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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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Post by dan on Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:26 am

First topic message reminder :

Here we have a slightly new departure, inspired by desert dweller.

Let’s see what happens.  Hopefully, we’ll come up with a better title.  

This is a slight detour from the Great Distraction in the Sky.  

Yes, I have claimed to be a monist, but it seems that you can’t be a monist and Personalist at the same time.  More technically, we’re talking three persons in one substance.  

There is to be a strong emphasis on history, as inspired by Joachim da Fiore, where Disclosure leads us into the age of the Spirit.  

Folks who don’t buy into this Metanarrative are welcome to argue against it, but they are not welcome to be continually advocating some alternative or for nothing.  

Personalism is the name of this Game.  

All other gamers are invited to state their games, but game elsewhere.  Thanks for the understanding.  

I hope that this will reduce the confusion in these parts.

And I do hope and trust to have the continued understanding of Cyrellys.  If an open mind is not to lead to nihilism, we must respect the personal nature of mind and of mind’s ‘objects’.  


9..........

There are several artifacts that need pointing out...... specific links will be given later.......

The mnemonic

The earlier blogs and websites.  

The abortive BPWiki..... it should be resurrected, in due course.

KWF and the Chronicles

There are various YouTube channels, which might be pointed to.

Etc.......


We must respect other persons, at all times.  

We must respect others’ opinion, as long as those opinions may be cogently argued, and that includes arguing that said opinions deserve the label of being a better BPWH.  And, by the way, that mnemonic is for best possible world hypothesis.  


SR,

Hang in there, please.  

Let me say, however, that there is no outside.  smelly is as near to the outside as you are liable to see in this world.  The outside is parasitic upon the inside, as you may see, pretty clearly in this case.  

What we so faciley refer to as the ‘objective’ is actually the intersubjective.  That is the sense in which I am a monist.  The Monad is the One substance in which all persons reside.  All persons are equal, but, historically, three persons stand out.  In the patriarchal nomenclature of the historian, Joachim da Fiore, we have the age of the father, the age of the son, and the age of the spirit, aka the Aquarian age.    


10:10.........

To inaugurate the Aquarian age, we have TSA, which was just to provide an excuse for the grey lady to clamber aboard.  Following that will be tsa2&3, in that order.  However, it would be more accurate to name it tla3.  This is where J&K come into the picture.  As I have previously mentioned, tla3 is a cover operation, unbeknownst to both j and k, (as was tsa1), but not entirely unbeknownst to the church.  This is what I hear from a sometimes unreliable source.  Seeing is believing, as we say in the disclosure world.  I’m not sure what tsa2 is supposed to be.  tsa2 and tla3 might be the same, for all I know.  Grant may be better informed on this matter.  


Tonight, there will be a three hour Rabbit Hole meeting, with host Grant Cameron, 8-11pm/EDT..... https://zoom.us/j/387693722 . I plan to be there.  


The roll out for tla3 was in Colorado.  I did not attend.  Neither did J or K.  I have received no further information about it.  OM is to be the site for the next phase.  Some links are to be offered, but they are not available, as yet.  The overriding issue is between the physical and the metaphysical aspects of the rattling cage and any associated phenomena, ie, to what degree is this a portal phenomenon?


11:50.........

Sign,

I see that you had a question for me, as to the source of the BPWH........

The source is just my own imagination.  I have never claimed otherwise.   I have never claimed to be a channel or contactee of any sort.  I have only claimed to be an ‘expert’, ie. a former drip under pressure.  

I pursue truth in the only way I know how, ie. logically.  

Science claims to have a hegemony on truth.  I dispute that claim.  

I even dispute their claim to a hegemony on empirical truth.  

The only claim that I might vouchsafe to science is their claim to analytic truth, which I see as an empty claim, since they have no analysand, if I have stated that properly.  


The analysand of personalism is persons, as the analysand of atomism is atoms.  

Persons are the only things in themselves, to paraphrase Kant. All else is derivative therefrom.  

