to play...

    Theres are TONS of REAL SOLID UFO evidence...
    From the videos & files in Pentagon C Ring, to stuff from H.A.F.B. they'll likely NEVER release because of GREAT ethical issues ... to the TONS of "recovered materials" scattered around above & below ground ...
    The stupidity & stove piping has given Russia & China a "lead"...

    Maybe the answer to the Fermi paradox is what were about to go through NOW!

    I pray for openness, oneness & transparency....

    I pray.....
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    Post by GSB/SSR Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:12 am

    ... continued ...

    Nicolas Gisin
    Group of Applied Physics, University of Geneva, 1211 Geneva 4, Switzerland

    So, am I a dualist? Possibly, though it depends what
    is meant by that. For sure I am not a materialist. Note
    that today’s physics already includes systems that are not
    material in the sense that they have no mass, like electromagnetic
    radiation, light and photons. What about physicalism?
    If this means that everything can be described
    and understand by today’s physics, then physicalism is
    trivially wrong, as today’s theories describe at best 5% of
    the content of the universe. More interestingly, if physicalism
    means that everything can be understood using
    the tools of physics, then I adhere to this view, though
    the fact that free-will comes first implies that physics can
    make endless progress, but without ever reaching a final
    point. We will understand much more about time and
    about free-will, though we’ll never get a full rational description
    and understanding of free-will. Just imagine
    this debate a century ago. How naive anyone claiming at
    that time that physics provides a fairly complete description
    of nature would appear today. Similarly, for anyone
    making today similar claims.
    Let me make a last comment, a bit off-track. Free-will
    is often analyzed in a context involving human responsibility,
    “How could we be responsible for our actions if
    we don’t enjoy free-will?”. There is another side to this
    aspect of the free-will question: “How could we prevent
    humans from destroying humanity if we claim we are
    nothing more than sophisticated robots?”, and “How
    could one argue that human life has some superior value
    if we pretend we are nothing but sophisticated robots?”


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    Post by dan Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:46 am

    Thank you, Gary and AP,

    My argument against free will rests upon the illusory nature of space and time, and upon the notion of teleology....... the force is with us, or, more accurately, we are with the force...... we go with that flow, as smelly might say.  

    Does this mean that I am not conscious of making decisions..... that I do not agonize over decisions?  I do, every day.  That is as natural as breathing.  

    I am a fatalist when it comes to love...... love will get us in the end. We can jump, but we cannot defy the ‘gravity’ of the Telos.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:17 am

    Oh the agony

    Of words and thoughts
    That divide and bind
    The truth is always true
    There is nothing to do
    No more is needed
    Than what is here now
    No Gods to pray to
    No where to go
    No way to be
    Nothing to say
    Nothing to see
    Nothing to think
    We are always free

    Oh the bliss of unconditional surrender
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    Post by jofo Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:11 pm

    AP wrote:I think most of us agree...
    ....if you look at the scorecard ... humanity is in deeeep goat shit ....(although some goats dont mind that).... i think Joe IS about Personhood Dan!!!! Thats the delightful surprise.... yes he's fascinated by the mysteries & puzzles God laid out for us all to find & explore...but he cares about persons MORE than profits ( which a revolutionary discovery will undoubtedly garner lots of regardless)...

    People will project what THEY want onto Joe... but the reality is Joe will be Joe kicking ass in quiet, un congratulations like a member of Delta Force....

    Im not sure when the next act opens, but the intermission is over...
    Big stuff IS coming...the final act of second play of the trilogy is almost over...a new paradigm & "the plot twists" are always MOST interesting & DRAMATIC in the final act!

    & the future is NOT fixed yet, we are on the fulcrum & could tilt dramatically either way...Dan, Joe, Jack, a certain colorful Dr., a Princess and others emplore us to POSITIVE actions... we choose whether to be audience or actors in the play...goats prefer the audience role( its safer & easier & more numerous)....but this play needs good actors to end well.

