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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Persons within the substance of love.

Post by dan on Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:25 am

First topic message reminder :

(‘first topic message reminder.......’)

Once again, I attempt to bring the conversation back to Personalism......

Disclosure is simply going to underscore the infinite worth and potential of every sapient creature, ie, person.  Anything other than that is simply false.
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(Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread......

http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )



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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by Nunia.binus on Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:05 pm

The WoM MoAPS just might be coming to a theater near you in September (see link for trailer):

http://www.hunttheskinwalker.com/about

...complete w/ participation from Bigelow, Knapp, etc.
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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by dan on Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:52 pm

The upshot of my conversation with AP........  

We agreed that there would not be much point in our having a dialogue on the blog, so long as he was not prepared to seriously reconsider his strong belief in scientific cosmology.  I refer to this cosmology as the big world hypothesis, as opposed to the SWH, which I consider essential to the BPWH.  

So, we are back to business as usual.......
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Now what.......?

I would like to know if anyone on the blog is willing to give the SWH their serious consideration.  

Don’t all speak up at once........


(cont.......).
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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by smelly on Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:30 pm

Have fun Dan.
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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by painterdoug on Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:39 pm

dan / is it the six degrees of separation idea? that we are really only experiencing a small world individually , each one of us?
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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by GSB/SSR on Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:14 pm

To test the SWH, I suggest we get Bigelow's people to help put Dan up on the moon, to contemplate the existence of a much smaller and not quite the best possible (nearest neighbor) world to the earthly BPW!

While there he might encounter the alleged moonstruck aliens, and test the UTH vs ETH at the same time!


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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by mion on Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:18 pm

GSB/SSR wrote:I suggest we get Bigelow's people to help put Dan up on the moon
I'd contribute $10 to get Dan to the moon.  Who else?
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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by 99 on Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:47 pm

I appreciate the SWH because it focuses in on the meaning and purpose of the UFO phenomenon. That they are not just anomalous flying objects and lights in the sky... they are much more than that and there are many people out there who have had encounters with them who have experienced personal transformations where their old view of reality no longer is working anymore. The SWH gives a coherent alternative view of reality which allows us to rethink some very fundamental questions on the purpose of our very existence.
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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by dan on Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:35 pm

It seems that 99 is the only one on the forum who is willing to take the small world hypothesis seriously.  

I’m not real sure what the rest of you good folks are doing here.

I guess you are hoping that Ron will still be dropping tidbits on me, every now and then.  

The rest of the time, I guess that 99 and I will be discussing the small world hypothesis. Yes, 99?
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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by 99 on Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:40 pm

I would be honored Dan to continue having the opportunity to participate in discussions here on your BPWH/SWH.  Every time I delve into it, I experience new revelations. It's an intellectual exercise that's opened up a whole new worldview that's, to say the least, very mind-expanding!
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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by dan on Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:07 pm

99,

Great....... I’m looking forward to the discussion........
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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by 99 on Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:22 pm

Me too Dan! Night!
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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by desertdweller on Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:36 am

Dan,

I'm interested. Count the desert dwelling monk in.
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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by dan on Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:48 am

99 and dd,

Amazing, there are actually three of us in the world who give enough credence to immaterialism to spend time on it.

And then it occurs to me that we can start this discussion on a new thread, so that I don’t have play the bouncer on this one.

I think I’ll just call it Immaterialism. I consider the small world hypothesis (SWH) to be a corollary of immaterialism. The SWH will be a secondary topic, at first.....

To be continued on the new thread........ Immaterialism >>>>>



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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by jofo on Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:12 am

i'm in for immaterialism...but not for funding dan's moon ride
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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by painterdoug on Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:34 am

could i get a clear overview of what the small world hypothesis is ?
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Re: Persons within the substance of love.

Post by 99 on Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:19 pm

painterdoug wrote:could i get a clear overview of what the small world hypothesis is  ?      

The SWH is based on the premise that:

Dan wrote: the fact that this world is the center of spiritual gravity for the cosmos (and it) underlies the entire prophetic tradition.

The assumption being, in this case, within the context of a heterodox Christian translation of biblical 'prophetic tradition'.

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