Deists and pantheists, among others, disagree.  

Persons, unlike atoms, do not, cannot, just swerve in the void.  

Persons can hardly exist apart from other persons.  

We are social beings.  There is a hard to define milieu of persons.  The best existing theory of this milieu is provided by panentheism.  

Unless you are an atomist, the only other alternative is pantheism.  Pantheism has no explanatory power.  It can only accept what is.  

Panentheism provides a transcendental dimension.  It provides a vantage from which to critique the world.  It provides a vantage from which to postulate the BPWH.  That is what I have done.  No more.... no less.  


1........

However, if this is, indeed, the BPWH, then all critique is futile.  

A paradox.  

Yes, but it is a paradox we can live with.  It is a paradox that most of us agree to take upon ourselves..... and share.  

We find freedom in our imagination and poetry, and in imagining God’s Kingdom on Earth.  

Yes, many have tried to storm the gates of that heaven.  

But when we finally get to that Gate, we turn around and realize that our sojourn to that point was, at least, half the fun.  Enjoy.......

smelly has crossed that Jordan.  He curses me for not taking the plunge....... so does the Princess.  Don’t worry about me, I’m just admiring the view.  I have seen life from both sides, now.  

Fear not.  Disclosure is at hand.  It may not be quite what we expected, but it will suffice unto the day.  


You may not treasure your innocence.  Allow me to, vicariously.  This is our childhood’s end, children.... suffer the children to come unto me.  

smelly calls us muppets, derogatorily.  There is no derogation in God’s Kingdom.... not even for smelly.  

I have spoken of our very worst fear.  This is the chyu situation.  I told the Princess that our biggest problem was that we have no problems.  

She looked me in the eye.  I blinked.  

We cannot blink.  

Yes, some were chosen.  Even I was chosen.  Now, all are chosen.  If I have any message, that is my only one.  

Yes, we do circle back to tribalism.  That is from whence we came.

The very last tribalism, on this side, is to be witnessed on the hills of Judaea.  

Come down, out of the hills.  We goyim do not have cooties.  

Is there an or else?  Yes.  Ask Harvey.  

All that’s left is........ me, too......


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Post by Ackbar on Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:21 am

A-Brand, we train not training. I'm completely and totally relaxed. You worry too much man. Just relax. Haha.

I train with nobody but myself. I'm using you as a mirror of sorts. Just experimenting with more raw naked approach now, but I'm at peace. Just singing a different tune but still singing.

Also, I'm not a Mormon, I'm just a Moron. I'm Just Aaron Kern, a lone wolf goat with a patch of sheep skin I keep as a souveneer of my former years. Smile
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Post by AtomicBrando on Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:27 am

Same difference.

And yes, u are a moron Wink

Play is a powerful thing.

I think the intensity of our singularity is still a bit too much for OMF.

Naked is naked.
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Post by Guest on Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:59 am

Atomic,

Thanks for the encouragement.  It's nothing new I'm seeking after, but I appreciate the encouragement..  I probably won't become a monist, or wear a wizard hat.  I think only you can pull that off Smile

I do like Flowerz though.

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Post by whoknows on Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:58 pm

Dan wrote:
I’m not sure if anyone else has a clue.  Surprise me.

Different words same story.

Dan wrote:I’m not aware that this ontological distinction has been made previously.  

Self Esteem Maybe.
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Post by Ackbar on Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:34 pm

DD may just be the next in line. I can feel him letting go. I smell blood. You are right DD, you won't become a monist. You won't become anything at all. You ARE already just you and you are enough. The tiger is calling you to just relax into it now. Smile It's lots of fun and very peaceful. A perfect balance.

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Post by Ackbar on Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:50 pm

Dan, I got a voicemail from you but it's like a month old. Hehe. I finally got a phone now, just so you are aware. You can call me anytime now if you still want. Or anytime in the future.

