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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time

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Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time

Post by 99 on Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:12 pm

Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time

Tech Times wrote:Landmark new research that involves analyzing millions of DNA barcodes has debunked much about what we know today about the evolution of species.

In a massive genetic study, senior research associate at the Program for the Human Environment at Rockefeller University Mark Stoeckle and University of Basel geneticist David Thaler discovered that virtually 90 percent of all animals on Earth appeared at right around the same time.

More specifically, they found out that 9 out of 10 animal species on the planet came to being at the same time as humans did some 100,000 to 200,000 years ago...

Born Around The Same Time
In analyzing the COI of 100,000 species, Stoeckle and Thaler arrived at the conclusion that most animals appeared simultaneously. They found that the neutral mutation across species were not as varied as expected. Neutral mutation refers to the slight DNA changes that occur across generations. They can be compared to tree rings because they can tell how old a certain specie or individual is.

As to how that could have happened, it's unclear. A likely possibility is the occurrence of a sudden event that caused large-scale environmental trauma and wiped out majority of the Earth's species.

"Viruses, ice ages, successful new competitors, loss of prey — all these may cause periods when the population of an animal drops sharply," explains Jesse Ausubel, director of the Program for the Human Environment.

Such times give rise to sweeping genetic changes across the planet, causing new species to appear. However, the last time such an occurrence took place was 65 million years ago, when an asteroid hit the Earth and killed off the dinosaurs and half of all other species on the planet.

The study is published in the journal Human Evolution.

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Re: Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time

Post by Sign on Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:02 pm

More specifically, they found out that 9 out of 10 animal species on the planet came to being at the same time as humans did some 100,000 to 200,000 years ago...



Yes because God did not make the furry little creature and us.. Aliens.. Did 



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Re: Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time

Post by Sign on Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:41 am


Yes Dan

Maybe I should have phrased the first remark as

" Do you not think there is evidence that Extra-Terrestrial intervention my have played a Part in the evolution of species. rather than God."




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Re: Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time

Post by dan on Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:27 am

Sign,

This is not my thread, so you may say whatever you like, however you like.  

But, since you asked, I do not recognize the ETH, mainly because I’m not a Newtonian about space and time, ie. Space and time are epiphenomena of Personalism and of our Metanarrative that we call History.  

You are clueless, Sign, as to the BPWH.  There is no such thing as evolution..... only its superficial appearances.  I believe that genetics is primarily epiphenomenal, along with atoms.  

However, science can offer us tidbits of truth, which I’m happy to tout, and this is certainly the case with mitochondrial ‘barcoding’.  

To believe in the ETH, you have to be a social Darwinist of the worst kind..... you have to be a predatory capitalist..... winner takes all, the Devil takes the hindmost.  

This is a purely anti-Christian world view, promoted by pagans of all stripes.  You are clueless, Sign, if are oblivious to this politics of the metaphysical.  


10.........

(my phone is 443-799- seven two oh one.  Call any time.)

The mitochondrial ‘barcoding’, if anything, points to Creationism, but I’m not a Creationist, either, not in the traditional sense.  

With the BPWH, there is no Creation, per se.  The BPW is eternal.  Every moment of time is embedded in Eternity.  Deep space and deep time represent the logical dimension of the Logos.  They are the logical background of our human drama.  They are what shield us from direct contact with the Monad.  

The Hive shields us from the Monad, in a more metaphysical sense.  It is from the Hive that the UTs (ultra-terrestrials) emerge.  That they may represent themselves as alien astronauts, ie. ETs is their prerogative.

Many Mansions are my Father’s House, is a direct reference to the many chambered aspect of the Hive.

Creation, in other words, is a logical bootstrap process, wherein cosmic potentiality manifests as our actuality. The BPWH is the definitive answer to the philosophical question of why is there something, rather than nothing.

(Allow me to continue this post on the Three in One thread. Anyone is welcome to join the discussion there.).


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Re: Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time

Post by Sign on Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:43 am

Dan i don't intentionally try to demean your BPW..



i tried not to Post in your BPw section but 99% of the forum members are there..


99 says i should ring you.. that is up to you..


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P.s I most likely are clueless to your BPWH.. iv'e tried to read it and it boggles my mind.  i even tried again the other night to see where your coming from.. but like you say Clueless. Very Happy


PPs.. i too do not believe in all evolution.    There was some intervention By ET .. God.. its a Difficult subject to understand.

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Re: Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time

Post by GrandCru on Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:47 pm

Sign..Dan seems sensitive, but in case you haven't noticed from our current leader, yanks don't give a damn. Be more like a yank and push your thoughts, regardless of eloquence or perceived intelligence. If anything, you're helping the conversion to tribalism. Plus, Dan has a Velcro wallet. Never worry about how someone with a Velcro wallet views your contributions.

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