    Love to all!
    AP

    PS- my understanding about the Gov. funding Ufo research is thats just the first round & does NOT include the Black world obviously.... after all 500$ mill is not a lot for something with consequences like this

    what a show indeed, if only it weren't that
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    Post by Z Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:42 pm

    I got some info that there was another big UFO incident at MAFB ( MALMSTROM) thats going UNreported.... apparently there was even a major black out of power January 24 of this year, who wants to call the base information officer and ask if they had a power outage on January 24 930am???


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    Post by jofo Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:14 pm

    AP wrote:I got some info that there was another big UFO incident at MAFB ( MALMSTROM) thats going UNreported.... apparently there was even a major black out of power January 4 of this year, who wants to call the base information officer and ask if they had a power outage on January 4 930am???

    and the show must go on...
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:18 pm

    Nothing can be caught in the web of thought.

    All those fish will slip through your net.

    It’s full of holes and the bigger you make it, the more holes.

    When you have realized you are the Master of your own life and turned from all teachings and thought itself, the world will be reborn and all will have a new bright being.

    Seeking to know creates the best amount of back pressure to shoot you back into the sky a star.

    But no knowing holds the answer.

    The world sings your story if you are open minded and open hearted.

    You will babble and create and wonder as a child.

    Nothing is beyond you.

    You see you feared your own depth.

    All around you was always singing of what is real by just being.

    Rejoice if you have come that far, no farther need you seek with words, now you sing of the real.
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    Post by 99 Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:01 pm

    How beautiful... ) Thanks Smiley
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:31 pm

    99 wrote:How beautiful... ) Thanks Smiley

    The Eternal Smile actually...

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    Post by 99 Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:57 am

    Nice to know, thanks Smiley.

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    Post by jofo Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:12 pm

    smelly wrote:Nothing can be caught in the web of thought.

    All those fish will slip through your net.

    It’s full of holes and the bigger you make it, the more holes.

    When you have realized you are the Master of your own life and turned from all teachings and thought itself, the world will be reborn and all will have a new bright being.

    Seeking to know creates the best amount of back pressure to shoot you back into the sky a star.

    But no knowing holds the answer.

    The world sings your story if you are open minded and open hearted.

    You will babble and create and wonder as a child.

    Nothing is beyond you.

    You see you feared your own depth.

    All around you was always singing of what is real by just being.

    Rejoice if you have come that far, no farther need you seek with words, now you sing of the real.

    there is something to all this nothingness

    thank you sg
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:17 am

    Polish Polish Polish
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    the image seen within merge
    into one and fly away
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    Post by Sign Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:49 pm

    i take it this is now the UFO .. thread.. 

    there is more bloody threads on this site now than in my bloody socks. 
    Mad


    who.. blocked the other bugger.. 

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    Post by 99 Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:32 pm

    For the time being, he has cut back on his postings here at his own volition.
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    Post by Sign Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:07 am

    99

    So who blocked the the other thread then and why ???

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:13 am

    Some of us love the big deep open
    water with no port or direction set
    meandering where the winds and
    currents wish
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    Post by Sign Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:23 am



    Smelly wrote:Some of us love the big deep open
    water

    Bugger that is't got things that eat you.. Very Happy


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:57 am

    We have been eaten many times
    The Deep will devour you
    You can learn a lot from inside a fish
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    Post by 99 Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:11 am

    Speaking of fish...

    https://www.techtimes.com/articles/232470/20180719/man-dies-from-flesh-eating-bacteria-after-eating-oyster-at-florida-restaurant.htm

    But what's even more scary about that incident is that out of courtesy to the restaurant where that poor man ordered those oysters and died, the local health dept down there will not reveal the name of the restaurant.

    Could be that incidents like that are bad for tourism? It's like from that movie Jaws where the city council and mayor of Amity held off telling the public that there was a dangerous killer shark stalking in the waters off their beach as it's bad for business. Same thing in my book.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:39 am

    Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 11

    Thirty spokes share the wheel's hub;
    It is the center hole that makes it useful.
    Shape clay into a vessel;
    It is the space within that makes it useful.
    Cut doors and windows for a room;
    It is the holes which make it useful.
    Therefore profit comes from what is there;
    Usefulness from what is not there.

    “I do think that nothingness is here now, that it is in part the space between things—and that particles may be coming in and out of existence.”

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