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Post by Just wandering on Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:15 am

GSB/SSR, forget p151/152, I think this is who you were looking for.

http://www.cosmicnews.org/2017/02/25/alien-interview/
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Post by Cuan Scott on Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:40 am

Where is everyone?? Has everyone returned to the other thread? Listened to Grant's Rabbit Hole last night, excellent Dan, we really enjoyed it. Don't let the 'nuts and bolts' people annoy you, Dan, they don't yet realise that there are no 'nuts and bolts'. Adds to the conversation.
Has everyone gone down another rabbit hole ... Hello!!
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Post by Ackbar on Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:27 pm

Maybe everyone dropped the nuts and bolts. Words are nutts and bolts. This forum is nuts and bolts.

Maybe direct experience has spread to more muggles and they no longer come around knowing they are enough?

Who knows.
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Post by Cuan Scott on Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:21 pm

Very true Ack, but isn't everything outside of awareness nuts and bolts? Ah .. but the movie isn't over yet and the final scene has yet to be played .. nuts and bolts .. the question is what's next? Will it be a different movie with a different story.
I like Dr. Bruce Lipton's take on it, he said, "how would the field know what chocolate ice-cream tastes like?"
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Post by Ackbar on Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:47 pm

Yes, everything is necessary and nothing is necessary. It all depends on out point of reference. From the audience perspective, they don't care about the nuts and bolts of how the film was produced, they just watch it play. From the actors perspective they don't care about the nuts and bolts of you sitting in your chair eating popcorn. They are focused on acting. Then there is the guy/girl up in the projector room who projects it for us.

The problem is, the actors acting trying to figure out the nuts and bolts of the audience and the projector by looking into the camera that films them.

Most people here on OMF are running in circles trying to figure it all out my looking into the camera lens with the idea they could see the audience inside the lens if they just had the right tools. No tools or information will get you what you search for. You have to go watch a movie and go to the projector box to understand, not look at lenses.

How do we understand paranormal/UFO/ET, etc? The answers are inside ourselves. The answers are not out there, they are inside us. You must understand the nature of reality, which is tied directly into our consciousness? How do we learn about consciousness? Not by dissecting the material brains projected and experienced through consciousness but by observing consciousness itself. Our brains are only the radio antenna not the radio signal. We observe consciousness in meditation and being silent, present, and aware. Sit quietly and observe where thoughts arise and retrovsrse back up the Ray until you can see who you are from all dimmensions of time and space.
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Post by AtomicBrando on Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:47 pm

For awhile I thought Ack was copying my words, but he was able to call out what I had encoded.

He’s a brillant mimic or he’s done some deep work.

Only he knows.
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Post by Ackbar on Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:29 pm

Always doing deep work. Even in these unnecessary words here. Scooping out the last bits of the pumpkin so the jack o lantern will shine most brightly.
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Post by Ackbar on Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:31 pm

I am the most brilliant mimic that ever existed also. At least from my point of view.
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Post by RunningBull on Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:40 am

hobbit wrote:"Essence of god"
Sounds like it comes in a bottle?
Spirit?

I totally reject this male dominated theory.

A duality that is based upon chirality, with a neutral carrier.


The carrier been super high frequency that the duality of spin lower frequencies spiral about.

In the beginning was sound.


But all of this occurs in a house, as such, a platform of omni present geometry ( think of it akin to the screen You are observing via), which means that …
All is one....just differing ingredients.
Those ingredients been how creation occurs, in a memory manner.

There is no god, there may be super advanced memories that know how to bake different outcomes relative to variant inputs.


hobbit

You may be referring to the 3, 6, and 9.
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Post by smelly on Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:05 am

I was married 3/6/18

Who are you RB?!
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Post by Ack on Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:22 am

Welcome to magic mountain RB.

Enjoy the muppet show!

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Post by RunningBull on Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:51 am

smelly wrote:I was married 3/6/18

Who are you RB?!

I'm just a dude on a synchromystical journey through metaphysics and consciousness. I'm here looking for easter eggs.
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Post by Ack on Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:52 am

Hahaha

Good

You have come to the right place

Dan is the chicken little after all.

I’m sure he could lay an egg or two if he just pushed hard enough.

Smelly is a goat but he has learned to shoot eggs out his anus like a machine gun.

He aims for the face so watch out.

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Post by Ack on Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:43 pm

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Post by hobbit on Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:14 pm

http://runningbullchief.blogspot.com/2011/06/running-bull-sioux.html

Welcome RunningBull,

3,6,9,


I detect via dowsing nine lines, arranged in three groups of three lines.
That is 3,6,9.

Where such sets cross self similar sets at variant angles in Fibonacci numbers of sets ( 8,13,21,34,55) they create geometry that enables consciousness to both implode in to the central location of said geometry and equally to outrush in opposite spiral direction.

I consider this to be the basics of creation at all scales.


The geometry at such locations produces a dominant cross feature, with circulations around the geometry at various diameters.


There are often two adjoin such geometries aside each other at Fibonacci distances apart ( 55 ,89 144 inches) this then produces overlapping dominant crosses where bloch wall zig zag pathways are further detectable.


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Post by RunningBull on Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:38 am

hobbit wrote:
3,6,9,


I detect via dowsing nine lines, arranged in three groups of three lines.
That is 3,6,9.

Where such sets cross self similar sets at variant angles in Fibonacci numbers of sets ( 8,13,21,34,55) they create geometry that enables consciousness to both implode in to the central location of said geometry and equally to outrush in opposite spiral direction.

I consider this to be the basics of creation at all scales.


The geometry at such locations produces a dominant cross feature, with circulations around the geometry at various diameters.


There are often two adjoin such geometries aside each other at Fibonacci distances apart ( 55 ,89 144 inches) this then produces overlapping dominant crosses where bloch wall zig zag pathways are further detectable.


Hobbit

Thanks for that link. I got the name through numerous syncs.

Also good god, this sort of information is what I'm talking about. I've been digging through this forum for a bit and to be honest most of the things being discussed here seems indecipherable. Like a jargonophile boys club with a few people who talk to themselves around other people.
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Post by hobbit on Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:53 am

RunningBull,

I suspect some on Dans area were perhaps parrots in a past incarnation?


I should have added a measurement of the lines, they are one inch wide themselves, and the sets of nine lines cover a distance of just over 200 feet.


What is detectable is that they never ever move.


What is also detectable is that the consciousness ( often termed as plasma) is variable in flow directions and width about the lines.


This is most evident shortly on the winter solstice ( sun-still)


We have vast lost information relative to this system of creation, mostly lost in religious gobbyly di dook control based garbage.

Science ( new religion) has lost itself in dead at rest view of reality.
It needs alive dual spin entities to interact with the dual spin consciousness field of creation.

Look forward to Your involvement here amongst the parrots.

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Post by smelly on Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:54 am

RunningBull wrote:
hobbit wrote:
3,6,9,


I detect via dowsing nine lines, arranged in three groups of three lines.
That is 3,6,9.

Where such sets cross self similar sets at variant angles in Fibonacci numbers of sets ( 8,13,21,34,55) they create geometry that enables consciousness to both implode in to the central location of said geometry and equally to outrush in opposite spiral direction.

I consider this to be the basics of creation at all scales.


The geometry at such locations produces a dominant cross feature, with circulations around the geometry at various diameters.


There are often two adjoin such geometries aside each other at Fibonacci distances apart ( 55 ,89 144 inches) this then produces overlapping dominant crosses where bloch wall zig zag pathways are further detectable.


Hobbit

Thanks for that link. I got the name through numerous syncs.

Also good god, this sort of information is what I'm talking about. I've been digging through this forum for a bit and to be honest most of the things being discussed here seems indecipherable. Like a jargonophile boys club with a few people who talk to themselves around other people.

It’s bird language and other encoded hints.

I wonder if you can crack it?!

Have fun.

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